Guest essay by Larry Hamlin
While climate alarmist propagandists in the developed nations have for decades been focusing their attention on the contrived alarmist politics of “settled science” and “supporting the narrative” idiocy as well as “climate denier” denigration of those challenging the scientific absurdity of this alarmism campaign global energy reality was being taken over by the world’s developing nations that were hugely increasing energy use derived from fossil fuels to unprecedented levels.
This fossil fuel global energy use reality became an avalanche during the last decade which saw the world’s developing nations establish their supreme dominance in controlling the trajectory and magnitude of all global energy use and emissions while making the developed nations mere spectators regarding these decisions.
The now well documented and established global control by the developing nations of the world’s energy and emissions outcomes is completely independent of climate alarmist politically hyped propaganda schemes employed by the developed nations involving the much overused “settled science”, “supporting the narrative” and “climate denier” labels employed to falsely chastise, threaten and silence those challenging the flawed and failed corrupt science of the alarmism campaign.
The developing nations energy use and resulting emissions have now become completely dominant in establishing that fossil fuel energy has been chosen to drive and dominate the world’s present and future energy use.
The developing nations global energy use domination controls world emissions outcomes with that result defeating the developed nations propaganda climate war campaign to abandon use of fossil fuels based upon politically contrived and scientifically unsupported alarmism arguments used for decades by the climate alarmists orthodoxy.
The global climate alarmism campaign has now been bypassed and completely overtaken by decisions to increase fossil fuel energy use as dictated by the world’s developing nations.
The developing nation’s control over global energy use establishes that energy and emissions decisions are based upon economic and energy priorities with this decision basis representing a huge paradigm shift from how the alarmist focused developed nations promoted such decisions based upon contrived schemes symbolized by the hyped concepts of “settled science”, “supporting the narrative” and “climate denier” political propaganda.
The world’s developing nations because of their dominance in global energy use and through their preferences as reflected in their energy decisions both during the last decade and in future energy use plans have now defined that climate alarmism propaganda schemes will not dictate present or future global energy use priorities.
The global climate alarmist propaganda campaign has in fact failed with the developing nations dictating that fossil fuels will dominate both present and future global energy use.
This idiotic notion that we (the U.S.) can control what other countries are doing is just childish. Nations will always act in their own best interests (except of the U.S. which is full of stupid childish ideals).
If we want to actually DO SOMETHING about the future energy sources, we should be developing advanced nuclear power plants that make production of U235 and Plutonium unnecessary (or at least reduce it greatly).
Meanwhile, we are stuck with these ugly nature killing-machines called wind turbines that suck money out of middle-income wallets for some rich-investors but do nothing useful.
Wake up people, coal is cheap and available locally. You really think countries like China and India are not going to burn it?
Meanwhile, if cities are worried about flooding they need to take actions to control it. Build dikes, raise land, and build sea walls – this isn’t that difficult to understand. You are in control of your own city – you cannot control nature nor the rest of the world.
Right on Robert!
America has over 600 years of good quality coal available. The CO2 can be transformed into good paying full time jobs and money. https://youtu.be/RQRQ7S92_lo
The CO2 produced calcium carbonate can be used to build those sea walls and restore islands and shore lines.
If we are going to continue living the lifestyles we are accustomed to we have to continue producing energy, but using it as efficiently as is possible. Natural gas is a fossil fuel that can be consumed to near 100% Energy Efficiency. Instead of blowing a lot of hot exhaust into the atmosphere, capture the heat energy and utilize it. http://www.SidelSystems.com Vent cool exhaust.
For every 1 million Btu’s of heat energy recovered and utilized 117 lbs of CO2 will not be put into the atmosphere.
In every 1 million Btu’s of combusted natural gas are 5 gallons of recoverable distilled water.
“The global climate alarmism propaganda campaign has failed – fossil fuels have priority”
Don’t you mean therefore it’s succeeded?
I keep asking you for a Plan B since emission control is dead and never going to work, even you should have worked that out by now. What the article is stating is the fact the world is going to burn more fossil fuels regardless of the outcome because there is economic and military advantage to do so.
You remind me a bit like the Hong Kong students it doesn’t matter how just your cause or even if you are right about your claims, those power nations will park tanks over your bodies before they give in. You might get MSM noise in democracies and they might allow protests to a point and that is where it ends.
If you don’t have any suggestion beyond emission control then stop wasting time posting.
To be fair to Loydo, there is a plan B, and C, and D, but none of them are palatable to the public so they are careful how to present it.
First, emission control isn’t dead, just needs more encouragement. If one reads all the best AGW sites then it becomes clear that taxes will increases, specifically carbon ones, by at least an order of magnitude.
However, even extreme taxes won’t do the trick and so straight up rationing will also come into effect. Rationing of any petroleum product, including plastics, as well as any ‘evil’ stuff such as meat. Don’t believe, just google “rationing to stop climate change” and read the results, they are all mainstream sources and all recent.
When even this isn’t enough, well just google some of the referenced same scientists, they’ve got even better ideas.
All strictly to be applied to you, not to them of course.
Do they actually state that rationing will stop Climate Change frenchie? What’s that Billy Joel dittie? “We didn’t Start the FIre.” Since climate change predates man we didn’t start it and we can’t stop it.
These propagandist and the elite body of the world’s wealth holders they work for, want to stop you from using their precious resources, is what the are really all about but then you already knew that.
Unless they can force China and India to take those actions, emissions control is dead in the real world. Tax people heavily, make them suffer, and achieve nothing for doing so, will lead to some very nasty consequences.
Cities will be burned for heat, starting with the legislative houses, and the homes of politicians. Next will be the homes and offices of climate scientists and eco-warriors. And finally, all those who live and work in those locations.
All those “solutions” you mention are politically unacceptable. The Yellow Vests protests began over the imposition of a “carbon tax” and people are not going to give up their meat or motors. Any pol who tries to achieve this will end up swinging from a lamp post. Ordinary folks are sick of paying for the hysteria of green billionnaires.
Sorry LdB, you did ask me in an earlier thread and I meant to reply and agree with you. Emission control is a total fail; they’re still rising exponentially ffs. Thats why I say Hamlin is wrong (and he knows it) the propaganda war, waged by vested interests, has actually been won. Great for the curent generation but it will be a bitter harvest for our children.
There is no propaganda war. People, including you, go out and buy oil- and coal-based products. It’s what humans do and requires no propaganda.
Emission control is a total fail because thousands of people can make billions on pretending to be concerned about emissions without actually doing anything about it Loydo. It’s the modern equivalent of digging ditches and filling them in.
Your bitter harvest comment is nonsensical. Links you have posted yourself show that this is not true. Destruction of the economy by the paid ditch-diggers is more of a problem for our “children”, and vastly so. You are entitled to your own delusions that you can’t seem to shake off but if you think anyone on here is going to be a convert to your delusion religion, I think it’s probably fair to say that the number of converts you have created is a round number.
Despite the efforts of certain academics and politicians to protect their incomes, the propaganda campaign to panic people into abandoning fossil fuels has failed.
Loydo,
Don’t you really mean that: “The global climate alarmism propaganda campaign has failed – fossil fuels have priority” has not failed?
As in the other thread, you ignore abundant evidence that “fossil fuels” are going to remain as the dominant source of energy consumption for decades to come.
Why can’t you ever drop your delusions over this?
Loydo displays the playing dumb tactic (which doesn’t require much effort).
“… this alarmism campaign global energy reality was being taken over by the world’s developing nations that were hugely increasing energy use derived from fossil fuels to unprecedented levels.”
That non-OECD blow-up of “increasing energy use derived from fossil fuels to unprecedented levels” wasn’t supposed to happen according to anyone in 2005. The non-OECD energy use didn’t take-off until after 2000 and really didn’t get going until post-2010. China’s growth explosion after entry into the WTC (2002) wasn’t supposed to be as disruptive as it has become. China’s industrial manufacturing rise was the 1st Black Swan they didn’t see coming until it was happening. That’s because China’s energy use exploded on continued affordable oil and coal. And has really taken off post 2014 as OPEC tried to kill US frackers with cheap oil. And cheap oil is the crack-meth for economies everywhere.
Coal use in the developing non_OECD also has a covariance linkage to oil (petroleum) usage for transportation/heavy machinery.
Extraction (mining, transport) of coal is highly fossil fuel dependent, and then it is commonly transported by rail or ocean ship over long distances to its final burning point… almost always a large stationary generation station for electricity or Portland cement for an economy. In today’s world, coal mostly provides electricity. And Petroleum provides the transportation and mobile heavy machinery energy. But they are coupled.
Take away petroleum (via scarcity leading to very high prices) and you take away coal consumption from nations that have to import large amounts of it, as it would be too expensive. That was the vision pre-2014 vision for the UNFCCC, the climate GreenSlimers, the Globalists.
US Energy Dominance via the fracking revolution with both oil and natural gas (natural gas that is now being exported as LNG), and the 2014 reaction to it, the sustained OPEC-Russia oil and gas output to compete has been the 2nd Black Swan tsunami that the Globalists, the GreenSlimer billionaires, the UNFCCC never saw coming until it washed over them. Now the combination of Fracking in the US for tight oil/gas producing abundant energy coupled to OPEC’s need to compete has kept oil at or near-historically low prices for 20 years now. And it may do so for at least another 20 years. And LNG for much longer as the US continues to develop and find ports to export it via the Gulf of Mexico avoiding the East and Left coasts of the US mainland.
This situation has the GreenSlimers and the Globalists in a panic now as their plans for power and vast wealth re-distribution have been torn asunder by US Energy Dominance and OPEC’s response.
In a way, you could call Donald Trump as US President a 3rd Black Swan they (the GreenSlime and their bootlicks) never saw coming. President Hilly was supposed to be coasting to are-election at this point with US gas pump prices well north of $6/gal, and the US middle class funneling their dwindling wealth into ever higher electricity bills to feed those dollars to the GreenSlimers’ wind and solar investments.
A President Trump has also further blown holes in their schemes for wealth and global power as he tells the UNFCCC COP process to go self-replicate. And despite his inane “triggering” tweets and cringe-worthy personal behavior, his administration wonks behind this Donald smokescreen keeping the Left-stream media occupied, as it continues to remove roadblocks the 0bama Admin was erecting to throttle shale fracking and deep-water oil and gas extractions. Trump’s Admin with Congressional GOP support has opened a small coastal section of ANWR to exploration, they’re keeping open federal land and deep water leases, relaxing onerous methane rules, and reduces red-tape. This all serves to position the US to continued Energy Dominance for at least to 2050.
The GreenSlimers are doing anything and everything they can to remove Trump so their Green destruction of the West can continue under their bootlick Democrat President. Steyer, Bloomberg, the Rockefeller Bros, the Annenbergs, and the rest of the Slimers are ready and cocked to spend at least $2billion next year on the elections to that end to defeat Trump (that is not an exaggeration). Let’s help them waste it. Doing so will help keep our gas and electricity affordable for the middle class.
Joel: Please replay this post in Oct. 2020 so that we can be reminded how serious the election really is…
Joel – well said! One nit – “kept oil at or near-historically low prices for 20 years now” is not quite right. A mere 10-11 years ago oil was priced as high as $140/bbl.
I hope you don’t mind, but I’m using “go self-replicate”. Admittedly, an extra syllable, but well worth it since some of my friends have kids, and the alternative flies around in front of them too much. Though the swear jar is filling up fast, and looks like it will pay for their college tuition.
Oh, and ditto to Joe’s comment: re-post next October.
The racist roots of the eco-wacko planet saving movement.
https://tambonthongchai.com/2019/10/14/racism/
chaamjamal
That is a nasty website full of hate, they see all others as not worthy, and fossil fuels are bad, yet their economies run on fossil fuels
Renewables, unfortunately for the world economy, should be expected to “contribute” a little more than forecast here. Ending the farce global warming/climate change/extreme weather/extinction crisis won’t happen until the general population is convinced that C02 isn’t the climate control knob. No evidence of that happening anywhere any time soon…except among most WUWT readers and a few other skeptics/deniers /realists scattered around the globe. A few $trillion has been spent on the war on CO2 in the past two decades and there isn’t any reason to expect at least another $trillion to be spent during the next decade or two. $Trillions spent on wind and solar power: An unworkable solution for a non-existent global warming crisis. The hopeless folly of wind and solar should become conspicuous during the next couple years as the hoaxsters attempt to extend the subsides for “storage”. But willfully uninformed voters and corrupt politicians can accomplish “miracles”. The charade continues.
Dennis,
You display highly linear, uniformitarian thinking about a world that is actually highly non-linear and chaotic. Watch out. Curves ahead.
“It is not what we don’t know that usually gets us in trouble. It is what we think is true that ain’t.”
– paraphrasing Samuel Clements
Indeed, Joel, using the linear logic, the Berlin wall will have been coming down one brick at a time over 200 years.
Joel, thanks for your thoughts, I’d really welcome some chaos in the renewable sector,,,,as long as it doesn’t end up in the Bernie/AOC version.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-50467317 A geologist has resigned from the geological society because they have connections with the fossil fuel industry.
John
Yes! I saw that! How ridiculous is that? Roger Harrabin, that doyen of the CAGW fruitcakes at the BBC, just loves to promote that kind of claptrap!
Clearly, the professor (emeritus) knows nothing about which he speaks and is simply another alarmist trying to get his name in the news! No doubt he is hoping for some grant money for his future “research”! Ha! Ha! Ha! ROTFLMFAO!🤣
Dumb or disingenuous (or both) professor. Oil and gas companies respond to demands from the general public, including I am sure, the silly professor himself. When he can prove he doesn’t use a single petroleum based product I shall respect him. Until then I’ll consider him a useful idiot for the alarmists.
I wonder if he sweats.
“The global climate alarmism propaganda campaign has failed”
Unfortunately it hasn’t.
Here in the UK political parties are offering to spend 100s of billions of pounds to be carbon neutral by 2030.
Money spent on windmills isn’t spent on hospitals and schools.
Ditto in Australia
Despite the growth of wind and solar, etc., the world’s primary energy has remained about 78% from fossil fuels for the past 45 YEARS.
The developing countries have little reason to meaningfully move away from fossil, because they need low cost energy and electricity to develope their economies.
COP 21 promised them tens of $billions each year, but all fell flat, because Obama could never get approval of his promises from Congress.
COP 21 was designed to be a bad deal for the US
Most folks did not understand that at that time, and many of them still do not, primarily because they are not curious, or prefer to believe otherwise.
If you look at just electricity though, there’s a very different picture…
Transport will be catching up soon.
Developing countries with no fossil fuel resources of their own find fossil fuel energy prohibitively expensive and are now seeking other solutions….
E.g Algeria
https://www.eia.gov/beta/international/analysis.php?iso=DZA
I see that Griff as usual doesn’t do any PRIOR research before inserting foot in mouth comment. I knew his post as grossly wrong, his ignorance in vivid display.
What other delusions do you have about Africa, that you can share with us, Griff?
The only reason ANYONE is going to meaningfully move away from fossil fuel is if another source (think nuclear) becomes cheaper and more available.
Anything else is like expecting a river to run uphill.
Never mind facts or reality, the mentally retarded children will continue to scream and cry all while growing increasingly violent and continuing to benefit from fossil fuels, hydro and nuclear generated electricity.
The Democrats will never be able to sell their “Green New Deal”. That is because the counter argument will be to show that only the United States will be giving up airplanes, and cattle, and powerplants to stem CO2 production. Meanwhile, the rest of the world carries on with business as usual which means the continuing use of airplanes and cattle and fossil fuel powerplants.
As this article points out, what the Western Democracies do with regard to reducing CO2 is just a drop in the bucket when considering worldwide CO2 output, and will have no effect whatsoever on the Earth’s climate. A useless demonstration costing TRILLIONS of dollars. Idiocracy.
Well USA can give them up if the democrats can manage a miracle but China and Russia definitely wont and then the result is obvious 🙂
I disagree with the statement:
“The global climate alarmism propaganda campaign has failed”
Green madness is alive in well. Say Canada, UK, Germany, Australia, California, and so on,,,
Alarmism is the moral justification for the Developed Country forced (weaponized legal system, weaponized political system, and so on) installation of green stuff that does not work (significantly reduce CO2 emissions) and makes electricity as expensive as possible and the attempt to shutdown the hydrocarbon industry.
It is (this green madness) actually quite organized.
All those “solutions” you mention are politically unacceptable. The Yellow Vests protests began over the imposition of a “carbon tax” and people are not going to give up their meat or motors. Any pol who tries to achieve this will end up swinging from a lamp post. Ordinary folks are sick of paying for the hysteria of green billionnaires.
As a kid, I learned that I was part of a privileged few. That most of the world was living in conditions that were significantly poorer than I was. I did not grow up rich. In my country, I was lower middle class at best. I worked myself up. But I still count myself among the lucky ones. Lucky to be born into a country and system where although its hard its not impossible to rise up. And live a good life. And improve the lives of my children who are able to enjoy things I could not even dream of. Who am I to deny this to the rest of the world. The developing world needs fossil energy if they want a go at prosperity. Otherwise, they are doomed to the Middle Ages forever. Who are we to deny it to them when we already had it?
Apart from being cheap coal has another big advantage , It is in Natures natural storage battery.
A pile of coal by a power station does not need any covering or building. Come rain or snow it just sits there waiting to be turned into that oh so needed electricity.
What is there e not to like about coal, why it even produces that much needed gas CO2.
MJE VK5ELL
Note the heading on the one chart: “The world will keep burning fossil fuels the IEA WARNS” (emphasis minse). The one word, “warns,” shows that the IEA isn’t acting as a scientific or fact finding organization but as a propaganda one. The proper, unbiased, word is “observes” or “predicts”.
Un-American, Socialist/Communist Bernie, who celebrated his honeymoon in his pajamas with a bunch of Russians in the USSR, is totally off his rocker regarding fossil fuels.
He will 80 years old, if sworn in as President, with a history of heart problems and a heart attack.
The US deserves much better.
Look out the window: NO WIND and NO SUN
The RE folks are pure wackos.
They know nothing about energy
They inanely mouth anything that sounds good.
They irresponsibly befuddle lay people.
There is no way the world could support 10 billion people without fossil fuels.
Despite the growth of wind and solar, etc., the world’s PRIMARY energy has remained about 78% from fossil fuels for the past 45 YEARS.
The developing countries have little reason to meaningfully move away from fossil, because they need low cost energy and electricity to develop their economies.
COP21 promised these countries tens of $billions EACH YEAR, but all fell flat, because Obama never could get approval of his excessive Paris promises from Congress.
That money was to come out of a $100 billion/year SLUSH FUND, ADMINISTERED BY THE UN!!!!
COP 21 was designed by Europe to be a bad deal for the US.
Most folks did not understand that at that time, and many of them still do not, primarily because they are not curious, or prefer to believe otherwise.
Europe has no interest to give the US ANY advantage in international trade, and that includes climate change.
Europe wants to burden the US as much as possible with climate expenses, the main reason EUROPEANS are pushing EXPENSIVE Offshore Wind, because THEY have all the expertise.
Europe was giving China and India a free pass regarding CO2 reduction, PLUS $billions/y, until decades later, just to get them to sign the COP21 accords.
When US money disappeared because the US withdrew from COP21, there was panic. Who was going to pay?
Obama had foolishly agreed the US would pay.
NOTE: The same panic occurred when the UK announced Brexit. Who will pay the very sizable UK contribution to Brussels?
“The world’s developing nations because of their dominance in global energy use and through their preferences as reflected in their energy decisions both during the last decade and in future energy use plans have now defined that climate alarmism propaganda schemes will not dictate present or future global energy use priorities” condensed to
luxury problems vs. real world demands:
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https://www.google.com/search?q=para+bellum&oq=para+be&aqs=chrome.
Once there was Morocco plans to deliver renewable power to Europe:
https://www.google.com/search?q=King+of+Morocco+Plans+to+Export+Solar+Power+to+Europe+%7C+AIChE&client=ms-android-huawei&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8&ctxr&ctxsl_trans=1&tlitetl=de&tlitetxt=King%20of%20Morocco%20Plans%20to%20Export%20Solar%20Power%20to%20Europe%20%7C%20AIChE#sbfbu=0&pi=King%20of%20Morocco%20Plans%20to%20Export%20Solar%20Power%20to%20Europe%20|%20AIChE
https://www.google.com/search?q=Morocco+depends+on+fossil+fuels&oq=Morocco+depends+on+fossil+fuels&aqs=chrome.
https://www.google.com/search?q=the+beatles+once+there+was+a+way&oq=the+beatles+once&aqs=chrome.