COP26 Delay: Climate Activists Hopeful They’ll Have New President in the White House

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Climate activists are hoping the COP26 Climate Conference delay will give them an opportunity to get rid of President Trump before the conference, to improve their odds of securing funding from US taxpayers to give the conference a much needed boost.

‘We must use this time well’: climate experts hopeful after Cop26 delay

Moving summit gives world time to respond to coronavirus and may allow a new US leader to join talks

Fiona Harvey Environment correspondent
Thu 2 Apr 2020 23.01 AEDT

Moving the 26th conference of the parties to an as yet unspecified new date next year gives countries time to work out their responses to the Covid-19 emergency, which experts hope will include commitments on shifting to a low-carbon economy rather than propping up the fossil fuel industry.

“There is an opportunity in the recovery from the Covid-19 crisis to create a new approach to [economic] growth that is a sustainable and resilient economy in closer harmony with the natural world,” said Nicholas Stern, one of the world’s leading climate economists. “That will be the challenge and opportunity of Cop26 next year. We must use this time well.”

Whether or not there is a change of administration, the delay has an advantage for countries negotiating with the US, said Nathaniel Keohane, a senior vice president at the Environmental Defense Fund in the US.

“Under the original schedule, the Cop was going to be overshadowed by the US elections regardless of the outcome,” explained Keohane. “The shift in schedule will allow countries to react and respond. If a Democrat wins in November, then by the time of the Cop, the US will have re-entered Paris and will be able to send a high-level political delegation, giving an important and positive boost to the talks. And if Trump is re-elected, other countries will have had time to absorb that information by the time of the Cop and know definitively that they have to move on without the US.”

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/apr/02/we-must-use-this-time-well-climate-experts-hopeful-after-cop26-delay-coronavirus

Activists’ only hope of a climate negotiation breakthrough is to get rid of President Trump.

84 thoughts on “COP26 Delay: Climate Activists Hopeful They’ll Have New President in the White House

  1. In August of 2016 Hill-O-Beans led Trump by anywhere from 12 to 15 percent. Right now Sleepy Joe is 1 to 2 percent ahead of Trump, which means he’s probably 8 to 10 points behind.

    • The betting line favors Trump right now. link November is a long time away and things aren’t exactly normal right now. If I had to guess, I would say that coronavirus will drive us in the direction of a more conservative moral universe.

      • Activists’ only hope of a climate negotiation breakthrough is to get rid of President Trump.

        Except most of the activists are not in the US and don’t get to vote. They are ‘foreign agents’ like all the limeys running the Guardian.co.uk .

        I remember when Bush II was up for re-election and they bought a load of US emails and invited readers to write and implore Americans not to re-elect him “because it affects the whole world”.

        Not surprisingly this did not work out quite the way they intended 😉

        Mostly is was : butt out limey, I was not going to vote for him but now I will.

        Now they pretend to be an international news organisation rather than a UK outfit so that they can try to influence US policy.

        • The Graun is beginning to panic. The CCP virus crisis has hit its revenue very severely. The website is now full of desperate pleas for readers to donate cash.

          • Few in the UK will shed tears if the Groan is finished off by Covid19. Finally, a silver lining!

          • Their main supporter the BBC is also under attack as they make hysterical claims for what making non-payment of their TV tax a civil rather than criminal offence will do to their lavish income stream. Will they be forced to buy less copies of the Guardian? and if there is no Guardian, where will they get all their stories? They have even used the virus as an excuse to demand a broadband tax to fund them.

      • In November most likely the biggest issue will be economic recovery after the pandemic. That should help Trump. I certainly hope so.
        Chris

    • Oh Gee…
      Other countries CAN’T do anything without knowing which direction the US will be heading … go figure. I didn’t know the US was So Powerful as to stymie action in other countries.
      Anyone who views it as a problem has the Obligation to alter their own lives accordingly but not the authority to cause others have to do likewise.
      Otherwise they’re just hypocrites.
      You view Fossil Fuel as bad?
      Stop driving an ICE
      Stop using rubber tires
      Disconnect from grid sourced electricity and install rooftop or backyard solar on your own dollar
      Stop using asphalt paved roads
      Dump your Cell Phone
      Get rid of any petrochemical sourced synthetic materials
      Eliminate the personal use of any and all plastics
      Eliminate the use of anything containing Steel (Steel is made using Coal)

      Or…Shut Up about it

      • If the US doesn’t sign on, there won’t be any money to redistribute. We are already leading industrialized nations in cutting emissions. We lead by example. They want us for our $$$$$.

      • THX!
        I’ve been saying it for years:
        What are the 2 most denigrated things in this “woke” world? “Fossil” fuels and white men.
        Look around you anytime, anyplace and identify something that did not require “fossil fuel” to mine, refine, manufacture, transport, install…
        Identify what you are willing to live without.
        Look around you anytime, anyplace and identify something that was not invented by a man and a man of Western European descent.
        Identify what you are willing to live without.
        And that cell phone may have a rechargeable battery but the server farms …
        I recall Google was going GREEN! What happened?

        • “czechlist April 3, 2020 at 5:17 pm

          Identify what you are willing to live without.”

          We have already seen what the craziness of a lack of toilet paper can do, try living without regular food supplies, power, water, water treatment, waste management etc etc etc…

          If we want to see what that is like all you have to do is go see what its like in very poor cities in Africa and the migrant camps in the EU. Ain’t pretty!

    • Uncle Joe has about as much chance of being president as I do and I am an Australian. Fake News polls are to be trusted as much as Inconvenient Al. The end is in sight for the Globalist Warming.

      • Scott Downunder: Right. Watch Fox News and get the REAL truth. None of that fake stuff. Ignore the Covid-19 pandemic. Just another left wing ploy to discredit Trump.

    • I do not believe in predicting election outcomes, but there is no way that Biden is ahead of Trump right now (it can change, just like ANYTHING can change). However… I prefer to not talk about it that much. Let them think they’re ahead, right until the polls close in November. 😉

  2. WOW that is a LOT of assumptions there.

    First that Trump is the ONLY one that thought the Paris Accord was bad–wrong, there are others that don’t believe in handing out blank checks

    Second that a Dem President would be a toy they can play with.

    Rather arrogant if you ask me on both accounts. IT is not 1 person stopping this, just 1 giving voice to it. Doesn’t mean that all the dissenters of their dogma are going to go magically silent and they will have all the world’s money to dictate their agenda are going to go away.

    They want low carbon initiatives….great, you stop breathing first.

    WHY not fight POLLUTION you idiots? CLEAN WATER, CLEAN AIR and CLEAN SOIL to grow food, and improve the health of the biome? You want alternative energy, then pour the money into future technologies, not turn lakes into sludge mining for your expensive bird guillotines and invest in things like budding fusion reactors, molten salt, nuclear..etc. But no, you want to fly on your jet to a conference somewhere in the world, eat your exotic food (that had to be shipped using fossil fuels) in a 3 Michelin Star restaurant and wear your fast fashionable clothing (that is the biggest polluter on the planet) and discuss how we the simple folks need to follow how you live. Well hell, I’d be HAPPY to travel the world in style and eat exotic food in high end restaurants..you can keep the fast fashion though because it sucks.

    Once again we are confronted with the ideology, bigotry, and arrogance of those that have built houses upon the sand and stand with clay feet.

    • there are others that don’t believe in handing out blank checks

      Indeed there are. But they are not in positions of power. They are hounded out where possible.

      Politics wears a fig leaf of [climate] science in order to redistribute global wealth on a socialist basis.

      • I have a vote–that is the ultimate power!

        Voting is the controlling power, too, as Hillary found out!

      • In fact the biggest point of contention between them seemed to be a contest regarding who could hand out the most blank checks.

    • Hear, hear! And it’s about time the entire WORLD told these fools to GO POUND SAND.

      Best way to do that is to starve them of attention. Deplatform their crap, PERMANENTLY.

    • Then you have to ask if the Federal Reserve will be able to print any more money.

      Face it. After COVID, there will be lots of others things to spend money on rather than fund a bunch of Gaia-hypochondriacs.

      • The Feds days are numbered. President Trump and his team will be moving it into the pages of history in the not too distant future.

    • More evidence that climate activists live in a fantasy world that bears no resemblance to ours. Can you imagine the nightmare we would be living if they were in charge?

    • That’s the thing Jenn, they don’t know about the black sludge, or the amount of CO2 created from mining (they always leave out the mining in their so called CO2 audits), manufacture, transport and disposal of wind and solar renewables. I say disposal because there is very little recycling anywhere in the world. Most of this crap is going to landfill.

      They talk about solar lasting 25 to 30 years, it makes their CO2 audits look more plausible, in your dreams! We have fires here in Australia, and severe storms with strong winds and giant hail, the only thing new about that is the solar panels. Where are these damaged panels going? The waste from all processes is far worse than nuclear, it’s our new asbestos. And on top of all that the power is unreliable! As to the 25 to 30 years, our panels are almost exclusively from China, quality control standards are different there, for many years 20% of newly installed rooftop panels were going to landfill because they didn’t work.

      They don’t know how much corruption goes on in country towns, laws broken and ignored to push this technology through. It doesn’t occur to them that they are pitting neighbor against neighbor, or that you have no choice about this technology going in next to your home and it’s likely no one would want to buy it should you want to escape the nightmare. They don’t have a concept of the amount of land this technology takes up and that because there’s a high barbed wire fence around it that nature has been displaced. They have no concept of the landscape that was once gently rolling hills and grazing animals being displaced by thousands of hectares of solar panels or wind turbines.

      They also don’t know that in the case of a fire in a solar farm, fireman have been told not to go near it. “Let it burn” we were told “it’d be too toxic to go anywhere near, a waterbomber would be this safest way to put out a solar fire”. And just how long would it take to organise a response like that, even if there was one in town. So we are literally being forced to live next to or nearby to dangerous infrastructure. Oh, but it’s for the good of the greater community. We had four grassfires within a few kilometers of our property in Jan and Feb, two were within two kilometers of the local solar farm. One was started by a fence welder, one by a careless campfire and two were from motorists flicking lit cigarette buts out of the window of their car. All were contained by the local firemen fairly quickly, this time. We get a lot of grassfires here, a town north of us lost 40,000 hectares in 2017, along with 35 homes and 6,000 cattle. It’s criminal that they think it’s for the ‘greater good’ to put life and property at risk.

      They call themselves environmentalists, yet they are happily trashing the environment. And once this round of technology wears out they’ll need to do it all over again. How is that sustainable? In what way is this technology clean or green? In what way is this technology better that nuclear? It certainly doesn’t last nearly as long, nor is it in any way reliable. Their ignorance is overwhelming.

      When are these things going to be brought to the public’s attention? Why aren’t we pushing this stuff in a parroted fashion like they do? Only scientifically obviously. The public are used to hearing lies over and over, maby we could parrot the facts in the same way so it sinks in.

  3. “economy closer in harmony with the natural world.” Since oil is natural it Shirley is in harmony with the natural world? NO…my bad. They want to return to burning buffalo dung which was more in harmony with the natural world? Gives new meaning to “smoked” flavor in barbecue sauce! Trump by a landslide!

  4. How does one get to be a “climate economist?” And what exactly is that? A weather accountant?

    Nordhaus is an economist, who understands climate policy impacts on world and national macroeconomics and trade flows. And his analyses show climate policy is simply a scam on the ignorance of the masses about to get led to their slaughter like sheep in the name of climate and sustainability gibberish.

    And where does the COP planners go from 2021 when President Trump continues to give them the middle finger and no money to sustain their lavish UN paychecks and planning boondoggles to Tahiti?

    • How does one get to be a “climate economist?”

      Well you write a 2006 report saying renewables are the future and that it is an opportunity to be seized ASAP, since it is the first to corner the market that will reap the gains. A means to get everyone to pay more for less and for UK to regain energy independence, lost since the run down of North Sea oil.

      Until he did that greens were an annoying minority, once they thought they could get an economic edge european leaders all suddenly got the green bug.

      The Stern Report was quite a significant part in this whole mess.

      • And of course he wrote the report backwards by selecting his desired conclusion first and working from there.
        Of course it meant he had had to use a wholly inappropriate discount rate to achieve his end result.

    • Joel, Stern is the Brit economist who, about a dozen years ago first worked out the big cost of ‘carbon’ per ton that had to be paid to put things right. It was before it became well publicized that CO2 plays a large part in the more than doubling of harvests on less acreage and has (by now) increased global “leafing out” by over 20% in 40yrs, expansion and ‘fattening’ of forest cover by a similar amount, increased natural habitat, significantly greened arid areas from the fringes inward and reduced the risk of drought by more parsimonious use of water by plants.

      The benefits of CO2 emitted by burning of fossil fuels is, by any objective measure, many multiples of whatever generous cost figures one can arrive at (can someone name one unequivocal cost of ‘carbon’).

      I’m waiting for the new papers that divine a global warming and elevated CO2 cause for Covid 19. It will appear in batches of dozens.

    • The “sustainability gibberish” might have been effective back in the days when The Population Bomb was current; today, with falling birth rates most places on the globe, not so much. Linear projections of ANYTHING are NEVER valid, because they discount human innovation and invention.

      I think this is being exposed as the scam it is before our very eyes. Having seen what a REAL problem looks like for the first time in 100 years, I suspect nations will want to make their own decisions about important initiatives like stockpiling critical medical, food, and manufacturing resources.

      Something tells me that Tilting at Windmills isn’t going to be on anyone’s fiscal radar again soon–if ever! It would help us get there if people would stop retweeting obvious sock puppets like AOC.

  5. Dream on. While we are in Covid19 hell at this moment we will come through… before the real political campaign kicks in. The opposition has placed itself into a very bad spot. Freaked out that Bernie was taking them straight to UK Labour Party purgatory they turned to Ramses III’s mummy. Only this mummy stumbles and bumbles for all to see every single day. Joe has never been a star player. In the Senate he was mostly famous for his amazing flexibility on issues, willingness to lie openly, and gross behavior with women in front of rolling cameras.

    The COP Kids are right to think that Joe will sign on for anything. He’ll sign whatever they put in front of him. The voters will see that (we’ll point it out) and enough of them will decide they don’t want Creepy Uncle Joe driving.

  6. “COP26 Delay: Climate Activists Hopeful They’ll Have New President in the White House”

    I bet that’s what it says in their climate models.
    Aren’t models great?

  7. Thoughts and prayers to anyone on a ventilator. You could ask them if they have voted or donated in support of climate change to renewables. If yes, you could offer to turn off the ventilator once it gets dark.

    • I would pay good money to see climate activists in ventilators. Someone could then ask them if they still believed in unreliable and intermittent renewable electricity.

  8. Worth a watch-

    “The ARTE documentary „Profiteers of Fear“ from 2009 shows how the mainly privately financed WHO „upgraded“ a mild wave of influenza (the so-called „swine flu“) to a global pandemic so that vaccines worth several billion dollars could be sold to governments around the world. Some of the protagonists of that time are again prominently represented in the current situation”

    and some common sense –

    “Professor John Oxford of Queen Mary University London, one of the world’s leading virologists and influenza specialists, comes to the following conclusion regarding Covid19: „Personally, I would say the best advice is to spend less time watching TV news which is sensational and not very good. Personally, I view this Covid outbreak as akin to a bad winter influenza epidemic. In this case we have had 8000 deaths this last year in the ‘at risk’ groups viz over 65% people with heart disease etc. I do not feel this current Covid will exceed this number. We are suffering from a media epidemic!“

    John Oxford. John Oxford is the UK’s top expert on influenza and Emeritus Professor of Virology at the University of London.

  9. Perhaps Meghan Markle knows something?

    She was adamant that she and the hen pecked one were not going to move to the US while Mr Trump was in the White House.

    She moved and he’s still there.

  10. “and may allow a new US leader to join talks”
    Can the green mass robbery plot be exposed in a more comprehensible way?

    German Exit “GermExit” becomes more of an urgency.

  11. If they are dependent on who is the current elected executive of one country, they don’t have the issue they claim to have. I am absolutely certain that while Trump is busy with the current panic, the 9/11 style star chamber now being implemented by Democrats will be their most serious opportunistic threat yet, given the synchronization with the election.

    • Clearly, it’s American cash that they want to subvert. They’ve been able to convert the Democratic party and the MSM into their useful idiots, but luckily, this ploy is not going unnoticed.

      If in the unlikely event Trump were to loose and as a result we get buried under piles of putrid green pork, there will be a revolution and it will start here.

  12. Anyone expecting funding from the U S had better start thinking about other avenues because that one will be closed.

  13. Why is it progressives see nothing but opportunity for exploitation?

    And why is it always so bloody underhanded?

  14. Of all the dim Guardian reporters, Fiona Harvey was, is and always will be the dimmest of them all.

  15. Just my two cents worth here. I think there is a real chance that the global warming thingee, which is primarily about money, power, and prestige, will be dead by summer of next year.

    First, I think it is likely that Trump will get re-elected as President of the United States and that the United States will pretty much be out of the business of funding this thing. Second, China, India, and most of the rest of the third world were only in this for the money. If the money dries up they are out. Third, that only leaves Australia, Canada, the European Union, Japan, New Zealand, and the United Kingdom as active participants. Fourth, there is a real good chance that we going into a global depression. Even these active participant countries will need to re-evaluate if they can afford their global warming hobby anymore when their own economies are collapsing. When your people are losing their jobs and when your economy is in trouble you can’t afford to waste money on windmills. And finally fifth, and most important, there is no real evidence that global warming is even happening.

    I think we are in the final stretch here folks. This thing will be over soon – a victim of the corona virus.

  16. The last COP-out had to be removed from Chile because of pitchforks and torches in the streets, to Spain (probably because the BS signs were already printed in Spanish) where pitchforks and the spirit were long ago confiscated. So, after smooth ops for 24 climate bunfests, 25 and 26 had problems. Let me suggest that they won’t reach number 30.

  17. The one topic fanatics are the last to wake up to our new reality. Covid isolation has caused a paradigm change.

    Regardless of the US election result…

    …There is no money available to spend on green stuff to make electricity more expensive.

    .. there will be super high unemployment, unhappy citizens, lots of other in your face difficult expensive country problems that must be solved.

    The COPs are going to look like a very expensive waste of time and detraction from immediate problems, until we get back to economic normal/healthy…

    …. and have enough money that we can start wasting it again on stupid green stuff.

    Individual home owners, small businesses and some countries are going to go bankrupt if they do not get aid and get the economy running again. The problem is the economic recovery is going to take years because of the destruction of businesses and industries, not months and we have run out money to create and lend.

    The EU was driving the CAGW hype and COP meetings. That is likely going to change as the EU is facing an existential problem.

    Most of the EU country loans in question are from Germany banks. This issue has been on the radar for years.

    France, Italy, Spain, and of course Greece were in trouble before covid killed tourism which is their largest source of revenue.

    There has never been a country that has been allowed to default on its loans. This time is different as the defaulting countries, have large economies and they are EU countries (which is different than let say Argentina).

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/233223/travel-and-tourism–total-economic-contribution-worldwide/

    Total direct and indirect contribution of travel and tourism to the global economy is $9.5 trillion USD.

    Direct tourism spending is $3.9 trillion USD.

  18. These people are nuts. If the coronavirus tells us anything, it is that the UN cannot be trusted on ANYTHING of importance. It tells us that the EU may cease to exist when the virus is through with the bureaucrat clowns in Brussels. It tells us that large disruptions in the economy will not be tolerated for long by the proles. And it tells us that there is no magic money tree other than one similar to the one that Richard Mugabe cranked up which produced 100 trillion dollar bills. Climate change is a dead duck. And any politician who continues down that path will end up like Mussolini strung up by his ankles in a public square.

  19. After watching a video of Sleepy Joe Biden on his Virus Pod Cast I can honestly say that the Democrats must be totally suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome to believe that Joe is going to be their presidential candidate. Only 2500 people watched that pod cast when it was live does that tell you anything. The answers to the questions Joe gave were at best non coherent and just out there. If you think that this man could be President of the Untied States and represent the American people on the world stage then ANY Democrat that votes for this flawed candidate needs to seek Mental Health immediately. Unfortunately Joe is NOT aging well and if he was my relative I would be looking for a good home that provides for people that are suffering from Dementia and Alzheimer’s for Joe. Like my mother before she moved onto that big rainbow in the sky there are definite signs of loss of mental facilities and going by the 7 signs of Alzheimer’s progression chart Joe is somewhere in between 5 and 6 out of 7. They should call this Democrat Derangement syndrome.

    The Democrats woke up after the first primaries when they relies-ed that Bernie Sanders was ahead and if they kept going the way they were going Bernie would control the Democratic party if he won the nomination. All of the Obama hold overs and Wall Street backers were horrified when they figured out that they were about to hand the party control over to a Communist and a Socialist supporter. State controlled everything and taxes to the tune of 80% and higher did not sit well with these supporters. One of Bernie’s platforms that was down right nasty was he was going to have a Guaranteed Income for all. James Woods the actor and Republican supporter ran the numbers and the minimum wage average in the US has a yearly income that is BELOW the minimum tax level. Bernie’s proposal would bring EVERYONE in the US above the minimum tax level so instead of 30% of the population NOT paying any federal tax Everyone would pay. Unfortunately all of the money gained by this forced wage increase would be taxed away and these lower income people would be making less than they would if this wage hike was not instituted. They should have called him Slippery Bernie.

    • I agree. Bid had a stroke on camera, about a month ago. It was his second stroke.

      After the stroke he did a kid glove interview with a nice young CNN reporter.

      When he made mistakes and lost his train of thought, again and again, they both made silly faces as if they were little children, to try to break the tension.

      It would have been sad, if Biden was applying for a job at McDonald’s and needed the money. As he and his family: son, sister, brother, and so on, have made piles of money from his years in politics, it is time to move on.

      Biden is not capable of doing the job, because of the brain damage. He is too old now to completely recover. His brain damage is at the point now where it is only a matter of time before he completely loses control, in a situation such as a debate.

      I have no idea what the Democrats are thinking.

      Oh, I guess that is the problem. The Democrats appear to have no thinkers that care about the country, that dig into issues to avoid wasting public money. They only care about getting power.

  20. The Great Climate Crusades are being felled by a tiny virus picking them off along the road as the long march starts to slow down.

  21. So the democrat party is self destructing and these foreigners think that the democrats have a candidate that might win… Best laugh Ive had today. Lets look at the the Democrat players.

    Joe Biden: suffering from Demetria. Such a bad candidate that Trump is waiting until Biden is nominated before unleashing the negative adds that Biden has not been subjected to until now.

    Bernie Sanders: A man that does not have the guts to stand up to the DNC let alone Trump. Bernie is basically a wimp who is easy to bully as we saw when protestors took the mic away from him. Just imagine what would happen if he had to confront Donal Trump. In addition he has said nice things about socialist mass murders. If you define democratic socialism as socialists who gained power thru the ballot box, This would include Chile, Venezuela, and even the Nazis.

    The Clinton’s: They are lurking in the background slandering all of their enemies or anyone they have a grudge against as being a Russian agent. This includes Trump, Bernie, and Tulsi. Hillary is probably trying to find a way onto the ticket.

    The DNC, Their main problem is that Bernie wont drop out. Its hard for them to replace Biden as Bernie Sanders is still in the race. If Bernie concedes than the DNC is free to pick the candidate. If Bernie does not concede, it goes to a floor fight at the convention.

    Coronavirus: Will there even be an convention? Each day the democrats approach to the crisis seem more like unruly children instead of presidential material. Back in January they were busy with impeachment instead of working to address the crisis. So now they want to investigate the president for his handing of the crisis. Those who can do do, Those who cant do teach, those that cant even teach investigate.

  22. The CAGW scam will continue until it is no longer the best avenue to accomplish the goals of its backers- namely strong central governments with as much control of the economy as possible. The Covid-19 crisis may expose more people to the fallacy of spending based on loosely supported hypotheticals when there are known threats, but it will have more of an effect as opportunity for an excuse to centralize health care and increase emergency powers. If pandemic fear can be twisted to get the same end result, the push for CAGW legislation will fade away.

  23. “The virus has been spread around the world primarily by airplanes”

    An Airline Pilot’s Thoughts about Corona Virus on the Plane

  24. Ain’t gonna happen.

    At this point I’m calling a 43 to 45 state overwhelming tsunami win for Trump, adding Senate seats and taking back the House from Granny McBoxwine Pelosi.

  25. After the dust has settled after the Covid-19 panic, there will be very little spare money left over. The National Banks will not be able to print any mone money without risking a financial collapse. After Covid-19 has finally drawn to a close, there will be a lot of important things that need money spent on them, Money will not be directed to hypothetical, vague, alarmist activities designed to reduce vital CO2 from the atmosphere.

  26. Nicholas Stern, the ‘leading climate economist’ is a pompous fool. When he ‘advised’ the Blair government he proclaimed that if we did nothing by the end of the century Antarctica would have melted completely. Utterly disconnected from and clueless about reality.

  27. “…. rather than propping up the fossil fuel industry” This is one of the misconceptions most warmists seem to have — that oil companies somehow are receiving vast subsidies that ensure their survival. I have seen several studies done by, I assume, “environmental economists” supposedly showing this as a justification for the subsidising renewables. The revenue raised by western governments from their taxes on fuel is huge, in many countries two or three times the retail cost of the product. This was the reason for the oil embargo by OPEC in the seventies when oil was four dollars a barrel and the cream was being taken by the buyers. Oil is now thirty dollars a barrel or less, the lowest since the eighties and production flows on. Oil companies do not need “propping up”.

  28. Blah blah blah economy Sanders Biden oil climate blah blah blah…

    They (the US – the once great superpower) absolutely will have a new president and One-Term-Trump will be consigned to the trashcan of history where he be belongs. No… wait… Americans are really, really that stupid… holy fecking shite Jesus H Christ on a popsicle stick weapons grade stupid. 2nd term for the Gaslighter-in-chief? Seriously, it could happen… if it does, you can bet whatever little self respect you have left that he’ll try to get himself a third term. You heard it here first folks… and the wizard behind the curtain that is the US will be revealed, China will have bought ALL the US debt and then your sorry asses are cooked! The next boot to touch the surface of the Moon will have ‘Made in PRC’ embossed into the sole.
    现在就开始学习中文-您的时间已经过去。

    Resistance is futile. It’s over. It’s been over for the last 20 years. Head on over to the nearest gun shop and get yourself an assault rifle while you can. It’s not the Democrats you should be afraid of, but the Chinese and Russians, who understand Murica better than you do.

    Look – a squirrel!

    • You didn’t hear it here first. I actually had that thought some months ago already and expressed it to my family. Trump is on record for admiring Putin. What better than to try and emulate his model of getting a puppet (somebody from his current team) in for after his next term, assuming he gets reelected? And if he actually loses the election, the supporters of him that have started to take him as their God will accuse anyone of manipulating the election. The USA is on the best way to becoming ungovernable.

      PS: Why are comments like the above, which make fun of killing people, allowed on this site?

  29. This is a thinly veiled attempt to make all fans of cheap electricity vote for that despicable Trump.
    I will, what else can I do?

  30. The only way Trump is going to lose the election is via Democrat electoral FRAUD. Mainstream media LIE about Democrat popularity to make a Democrat victory through fraud seem plausible. What it shows is that MSM itself peddles lies. MSM is the propaganda wing of fraudulent entities.

    Do we really want such fraudulent cheats in charge of the USA? Do we really want false news narrative to be regarded as truth? It is not the first time in human history that the media have been controlled by insidious forces. Just because (after the fact) the world cottoned on to Nazi propaganda does NOT mean we are immune to it. The People have to wake themselves up that they are being fed propaganda – swallow the bitter pill. That bitter reality pill will help with immunity to propaganda.

    For those that have not woken up that MSM are the propaganda wing of the Deep State, now is the time.

  31. I had a virtual team Friday “beer o’clock” session after work yesterday (Having a fridge at work stocked with beer and wine is still an alien concept for me even after 25 years downunder, NZ and Aus), most people were in their homes, I was in the office as part of a skeleton crew so the beer (Cider actually) was free to me (YAY!). We were all in a virtual meeting via MS Teams, and it works rather well IMO. But the discussion soon got on to “leadership” in the current COVID19 scare. And then soon got on the subject of how Trump in the US, Johnson in the UK and Morrison in Aus and how they got elected and how show no leadership in the face of this pandemic. It seemed to me that most of my teammates are not fans of democracy, which surprised me.

  32. “The EU is a basket-case, teetering, so when the European Parliament had the chance to “fix” the carbon market yesterday, they surprised everyone and chose not to. Being unfixed, it’s free to collapse, which it did and by 40%.

    “The Economist headline today is “Carbon Trading Below Junk Status”.

    The EU carbon market once was around €22/tCO2 (that was 2008). Australia turned up five years late to the party, and is still trying to trade at similar rates.

    Today Point Carbon is listing the carbon price as “€2.80“. Obviously, subject to change, and possibly trending-to-zero.

    [BusinessTimes] “Campaigners and traders warn the carbon price could now fall below 2 euros or even to near zero in the coming weeks, and government sales could fail if they don’t meet minimum price requirements, as banks that act as liquidity providers pull out.”

    The EU carbon market is not dead yet, but this could be a game changer
    [The Economist] The rejection [of the bill to rescue the carbon market] was a surprise. The parliament’s environment committee had looked at the plan in February and approved it by a surprisingly wide margin of 38 votes to 25.

    As expected, most members of the largest political alliance, the centre-right European People’s Party, voted against the proposal. This was needed, they argued, to protect consumers from higher energy bills. What came as a surprise is the fact that all but four British conservative members of the European Parliament also voted against the plan. In doing so they defied their own government, which has introduced a carbon floor price in Britain that could soon be higher than the European carbon price. And the European Socialists, which had been expected mostly to back the proposals, instead split, with 44 in favour of the plan and 31 against.”

    Go the Brits!

    The Economist speculates on whether the proposal might be resurrected (it’s been sent back to the environment committee). It could come back. Though ultimately, the MEP’s would have to change their minds. Since it was an important vote, and practically everyone turned up on the day, that’s a good sign. It might be hard to get any version through. Still, hold the champagne. The vote was 334 to 315”

  33. Activists’ only hope of a climate negotiation breakthrough is to get rid of President Trump.

    And the only hope for the rest of mankind grimly hanging on to our wallets and dwindling freedoms is the end of the climate lies and such arrogance and hypocrisy as is clearly visible at these taxpayer funded pig trough fests.

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