Did “Che” Greta Call for Execution of World Leaders Who Defy Her Commands?

Guest counter-revolutionary activity by David Middleton

From Breitbart

Nolte: Greta Thunberg Says We Will ‘Put World Leaders Against the Wall’

By JOHN NOLTE 14 Dec 2019

Time’s “Scold of the Year,” Greta Thunberg, told a crowd in Italy that “we will make sure we put world leaders against the wall” if they do not do what she tells them to do.

On her way home, the 16-year-old Swedish eco-activist and chronic truant stopped to address a Fridays for Future gathering in Turin, Italy, at which she went the full-Fidel Castro.

“Unfortunately, we probably already know the outcome. World leaders are still trying to run away from their responsibilities but we have to make sure they cannot do that. We will make sure that we put them against the wall and they will have to do their job to protect our futures,” she said, according to the Daily Mail.

“Against the wall” is fairly common jargon in revolutions, especially youthful revolutions, and the accepted translation means executions — lots and lots of executions, specifically firing squads, where the old leaders are permanently removed by fresh-faced revolutionaries.

During the speech, and while wearing what looks like a plastic — and, therefore, a petroleum-based — yellow rain slicker, Greta shouted her usual spiel about how The Children should be in charge of everything because The Children will have to live in a future that will not exist unless we return to the Dark Ages of wind and solar power, unless we accept socialism.

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Breitbart

Anyone who’s ever read Douglas Adams or listened to the great Jerry Jeff Walker knows what “up against the wall” means.

The Hitchhiker’s Travel Guide describes the Marketing Department of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation as:

“A bunch of mindless jerks who’ll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes.”

Curiously, an edition of the Encyclopedia Galactica which conveniently fell through a rift in the time-space continuum from 1000 years in the future describes the Marketing Department of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation as:

“A bunch of mindless jerks who were the first against the wall when the revolution came.”

Fandom

Although, I’ve never quite figured out who was getting put up against the wall. Did Ray Wylie Hubbard mean the redneck or his mother?

Che Greta-vara blames it all on “Swenglish”…

It does appear that “up against the wall” has a different meaning in Swedish:

Vi har beslutat att ställa ett land, ett folk, mot väggen och begär vidare att det skall avrusta fullständigt – till på köpet vi, och i ännu högre grad Förenta staterna, som tillverkar, exporterar och använder massförstörelsevapen.

English translation:

We have decided to stand a country, a nation, up against the wall and then we demand that it totally disarm; we – or more to the point the United States – who manufacture, export and use weapons of mass destruction. 

https://www.linguee.com/english-swedish/translation/against+the+wall.html

I’m not sure that’s any less insane.

160 thoughts on “Did “Che” Greta Call for Execution of World Leaders Who Defy Her Commands?

  1. Probably just a reference to Jerry Jeff Walker…

    And it’s up against the wall, redneck mother
    Mother who has raised her son so well
    He’s thirty four and drinkin’ in a honky tonk
    Just kickin’ hippies’ asses and raisin’ hell

  2. As expected, this childish emotional rhetoric is getting carried away with itself; it’s what happens when you let the ignorant generate uncontrolled self-importance. History does teach that it’s the fodder of revolutions; I wonder how many people will be ready.

    Laughing at the tin-foil hats now? If we don’t get some calmer heads taking control of this soon, those heads might find themselves in a bucket.

    • Reminds me of a certain king and his, “who will rid me of this troublesome priest ” statement.
      If she has advocated, putting them up against a wall, (regardless of what she hastily suggested it means in Swedish ) some crazed climate warrior may just do that.
      She has placed real fear into the minds of her followers mainly impressionable children who Perceive the world in imminent crisis without a future.
      A dangerous, but wholly expected path for a cult.

      • She’s an exasperating little brat, but it’s clear she didn’t mean to shoot world leaders because she says putting them against the wall is needed to ensure those same leaders – ‘they’ – ‘will have to do their job to protect our futures’ – something ‘they’ would have a hard time doing if they were riddled with gun shot.

        Much as I enjoy a lot of Breitbart this is just clickbait.

        • The metaphor is still one of threatening to kill someone. The idea is of pointing a gun at someone, making them stand against the wall with the implicit threat that the next step it a bullet in the head if they don’t do what you tell them.

          If they agree, you let them live and get on with do what you told them to do.

          She’s realised that lying about an ongoing 6th mass extinction and shouting “HOW DARE YOU?!” at people is not that effective, so she’s turning to threats.

          • Greg; no, the phrase means to demand an answer from somebody, to put them in a position where they can’t slink away, but have to face their opponent.

            However, it is totally crazy to demand de-armament from any nation. And what is “mass destruction” anyway? Is the time factor a saving grace? Is it ok to kill a million slowly, by conventional war, but not all at once by nuclear war? It seems like a very articifical moral distinction to me.

        • I think you are giving her too much leeway. I believe she meant this and did not expect any kind of reaction. It is typical for people like her to keep pushing until there is resistance. She knew what she was saying.

          • As I say to many a Greenalist, when you gas us all, will it be by conventional natural gas or fracked natural gas? Never got a sensible reply to that one!

          • Let’s see…she:
            – wears Antifa clothing
            – carries socialist banners
            – claims her identity group owns the future
            – puts on hate face and says we shall not be forgiven
            – says she believes we have “stolen the future” from her generation
            – and now threatens to put leaders instinct the wall

            Now that she ( she does not speak extemporaneously, every word is scripted and handed to her) has clearly gone too far and used language that everyone knows what it means, and *whoops* people were paying attention, and the little darling has gone on record calling for executions.
            Enter damage control mode!
            It was, you see, all a misunderstanding.
            Golly, none of her handlers knew that putting leaders up against the wall is a well known and universally understood call to extreme violence!
            Their English ain’t so great all of a sudden.
            It is a harmless phrase in some other language.

            Yeah right!
            And Antifa are peaceful protesters.
            Socialism is a kind and gentle ideology.
            Owning the future, stolen her dreams, never be forgiven…those are all just lighthearted figures of speech.
            When she calls for stopping usage of all fossil fuels and nuclear power immediately, it is not meant to endanger anyone, like the vast majority of people who will quickly die if she gets her wish.
            Let’s be honest. This is language meant to rule and anger people, to incite emotion and turn off logic and reason. This is the language and the banner of violent people and revolution.
            Antifa girl and her Antifa parents mean no harm to those they rail against!

          • There was a young lady named Greta
            Who told us all we should live better
            While talking us down
            She choked on her frown
            And now we just try to forget ‘er

        • She doesn’t need to mean it, she just has to say it. Her target audience are sufficiently ignorant, enough to turn unintended words into a dangerous reality.
          It’s not the first time that Climate Sceptics have been threatened with ancient measures. We have even seen the old Book burning ritual, make a brief return, followed by a, ”they didn’t mean it” apology.
          Given that Greta’s every word is carefully chosen, I’m sure her handlers knew exactly what they were doing, even if she hasn’t a clue.

          Eamon.

          • It must be a perfect utopian world where there are no adults. What age does she consider as adult? If it is 21 she has 5 years to go before the wall. That is what i call ‘No Future’.

          • Robertvd, that was the premise of Logan’s Run (the novel, the movie & tv show opted to up the end age to 30). In fact it was a 16 year old, Chaney Moon, a charismatic speaker that came up with the plan, and at 21 he showed his dedication by become the first to publicly embrace “Sleep” (IE euthanization at the age of 21). Young America accepted this bold new method of saving the planet (from over population), and the Thinker was programmed to enforce it. Eventually all remaining older citizens were executed and the first of the giant Sleep-shops went into fulltime operation in Chicago. One thing the young were sure of; they would never again place their fate in the hands of an older generation. By 2072 all the world was young

        • Really? The 16 year old “brat” is little more than a parrot but even she knows the meaning of the term; your pedantic excuse suggesting a further role for the same leaders instead of the certain result from putting them against the wall is plain silly.
          It smacks of a desperate attempt to excuse this highly unpleasant and disturbed child.

          • Yes, you are right.

            Please don´t try to twist those words meaning something else. They mean executions.
            She is Joanne of Arc, leader of the Holy Climate War.

        • So similar to the words Pedo Guy meaning not what we think in South Africa ?

          Funny how these phrases always turn out be something else in translation when the klaart hits the fan 🙂

        • “She’s an exasperating little brat, but it’s clear she didn’t mean to shoot world leaders because she says putting them against the wall is needed to ensure those same leaders – ‘they’ – ‘will have to do their job to protect our futures’ – something ‘they’ would have a hard time doing if they were riddled with gun shot.”

          I agree. It doesn’t look like she is talking about harming anyone. She just wants to get their attention in hopes they will then take the action she wants them to take..

        • No she meant shooting them, so the next batch of leaders would know to follow her command or meet the same fate.

        • It’s Henry II not Henry 11. And as the line is also sometimes expressed with “troublesome” or “meddlesome” in place of “turbulent”, “troublesome priest” is a perfect acceptable reading of the line.

  3. Greta Thunberg is Exhibit #1 that the UN’s demand for Climate Change action has anything to do with science.
    Sane adults must recognize this use of an emotional, teenage ‘climate prophet’ as good for religious crusades and raising money for their undertaking, not much else.

    Climate Change may be many things to many different groups, but it is no longer science in any way, shape, or form. That the UNFCCC allowed a 16 yr old know nothing to have a forum at COP25 speaks volumes to how devoid of substance is their climate science argument.

    • Joel – exactly. You hit it right on the head.

      This child’s preeminence as a spokesperson for the “movement” is a sign of weakness, not strength.

      With that being said, however, it must also be said that bloody revolutions are virtually never supported by majority support or consent, but rather are carried out by small groups of extremely committed and extremely violent radicals who shock the majority and the ruling power who could never imagine how ruthless and murderous the radicals would act given a spark.

      When radicals talk the way Thurnberg talks, we better believe them, and then our governments must ruthlessly suppress them.

      Al Qaeda warned us for years they were going to kill us … and then they did.

      • “governments must ruthlessly suppress them.”

        Duane,
        Do you know anything about history?
        This is totally wrong and backwards thinking.
        That’s what they want. They want to become martyrs.
        They want to become political prisoners.
        They all dream of becoming some kind of Nelson Mandela (a political prisoner) or MLK, Jr ( a martyr). They equate their climate religion cause with the real human injustices of the past. In most cases they want/need an over-reaction from a government.

  4. Let them dine on tarantula poppers to lead the path to eco-insecto cuisine to address the climate crisis.

  5. I remember when half the world demonstrated against the US invasion of Iraq. In that light, it amuses me a lot to think someone thinks anyone could hold the US accountable for anything. That qualifies for dreaming in technicolor in cloud cuckoo land. I wonder if they banged a shoe on the table as they made their threat. link

    • Commie did you hear Pelosi’s response when asked if Bush should have been impeached for weapons of mass destruction?

      To paraphrase she said no, but she knew the evidence was wrong 🤪

      Only in the Dem’s world can they come up with a reason to impeach Trump.

    • Well, Iraq did invade Kuwait. And despite the wars persistence through another administration, the ceasefire was not viable, and the war would have to end eventually. And so it did, only to be renewed and recycled in a Greater Middle East War with the succeeding administration.

  6. “Did ‘Che’ Greta Call for Execution of World Leaders Who Defy Her Commands?”

    Betteridge’s law of headlines is an adage that states: “Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no”. It is named after Ian Betteridge, a British technology journalist who wrote about it in 2009, although the principle is much older.

    [https:/]/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headlines

    However, given that Sweden was under German’s rule in WW2, the phrase probably has the expected Germanic meaning, in addition to its colloquial meaning. This use of double meaning is doubtless intentional, a threat that can be disclaimed.

    [https:/]/en.bab.la/dictionary/swedish-english/st%C3%A4lla-n%C3%A5gon-mot-v%C3%A4ggen

    Why teenagers think they can stand nations up against the wall is astonishingly arrogant; but keep in mind they will be voting and in the next 20 years or so will be dominant in various western democracies that still allow voting and still have some sense of what votes mean. Those nations that disarm will probably not last very long.

        • Yes Sweden was neutral in WWw. Finland on the other hand fought with Germany on the basis of my Enemy ‘s enemy is my friend. In this case The USSR being the common enemy, Winter War and Karelia.

          • We had two wars. First with Germany against USSR. After that we had war against Germany (Lapin sota / Lapplands war), to get Germany out.

      • David, I usually enjoy reading your posts. I often disagree (well pretty much always), but please, there is no need to stoop to Worrel’s click bait MO. Anti-Greta baiting is pretty tacky.

        • She allowed, with the “help” of her parents, to be put “out there”, so she should bare the consequences.

          Tackiness is due to her parents.

          • She is still a minor so her legal guardians are responsible. At the moment Greta has a small army of ‘guardians’ so it will need a large court house to prosecute them all.

          • Patrick MJD December 15, 2019 at 1:55 am
            I don’t mean to sound like I’m teaching you to suck eggs but I do need to articulate this. Common wisdom is that responsibility comes with age and as a consequence of having responsibilities. Young people should not get the vote until they are at least 18 although that age is based on the idea that a young person may have started work at 14 and so learnt something about responsibilities by the time they get to 18. Unfortunately, western education systems have become institutional methods of extending childhood. In the case of Greta she is still a child and behaves like one. If we make her responsible that then lowers the bar for the age of consent and provides ammunition for those that think children should tell adults how the world should work.

          • Islamist put children in front of military targets. Somehow place a emotionally disturbed child into the mist of a political movement appears similar.

    • Sweden was not under German rule in WWII. They were neutral. They were never occupied. And language doesn’t care whether you’re occupied or not, it evolves in its own ways.

      • And yet so neutral that I was reliably informed by a foundry industry expert who visited Sweden during the war, that he was shocked to see their foundrys full of castings for the German war machine being exported as “machine parts”

    • “However, given that Sweden was under German’s rule in WW2,….”
      Uh, no!
      Sweden was neutral as was Switzerland and Spain. Sweden and Switzerland did what they could get away with to help the allied cause. Spain was more friendly to the Germans. Many an allied flyer landed their damaged or low on fuel aircraft in Sweden or bailed out over that country and were secretly repatriated via regular flights of British aircraft in the dead of the night. Many of the International Red Cross representatives that monitored conditions in German POW camps were Swedish.

      • “Switzerland did what they could get away” LOL.

        They may have been passage to safety as a neutral country but don’t dream they were secretly “on our side”. Switzerland was neutral because it was holding the fortunes of the goverment leaders on both sides. They were neutral in the sense that they were helping both sides.

        • Switzerland was quite friendly to the allies compared to Spain. Many a US aviator was repatriated from Switzerland, including Chuck Yeager.

    • Sweden wasn’t under German rule in WW2. It was a nominally neutral country. Sold materials to both sides.

  7. She has aspergers. It’s a serious mental disorder, it’s not her fault and nothing to ridicule.
    What I will question though…is why the whole world has do do what a teenage girl w/ a serious mental disorder tells us to do.

      • Do you think Bill Gates and Anthony Hopkins don’t hold eye contact?

        This uneducated girl is being used, and her fear stirred up by the adult lefties in her life so they can use her as their puppet. It’s tantamount to abuse.

    • Someone with Asberger’s has difficulty understanding how something they do or say will be perceived by others. It is both an interesting gap to watch, and a cause of early dismissal from work.

      Adults in the room should prevail. Don’t treat the girl as if she is an adult. As many note, the core problem is her parents and the deliberate misrepresentation of what little science there is supporting a catastrophic tipping point in the climate system.

      There are numerous tipping points in the political world and we may have just witnessed one of them. The rabble will not let this incident go. History shows that those who put others up against the wall often end with their backs to one. What goes around comes around. Ask Che, or that little twerp Mussolini. I think “moussolini” means “little mouse” in Canadian.

      • It’s Aspergers – with a “p”. In the US, it’s now officially recognized under Autism Spectrum Disorder. The Asperger’s term is no longer used.

        Some researcher’s believe “Autism” is actually a host of related disorders. (re: the variety of presentation.) There are a number of identified genetic factors, as well as some environmental during pre-natal development. There are identified disabilities associated with lack of development of the Corpus Callosum that bear a striking similarity to some challenges those on the spectrum deal with everyday. (just an aside: boys require 3Xs more essential fatty acids as girls for development of the corpus callosum. Starting in utero.). Hence the saying – if you’ve met ten people with autism, you’ve met ten people with autism.

        Some of those with ASD1 – can hold eye contact. (re: Bill Gates. Or Anthony Hopkins. – he’s stated the way he rubs his hands for his roles is actually stimming.) I have two children officially diagnosed. Even my more affected 14 year old, can hold eye contact.

        While I think this shrill girl is ignorant (desired by the adults in her life using her as a tool), – we should not be ignorant.

        • Nothing prrsonal, but there is no one the quacks who call themselves psychologists will not “diagnose”.
          No one.
          She has no symptoms that are the common hallmarks.
          None.
          The people who say she has it, also say she can literally see CO2.
          And she has superpowers.
          And she is gifted with keen insight into matters of complex science, ecology, and economics.
          And we should need her advice to shut down all fossil and nuclear energy production, at once. IOW stop what keeps us all alive, fed, housed, clothed, unfrozen, healthy, and emp!oyed. At once. To save ourselves from a dangerous future.
          Because she knows best, being that she has dropped out of school due to her being so sure and feeling so strongly about it.
          And yet she gives frequent speeches in which very nearly every utterance is demonstrably untrue.

          Oh but you have kids so we need to just shut up and believe what we are told.
          By a hate faced lying antifa shirt wearing middle school dropout science expert who has convinced millions of kids that school is a waste of time.
          GMAFB

    • As someone who also has Asperger’s, I can tell you it is not any “serious mental disorder.” For one, it depends on the level that one has it. It is just a difference in the wiring of the brain. It does not mean the person is at all going to be nuts, violent, or any such thing. In fact, an Aspie can be the ideal person to have in charge in situations where emotions are running high because they, being much more logic-based people, often can look cooly at the facts as opposed to how most people act.

      I would even go so far as to say that to many Aspies, “regular” people are the ones who have a disorder, because the way “regular” people behave is often perplexing, illogical, and outright absurd to many an Aspie. You will virtually never find an Aspie that gets caught up in the mania of crowds for example. We just aren’t wired that way.

        • Funny it also has another name: Heartless prick.
          And suddenly in the 1980s, it turns out nearly every boy has ADHD, and autism spectrum disorders skyrocket off the charts.
          Either the mental health of the world changed, or some genius decided there needs to be a syndrome for every personality type.
          I for one am too aware of the history to buy this victimology-based everyone-has-a-disorder crap.

          If that fiends anyone…too bad.
          If someone telling you you are not special or different is offensive to you, your problem is not a mental disorder, but an emotional one.
          The idea that most people are all the same except for all the people who have ever had a “diagnosis” and who exist in a purely subjectively evaluated “spectrum” is what is know in other fields as “marketing genius”

    • Please stop with the apologies for a bully. There is real hate in her words and her rants are just a prime example of bulliies everywhere. The only thing wrong with here is the way she has been brainwashed but like all brainwashed people the belief in the cause is all encompassing and all consuming.
      Branch davidians exhibit A? willing to die for the cause
      Jim Jones followers?

      Greta is no different as far as i am coincerned

  8. Greta suffers from multiple psychological disorders give HER break. Her handlers and especially her parents not so much or at all.

    • Not sure about the the psychological disorders, even though I assisted with another who had an uncanny resemblance to Greta. She could be a talented actor. After all, she seemed to enjoy crossing the Atlantic in a small if luxurious craft. Maybe that’s what she needs. Perhaps Nikki Henderson could take her on as a trainee and give the rest of us a break.

    • Whose words are we listening when Greta talks?

      She is, of course, her parents tool to revolution, but she is also the voice and the face of green movement.
      In history we have had many many mentally disordered people. When they talked to people, it was same kind of propaganda proclamation. And the result was millions bodies.
      We should be very careful to give her break, just because she is a child. Those who believe, hear her voice talking words which they love to hear, loud and clear.
      War needs just one spark to start flaming hell. Is Greta the spark deliverer, is the question we should ask.

  9. Why do we have this nonsense from this girl.
    There is only a climate emergency in her mind and her handlers .
    The world is not going to hell in a hand cart and the sooner some one tells her the better .
    This can all be traced back to Ben Santer in 1995 when he was the lead author for the 1995 IPCC report .
    Santer rewrote the conclusions from ” None of the studies cited has shown clear evidence that we can attribute the observed ( climate ) change to the specific cause of increase of green house gases.”
    Here are the entries that appeared after Santer rewrote them.
    1 “There is evidence of an emerging pattern of climate response to forcing by greenhouse gases and sulphate aerosols…from the geographical seasonal and vertical patterns of temperature change….
    These results point toward discernible human influence on the global climate .”
    2 ” The body of statistical evidence in chapter 8 that we examined in the context of our physical understanding of the climate system ,now points to a discernible human influence on the global climate ”

    Ok Nick Stokes will appear at any moment and say that they wrote a paper to back up this claim and peer reviewed it by their peers after Santer had altered the findings presented to the IPCC.
    I am sorry to tell you this Greta but this whole climate change is a sham and a scam.
    It is an unproven theory that has been pushed by many to take advantage of the worlds population and if they are allowed to take control things will end very badly in widespread poverty and unrest .

    • I’ve had several decades of first-hand experience as minutes-taker in corporate management and board meetings.
      I realized early on that the one who records the minutes is where the real power resides.
      Santer proved my observation.

  10. Greta suffers from multiple psychological disorders, so give HER break. Her handlers, her parents and especially her fans and promoters, not so much or at all.

  11. Only the truck nuts up against the wall apparently-
    https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/is-fragile-masculinity-the-biggest-obstacle-to-climate-action/ar-AAK7xPl
    Not hard to see where Greta gets it from but perhaps our illustrious Perfessor of Gender and War at the University of Sydney might consider for a moment how she’s really Metooing a lot of Manns in the tree ring circus having her on and leading her astray. Be careful of intellectual rape my dear as they might have the hots for you.

  12. I don’t know any Swedish, but I do know that the same expression in French “mettre quelqu’un contre le mur” has the same benign meaning as “holding someone’s feet to the fire”. Greta Thunberg never made any violent threats before, I think we can’t read too much into what seems to be a poorly translated expression.

  13. Granted Greta is ignorant. That can’t be said of the panel of Nobel Prize winners I just heard who were participating in a round table discussion moderated by the BBC. The three economists don’t count because they practice a discipline more akin to divination than science, but the physicists, chemists and biologists were all in the tank on climate change. Their big lament was that too many folks don’t pay attention to “facts” and “science” anymore. Is it any wonder?

    IOW it’s not just Greta and the children’s crusade.

    I can see why a clown like Michael Mann, or the equally dubious Bill Nye, are hysterical about climate change. None of these scientists were working in a field related to climate science, yet they believed.

    I do understand that there are scientists working in the field who accept CAGW as accepted fact.

    But what about these other guys?

    • I know very good physicists and chemists who believe in AGW.

      They have not done the work, but accept the consensus view as credible and the artful pseudo-science as real science.

      • Belief in climate change is fine IMO. What gets me is people who buy hook, line, and sinker into the extreme climate alarmism, which is impossible to be supported by hard science.

        • Problem is those people are driving social, energy and economic policy that will, and IS, effecting everyone.

          Some people believe the world is flat and yet observations (Solar/Lunar eclipses for instance) prove them wrong.

      • At this point I’d have to think that any hope of continuing employment in the field of Physics or Chemistry would be severely jeopardized if one expressed less than fulsome belief in the ‘Consensus’ ?

    • “The three economists don’t count because they practice
      a discipline more akin to divination than science”

      Economic History is a sound academic subject.
      Economics is crystal ball gazing.

  14. I have a 6 year old niece who is given to foot-stamping, screeching histrionics over her imaginary “deprivations”, just like Greta does.

    We’ve all taken to just ignoring her outbursts, and she quickly get s over them, because some other more urgent “want” comes to the fore.

    Best we all just do this with Greta too.

    (Her parents, handlers and abusers, however, are another matter. Where are the child protection agencies when they’re needed?)

    • At 41 seconds you can see the look down at the table and smile. She knows that she does not have a clue about how to answer. she is as guilty as sin and it is a reaction of a perfectly sane person with no kind of deficit disorder. She does not have any kind of Autism whatsoever. She is also more aware of what she is doing and it is not just “her handlers”
      People are making so many excuses for this woman, not girl, and are being conned because they are so gullible.

  15. First timer – I cannot hold my tongue.
    This threat should be sufficient to prevent any future visa entry into the USA
    I am sure that if I made such a threat the CIA would tag me quick-smart

    • The late Noel Coward, on entry to the USA, was once asked: “Do you intend to overthrow the Government of the United States by force or by subversion?” He replied: “By force”; whereupon he was frogmarched into a side-room (with his arm twisted up his back) for interrogation. He protested that: “You only gave me two choices! I thought I had to pick one!”
      Upper-class English irony was not too well understood by the immigration department then.
      In other words, something was lost in translation.

  16. I am very glad that this hateful and deranged little girl is the loony lefts pin up girl….cause it says it all, doesn’t it? Have you noticed most loony left people look hate filled? Like Greta? Their face will snap to hate as default…hideous. And they are born in crowds, and resemble vermin in behavior and appearance, and smell too probably…
    Give Greta power and you will see what a monster is, and Merkel will be right there beside her.

      • You are right. Ceaucescus were amateurs.
        Greta and her comrades will demolish whole western world to build red Shangrila.

      • You miss rhe point it is GRETA espousing this solution for fossil fuel executives destroying the earth for their palaces..

    • That was a Dramatisation ? The official story is that they were both shot in the back of an APC.

      No doubt it was clear the jig was up on the day the Romanian protests broke out, and the hasty destruction of Nikolai and his Mrs ensured that the ‘Coming Men’ would not be tainted by any evidence produced at a proper trial.

  17. This spoiled brat needs a spanking….. until she stops ranting “How dare you!”, threatening to kill people, and learns a bit of humility for her own ignorance and a heaping helping of respect for others.

  18. Look, I am not Swedish, but I read and speak Swedish (I comprehend and read much better than I speak.) While it is fair to say that there is a more benign use of “ställa något (upp) mot väggen,” even in that particular idiomatic use, it derives from the scenario of aggression, and cornering…aggressively pinning, roughing up, searching, interrogating.
    Swedes, however, sometimes use it much more literally and in the sense and context that Americans do. “Up against the wall”, for execution. this is not an uncommon or rare use, and it would not be lost on any Swede with a normal relationship to language, In Greta the child- parrot’s case, I don’t think anyone should assume she knows exactly what she is saying, but the people around her certainly do, and I am cynical enough to believe that ambiguity was intentional. that might be giving her too much credit for understanding the freight of words that come out of her mouth.

    I will limit to one example, very googleable and Google-translatable, a quote from a contemporary book. Original Swedish above, English below.

    Svenskarna som stred för Hitler: Ett historiskt reportage

    Bosse Schön · 2015

    Bokförlaget Forum, Nov 2, 2015 – 396 pages

    “Organisationen borjan av 1944. I ett polisforhor berätter knut M från Norrkoping, som på 1990 talet forfarande var aktiv Nazist, att Bruna Gardets uppfift var att bekampa kommunismen.
    Att ställa judarna mot väggen var något helt annat än att sparka ut dem ur landet. De skulle skjutas.”

    The Swedes who fought for Hitler: A historical reportage
    Bosse Schön · 2015

    Bokförlaget Forum, Nov 2, 2015 – 396 pages

    “The organization began in 1944. In a police interview, Knut M from Norrkoping, who in the 1990s was still an active Nazi, tells us that Bruna Gardet’s task was to fight communism.
    Putting the Jews against the wall was something quite different from kicking them out of the country. They should be shot.”

  19. “I’m not sure that’s any less insane.”

    I do not believe the meaning is any different.
    “Stand against the wall”, and then gets forced to so something alien to their nature.

    Which directly implies a very limited choice. Do it our way or suffer consequence…

    Molon Labe!

    • World leaders working for a Globalist future only work for their own interests, and to hell to the average man, whom they conside inferior and deplorable! A reckoning is coming!

  20. This 16 yo ignoramus is an unpleasant package. No doubt 2019 has not contributed anything in the way of her geophysical knowledge and has given her zero understanding of the philosophy of science.

    Instead, she manifests a soup of neurological problems, even (as a neurologist ex-colleague of mine points out) accompanied with the classical asymmetric mouth slant of one such ingredient. She is unable and unwilling to field answers to questions, has delusions about “seeing” CO2 and is selectively mute. Of course, she is able to whip herself into a fury of indignation for an audience and it’s unfortunate no one has laughed out loud and long during any such ludicrous performances.

    And what penalties do Swedish education authorities have for wilful truancy? Or has Sweden become a larger version of downtown Malmo?

    • Or has Sweden become a larger version of downtown Malmö?

      Think of Malmö vs Sweden as San Francisco vs California.

      Malmö is just the extrapolation of the sharp division in the population elsewhere. The subject of division is many-fold, such as CAGW and salon communism. Thoughtful middle ground is becoming a rarity, resulting in a polarization so strong and intolerant to each other, that normal peaceful means of rule becomes very difficult.

      Malmö and San Francisco share some some commons. I Malmö there was recently a huge influx of “refugees” with totally different culture, habits and ideals than the traditional Swede.

      put them against the wall

      The phrase can be interpreted in different ways and I see it being no better or worse than many of the statements used on either side of the CAGW issue, used by prominent and high profile persons lately. With Greta’s “accountable” statement, she is rejecting the capital punishment, but still stating severe punishment. Diplomacy is an unknown quality to particular the CAGW believers and adoption to reality is totally out of the question.

      The solution:
      Ban all electrical and fuel power for farming, and let the city slickers work as farm helpers and the horses pull the plows. Suddenly the they will debate next weeks weather, instead of the weather in a hundred years from now. They will beg for the tractors and combine harvesters to come into action again, go back to their factory jobs and enjoy long weekends, comfortable heated/cooled homes and commercial air travel to the Bahamas. Thereafter the CAGW is lost in Limbo.

      • Carl, I would see it as Sweden sharing many of the problems of Malmo. And for the same reasons. Now there are no go districts in Stockholm as a result of the “immigrant problem”. Just as in Malmo. Burnings, looting, destruction and assaults or worse. Who would be surprised if authorities in Malmo didn’t pursue the relatively minor offence of truancy. Now the disease is in the capitol and other regional cities.

  21. David Middleton:

    Did Ray Wylie Hubbard mean the redneck or his mother?

    The lyrics say: “you red-neck mother”. That is what you put in a song to call someone a M.F. before screaming out mother-fuukker in every line became fashionable.

    I hope that helps you understand the words of the song you chose to put up.

  22. Thinking about Greta on “no name” island with others of like kind is a rather pleasant thought for me at times. The flies would most certainly be the lord.

  23. The Greta phenomenon says a great deal about the UN and it’s acolytes; for she is merely expressing the objectives of this organisation. -: Namely to take over the global levers of power with no constraint on the consequences for those who dare to challenge its agenda. It’s arrogance is unbelievable.
    This organisation must be immediately starved of funds and eventually dismantled.
    Voters should now require their governments to be transparent on the funds given to these institutions and called to task through the ballot box.

  24. So she now claims it is just a translation problem. Seems that to put someone “up against the wall” in Swedish doesn’t mean to shoot them. It means to force them.

    So what?? It’s still an appeal to raw threats and force, the liberal staples, and it is still as despicable. She truly thinks if people don’t do what she wants, they should be forced to do it.

    And it is still despicable. She’s a snotty brat who refuses to go to school until the world changes the climate to suit her fantasies … and if we won’t do it, she’s happy to force us.

    w.

    • Bingo! The most innocuous interpretation is that she meant something like “put their backs to the wall”… No less of a threat.

    • Exactly Willis. IF you are putting people “against the wall” to do your will, that implies some means of force (at gunpoint is the commonly used method) to get them to do what you want and some kind of unpleasant consequence (using those guns) if they do not comply. It’s a threat no matter how one tries to sugarcoat it.

  25. Luckily there is say a couple of billion brown and black people who are benefiting from an increase in energy through fossil fuel consumption and are not aware of any of this.

  26. I thought that people got locked up for threatening anyone in the community. Perhaps not if you are of the left and 16 years old.

  27. It is clear that putting against the wall has very aggressive connotations, even reaching the wish of death of someone by execution. But I honestly wouldn’t worry about this crazy little girl, since on some of her multiple trips on luxurious yachts around the world she will end up, naturally by some strong storm at the bottom of the sea. (And I do not wish evil on anyone).

  28. In this particular case Greta is probably innocent and simply not very fluent in English.

    In Swedish, “ställa någon mot väggen” (= put someone against the wall) is an expression that means to force someone to make up their minds or to take action.

    Her controllers were simply careless and had failed to rehearse properly.

    • A quote from SarahW
      December 14, 2019 at 8:31 pm / from up there ^

      ****I will limit to one example, very googleable and Google-translatable, a quote from a contemporary book. Original Swedish above, English below.

      Svenskarna som stred för Hitler: Ett historiskt reportage

      Bosse Schön · 2015

      Bokförlaget Forum, Nov 2, 2015 – 396 pages

      “Organisationen borjan av 1944. I ett polisforhor berätter knut M från Norrkoping, som på 1990 talet forfarande var aktiv Nazist, att Bruna Gardets uppfift var att bekampa kommunismen.
      Att ställa judarna mot väggen var något helt annat än att sparka ut dem ur landet. De skulle skjutas.”

      The Swedes who fought for Hitler: A historical reportage
      Bosse Schön · 2015

      Bokförlaget Forum, Nov 2, 2015 – 396 pages

      “The organization began in 1944. In a police interview, Knut M from Norrkoping, who in the 1990s was still an active Nazi, tells us that Bruna Gardet’s task was to fight communism.
      Putting the Jews against the wall was something quite different from kicking them out of the country. They should be shot.” ****

      That is the meaning of “ställa någon mot väggen”.

    • I think the more appropriate equivalent of “force someone to make up their minds or to take action” is an American expression which, in Swedish for Greta’s greater good, is “Skit eller gå ur potten”

  29. Whenever I hear “up against the wall” I mentally add “bop, bop, bop” and think of Wolfie Smith in the BBC’s Citizen Smith the incompetent revolutionary. A young Corbyn.

    • “Ben Vorlich December 15, 2019 at 2:33 am

      Wolfie Smith in the BBC’s Citizen Smith the incompetent revolutionary.”

      Crikey, going back there! I recall those comedies. All in the era of 1980’s “Thatcher”. Rick Mayall as “Rick” in “The Young Ones”, impoverished student, anti-capitalist, anti-Thatcher. Then “Alan B’stard”. Made a shedload of money. He was talented.

  30. Greta is gonna take a holiday? Perhaps her handlers are pulling her back for more indoctrination, or maybe they’re concerned for her safety after she threatened world leaders, then tried, unsuccessfully, to explain it away.

    Also, Greta is nothing more than a spider puppet in human form, a spider that spins a dream-destroying web of dread and loathing in ungrateful young people toward a world chock full of gifts their predecessors have handed them.

  31. Maybe if she didn’t skip so many school lessons she would have realised what she was saying.

    Or…

    She is actually a manifestation of evil. Make your own decision.

  32. I don’t like Greta, but:
    Greta Thunberg apologizes after saying politicians should be put “against the wall”
    “Yesterday I said we must hold our leaders accountable and unfortunately said “put them against the wall”. That’s Swenglish: “att ställa någon mot väggen” (to put someone against the wall) means to hold someone accountable,
    https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/474608-greta-thunberg-apologizes-after-saying-politicians-should-be?rnd=1576377470

  33. The yellow plastic raincoat will be useful in protecting the wearer from the blood of the planetary criminals, come the day, and as it becomes a reddish colour. 🙂

    Greta and her immediate handlers (family) seem to be unaware that the media will inevitably build up the likes of herself with the express purpose of burning them down when the entertainment factor of the primary message declines ? I’d have to think she has maybe reached her apogee of value in the building up phase, and we’re witnessing the start of the tearing down phase. If so, and assuming the naivete of her enablers is correct, we can expect much more entertainment as the Greta Phenomenon lashes out in its decline.

    To paraphrase the film words, ‘I’m going to need a bigger spoon’ 🙂

  34. Greta Thunberg is a spoiled brat. Her parents have turned her into this obnoxious teen troll. She can’t answer complicated questions, not because she has some sort of neurological disorder, but rather because she doesn’t HAVE any answers. She is all rhetoric with no substance, all show and no “go”. She’s a school dropout, remember? When some ignorant, uneducated teen gets away with public tantrums – and she’s had several of them – it’s a front for something else.

    I’m waiting to see what happens next. She made a veiled threat. Who is supposed to execute it for her?

  35. Finn please ask your your ex-colleague what he makes of Greta’s excessively dilated pupils in her “How dare you speech”. It may because of stress but certain drugs cause pupil dilation.

    • Sorry for late reply, Lacustris. I’ll do that but it may be in another future thread. Just for the record and one example, compare the MH370 captain with Miss Hysterical.

  36. Anything to stoke the hatred the skeptics have and the conspiratorial attitude about CAGW. Seriously, you can’t just let a child explain? Of course not. NEVER, NEVER, NEVER. You have to hate on anyone who disagrees with you. Flog “em, throw “em in a dungeon. Where have I seen that before….Wait…..let me think……

    Back to reading Alex Jones for a continuation of the conspiracy ideology.

  37. I’m not really bothered by her saying this (she’s a teenager & I’ll ignore it). However, she was prb’ly scripted to say this by her adult handlers.

  38. In Scandinavian languages it usually means to corner somebody in a discussion in the sense that the person runs out of arguments or excuses. i.e. there is no longer an escape or a way to dodge the question. I am pretty sure that the execution connotations were unintended.

  39. Greta the great boxcar hobo

    https://apnews.com/cb108a073804157dcff8e5668cdd25d8

    and her antifa hippie parents wants this for the rest of us.

    What about their childhood, Greta?

    THE BOXCAR BOYS AND GIRLS

    The story of 250,000 teenagers on the road in the Great Depression is one of the vital sagas of America in the 1930s. These archives derive from 3,000 letters written by men and women who rode the rails between 1929 and 1941; follow-up questionnaires and interviews complete a rare first-hand account of Americans living through one of this nation’s bleakest eras.

    https://erroluys.com/greatdepressionarchive10.html

  40. I still don’t understand why anybody is paying attention to this 16 year old ignoramus. Einstein was correct: human stupidity is infinite.

  41. Her handlers are communists. And to have Communism you need to have a revolution. And to have a revolution you need to agitate. That is what’s most likely happening here.

  42. Greta just says what her handlers tell her to say. She has only a general science education and has yet to enter tenth grade so she if 4 years away from finishing high school let alone start college.

  43. A Freudian slip at best but judging from a best-off from Greta so far, I would not be surprised. She thinks there are too many people on Earth anyhow so she might have a way to start tackling this. I am not concerned but I am not really surprised either.

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