Claim: Delaying Climate Action Could Threaten Democracy

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Guest essay by Eric Worrall

According to University of Copenhagen professor Ole Wæver, if we don’t act soon the UN Security Council might have to take over and dictate climate policy to member states, just as the EU took control of Greece.

Could climate change become a security issue — and threaten democracy?

RN By Farz Edraki and Ann Arnold for Late Night Live

Action to address climate change has been left so late that any political response will likely become an international security issue — and could threaten democracy

That’s the view of Ole Wæver, a prominent international relations professor at the University of Copenhagen, who also says climate inaction could lead to armed conflict.

When decision-makers — after delaying for so long — suddenly try to find a shortcut to realistic action, climate change is likely to “be securitised”.

Professor Wæver, who first coined the term “securitisation”, says more abrupt change could potentially threaten democracy.

The United Nations Security Council could, in principle, tomorrow decide that climate change is a threat to international peace and security,” he says.

“And then it’s within their competencies to decide ‘and you are doing this, you are doing this, you are doing this, this is how we deal with it’.”

“If there was something that was decided internationally by some more centralised procedure and every country was told ‘this is your emission target, it’s not negotiable, we can actually take military measures if you don’t fulfil it, then you would basically have to get that down the throat of your population, whether they like it or not,” he says.

“A bit like what we saw in southern Europe with countries like Greece and the debt crisis and so on.

“There were decisions that were made for them and then they just had to have a more or less technocratic government and get it through.”

Read more: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-03/climate-change-international-security-risk/11714284

Be good children, and follow the instructions of the climate professors, otherwise the United Nations is going to take your freedom away.

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nw sage
December 3, 2019 6:28 pm

Just say NO! ?

Charles Higley
Reply to  nw sage
December 3, 2019 7:48 pm

We do not let the UN have it’s own independently funded military for the exact reason that it thus cannot rule the world with it’s own might. The author is in the mind that the UN is a world government, which is thankfully is not.

Bryan A
Reply to  Charles Higley
December 3, 2019 8:57 pm

Climate Change will not spell the end of Democracy, but U.N. proposed Climate Action most certainly will

commieBob
Reply to  Charles Higley
December 4, 2019 12:40 am

The UN is gutless. It has failed to take action to prevent genocide. Bosnia and Rwanda come to mind. The idea that the UN will take military action to enforce CAGW orthodoxy is risible.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  commieBob
December 4, 2019 5:08 am

yeah mate
but,,
theres MONEY and power in enforcing the warmist agenda
there wasnt any in bosnia etc

Gerry, England
Reply to  commieBob
December 4, 2019 5:41 am

Especially true as the UN has to borrow its soldiers from the member nations. And is he really suggesting that the borrowed troops will actually turn their weapons on the public?

Darrin
Reply to  Gerry, England
December 4, 2019 7:59 am

Put the UN in charge or world government, drop Chinese/Russian troops on US soil and tell them to enforce UN rule at the point of a gun. Do you think those soldiers would use force against the citizens when ordered to do so? They wouldn’t be so stupid as to ask local soldiers to enforce locally. They’ll haul in soldiers from other countries, most likely a country that has traditionally stood against they country they are enforcing in.

KcTaz
Reply to  Gerry, England
December 5, 2019 3:40 pm

I am sure Cuba and China would be more than happy to invade the US. I am also more than sure they would regret it. It could start a lovely Civil War, though, with the stupid Alarmists on their side and I doubt that would be good for the climate, not to mention a nuclear war.
These people are frightening and stupid which is a lousy combination.
I rather think they are desperate to get and iron-clad grip on the world before we all start freezing from the Grand Solar Minimum and their con game is toast.

Roger Knights
Reply to  nw sage
December 4, 2019 2:37 pm

Rusia recently said NYET. (It revoked CO2 monitoring measures after business objected.)

Dudley Horscroft
December 3, 2019 6:29 pm

This is a maniacal proposal. There are many agreements negotiated under UN auspices, but they are done by agreement of the member states. The one I am most familiar with, the International Maritime Organization, received proposals from member states, which are then discussed at the specialist committees, and most likely are sent out again to the member states with the comments and updated proposals. Only where there is general agreement are changes made to the International Conventions on Safety of Life at Sea, or on Marine Pollution (SOLAS and MARPOL).

I do not think that there is anything in the UN Charter that could support such a policy and certainly, even should the General Assembly pass one, it would be vetoed by at least four if not five members of the security Council.

John McClure
Reply to  Dudley Horscroft
December 4, 2019 7:09 am

Exactly!

The Professor is blowing smoke.

KcTaz
Reply to  John McClure
December 5, 2019 3:27 pm

The Danes did not fight Hitler but they are going to support military action against their neighbors and the US and China and India et al?

Of course, they might be thinking of enlisting the help of China since they’ve been so wonderful at curbing CO2 emissions not to mention real pollutants. Hahahaha.
China does do that military and dictatorship thing well, though. Perhaps, the dear Professor is banking on them?
It’s nice these goons keep showing their true colors.

KcTaz
Reply to  John McClure
December 5, 2019 3:34 pm

“That’s the view of Ole Wæver, a prominent international relations professor at the University of Copenhagen, who also says climate inaction could lead to armed conflict.”

I do think the dear Professor needs to have his credentials stripped from him if this is his idiotic idea of how international relations should work.
What are they smoking in Denmark?

Johann Wundersamer
Reply to  John McClure
December 9, 2019 10:30 pm

KcTaz December 5, 2019 at 3:34 pm

“That’s the view of Ole Wæver, a prominent international relations professor at the University of Copenhagen, who also says climate inaction could lead to armed conflict.”

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What are they smoking in Denmark?
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RCA
December 3, 2019 6:33 pm

this would explain the incessant organized clamor for disarming the population here in the US.

December 3, 2019 6:36 pm

Ernest Stavro Blofeld, aka Ole Waever, wants to subjugate us for our own good. At least Americans have their second amendment as protection against malevolent megalomaniacs and mad dictators.

December 3, 2019 6:42 pm

we can actually take military measures if you don’t fulfil it

The UN exerting military pressure on the US?

That’s got to be the most idiotic idea, ever.

LdB
Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 3, 2019 11:38 pm

Even then you still have to get the other 10 permanent security members to go along, remember even 1 vote is a veto. So what is the other part of the plan replace Xi and Putin with puppets?

Chance of this trash ever happening 0.00%

Sheri
Reply to  LdB
December 4, 2019 4:28 am

Chance of Xi taking over under the climate change lie are pretty good however. He can claim he’s protecting his people while breaking all the rules. It works very well for everything else. Plus, the Chinese are building all over the world, hold a huge amount of the production of goods as their economy booms. Climate change is a great excuse to annihilate the enemy. After all, they signed on to agreements and ignored the agreement completely. No one blinked. That would indicate stupidity will be in their favor on this.

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  Sheri
December 4, 2019 5:37 am

This. 👍🏼

Soldier Lank
Reply to  Pat Frank
December 3, 2019 7:17 pm

WWIII?… the climate war.
I suspect this will be Europe vs China as the latter will not stop burning oil, coal and gas. It will be very one-sided as the European armed forces will have armored vehicles plated with solar panels and an air force dominated by gliders.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Pat Frank
December 4, 2019 12:39 am

“Pat Frank December 3, 2019 at 6:42 pm

The UN exerting military pressure on the US?”

Crazy! Think NATO too, who is the biggest military contributor to NATO (OTAN in Belgium)? How many predominantly US maned bases on, or close to, the border of Russia in eastern Europe?

Reply to  Patrick MJD
December 4, 2019 1:16 am

Actually I thought OTAN was a sop to France, historically only a political member of NATO, thank goodness. Why we allowed it to be painted on our kit I will never know. Belgium was, and is, only a very minor partner and most speak a bastardisation of Dutch (talk about a split personality). Although it could have been a sop to the pseudo-French, in Canada 😂

Patrick MJD
Reply to  AngryScotonFraggleRock
December 4, 2019 2:17 am

“AngryScotonFraggleRock December 4, 2019 at 1:16 am

Belgium was, and is, only a very minor partner and most speak a bastardisation of Dutch (talk about a split personality).

That would be Flemish.

Curious George
Reply to  Pat Frank
December 4, 2019 8:17 am

A good war does wonders for climate.

DocSiders
Reply to  Pat Frank
December 4, 2019 9:09 am

Did I miss Ole’s threat to force China, by any means, to curb their rapidly growing CO2 emissions?

Reports of Chinese decreasing emissions are typical leftist lying propagands…which Mike Bloomberg has been parroting.

John the Econ
December 3, 2019 6:47 pm

“Vote for fascism or else we’ll have to impose fascism.”

Scissor
Reply to  John the Econ
December 3, 2019 7:04 pm

Great choice, but do we get free tampons?

MarkW
Reply to  Scissor
December 3, 2019 7:28 pm

Only the men

Richmond
Reply to  MarkW
December 3, 2019 8:15 pm

“A” – Men to that. (I almost had “stuff” shooting out of my nose at your comment.)

Greg Cavanagh
Reply to  Scissor
December 4, 2019 12:04 am

You seriously need some help.

RockyRoad
Reply to  Scissor
December 4, 2019 3:30 am

Men to the rescue? Who knew?

“Ma’am, you look a bit distraught; may I offer you one of these?”

Oh yes, that sounds convincing!

Reply to  Scissor
December 4, 2019 7:29 am

“RockyRoad December 4, 2019 at 3:30 am
Men to the rescue? Who knew?
“Ma’am, you look a bit distraught; may I offer you one of these?”
Oh yes, that sounds convincing””

Twice during my career as a mailman, companies sent free samples to every address in our town.
1) Was a new variation of a tampon.
2) Was a small box of sanitary pads.

I delivered the tampon samples to apartments and one apartment building filled with retirees, I had old ladies chasing me down corridors, persistently trying to give the tampons back to me. “Give them to your girlfriend” they said.
Oh yes, the Post Office loves employees taking home free samples…

And mailmen love carrying undelivered trash back to the post office… It looks so absurd and unwork like to supervisors and the postmaster. They’ll just have me put it back in the case for delivery the next day, again.
Some of the old men physically threw the samples back at me. I won’t mention what they said.

At least my route for delivering the sanitary pad samples were street deliveries. I was long gone by the time the people opened their “free” samples. Though a few did drive by and try to get me to come to their car and take back the samples… Nothing doing! Bulk rate mail is paid only for delivery, not returns.

markl
December 3, 2019 6:54 pm

Just another manifestation of One World Order.

Paul S
December 3, 2019 6:55 pm

Au Contraie, if we support climate change, then the implementation will destroy democracy. (as planned)

Eric Von Salzen
December 3, 2019 6:58 pm

The UN is going to send military forces into the US to make us stop carbon emissions? They better not try that in deer season.

Rhoda R
Reply to  Eric Von Salzen
December 3, 2019 10:55 pm

In deer season or out, those blue helmets make good targets. I wonder who they think is going to finance that insanity.

December 3, 2019 6:58 pm

Ole Wæver really can’t be very intelligent if believes all that.
The UN and its Army?
The Security Council where every permanent member has veto power?
This whole climate change scam is bringing out pathological levels of stupid in academia.

Robert Clark
December 3, 2019 7:00 pm

The United Nations is a terrorist organization, trying to bully.

December 3, 2019 7:08 pm

OK, who knows where we can get a group discount on yellow vests?

Tom Abbott
December 3, 2019 7:08 pm

From the article: “According to University of Copenhagen professor Ole Wæver, if we don’t act soon the UN Security Council might have to take over and dictate climate policy to member states, just as the EU took control of Greece.”

Who is this “we”?

The United States, Russia and China can veto any UN resolution so don’t expect any concerted action by the UN, especially considering there is no indication that anything drastic has to be done about CO2 production. That’s all speculation. The professor is ready to go to war over pure speculation. How delusional is this guy?

Carl Friis-Hansen
Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 4, 2019 1:36 am

After Second World War Denmark rebranded the war ministerial to the defense ministerial. It was to emphasize that Denmark would not be an aggressor, just defend it’s own territory. Wæver and his climate totalitarians does not seem to agree.
Why is it that radical academics have degenerated into so dangerously desperate behavior and inhumane world views? – Salon Communism?

Sheri
Reply to  Carl Friis-Hansen
December 4, 2019 4:34 am

Academics have always tended toward radical. Now, with the idiotic “self-esteem” crap out there, academics are gods in their own minds. Unfortunately, right now, there are still those who disagree with this assessment and are a threat.

As for “inhumane world views”, if you were out to rule the world literally, wouldn’t you teach stupid children whose stupid parents spend thousands to have them indoctrinated that humans are worthless and a blight? If the students learn to hate themselves, then others, the work of ruling the world is far simplified. People just watch the destruction. It’s actually a very, very good plan. Ask why the parents pay to destroy their kids’ futures. That’s the real question here.

Megs
December 3, 2019 7:11 pm

This article was put out by Australia’s National Broadcaster, the ABC. This is just one many outrageous stories that they spew forth on a daily basis. Their journalists are all far left and they constantly promote the CC agenda. If anyone with conflicting views somehow manages to get onto a show with political content they are constantly berated and cut short.

They are nothing more than a propaganda machine and our taxes pay for them.

Google ACB Australia news items, it will give you an idea of what Australians are up against.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Megs
December 4, 2019 5:17 am

getting worse by the day isnt it?
theyre so “pro democrat” when reporting usa news
pro bremain as well
fullon syncophants for any climate lgbtqwhatsit tripe and the huge rise in aboriginal rights, land claims and similar has my blood boiling
pro immigration and the present crud over the illegals detained etc
damned if Id be paying what we do to keep on manus etc
return em to the last port, and thats ditto for the air arrivals also.
we really only get about 1/3 of anything they produce and then endless repeats and canadin cbc and uk bbc filers all carefully selected of course.
the weird thing is their reliance on fkbook and twitter as well as the apple itunes etc
commentsing on the homepages is damned near impossible and heavily censored

Megs
Reply to  ozspeaksup
December 4, 2019 1:53 pm

Yes OZ, “Our ABC” Except that most of us don’t want it!

Clarky of Oz
December 3, 2019 7:20 pm

The UN and whose army?

Major Lank
Reply to  Clarky of Oz
December 3, 2019 8:33 pm

WWIII – the climate war!
UN tanks will be shielded by solar panels and aircraft will all be gliders. It will be over when the sun sets and the wind stops blowing.

Reply to  Clarky of Oz
December 3, 2019 9:24 pm

The UN will ask the US to provide troops.

MarkW
December 3, 2019 7:26 pm

We have to destroy Democracy in order to save Socialism.

Chris Hanley
December 3, 2019 7:27 pm

The technocracy declaring war on the people who support it financially, what could possibly go wrong⸮

Art
December 3, 2019 7:36 pm

Claim: Delaying Climate Action Could Threaten Democracy

Fact: Claim: Climate Action Will Threaten Democracy

Art
Reply to  Art
December 3, 2019 8:03 pm

Damn. Can’t edit. It was supposed to read as follows:

Claim: Delaying Climate Action Could Threaten Democracy

Fact: Climate Action WILL Threaten Democracy

AGW is not Science
Reply to  Art
December 4, 2019 9:50 am

I’d modify that to be a bit more factual:

Fact: Climate Action WILL destroy Democracy

The laughable inference of Ole Weaver’s diatribe seems to be “You only get to keep your democracy if you do what unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats TELL you to.”

Peter Fraser
December 3, 2019 7:40 pm

The sooner Trump cuts the U.N. budget the better. Without US funding the U.N. would be struggling to survive. The hysteria and stupidity coming out of this conference knows no bounds

MarkG
December 3, 2019 7:41 pm

“Vote to destroy your country, or we’ll destroy it anyway!”

Editor
December 3, 2019 7:51 pm

The largest CO2 emitter, and the country with the highest rate of increase in CO2 emissions, is China. Just start with them, and there is no threat to democracy.

Hasbeen
December 3, 2019 7:53 pm

The thing threatening democracy is not climate, but the UN trying to take over world government

David S
December 3, 2019 8:00 pm

Could, may, might, predicted; all hedge words as useful as an astrology chart descriptions or pulling tarot cards.

Richard
December 3, 2019 8:24 pm

Instituting the proposed solutions to ‘global warming’ would eliminate democracy completely. But then, that’s the point.

December 3, 2019 8:55 pm

Lat year they told us that climate change would threaten democracy. Now they say they have to take away democracy to fix climate change.

Anyone else getting the feeling that the real goal is simply to get rid of democracy?

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