74 thoughts on “Craig Kelly MP on COP25

    • What we really need is for the world media to promote people like Mr.Kelly for at least telling the other side of the story .
      Seems like this is not gonna happen any time soon .

    • All the things that are listed as “climate related deaths” are just weather. That’s part of the problem.

    • A year ago I sent Craig Kelly a note of support for his views on CAGW. I was somewhat surprised that he responded personally:

      Thanks Rick,

      The lessons from history teach us appeasement never works.

      If we stay silent and don’t argue the facts – for fear of upsetting those that will never vote for us – we will get slaughtered at the election, and it will make coming back even harder.

      Thanks for sending this.

      Regards,
      Craig

      First time I have had a personal reply from any member of parliament on any topic. I have had automated responses but only one has taken the time to make a thoughtful response. I am not in his electorate or even State. I believe politicians who are willing to stand up to present facts are worth strong support and encouragement.

  1. Watched this yesterday, hilarious stupidity of the UN Climate-Corpse™ band of lying clowns.

    “… Ask yourself in this situation, has your country really payed enough money to the UN this year? … ”

    – UN Secretary-General, António Guterres, Dec 9th, 2019.

    /blink

  2. Come on Aussie Government, come on!

    Why does our Federal Government linger with the trendy inner-city green latte set, hoping for a few votes, when the stark reality of what is being measured in the world shows that there has been no significant harm so far from climate change? And that it is unlikely to become harmful in the next half century, beyond which it is hazardous to guess?

    Credit to those in the main video clip, esp. Craig Kelly MP.

    Would just one more media group study the UN speech like Craig has and be strong enough to raise similar criticisms? For there is no escape from them.
    Geoff S from Australia

  3. Very relevant to Kelly’s discussion of the socialist UN General’s lies about damage from climate disasters is a video that Tony Heller put out today, where he dramatically described the incredible climate disasters that befell much of the US in 1913. Further, he gives the newspaper account: “on July 3rd [1913] it was 102° in Chicago, and dozens died in the heat.” Further still, Heller makes the point that the hottest day ever on the planet was recorded in that year, 1913.

    After watching that Heller video I’m now convinced that there has been climate change since 1913. But the change in climate has been .. FOR THE BETTER! Yeah, not only did we have more hurricanes and storms in the past, we had much greater levels of death and destruction! It’s just insane the bullsh|t that the Secretary General and the other climate socialists are shoveling out!

    Further, arguably it was hotter then, in 1913. Heller has scores of videos documenting the number of deaths from heat in the early 20th century. Is it just a coincidence that that’s when the hottest recorded temperature on earth was recorded, when all those people were dying of heat?

    Certainly, if we really had a century of runaway hockey stick warming which the manipulated temperature data show, then that 1913 record would have been broken, over and over again. But no, that 1913 record stands! For good reason. It was hotter then. And stormier.

    • The Team is trying to get the 1913 Death Valley record high invalidated, as it did with the previous 1922 Libya temperature record. State records are also under attack.

    • Wait a while Eric Simpson,
      Those ‘errant’ temps from the early and mid 1900’s will soon be ‘modified’ to show constant warming from plant food.
      Have you not heard of 1984 and newspeak?.
      Eric Blair (George Orwell) was a prophet.

    • “where he dramatically described the incredible climate disasters”

      What is a climate disaster?

      Come on, don’t start using their idiotic terminology.

    • If you can get the climate models to erase the vastly warmer and colder records then they can also erase the State and National records. We live in truly scary times. Colorado just reported a record high in 2019 when no temperature stations nearby were within 5 degrees of that single station. A station that is sighted next to a busy parking lot of a tourist attraction. Can we assume air conditioners running as a potential cause for this anomalous temp reading? Apparently not.

    • Here’s a link. It’s eight minutes of the program Outsiders. Kelly’s segment starts at 1:40.

      In this segment, Kelly points out three lies in the first sentence or so of the opening speech at COP25.

      Guterres – “Climate related disasters are becoming more frequent, more deadly, more destructive with growing human and financial costs.”

      1 – Climate related disasters are 98% less deadly now than they were a century ago. That’s because fossil fuels make us a lot more resilient.

      2 – Dr. Pielke Jr. points out that disasters aren’t becoming more frequent.

      3 – As a percent of GDP, climate related disasters are becoming less expensive.

      The first point is amazing. In spite of the world’s growing population, climate related disasters only claim 2% as many victims as they did a century ago.

      • Bob,
        Many thanks for the link. As many people as possible should see it.
        It shows the head of the UN telling blatant and completely provable lies. In just a few minutes Kelly proves these lies with the basic data. What Guterres and all the other doom mongers are doing is beneath contempt.

        As one of the reasons for these lies is financial gain then it’s also financial fraud. I hope to see this man behind bars where he belongs. But I’m not holding my breath….
        Chris

        • ” What Guterres and all the other doom mongers are doing is beneath contempt.”

          Exactly right! It’s criminal, imo.

      • “Dr. Pielke Jr. points out that disasters aren’t becoming more frequent.”

        Yet he still thinks CO2 rise is a serious problem that should be mitigated. SMH.

    • I have downloaded the video. Am I allowed to upload it to Youtube?
      Or is this against copyright laws?

      • I doubt the owner would complain,having said that a YT channel had all its content removed on Friday night

        The channels name was “Wales grand solar minimum ” 700 odd videos removed documenting cold events videos of scientists who dont agree with AGW.

        If I had a YT channel I would upload the video the more people who see it outweighs any restrictions they MIGHT impose.

      • Not sure it is allowed in Europe, so use my link above. I had the same problem from Sweden and had to use proxy server/Tor browser.
        The UN and Democratic Republic Of Europe is getting more and more desperate.

      • I’ve no idea. All I know is that you won’t find me within a million miles of these poisonous entities.
        Chris

    • I saw that on FTA Win on Sunday evening (a shorter Outsiders Encore). It is only available FTA in rural Australia; channels 83 or 84. A basic subscription to Foxtel would give access also.

  4. The graph is missing the deaths caused by Global Warming Policies.

    older poorer people having to choose between heating and eating
    Forest undergrowth due to lack of back burning and overgrown fire trails
    ……

  5. As I was watching this, all I could think was “I wish I could convince my brothers to watch this”. I already know all these facts, and even if I didn’t I wouldn’t go to the UN to get my data. The sad reality is that the only people who are exposed to this kind of excellent reporting are people who already know it.
    This is the real tragedy of our times and it appears that only economic impacts, which ironically is how the CAGW alarmists are trying to sway people, will cause people to resist the overarching imperial designs of the UN/Alarmist cabal.
    Thanks for posting this. I sometimes get accidentally exposed to CNN and other brainwashing outlets and become despondent over the future of our species. This video is like a morning after pill or emergency antiretroviral capsule.

      • Megs

        Mr clark is exposing the lies told by the u.n. The u.n has constantly lied about global warming, sorry I meant climate change or is it climate emergency, “we are all going to die” unless we get 28 billion dollars” ASAP because we had to close our diplomatic Bar at 5pm, or maybe because the vile u.n staff FLY first class everywhere 😐

    • Kelly is exposing the lies

      That’s my wisdom , dont be so sarcastic and read twice before you answer

      • Sorry B d, my bad.

        As I said to Sonny it’s the second time I’ve spoken out of place and I don’t mind being pulled up on it.

        I’ve been up against some of our ‘more challenging’ contributors these past few days, I didn’t mean to come across as sarcastic, I just took it the wrong way.

  6. This Craig Kelly MP has the smarts and the stones to tell it like it is. My personal experience with the United Nations left me wondering why we continue to fund this train wreck. Maybe the UN was initially founded under good intentions, but remember what they say: The road to hell is paved with other peoples money, or something like that.

  7. Dear Liberal Party of Australia,

    more Craig Kelly

    less Turnbullites.

  8. This is available for all to read on the Internet the IPCC bury this deep in their reports, but it is there if you have the patience.

    I can only assume Greta and her like cannot read. Most of the member governments of the UN are basically gangsters, I have travelled widely in this world and know who these people are, if you challenge them you need a few brave armed men behind you and it is not going to be pretty!

    https://ourworldindata.org/natural-disasters#number-of-deaths-from-natural-disasters

  9. About 7 mins 45 secs into the video the woman says, “What I don’t understand is why don’t we have anybody in the media who’s got the guts to call out this nonsense”. Naive but true.

    People like Guterres know they are safe to say whatever they like knowing that it will go unchallenged in the MSM.

    Whoever owns the camera and the mic owns the agenda.

    • True enough. People may remember this:

      I am paying for this microphone, Mr. Green!
      -Ronald Reagan

  10. That is one powerful video, hats off to both Mr Kelly and to Sky for broadcasting it.
    If only we had other outlets that would do the same in every major country.

  11. Craig Kelly, my husband and I spoke to you briefly at a conference in Sydney some months ago. We have been trying to get our concerns about the rollout of wind and solar, to the attention of politicians and media, consistently since then without response.

    I’m guessing that you are aware that they are planning to declare the Central West of NSW a ‘Renewable Energy Zone’ (wind turbines and solar panels). The first of three zones in NSW. They are trying to talk it up to communities but what it boils down to is that it’s the cheapest option for the developers (and the government?) because there is some existing infrastructure in place (substations and such) because most of the coal mines are out here. And we don’t have a choice. They think we’re idiots.

    I have done significant research since we spoke to you and I am quite distressed that Scott Morrison is pushing forward with wind and solar. Dispite the fact that Australia’s population is little more than 25 million, this ‘renewables investment’ will not change Australia’s, and certainly not global climate in any way! Our population is not large enough to make a difference! It’s simply virtue signalling, except that we’re (the suckers in the country) the ones confronted by it!

    We feel like we are being sh@t on. Benefits to the community Paul, what a joke. Beryl Solar Farm is less than five kilometres from our beautiful historic town, first established in the ‘gold rush.’
    A heritage listed town, famous not only for the gold rush era but for Henry Lawson, Ned Kelly and stories of other Australian larrikens. We have more than a hundred historic buildings including an opera house at which the famous Dame Nelly Melba sang. The opera house is still used today and most recently (this year) The Welsh Choir sang here. The town itself is a major tourist destination and is not to far from Mudgee. Mudgee is a wonderful wine region and also a gorgeous town and tourist area.

    Beryl Solar Farm was built pretty much under the radar. Locals knew little about it. The plant is 87mw and covers 310 hectares (over two waterways). It took approximately 8 months to complete. As you know, we don’t manufacture wind or solar power infrastructure here in Australia. So no jobs there. The build was fairly short-term, who’s going to give up a job they already have, for a short term job? No jobs there. The jobs in fact went to backpackers, that came with it’s own set of problems. We did not benefit it any way in regards to power, it all went to Sydney.

    Beryl was done and dusted, we couldn’t change anything, so we thought, we’ve done our bit, they’ll leave us alone. After all Beryl was the second largest solar farm in NSW at the time.

    We found out recently that there is potentially a further 1400hectares of panels in the pipeline, all less than 5 kilometers from our town. The only reason we found out about this is that a small one, 16 hectares, would be less than 600meters from the town (they had to notify the community). It would be across the road from the town water treatment plant and be part of a lagoon that forms there during heavy rain. Yes it does rain here, I have photos of the lagoon (which lasts for months) from 2010 and 2016 with waterbirds, including nesting black swans.

    Fire is a huge concern for us. In the dry (a good part of the time) grass fires are a real danger. The fires at Dunedoo in 2017 caused significant damage, loss of property and stock. We are at a high elevation and the winds are fierce.

    Do you know the dangers of a solar farm fire? We spoke to a fireman about it, he said, we’d let it burn. He said that they could only try to contain a perimeter fire. How do you contain a perimeter fire, containing an area of more than 1200 hectares? A fire that brings you close to a town that has a population of 2700 people and has history dating back to the 1870’s? We do have a small fire brigade, and Mudgee is only thirty kilometers away. Fires move fast here, let’s face it we wouldn’t have a chance. On that note, we were told a year ago that our entire region was to be declared ‘fire
    prone’. We were told that this was imminent. It hasn’t happened, I wonder if this would cause problems for the development?

    Did you know that hail and fire damaged solar panels can leach elements like cadmium and lead into the soil and waterways? Victoria has declared them E-waste, they cannot be dumped in landfill there. I’ve done other research on this but it’s already unlikely this very long comment will go through.

    Did you know that there is no recycling currently operating anywhere in Australia? Just one company stockpiling at this stage. There is in fact little recycling anywhere in the world.

    Did you know about the massive ecological damage done in China? Villagers and their families and stock are suffering with the unimaginable amounts of toxic waste ending up in their waterways. This is due to the mining of rare earth materials. The processing uses acids and other toxic chemicals.

    Have you considered the amount of CO2 added to the atmosphere (if you believe CO2 is a problem) unnecessarily in the mining, processing, manufacturing and transport of wind turbines and solar panels? Including the shipping and transport to their destinations. They all require fossil fuels!

    It’s a joke Paul, we aren’t so much the ‘quite Australians’, we’ve been gagged.

    Voting is compulsory in Australia, almost all of my votes were conservative, (except for Hawkey). I have never voted informal in the past but next time around may be a first. When choice is taken from us, we are already in a totalitarian regime. What have I got to gain?

    • and I see theyre putting another huge one in at Whyalla thatll boost the UHI effect rather bigly
      of course a dust storm or 3 might affect it too
      and yes re your areas if they burn then the toxic smoke will be at “unprecedented” damage levels and thatd mean rainwater and that river they placed em near(need the water for washing them?) will be heavily polluted

      what we NEED is a few turbines to start a fire or two and ditto the pv setups
      cruel I know, BUT it might just wake the sheeple up a bit.
      cos nothing else will it seems

    • Recycling is still operating here, in the US, but the bloom is off the rose. It turns out that it isn’t the panacea once thought. Recycling plastic has become a huge problem, due to contamination, and that there are so many kinds, some recyclable, some not. Even glass is a problem for similar reasons. With some exceptions like aluminum, the costs of recycling can easily exceed the value of the material, even adding in the decreased cost of trash disposal.

  12. My heart leaped for a moment when I thought Craig Kelly might be a member of the UK Parliament.
    Alas, this good man only serves in Australia. But, on the other hand, it does seem that their need is probably even greater than ours at the moment, though we are about to have an election.

  13. Some of the comments made me start thinking about US temperature records. So I did a bit of research by state. Only 2 US states have recorded their all time high temperature readings this century. But the decade of the 1930s saw 24 US states establish all time temperature records. Now I can see why they dropped the “Global Warming” label. It appears half the US states were warmer 85 years ago.

  14. It isn’t enough to enumerate the lies one by one because usually, the lies are constructs; lies built upon more lies. You have to peel them back, like an onion. The phrase “climate-related disasters” is itself a lie, as there is no such thing. They made it up out of whole cloth. It is part of their attempt to muddy the waters, and confuse and conflate weather with climate. They need to do that to get the rubes and the sheeple onboard the cacophonous cackling climate crusade choo-choo.

    • You’re quite right
      A weather-related disaster might occur over a night or a week.

      By definition, a climate-related disaster should happen over the course of 30 years or a whole lifetime. Which really means that climate-related disasters simply don’t happen any more because human adaptation is now so much faster than climate change ever is.

  15. every bloody day the abc here runs the same sort of utter lies and theyre never ever queried at all
    neither is any supporting data placed on their site in support
    its even worse with Holdren oreskes and flimflam steffen and the rest
    theyre fawned over given leadin q’s to set em up and they just lie lie and lie more and theres no way to get any of it corrected or even comment now unless you fkbook and even then..censorships hefty

    the entire page above for me is just a title header and then whatever wordpress ad in their lineup
    zero zip nada else shows
    maybe cos its fkbk and I wont allow it onto my pc? or into my life at all

  16. From The Guardian.

    “UN climate talks failing to address urgency of crisis, says top scientist”

    “COP25 in Madrid criticised for focusing on details instead of agreeing deep cuts to emissions”

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/dec/08/un-climate-talks-are-failing-to-see-urgency-of-crisis-says-scientist

    The top scientist in question is Johan Rockström, joint director of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research.

    Johan Rockström studied at the Swedish University of Agricultural Sciences 1987-91 and one year, 1997, at Stockholm University.

    Somehow, this makes him a top scientist.

    • The “climate talks” are failing, period. They are a total joke. But as usual, when the charade is over, the spin factory will go to work, hailing it a “success”, yet “much more work needs to be done”. Like clockwork.

  17. First point: Craig Kelley is to be congratulated with applauds reaching all around the globe. With “three lies in a sentence” in his opening speech at the COP25 conference in Madrid, António Guterres, UN Secretary-General, must resign. We cannot allow a liar at the highest post in UN. People in all countries – we need to unify and force Guterres to resign.

    Second point: With respect to sea level changes (4th point discussed) I completely agree with the comments given. There is no real threat of a global flooding in the near future. This is just scaremongering without a base in observational facts. Not on a single point on the whole globe have we recorded any increase (acceleration) in sea level rise.

  18. Once upon a time people believed the world was flat, the earth was the centre of the universe, slavery was OK, women should not vote and there was such a thing as a pure human race. Despite what some people believe, understanding the science explains reality and evidence shows climate change is a fact, has happened before and is happening now for the same reasons. Denial, based on belief Vs understanding basic science and evidence, want us to repeat a very dangerous experiment that puts life as we know it on this plant at extreme risk. I don’t want that for my grandchildren!

    • You are ignorant Simon, you are too lazy to do any research and you seem happy to believe the propaganda. That’s all it is Simon, pure propaganda. The science was never settled. It’s about money, moving it around and in the end the third world countries never benefit, and nor do we.

      Wind and solar energy are an ecological disaster, they actually add to the CO2, assuming that’s what you think the problem is, by their very creation. But that’s not even the worst of it. Ask some questions for yourself. Were do the materials come from to create turbines and solar panels? What are the processes to extract the rare earth materials? How are ‘fossil fuels’ used in all the different transport between processes, including shipping?

      Are they being recycled? I’ll give you a hint here, in Australia, no they are not. Are solar panels dangerous when damaged? Another hint, Victoria has deemed them PV waste and it’s against the law to dump them in landfill. Whoops, guess where they going in the other states! The risk is cadmium and lead being leached into the soil and waterways. Gee, I wonder what happens after a hailstorm over that solar farm? Not your problem I’m guessing.

      You are being lied to but worse than that you are willing to roll over and take it. If you are seriously concerned for your grandchildren’s future then get off your backside and do some research. If you follow WUWT, and not just scoff after one visit because that’s what your friends do, you will learn from the many scientists who frequent the posts, you would have the opportunity to ask questions and actually learn something. You get to correspond with actual scientists here, not the the mystical ‘science is settled’ scientists who are paid to stick to the story.

      Do you really even want to know?

      Think of the grandchildren Simon.

  19. Craig Kelly was correct drawing attention to deaths caused by indoor air pollution in the Third World due to lack of cheap reliable electricity, however Guterres’ crafty conflation “air pollution associated with climate change” is the fundamental lie that is perpetuated and ought to be condemned whenever it is made.
    Whatever the phrase ‘climate change’ means, it has nothing to do with air pollution.

  20. This is a superb comment by Mr Kelly. Would it be possible for someone to put up a link to the disaster data and also the insurance data and combine it with the Kelly link from Commiebob-
    commieBob
    December 9, 2019 at 2:00 am
    Here’s a link. It’s eight minutes of the program Outsiders. Kelly’s segment starts at 1:40.

    • Keeps being disappeared elsewhere?

      Yes, there’s nothing showing on my FF browser at WUWT, tho your dropbox shows it.

  21. Do note,
    The Liberal party (nominal conservative CINO ) in Australia put more energy in to disendorsing patriots and conservatives like Craig Kelly than attacking the left. The party itself has been infiltrated by traitors since the Whitlam era. Now, it holds a majority of left factions within the nominally conservative party.

    The 2 PP system dictates that a vote is only formal if you preference Liberal or (nearly Communist) Labor. This means that an alternative 3rd party must get 50% + 1 to gain government. Do you see One Nation getting 50% of the vote??? This is highly unlikely. Effectively, we have a ONE PARTY STATE since the 2 major parties that have legislated themselves are almost the same. Such a political monopoly is not a good thing.

    The solution is that ALL PATRIOTS must be part of the political process. My sources in the Liberal Party reckon it requires around 1,000 new people in the right branches in NSW to swing the delegate vote away from the termites that have infested the party.

    Although I am in a different political party (when the time comes, the reasons will become apparent why) I encourage people to join the Liberal Party branches in NSW in particular, although Victoria is being subverted too. It helps that I have the connections who know which branches need help.

    The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. The price of freedom could be as little as $99 per year membership fees and turning up to vote at the 2 delegate votes per year. The delicious irony is that if the Liberal party dumps the climate bovine excrement, people will save far more than $99 per year-probably $99 per quarter. What a superb return on investment! 400% return!

    Take home message is this-unless you have esoteric political plans, join the Liberal party to swing it back from the liberal traitors . This is the price of freedom. Freedom is the responsibility of the People. Remember the words of Plato-“One of the pitfalls of being too clever for politics is that you find yourself being ruled by your inferiors.” We are being run by traitors and fools at present. They do not remember the lessons of history- traitors to the tribe-the lowest of the low inevitably come to a very sticky end. The new regime will not honour the promises of money and power. Besides, the People that have been betrayed will be only too happy to see the traitors dealt with without prejudice.

    Certainly, any patriots in Craig’s electorate of Hughes should be joining their local branches to support Craig retaining endorsement. The potential usurper is a former Labor councilor from the left faction. If you live in his electorate or have friends in his electorate, it is time to do your patriotic duty.

    It is (enlightened) patriots like us that must lead the charge. Don’t let the stupid sheep out there destroy things for all of us. WE must support candidates like Craig Kelly, otherwise we are likely to have that “Climate Emergency” declared which is effectively marshal law to combat the confected existential threat.

    Come on Patriots, you know what to do.

    • “… This means that an alternative 3rd party must get 50% + 1 to gain government. Do you see One Nation getting 50% of the vote??? This is highly unlikely. …”

      That’s one big fat red-herring you’ve got frying there.

      One-Nation does not need to win 50% of the vote, actually ~38% of the vote will get you a majority govt in Aust Federal elections with the current system.

      If One-Nation merely holds the balance-of-power over Govt legislation passing, and also revokation, they can force the Lib/Nats to not behave like such feckless Center-Left fake-conservative door-mats. In fact, One-Nation did this again just last week, they made the difference in the ability to revoke the dysfunctional ‘Medi-Cal’ legislation foisted on the country by Greens and Labor.

      The problem with the Libs is they are full of talk and mostly rah-rah stuff, and almost nothing that actually helps people with daily life, i.e. why they even bother to vote. On the contrary, the libs are more interested in protecting known crooks in the banking-sector, above anything else, and the NATs just go-along to get along. I’m impressed with Craig Kelly, but his party is generally not interested in acting on verifiable truth and testable facts.

      I’ve not voted since 2010. Though if I do decide to vote again, it would only be to increase the numbers of One-Nation seats in Federal and State Parliaments because voting for more LIB/NAT seats is guaranteed to produce more of the same avoidance of acting on verifiable truth and testable fact or in ways useful or beneficial to regular voters, who are clearly incidental to the Liberal Party agenda.

      Despite Craig Kelly being in there and calling a spade a spade, his party’s Supreme-Leader and Cabinet are deaf in one ear and can’t hear out of the other.

      As for joining the NSW Liberal Party, all I have to say to that is “Gladys Berejiklian” is a rolled-gold example of why the NSW Liberal Party should be thoroughly spanked by One-Nation votes.

      https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/sep/16/anti-abortion-nsw-liberal-mps-to-move-spill-motion-against-gladys-berejiklian

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