German Greens: Use Climate Emergency Declarations to Jail Deniers

http://monopoly.wikia.com/wiki/Go_to_Jail_(card)

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

h/t NoTricksZone, William Astley; A Solar Energy publication in Germany has demanded that politicians use climate emergency declarations as a justification to punish climate “saboteurs”, people who undermine climate action by trivialising the emergency with their climate denial.

From Google Translate;

Downplaying the climate catastrophe endangers human survival – do we have to accept that?

Why the trivialized must not hide behind the fundamental right of freedom of expression

Misleading alleged “studies” or scandal news are still spreading worldwide, the purpose of which is to sow doubts about scientifically proven warnings from climate science. For example, it has been claimed that climate scientists are exaggerating the extent and risks of global warming – in order to secure their jobs and receive more research funding. The aim of such misleading contributions is to continue fossil energy generation and economic activity for as long as possible. The Background section in more detail below .

The damage these fake messages do is immeasurable because their “camouflage” is perfect. Even readers with a good basic knowledge of the natural sciences cannot recognize the untrustworthiness of these cleverly prepared fake messages and consider them to be serious contributions to the discussion on a still undecided topic. So they prefer to wait for a final clarification. It is precisely this waiting that delays the implementation of vital climate protection measures.

One of the latest climate science studies at https://www.pnas.org/content/115/33/8252 now foresees the demise of mankind due to global overheating, if the global economic climate gas emissions are not ended within the next 10 years and active return of greenhouse gases is also introduced worldwide using technical methods. But this study painstakingly avoids any wording that could lead to panic.

At the suggestion of the fridays for future demonstrators, Constance was the first German city to call the “climate emergency ” – a rather symbolic act – but it shows what would be needed . Mayor Burchardt said that from now on all decisions pending in the town council must be assessed in terms of climate protection. At the same time, he called on the federal government to improve the legal framework for climate protection measures.

It is important, not only in Constance, but everywhere in Germany (everyone should first come to their front door) and finally worldwide, to avert the danger to the best of their knowledge and belief. In the event of a climate catastrophe, the natural sciences provide the best knowledge, but not the trivialists. What the trivialists do can be called sabotage. And sabotage of emergency measures should be punished.

No change to the Basic Law is necessary, just a further provision in the “general laws” – here in the Criminal Code – something like this:
“Anyone who trivializes or prevents the climate catastrophe defense against the climate catastrophe according to the Paris Climate Agreement and its follow-up agreements, denies or prevents the climate catastrophe, will be fined up to 300 daily rates. In the event of a repeat sentence, the sentence is imprisonment .

Read more (in German): http://sfv.de/artikel/verharmlosung_der_klimakrise_eine_straftat.htm

Given all the jingoistic green talk of WW2 style mobilisations to address the climate crisis, I guess it was only a matter of time until someone suggested imprisonment for people who sabotage the war effort with their criticism, including scientists who criticise the work of their alarmist colleagues.

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Chris Thompson
January 7, 2020 10:16 pm

What a bloody fruit loop, there is NO climate emergency. When are these people going to stop reading old and misleading data.

Jim
Reply to  Chris Thompson
January 11, 2020 4:28 pm

Well…amazing how half the world (far left) is reverting to the same tactics, the Nazis Party used during the 1930’s/40’s.

Alex
January 7, 2020 10:25 pm

Last year snow. That article is from April 2019

mikewaite
Reply to  Alex
January 8, 2020 4:11 am

The snows of yesterday watered the harvest we are reaping today.

Curious George
Reply to  mikewaite
January 8, 2020 7:47 am

Is this a resurgence of the NSDAP – the National Socialist German Workers’ Party (according to the Wikipedia, a far-right political party)?

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Curious George
January 8, 2020 2:46 pm

Yet again the contradiction in terms, “Socialist”/”far-right political party”! The greatest coup the far-left ever achieved was convincing the World that the Nazis were a party of the political far-right, when their name suggests otherwise! If it’s got the word “Socialist” in its name it’s not on the far-right!!!!

MarkW
Reply to  Alan the Brit
January 8, 2020 5:14 pm

The left defines themselves as all that is good, and the right is all that is evil.
The Nazi’s were bad, therefore they are right wing.

Johann Wundersamer
Reply to  Alan the Brit
January 21, 2020 12:21 am

Alan the Brit January 8, 2020 at 2:46 pm

Yet again the contradiction in terms, “Socialist”/”far-right political party”! The greatest coup the far-left ever achieved was convincing the World that the Nazis were a party of the political far-right, when their name suggests otherwise!
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The usual fallacy to take the word “sozialistic” for granted – by Hitler?

https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-huawei&sxsrf=ACYBGNTMDAfdq9DMkGDRTgJsp-TlUQjNBw%3A1579593388935&ei=rK4mXpveOIKprgSz3L3YCQ&q=hitler+takes+over+nationalsozialistische+deutsche+arbeiterpartei&oq=Hitler+takes+overnationalsozialistische+deutsche+arbeiterpartei&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-serp.

Hitler was antidemocratic, antisocialistic, antimarxistic – all he wanted was revenge for the lost WWI, what he took personally.

Same with Greta Thunberg – prolonged juvenile psychotic disorder:

https://www.google.com/search?q=juvenile+psychotic+disorder&oq=juvenile+psychotic&aqs=chrome.

After WWI he stayed by the army, serving kind of “undercover” in german political parties.

When observing the “Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (NSDAP)” he knew:

This has to be mine, my fascistic base – where fascist only weighs in “Leader command, we will follow absolut.”

MarkW
Reply to  Alex
January 8, 2020 5:13 pm

That makes such attitudes alright?

Nils Nilsen
Reply to  Alex
January 10, 2020 3:42 am

It is not only the alarmists who have scary scenarios. What can happen in a world without fossile fuel is extremely scary, and maybe we should paint the picture clearly! Here is one attempt:
I have a dream. It is so cold. I have hardly slept during the night. Even with all the blankets in the house, I haven’t been able to keep warm enough to sleep.

By old habit I try to switch on the light. Of course, there is no light. We are scheduled to have electricity only between 11 and twelve o clock today, and then only 400 w.

What will I use it for today. Internet maybe. No, not really any purpose. Very few use their rasjon of electricity for the internet, so it is almost dead. No discussion forums, no contact with friends or relatives. I think with nostalgia of the time when we could afford the luxury of sending pictures of the grandkids to each other. We could even send something called videos. Now nobody have enough electricity or bandwidth to send videos. I hope the wind will blow today, just a little bit. Then maybe they will give us 2 hours of electricity. The sun is too low in the winter to produce anything from the solar panels.

I go outside to see if I have any food left on the veranda. I find a frozen bread. We cannot use the fridge of course. I am so hungry, think reflexively that I can thaw it in the microwave. Well, that would have been a luxury. Hadn’t used that one for several years. With an hour of electricity pr day, there was no way I was going to use my meagre 400w for the microwave. I will have to go into the wood to hopefully find some branches that are dry enough to make a fire so I can thaw the bread.

Bread is all we have now. No import of fruits or vegetables, and nothing will grow here in the winter. There are no food shops any more. They have nothing to sell since diesel trucks have been outlawed and trains have also stopped since they needed electricity. Nobody can use wind and solar to power the trains. Most of the local windmills have broken down too, and since trains or other transport has stopped because of lack of electricity, they cannot not be repaired. No spare parts can be transported , no technicians can get to the site, no cranes can lift parts. No factories have power enough to produce steel for blades. Same thing with solar panels. I had heard rumors that they were still produced in China, but nobody in my country has the means to transport or maintain them since there is no possibility of transport.

Anyway, there are no technicians anymore. Trying to stay alive, get som food for the family and some firewood takes the whole day for most people. The winters are not really colder, but it still seems like I will not survive. I have not even been able to bury my dead child. The ground is frozen, I will have to wait until spring. Anna died from a simple infection. There were no doctors. They were also searching for firewood to keep warm. Well, she would stay frozen until spring anyway.

Maybe I should eat her like som of the neighbors have done with their own kids. I have actually heard of some others hoping that at least one of the kids would die so the they would have some food for the rest. Some have even got the religious beliefs that it is right to sacrifice one so the others could eat. Anyway, there are no hospitals anymore so most babies die at birth. I you are lucky the mother would die too and then you would have meat for the whole winter…

Big Al
Reply to  Nils Nilsen
January 10, 2020 1:56 pm

This ain’t fiction anymore, see what’s up at Mildura, Victoria, Australia –

http://www.milduraindependent.com/index.php/news/7534-victoria-s-failing-power-grid-causing-mayhem-locally

with the problems due to failure in controlling the new solar power ‘farm’.

See also the first comment here

https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/doomed-planet/2020/01/addled-in-aotearoa-those-climate-crazy-kiwis/

Patrick MJD
January 7, 2020 10:27 pm

The 1930’s all over again.

Reply to  Patrick MJD
January 8, 2020 6:15 am

They’re setting the stage to act with unrestrained impunity.

Caligula Jones
Reply to  Patrick MJD
January 8, 2020 6:39 am

Yep, was just gonna post a “German fascist threatens opponents with jail”.

jdgalt
Reply to  Caligula Jones
January 8, 2020 2:46 pm

I’d be very tempted to turn the tables on German (and Swedish, and UK) politicians of this stripe by proposing a bill to threaten them with prison if they deny the destructive influence and crime wave that come from letting in millions of alleged refugees from the Middle East. People can’t exactly hug trees if they don’t dare leave home.

Zig Zag Wanderer
January 7, 2020 10:29 pm

I found a nugget of truth in this…

climate scientists are exaggerating the extent and risks of global warming – in order to secure their jobs and receive more research funding.

Komrade Kuma
January 7, 2020 10:33 pm

Well, “SEIG HEIL” to that.

To ze genius einzatsgruppenfuhreres at the “Solar Publication” in question, what a brilliant ideology!!

Und its der Deutschfolk coming up with another brilliant final solution.

/sarc

And if you think I am going a bit hard just remember such fascist, draconian legislation would just be the first step.

CD in Wisconsin
Reply to  Komrade Kuma
January 8, 2020 8:01 am

“Well, “SEIG HEIL” to that”

Yup. It is disturbing to see some Germans in Deutschland today who have learned absolutely nothing from their country’s Nazi past. Forget the past and repeat its mistakes.

Indeed, what IS their “final solution” to the “problem” of climate skeptics?

MarkW
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
January 8, 2020 3:49 pm

This time it will work, because this time we will be the ones in charge. /sarc

Zig Zag Wanderer
January 7, 2020 10:33 pm

It is important, not only in Constance, but everywhere in Germany (everyone should first come to their front door) and finally worldwide, to avert the danger to the best of their knowledge and belief.

I definitely will. I shall do nothing, as per the best d My knowledge and belief. Satisfied?

Not sure about the “front door” bit. Something lost in translation? Perhaps a German expression I’m not aware of?

observa
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
January 7, 2020 11:27 pm

I sense refuseniks marked with a star get issued a towel and soap before being shown the front door so they don’t suspect what’s beyond it and being contextualised.

H.R.
Reply to  observa
January 8, 2020 3:23 am

I may never shower again.

[Knock-knock] “It’s shower time, Mr. H.R.”

“Nahhh… I’m good. Just took a sponge bath. Y’all go along without me.”

Rich Davis
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
January 8, 2020 2:56 am

Es gilt, nicht nur in Konstanz, sondern überall bei uns in Deutschland (jeder sollte zuerst vor seiner Haustür kehren) und schließlich weltweit, die Gefahr nach bestem Wissen und Gewissen entschlossen abzuwehren.

It should have been translated “everyone should first sweep in front of his (own) house door”

Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
January 8, 2020 3:06 am

The real meaning is “to clean the way to it’s own frondoor”.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Krishna Gans
January 8, 2020 3:58 am

Denn heute gehört uns Deutschland. Und morgen die ganze Welt.
(Because today Germany belongs to us. And tomorrow, the whole world).

Isn’t that the quote that aligns with this excerpt?

Reply to  Rich Davis
January 8, 2020 5:51 am

Not so far, exact.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Krishna Gans
January 8, 2020 9:52 am

I refer to “überall in Deutschland und schließlich weltweit“

Not an exact parallel, but uncomfortably close.

Richard Saumarez
Reply to  Krishna Gans
January 8, 2020 3:59 pm

Is it? Wouldn’t that be “zu” not “vor”?

Ivo Schaefer
January 7, 2020 10:43 pm

They are located only 30 mins from where I live.
Might drop by next time I’m in Aachen ans show them the international sign of peace; my middle finger 🙂

George Tetley
Reply to  Ivo Schaefer
January 8, 2020 3:54 am

Ivo,
you must realise that showing your middle finger in Germany is VERBOTEN. and comes with a minimum 500 euro fine !

January 7, 2020 10:44 pm

Kristelnacht.

Craig from Oz
January 7, 2020 10:45 pm

Like the saying goes – Scratch a Green, get fleas.

Also the other one, Scratch a green and find a totalitarian under the surface.

John Endicott
Reply to  Craig from Oz
January 8, 2020 5:24 am

Scratch the surface of a green and all you will find is red.

John V. Wright
January 7, 2020 10:46 pm

Also interesting that these poor saps are taking the Paris Agreement as the holy writ of what must not be criticised. They obviously don’t understand what is in it.

Zig Zag Wanderer
January 7, 2020 10:48 pm

One of the latest climate science studies at https://www.pnas.org/content/115/33/8252 now foresees the demise of mankind due to global overheating, if the global economic climate gas emissions are not ended within the next 10 years and active return of greenhouse gases is also introduced worldwide using technical methods. But this study painstakingly avoids any wording that could lead to panic.

And yet, if you actually read the report, it is a quagmire of terrifying scenarios that have no real basis in any actual science, and is completely at odds with the CAGW ™ bible, the IPCC reports (ignoring the Summaries for Policy-makers that are written by politicians). It also calls for full socialist control in order to ‘solve’ the imagined problems, of course!

There are so many speculations, all wrapped in weasel could’s, might’s and may’s, all trying to justify a figure of 2C increase tipping point that is utterly made up. It’s just pulled from someone’s fundament with no proof or physical justification.

In any case, the mantra is 1.5C now, get with the program! (because they now think we won’t reach 2C, because it turns out CO2 is not driving the climate at all…)

Cousyman
January 7, 2020 11:00 pm

You can’t take the Nazi out of a German. It is deeply embedded in their DNA.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Cousyman
January 8, 2020 4:11 am

Sounds a little bit like der ewige Jude (the eternal Jew) argument that purported to explain why all Jews are bad and can’t be changed.

If you wanted to argue that German culture has some deep flaws that cause recurring attraction to utopian abstractions, I might think there is something to that. But a racial/genetic argument is imho dangerous and wrong.

Sparko
Reply to  Rich Davis
January 8, 2020 5:24 am

The Germans will never change, they have an inbuilt need to believe in systems, and they are born to follow the rules.
I got attacked ( with an umbrella ) by an middle aged hausfrau in Frankfurt for not using a pedestrian crossing. It was chucking it down, there wasn’t a car in sight, and the crossing was about 100 yards away. but hey, Rules are Rules.

Reply to  Sparko
January 8, 2020 5:54 am

Next step, export these rules with all consequences.

Bemused Bill
January 7, 2020 11:06 pm

I read a thing a while back about Merkel, an ex-Stasi highflyer, who was suggesting that school children should be encouraged to inform on their parents and others who deny global warming….
To whatever sane Germans are out there…somewhere…I do not apologize for posting this very apt look at the German psyche, “if a glove fits you should wear it.” Advice I heard from a German, who was taken aback by my response.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWF8iRCan7I

commieBob
Reply to  Bemused Bill
January 8, 2020 1:46 am

So … everybody should just accept the stereotypes applied to them? That road leads to Auschwitz.

Rich Davis
Reply to  commieBob
January 8, 2020 9:46 am

Exactly. Especially if the theory is that cultural norms are genetically determined.

I’m sure it’s true that German culture on the whole is more organized, and values order in a way that is not true for many other cultures, but that is learned behavior, transmitted not by genes but by language and culture. Passed down from parents to children by how they are raised, not by their DNA.

Fanakapan
Reply to  Rich Davis
January 8, 2020 5:39 pm

Most Germans under age 60 today will have been raised in the times when the Nazizeit became the focus of painting the older generation as blackguards ?

Could that be a flaw in your reasoning ? If so, could it indicate some seep seated cultural bias that wont go away ? 🙂

Reply to  Bemused Bill
January 8, 2020 7:23 am

I am glad that my ancestors had the good sense to leave Germany in the late 1740s.

Photios
Reply to  ontherocks
January 8, 2020 11:00 am

Most Englishmen’s ancestors left Germany in the 440s to 540s

Johann Wundersamer
Reply to  ontherocks
January 21, 2020 12:35 am

Photios January 8, 2020 at 11:00 am

Most Englishmen’s ancestors left Germany in the 440s to 540s –> most Anglo-Saxon ancestors left Germany in the 440s to 540s for nowadays UK.

January 7, 2020 11:25 pm

Perhaps they could have some camps where they could concentrate these people?
They cold be called concentration camps.

Garland Lowe
January 7, 2020 11:25 pm

Who will play Hitler in this sequel?

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Garland Lowe
January 8, 2020 5:36 am

Well, since the (Eco) Nazis are so “progressive” these days, I’m sure Herr Merkel would be a good candidate. Her resume supports the role, as an ex-Stasi “official,” and who knows, maybe she could even grow an appropriate mustache! The right haircut/dye job and a few temper tantrums, and she might be indistinguishable from the original article!

All kidding aside, I don’t mean to denigrate Germans in general, but the idiots who put this screed out there deserve every bit of ridicule and denigration they get!

Dennis
January 7, 2020 11:27 pm

Appropriate that this should come from Germany. Perhaps all of us skeptics/deniers should be made to wear a yellow Star of David (or should that be a green star). Perhaps get a tattooed number for identification? Oh, and wasn’t Hitler a militant vegetarian, as well?

Carl Friis-Hansen
Reply to  Dennis
January 8, 2020 2:24 am

“Oh, and wasn’t Hitler a militant vegetarian, as well?”

Correct, and he loved animals more than people, they say.
How is it with Greens these days: “Third Rock From the Sun, nature and animals before common people.”

Greg Cavanagh
Reply to  Carl Friis-Hansen
January 8, 2020 1:29 pm

Romans 1:25 “… and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator… ”

The surrounding passages provide a vivid descriptions of the modern day culture.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Greg Cavanagh
January 8, 2020 9:39 pm

“and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator”

Maybe their bible had a typo. You know, like Faith, Hop, and Charity.

H/T Arnold Rimmer.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
January 8, 2020 9:52 pm

Many non-British won’t get that! Funny though! Great comedy, got tired in the later years.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
January 11, 2020 2:17 pm

Well, I’m non-british. 🙂

Always loved British humor, ever since discovering Monty Python on a PBS station in the early 70s. Could never get a good picture with the old rabbit ears.

Johann Wundersamer
Reply to  Dennis
January 21, 2020 12:54 am

Dennis January 7, 2020 at 11:27 pm

Appropriate that this should come from Germany. Perhaps all of us skeptics/deniers should be made to wear a yellow Star of David (or should that be a green star) –

No. That should be a (black/red/yellow (golden)) (right populist) star.

January 7, 2020 11:45 pm

“Use Climate Emergency declaration as a justification to punish climate “saboteurs”, people who undermine climate action by trivialising the emergency with their climate denial”

And the Population Bomb Emergency too, please. Way too many are trivializing this grave threat to the planet.

https://tambonthongchai.com/2019/12/25/earth-day-wisdom/

https://tambonthongchai.com/2019/12/23/climateemergency/

Stonyground
January 7, 2020 11:52 pm

People who have the facts on their side don’t need to resort to such methods. The reason that these people are calling for “deniers” to be imprisoned is because they are unable to refute their arguments. When I say that so called climate science has been predicting disasters for thirty years, non of which have occurred, all they need to do is name one.

Chaamjamam
Reply to  Stonyground
January 8, 2020 3:06 am

Good point!

Gerry, England
Reply to  Stonyground
January 8, 2020 5:51 am

Which could lead to an interesting trial as the ‘evidence’ of the climate emergency is put to the test. The alarmists have always – apart from Thin-skinned Mann – kept away from the courts unless they are exposed. The Exxon Knew case was about what ‘secret’ information they had and not whether global warming was true.

Irritable Bill
January 8, 2020 12:13 am

Appropriate that this should come from Germany. Perhaps all of us skeptics/deniers should be made to wear a yellow Star of David (or should that be a green star). Perhaps get a tattooed number for identification? Oh, and wasn’t Hitler a militant vegetarian, as well?

Yes he was, and an environmentalist, he also believed in the power of wind and electric cars. The main different between Hitler and the current lot of socialists is that Hitler loved his country…the current lot hate theirs and what all this bullshit is about, is destroying their own country.

January 8, 2020 1:01 am

thanks for sharing this information . Perhaps they could have some camps where they could concentrate these people? They cold be called concentration camps.
current affairs

Stephen Richards
January 8, 2020 1:02 am

The NAZIs are back in the form of greens. We have a fight on our hands, people. As in the 30s, the Nazis are being supported by the MSM and that was the final kick start to the WWII

E J Zuiderwijk
January 8, 2020 1:09 am

As the original is in German one kan spot an anomaly at the end. What’s missing is ‘Sieg Heil’.

Michael Ozanne
January 8, 2020 1:23 am

It’s Germany, they just need to pass an Ermächtigungsgesetz…. they’ve had practice…

Alexander Vissers
January 8, 2020 1:30 am

Wolf von Fabeck,the author who lived and worked in West Germany moved to the former German Democratic Republic (DDR) to the city of Magdeburg and clearly was charmed by the totalitarian principles of the DDR regime. He is a mechanical engineer and holds no political office. Extreme left thinking is nothing new or exceptional in Germany, one should not pay too much attention.

IraMad
Reply to  Alexander Vissers
January 8, 2020 8:41 am

Yes. Didn’t you know? The Thought Police is required to keep the Green Commandments, and to keep the rabble in line.

conrad goehausen
January 8, 2020 1:36 am

Strange that the study they cite, which they claim “now foresees the demise of mankind due to global overheating, if the global economic climate gas emissions are not ended within the next 10 years” doesn’t say anything at all about the demise of mankind. It’s “hothouse earth” scenario covers many centuries, and depicts some more difficult conditions to adapt to, but nowhere does it suggest that even this far-fetched future would result in the demise of mankind. Where do they get this from?

Graemethecat
Reply to  conrad goehausen
January 8, 2020 3:27 am

Proponents of catastrophic global overheating have never explained why Earth never suffered overheating during the Medieval or the Roman Warm Periods, when temperatures were substantially higher than today.

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