From the “there’s no quality control in climate science” department comes this laughable revelation, via the Australian:
Scientists’ petition on climate crisis blocked over fake signatories
Dozens of signatories including Mickey Mouse and Harry Potter headmaster Albus Dumbledore from Hogwarts have been removed from an Alliance of World Scientists declaration of a “climate emergency”.
Access to the 11,000 name-petition that accompanied a statement of concern published in BioScience on Tuesday was blocked on Thursday.
A statement issued by Oregon State University said “an administrative error unfortunately saw the inclusion of a small number of invalid names”.
Josh of course, has a visual opinion about it:
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And the names you can see in the picture – a nutritionist, an ecologist, and an environmentalist. Obviously these are the best of the best when it comes to complex physics.
The biggest part of this petition is that I did a little research and was unable to find what they were actually signing to. there was some addendum S2 I believe..that outlined some warming info…but I didn’t see how that was assigned to the list of signatores which was addendum S1.
published in BioScience links to a demand for money from Murdock, where is the supposed list of names, I’d like to scan it?
From World Scientists’ Warning of a Climate Emergency (Condensed Version)
The Ethics of Science
The end that science seeks is truth.
There are rules that must be followed in seeking the truth which require trust, independence in observation and in thought.
Freedom, respect and tolerance are handmaidens to science.
Scientists acquire knowledge by small steps, none of which is final and the mistakes of one generation of scientists are rungs in the ladder toward truth.
The only purpose of seeking the truth is to accumulate knowledge which becomes the property of the world without respect to race, religion, nationality, political and sexual orientation or cultural beliefs. Science is unifying because it seeks answers which society ultimately hold as important.
-by William Stone, signatory of the second warning to humanity
The irony of the discrepancy between what this says and what the climate catastrophologists are doing is mind-blowing.
Truth?
Independence in observation and in thought?
Respect and tolerance?
Handmaidens (as in The Handmaidens’ Tale)?
To accumulate knowledge?
Without respect to race, religion, nationality, political and sexual orientation or cultural beliefs?
The Alliance of World Scientists is itself kind of fake. It is something concocted solely to endorse and spread alarmism. link ie. It’s not an existing organization that decided to start a petition.
It’s not only Micky Mouse that’s fake the whole “Climate Emergency” is fake. What would be an emergency would be decarbonisation followed by a very major volcanic or asteroid event that blocks the sun for a long period of a year or two.
Ha Ha Ha, 11,000 scientists? It really is a load of nonsense, but add this load to Al Gore’s initiative, Attenborough’s films, 1000 academics demanding time off to deal with the crisis, Halloween climate scare videos, misinformation about wild fires and we arrive at the inescapable conclusion is that we are facing a deluge of alarmist propaganda and that is just in the last couple of weeks.
We have lost the argument. Face it. WUWT does a fantastic job and the regulars here reinforce the disbelief in the scare stories. We all value that, it keeps us sane, but we see politicians taking crazy decisions in their panic to pander to the hysterical faction of the public that calls for urgent action.
OK, most of the public may not know, care, believe or worry about climate change but there are enough who claim to speak for them to establish public opinion in the awareness of the politicians.
We must raise our act, but how? Several points spring to mind. Types of extreme weather such as storms, floods, droughts, fires and sea level rise are not suddenly getting much worse. That is a lie and the official data shows that. Remove these and what else is causing the so called emergency?
Our climate scientists must be aware of that. Why are they silent and therefore condoning by inaction the deliberate and fraudulent terrorisation of our citizens and their children with false threats of an emergency or crisis?
We need to get more proactive, more savvy about how to counter propaganda and more critical of climate scientists who fuel the misinformation or allow it to occur.
There are many frightened people out there who are overwhelmed by the sheer volume of alarmist claims. What are we going to do about that?
As a small boy, I longed to become a scientist and I believed that science was a search for the truth. As an adult of mature years, I have a very low opinion of a great many scientists even though I spent my entire working life as one of them. However, I believe in the power of truth and scientific evidence is still hard to beat. That gives us the upper hand. Let us use it.
Didn’t Micky Mouse also win the Nobel Peace Prize in 2009?
All qualify as a Fake! Ha ha!
Dr. Donald Duck denies there being any quackery.
This remind me of the March for Science a couple of years ago. They handed out white lab coats to anyone who showed up. Viola’, instant scientists. All you had to do, in this case, was enter your name into a database and you were counted among The Elect. The news media doesn’t bother to check the list. To them 11,000 names are 11,000 scientists or anyone in a white lab coat is a scientist, as long as they spout the right nonsense.
What about the list of scientists concerned about science and agenda science?
There’s even a sexologist in the list I downloaded yesterday!
I’ve got only a BA in computing science, no wonder, with my mediocre mathematics anybody will know more about climate change than poor little me ;-(
There is two sexologists on the version I have. One of them is named “Rob Rob” and he’s from Cambriddge (sic). Seems legit.
Sorry, “Cambridgge” is where he is from.
Thanks for the correction. That makes all the difference.
Mr. of Nov.7th. says it. Take away the Government grants and we would see a
massive decrease in the number of so called “”Climate Scientists””.
They come out of Uni with no worthwhile knowledge for a job in the real
world and soon latch onto the taxpayers drip feed machines.
While I would not wish a economic recession on any country, it does do one
very necessary thing. It gets rid of most of the fake type jobs usually created
by governments to keep certain interest groups at bay.
All governments do it, just throw some money at this or that “”Progressive “”
group to shut them up for a while.
MJE VK5ELL
Do a search on ‘Psych’ and you’ll come up with more than 70 psych/ologists/iatrists/etc plus another 70 or more neuroscientists. Lord knows they need them.
Almost 80 mathmeticians, Lord knows they need them too.
You have 2 random IBM guys and a 4 professors of computing which a few overlap with math.
You have 3 finance officers. There’s gotta be a problem if you’re paying people.
A few visiting fellows.
A nano-optics researcher.
A museum curator, almost 20 archaeologists,
A school principal
and a few people who are just “Member”, which I am sure is true.
and Micky Mouse… of course. Who had to leave Minni to do this.
Consensus is not science…lies are not science…endless failed models are not science…ignoring and/or altering scientific fact is not science…hysterical alarmist bleatings are not science….children are not scientists…propaganda is not science…and fraudulent, financially reliant hoaxsters are assholes>scientists.
Its hard to find something “they” say that seems remotely like science to me, I’m guessing I am not alone in this?
One interesting fact is that the people at the top who are pushing this swill openly say that it is all bullshit and that it is about redistribution of wealth and bringing our personal freedoms to an end under an unelected totalitarian regime that will dictate from on high into every aspect of your lives. “They” obviously need another lesson into our love for our freedoms and I predict, like apposing magnets, the closer they get to their target the harder we will push back, the sort of lesson they gave Mussolini would be my personal choice.
Thank you all for your enlightenment and decency, you are the vanguard and the hope of the side, and…thank Christ for Trump…he has brought us some time, we need to use it!
The fake names are the sanest part of the declaration.
The issue with science is that it is pretty convincing if its good,as opposed to petitions. I reckon a lot of the scientist read media and communication. If you are right, just prove, but please do not take a vote.
You mean Donald Duck is not a scientist??? I am so disappointed. I am going to stop watching cartoons!
Gyro Gearloose should qualify
:-)) you remember him;-))
my favorite character as a kid
so many people dont remember all the less mainstream characters
Mr Peabody would qualify, if he wasn’t a beagle. After all anyone who can invent the WABAC (aka Wayback) machine must have some scientific smarts.
This just buttresses my point that these 11’000 human haters should be first. Show the courage of your convictions, strangle your children, then your parents, then your spouse, then blow your brains out, all on live feeds so the world can witness your dedication to the climate crusade. Till then? Go F**k yourselves, human hating c&nts.
Are any of them really climate scientists?
Wienhold Hans – BS detection and analysis
🙂
From the Hamilton Spectator report:
“[Bruce] Newbold [who is on the advisory board of the McMaster University Centre for Climate Change] said some on the list may not appear to have expertise in climate change, but he cautions that scientists from a wide-variety of fields see and study the effects.”
“Social scientists are also very much involved in climate change discussion because of the impact of climate change on our society,” said Newbold. “It’s not necessarily the scientist that’s working in a lab and doing that environmental work, but they could be doing work about how populations are going to need to adjust or respond to climate change.”
Well, BS detection and analysis IS a social science. I also drove a cab for several decades, through the hottest days of summer to the most bone-chilling of winter storms.
Therefore I qualify for inclusion on that list.
Also, I did not use a fake name like that Mickey Mouse feller.
What fake name? That Mickey Mouse feller is a bon-a-fide movie-star (he’s appeared in over 130 films) everyone knows movie stars that play a part are deemed experts in the field there after. And Mickey played a mad scientist in the 1937 Disney film the Worm Turns, so that qualifies him for inclusion on any list involving science. /sarc as if it wasn’t already obvious.
@Art very good thorough piece of work from The Rebel team there
The link at the top of the page to The Australian – 2019-11-08 – WORLD by GRAHAM LLOYD ENVIRONMENT EDITOR is behind a paywall
But Andrew Bolt has a good 5 minute video
https://youtu.be/ps0qpv5RVWo
Same thing happened with the Oregon Petition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Petition#Credentials_and_authenticity
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Only difference is it was the other side of the fence.
A consensus of 9 out of 10 hookers prefer cash.
Or drugs. They are rather unclear on certain points.
Well, after filtering the names, maybe Oregon State University can move next to filter the listed “Professional Position and/or Discipline” that accompanies each signatory. Here is what I found among the list of those 11,258 “scientist signatories”:
“landscape ecologist”, “PhD candidate”, “manager director”, “PhD student in astrophysics”, “researcher”, “senior lecturer”, “PhD student”, “archaeoentomologist”, “geography lecturer”, “postdoc fellow/cognitive neuroscience”, “lecturer”, “associate professor in political science”, “student”, “professor of political science”, “chemist”, “biomedical science”, “animal behaviorist”, “professor of psychology and business “, “reader in systems and predictive biology”, “accaunt and finance Phd”, “medicine”, “zoo keeper”, “researcher in nanoscience”, “molecular cell biology”, “retired”, “scientific on plant sciences “, “professor of sociology”, “food safety/veterinary epidemiology”, “emeritus professor of obstetrics & gynaecology” . . . and this is just from the start of the alphabetical listing up through last names starting with “Am”!
There was no need for me to delve further.
And there are a quite a few signers of the declaration that just left this column blank.
I’m not saying they are all invalid positions/disciplines, but it does give one cause to go “Errrrr . . .”
They probably circulated an online petition and took whoever signed it, whether or not the person was actually a climate scientist or a fictional character, or simply a global warming activist.
Did anyone find the glaciologist Paul R. Bare on the petition?
Not in the pdf I downloaded.
There’s 42 entries with ‘glacio’ in the text