Swedish climate activist Greta Thunberg is looking to the world for suggestions as to how she can re-cross the Atlantic after next month’s U.N. climate summit in Chile was unexpectedly scrapped.
The 16-year-old made it from Sweden to California by yacht, train and electric car before Chile’s government announced it was canning the summit because of political unrest in the South American nation.
The COP25 summit will now be held in Spain and she is pleading for public help to make the 6000-mile trip through carbon-free modes of transportation.
“As #COP25 has officially been moved from Santiago to Madrid I’ll need some help,” Ms Thunberg tweeted from Los Angeles.
“It turns out I’ve travelled half around the world, the wrong way.”
“Now I need to find a way to cross the Atlantic in November … If anyone could help me find transport I would be so grateful.”
As #COP25 has officially been moved from Santiago to Madrid I’ll need some help.
It turns out I’ve traveled half around the world, the wrong way:)
Now I need to find a way to cross the Atlantic in November… If anyone could help me find transport I would be so grateful.
-> https://t.co/vFQQcLTh2U— Greta Thunberg (@GretaThunberg) November 1, 2019
Thunberg refuses to fly because of the carbon emissions involved.
Her cry for assistance Friday came after she spent time with Hollywood actor Leonardo DiCaprio discussing ways and means to help the world struggle through what they claim is a “climate and ecological emergency,” as Breitbart News reported. DiCraprio called her a “leader of our time” and revealed they have made “a commitment to support one another.”
Rowboat or swim.
I think she could hike, snow shoe and ski to the Bering Straight, then paddle a Kayak across (unless it’s frozen) then hike, snow shoe and ski across Siberia until she reaches civilization whereupon she could find some nice roads and trails for a bicycle. She might be a year or so late, however.
Or she could take a hot air balloon from DC.
Couldn’t do a hot air balloon.
Hot air in a balloon is usually produced by gas or maybe coal at a pinch but not by electricity or nuclear energy.
Poor Greta
I was thinking she might grab a politician or two for the hot air.
Go South, down the coast of Chile and cross the southern ocean to General Bernerdo O’Higgins base. From there she could snowshoe around the coast to Masson where she could catch a berg headed north to South Africa. From there is is a simple hike up to Cairo and a trot through Israel and up to Istanbul. From there it is an easy trek through Eastern Europe to Copenhagen, a short swim to Malmö and she is almost home.
Of course a 747 could get her from Santiago to Madrid in 12 hours for $365 one way on Iberia Air
Her personal hot air would do the trick
Au contraire, balloon filled with unicorn farts will do.
That sounds like perhaps the most possible means, unless one could walk across a rainbow.
How about a really, really big sling shot.
Use her own or de Caprio’s hot air, or maybe Gore’s very hot air.
Gerald: Gore’s very hot air will make the balloon catch fire. Sorry about the technicality.
No, she stands stands below the balloon and talks to it. Plenty of hot air. Problem solved.
“Or she could take a hot air balloon from DC.”
I presume the fact scissor mentioned DC was supposed to indicate that it is a plentiful source of hot air. However, humans breathe out about 4% CO2, so not exactly “carbon free” choice.
Not in DC! Plenty of hot air.
Stay in Chile, or a hydrogen balloon, or dirigible,
JPP
http://aeroscraft.com/airships/4575666081
Stay in Chile, and Skype.
Auto
Since when has Skype been carbon-free?
Hydrogen is generally produced by reforming methane (a GHG) with hot water vapor (another GHG) giving molecular hydrogen (H₂) and carbon dioxide (a GHG).
There is the story of Lillian Alling who hiked in the 1920s from New York across America and Canada and possibly made it across the Bering Strait with the help of some Eskimos. It took her four years.
Apparently crossings of the Bering Strait are fairly common. It is said that the Eskimos used to do it all the time.
CommieBob thanks so much for sharing this story. As an Alaska resident with parents in Maryland, I have driven back and forth the same path many times. It is amazing to imagine a woman walking this path in the 1920’s. I’ll be researching this story in a lot more details now.
If she could just hook up to a whale and get dragged across the Atlantic. I read that Jonah traveled a good bit by whale, when he was swallowed up.
Yeah, traveling by whale takes a little getting used to, but it works.
Most of the whales are with Uber now so they aren’t as hard to come by as in the old days.
Choices: water travel under or on, air travel, walk on water. Pick one.
She could just divide the oceans and walk across !
That is the obvious choice.
What did one ocean say to the other? nothing.They just waved.
Charles, I’m sure she thinks she can do #3.
She could change her gender as transportation. All explained here:
Thanks for that, Scissor. That is a really funny bit.
That was awesome Scissor. And so cool that some people are still willing and able to have non-PC humor. Have bookmarked right, hadn’t laughed like this in a while.
Di Caprio has a boat she could use! And it’s a proper super yacht. Just like the craft he likes to party on in exotic fossil fuel pumping locations all around the world with all those eco-friendly super green chicks who swallow……his environmental credentials! Sadly, a bit more CO2 unfriendly than the CO2 unfriendly boat Greta actually used on the way out to the States (with an equally climate unfriendly support boat, plus equally climate unfriendly airborne boat retrieval crew) but, hey ho, what do Climate hypocrites care about that? Do as I say, not what I do, seems the message from our media hyped ‘betters’ these days. P.S. No ‘climate’ was actually hurt in any of the above ‘movements’, except in the febrile imaginations of suitably indoctrinated climate Pharisees.
A great post. This high and mighty actor came to Canada to shoot a film around Calgary and told everyone he experienced climate change first hand when a chinook flew into the area they were filming in.
What an idiot. Calgary has chinook’s often at certain times of the year , common place there. Anyway great suggestion.
Considering any transportation involves a ‘carbon footprint’, and that getting across the Atlantic in a super yacht, with the result that 60 mean had to fly in order for that to happen , anyone with sense would advise this mouthpiece that taking one plane out of necessity is ok. Especially as she has a cosy friendship with one of the worst ‘carbon footprints’ – Di Caprio, who also has a private jet she could fly in.
My honest opinion is that her refusing to fly has nothing to do with the emissions and a lot to do with
a. Simple fear of flying and/or
b. Afraid of being enclosed with a lot of people for the duration of the flight.
She might actually have to listen to somebody for once, instead of just haranguing everybody in sight.
Source: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/this-greta-thunberg-thing-is-child-abuse
…
“The case of Thunberg is even more egregious. She began suffering from depression as a child, by her own admission, in part because she learned about climate change at age 8. She was later diagnosed with autism and obsessive compulsive disorder and gradually became despondent as she obsessed over her fear of climate change. She developed mutism and an eating disorder so severe that she once went two months without food, and she stopped going to school. Her only sibling, a sister named Beata, also suffers from Asperger’s and OCD, as well as ADHD. ”
“Now tell me, does it seem healthy to place a child with this many mental illnesses under the spotlight of public scrutiny, with a sole focus on the very phenomenon and associated alarmism that triggered her in the first place?”
Charles the Great M,
This brings up a number of top-line issues:
– how many children have been exposed to Al Gore et. al. And UN Climate nonsense?
– of those exposed to the nonsense, what percentage have developed mental disorders?
– does the WHO (world health organization) track the impact of the UNFCCC programs?
… And the list goes on…
Greta is a child, if she understands the carbon footprint she should conclude flying back to Spain is carbon neutral as she just spent 2 weeks on the Atlantic without any footprint (including electricity and toilets) to get to the USA.
“she once went two months without food,” … yeah, pull the other leg.
You actually read my post and think its funny?
The issues are a misery and consequences of crap media and crap Science!
I agree with Eve on this one. Row home.
My first thought was of the two Nordic immigrants who were not happy with the New World and wanted badly to go home. They were the first (as far as we know) to row West to East across the Atlantic Ocean.
I guess we could count Greta’s forebears the Vikings in the “rowing” category. They had square sails to assist.
They left some Runes as guidance for their descendants. We should translate them to see if it includes a shopping list for the journey.
well shes vegan? or vego so using animal skins for a coracle, would also “upset her”
so she can source some hemp some beeswax and a couple of fallen branches and DIY
and float her lil boat over the oceans
I gather some irish “saints” mamaged to get to canada? doing similar
time frame may be a tad uncertain..but really if she never made it , the world would be a better place
According to my math, given that planet earth is a globe, if Greta went half way around the world in the wrong direction, she would have ended up in exactly the same place had she gone in the “right” direction.
I think a lot of her supporters would think her capable of just walking across.
Neither rowing nor swimming. All that high effort CO2 being exhaled would upset poor Greta too much. She would have to admonish herself and that would never do.
Nuclear submarine – no CO2 at all.
Hand her a bag of Cheetos, and tell her start swimming.
It’s long swim, she’ll need a snack.
Solar-powered aircraft. AOC has it all worked out on p. 10,695 of her Green New Deal!
A Really Really Big Catapult
I suppose a swim from Long Island is out of the question. What a shame.
No, she must attempt the swim. Anything else would be hypocrisy.
I’m not sure I could kick her that far, but I’d be glad to give it a try.
How about shoe leather?
Harness the power of nature. Ask Aquaman to borrow some dolphins or flying fish.
Sailing eastwards across the North Atlantic at this time of year is most definitely not for the faint hearted. Maybe she should just continue heading west with the Tradewinds around the globe and then hitch a lift through Asia and Europe? Sure there’ll be plenty of celebrity owned mega yachts in California just waiting to get her on board!
How is her boat she took going west getting back? Surely, like a good chauffeur they have waited for her; otherwise they would have been deadheading going home; extraordinarily inefficient in the new Green world.
Usually they get loaded onto a boat carrier. Safer and quicker than the sailing that way.
Last time I looked, it was in Normandy, Le Havre waiting to start some race or other. They zoomed back across the Pond a few weeks ago after a two week stopover in Nova Scotia because of “inclement” weather. I believe they are now back out at sea so maybe they have arranged a rendevous with our little heroine somewhere mid Atlantic?
She could always try swimming – it’s a great exercise and I am sure she will find lots of interesting things along the way, including very cold water.
Oh, I’m afraid that swimming, walking, or any other self-propulsions are no good to disburse her extreme guilt either. She will have to eat food for these that has been planted, harvested, transported by fossil fueled machinery. Don’t you see that on close examination there is no way to evade your dependence on these energy sources by just choosing a particular mode of transportation (and never look deeply into what it takes to come up with and recharge an electric car). Greta, it’s simpler than you have yet considered. You truly have but one option. Don’t move a muscle and stay right where you happen to be now, deary!
Doc, you know, that is a viable option. Many people before her crossed the Atlantic never to return.
Why is attending COP25 so important anyway? She is not a country representative and has no standing in any NGO. Her parents are members of ANTIFA which is hardly a global warming group. They are on the verge of being declared a terrorist organisation.
If she wants to “feel at home” she would do well to go to Minnesota where the culture is distinctly Nordic. It was featured hundreds of times on “The Golden Girls”. She could also go back to school to learn how the world works.
Win-win as far as I can see.
She could clean up some plastic while she’s at it, I bet.
Good god, what has the world come to, have the rich and famous truly become stupid? Have the youth of today become so bored that they want to follow a crying co2 seeing child lead them in to the stone age? How will they survive?! leo flys everywhere, and has a yacht 😐 One film he stars in, must produces more of the magical co2 then I will in my whole life time… A leader, since when has greta become a leader 😐 and who does she lead?? Why doesn’t leo give her a lift on his yacht?!
she spent time with Hollywood actor Leonardo DiCaprio discussing ways and means to help the world struggle through what they claim is a “climate and ecological emergency,”
Swim.
you have to admire a man who can solve the worlds problems with one word answers.
K.I.S.S.
What she has done is the classic crawling out on a limb and then sawing it off behind her. By refusing to fly she is demonstrating to the whole world why air travel will NEVER go away despite these shrill cries of climate doom. I guess she is too immature to understand how silly she has made herself look.
What a sick joke, our young Greta must live in a fantasy world. So how many extra flights and nasty co2 will it cost this time to arrange her yacht crew etc ?
OH and driving in EVs doesn’t save much either when you add nasty co2 emissions from the fossil fuels that help to charge your vehicle.
Building the car and battery is also a big problem when you try and sell the car and work out how to dispose of all the toxic materials.
What a fra-d and yet these silly con merchants always get a free ride by the ever compliant MSM.
I suggest she fly to COP25, because she’ll probably generate less co2 emissions than her previous trip.
Is she old enough to broom it there?
I guess Hillary could give her a lift on her broom.
Yeah, Greta could slip aboard her wicca basket.
Yep. Or Naomi Oreskes has the Harvard deluxe model broom.
(Non-serious problems deserve ridiculing replies.)
Bicycle catamaran..
She should get a lawnchair and tie it to lots and lots of pig intestines filled with helium. Can’t use plastic of course or any synthetic fabric. Then she can float her way to where she wants to go. For steering, she can have a little hand cranked fan. I’m sure she’ll make it.
Does Helium come as an escaped gas from oil drilling? That may be another fossil fuel dependent transportation.
Windmill-electrolysis generated hydrogen …
Di Caprio could give her a ride on one of his private jets, surely? He offsets, and he can do that for her.
I did read that the Spanish government are offering to transport her. (Once upon a time transportation implied a one way trip to penal colonies). We should keep a close eye on all the emissions involved if they send a ship across the Atlantic to collect her.
Whichever way, I think there is likely ot be a lot of hypocrisy (CO2 emissions) involved.
Using what, ye olde Spanish galleon?
Hot-air balloon. Might even make it.
What would make it hot?
A Michael Mann speech?
Couldn’t they use a wood stove to heat the hot air balloon? Or better yet a wood pellet burner then any extra pellets could be shipped to UK for the ecological power generation.
Wood pellets are made of …. WOOD, which is made of carbon.
But if it’s burned in the Drax magic box you get
…’ green CO2′ & she cant see that !!
Wood pellets are made of …. WOOD, which is made of carbon.
There you go, she’s a witch!
Sir Vladimir: What do you burn apart from witches?
Peasants one: More witches! (Peasants two nudge Peasants one)
(pause)
Peasants three: Wood!
Sir Vladimir: So, why do witches burn?
(long pause)
Peasants two : Cuz they’re made of… wood?
Richard Treadgold
November 3, 2019 at 2:33 pm
No, no Richard, not hot air…haven’t you heard…hydrogen’s all the rage these days. And Our Dear Little Leader is way too young to know about the Hindenburg.
Alastair Brickell
November 3, 2019 at 3:05 pm
You’re right, hard to match it. Though that might be construed as inflammatory.
I wonder if she’d accept help from Marc Morano???
Whatever became of HB-SIA a.k.a. Solar Impulse, Picard’s multi-engine solar kite ?
Back then it was supposed to quickly become the flying norm and lead Switzerland to a prosperous aeronautical future, create thousands of jobs, blow Airbus and Boeing to bankruptcy, kick Embraer in the nose.
Picard, who once sold his school appearances upwards of 30’000 $ for a 45 minutes talk is suddenly silent. Come-on Bertrand, how can you miss such a stunt ? Winter ops over the pond, think of it, a once in a lifetime occasion to fly the green wunderkind of all times.
Sorry Solar Impulse can take no payload. And it needed more than one year to circle the globe.
Blimp
hitch with a manta ray
If she crosses he finger behind her back, she can fly “carbon free” for ever.
This one will always be headed the wrong way.
Click her heels three times and recite, “There’s no place like home.” All she needs are ruby slippers and it’s a done deal.
Cheers
Max
The trick is don’t go. If not producing CO2 is that important then live where you are. If it gets cold weave clothes from flax or hessian. Eat fruit and nuts from the trees and bushes. Drink from the rivers. Cast off the trappings of evil technology. Live simply. Enjoy.
Exactly. If you truly believe the alarmist chatter, then this is exactly what you need to do.
Alternative.
Hitch a ride on the ship carrying woodchips for DRAX. That must be carbon free surely. From England she could catch trains assuming they are powered by the the same carbon free DRAX Power Station.
No nooo – Drax burns carbon just like all the other boiler operating power stations – its just GOOD carbon – ie renewable – get with the program….
Hopefully she and her acolytes will learn that society is like the weather, both are totally unpredictable past the blink of an eye.
I wouldn’t lift a finger for her. And nobody should. Let her stay there until she outgrows her stupidity. Easy as that.
I don’t understand why Greta won’t travel by air. After all, the plane was going there anyway. In fact leaving an empty seat increases the per-passenger fuel consumption, meaning Greta’s virtue comes at the expense of increasing the sins of others. I wonder if she considered that?
Anyway, I hope she makes it to the COP in time to urge all the delegates to pass a resolution forbidding air travel to all future COP meetings. Seems to me Greta should expect a little more help, example setting-wise, from the very people who expect the rest of us to do the same.
You are assuming that there will be empty seats on the junket express flight. I’m pretty sure there will be some conscientious public servant prepared to make the sacrifice of attending the conference to ensure the flight is fully booked.
There’s another aspect to consider. From whatever she had said in public, Greta is a visibly deranged person.
I would not be comfortable to have her on board without medical certificate and competent escort. Just imagine the commotion if she looses it and starts shooting “How dare you?” around the cabin. Crews don’t need that on transatlantic routes.
Furthermore I’m not convinced that an airline would be really happy to take the risk or PR aftermaths from flying Greta.
Walk.
Of course – she’s so damn self-righteous that walking on water should be no problem for her.
Other than that, rowboats are carbon-neutral.
Rowing a boat is easy, getting the sheep to row it for you may take a little PR.
Yes. The availability of sheep to do the rowing is the problem. When people don’t have the resources for their pet projects, they always revert back to slavery.
Greta has expectations formed in a hydrocarbon-based world that are unrealistic in her self-imposed carbon-free world.
exactly….serious question…she has to go home sometime somehow…..how?
..she’s obviously here on some sort of tourist visa…when does that run out?
Well there you go. She can stay here till her visa expires then ICE can pick her up and ship her back on the next flight over whether she likes it or not.
Sailing this time of year could get a little dicey.
OK, a lot dicey.
As in, you can die.
This should be interesting.
I think the vast majority who sail across the ocean have a motor and fuel for when the wind dies or storms must be avoided.
Hard to believe she is requesting help publicly.
Wealthy beggar.
In that case, she definitely needs to sit very very still and stop emitting CO2. Bye, Greta.
Why spend any thoughts abought how she couldt come to spain ? 😀
Better had reflected before 😀
The Russians might offer her a lift on a nuclear submarine.
I was about to say “she can catch a ride on a nuclear submarine”, though not necessarily Russian.
Raft made of re-cycled solar panels. What’s not to like?
That will not float.
So?
She know less about anex 1 and non anex countries ambition and political shift of world.
For those, like her, who believe in fantasy tales a supersonic unicorn might be best.
Call her good friend in Russia (or France) and go by nuclear submarine!
If I remember correctly the Swedish church declared her a saint a month or two ago. She can Officially walk on water, no?
Shows she has been skipping school.
Not so good at Geography.
She was off to Chile. It is coming into Southern Hemisphere Summer, right?
Proceed as follows –
Just jump on electric bike and head south through Tierra del Fuego. Notice how warm and pleasant it is getting?
Rowboat to the Antarctic peninsula, although it is all melting there should be a bit of warm ice to walk on (if you forgot the electric bike).
Keep on south, left turn, avoid all the sunbathing polar bears and partying penguins, keep up with the factor 50 and your sunglasses. An easy trip round and then a short rowboat trip to Capetown.
Follow all the friendly migrants who will be delighted to guide you north to Morocco and from there into Spain is easy. They’ll be waiting for you with open arms!
What could go wrong?
If a polar bear is getting a bit too friendly, just glower and say HOW DARE YOU??
Griff said there wont be any polar bears the global warming has made them extinct.
Polar bears are already extinct in Antarctica… :))
“Griff said there wont be any polar bears”
There certainly won’t be any Polar Bears in the SH…. 😛
Unless they are stuffed.
theres a couple in zoos still ,I think;-)
If she really wanted to minimize here impact, she should go by freighter, but that’s not nearly as glamorous as a solar-powered catamaran.
Yes, I crossed from UK to Canada and back as a boy for a sea scout regatta, courtesy of the Beaverbrook paper freighters. I still have my discharge papers as I was signed on as crew… and my shilling wages! Quite feasible and under the radar.
Either she’s a brat or the poor kid is brainwashed by the liberal left wing environMENTAL establishment or both!
Travel without fossil fuels really kind of sucks, doesn’t it?
Thunberg. Her last name sounds like a combo of thunder and iceberg. Hmmm….
Pedalo.
Too fast.
People with Aspergers Syndrome are notoriously easy to deceive and manipulate. The freaks pulling her strings need to be prosecuted for child abuse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4UujtBWmzk
has all the answers
here’s some recommended methods
“…DiCraprio…” Unintentionally intentional?? I don’t expect an answer… 🙂
Spain has already offered to help, but other than buying her a plane ticket, I don’t see how else. Realistically, with less than a month to go, I don’t see her getting there any other way than by flying. But that would make her an obvious hypocrite, even if she were to purchase “carbon credits”, and would damage her brand. Talk about the horns of a dilemma. My guess is that, rather than risk damaging her brand, she will opt out of going, unless she can find space on some cargo ship (doubtful).
Cargo ship was my suggestion too in a previous WUWT post, but even if she could get a ticket, they have the right to cancel it until the last minute before sailing, due to more important last minute passengers.
President Trump recently hosted the winners of the Little League World Series in the Oval Office. The team was from Louisiana, where President Trump was scheduled to appear later that day. So he gave the kids a ride with him on Air Force One.
Maybe he’d be willing to provide Greta a ride home on the U.S.S. Dwight D. Eisenhower, a nuclear powered aircraft carrier. The ship itself unquestionably has a zero “carbon footprint.” What would be entertaining to see whether Greta’s head would explode when her zero-carbon transport had airplanes taking off from and landing on it daily.
That’s so cool. Those kids will remember that experience for the rest of their lives.
Right. The Eisenhower’s 114,000 tons of displacement is mostly steel and a honker pair of Westinghouse A4W nuclear reactors. No CO2 used in the manufacture of those components. 😉
She might just go for it. They’ll use on-deck rubber bands for the sorties, and perhaps give her a ride or 2.
Call your friend Leninardo DiCrapio , he has a big boat
Young Greta sailed across the sea
whilst sitting on a bucket
The people at COP 25
Looked and said ‘aww f*** it’
And now she wants a second trip
because she is so special
It can’t be done. Next question?
You can’t get there from here (without fossil fuels) in the time allotted. So buck up and book a flight like everyone else or continue to stand in the corner and pout.
Nuclear submarine. No carbon involved in the propulsion, unless there is a reactor accident and they have to shift to the diesel electric systems. Highly unlikely.
She could be reduced to her fundamental atomic structure and teleported by the secret space aliens at Area 51. Not too sure about the reincorporation of her atoms at the other end unless there is some secret Alien base in Sweden we don’t know about.
The balloon ideas above are all good – but it would have to be lifted either by helium or hydrogen gas. No carbon involved if she sets up the ballon at the bottling plants.
” Not too sure about the reincorporation of her atoms…”
Has the Heisenberg Compensator gone glitchy again?
I’m not sure…
If she is still in California, she should just stay there. There is an unnecessary industry there with a really huge, carbon footprint. She should stand at the movie studio gates in Hollywood, shaming them, and demanding that they shut down. The world can do fine without another DiCaprio film. Surely he would support her. Right?
“It turns out I’ve travelled half around the world, the wrong way.”
What a perfect metaphor for the whole of Climate Change hysteria
Hitch a ride on the next great white. That would reduce her carbon footprints.
Here’s a suggestion based on a similar, though much smaller, challenge.
The first person to swim the English Channel to France, Captain Matthew Webb, smeared himself in porpoise oil. I suggest Greta try that if she doesn’t care to wear a rubber suit made from fossil fuels.
Be positive – St Greta may yet be a force for good. Imagine if it got through to some of those climateer donkeys that air travel was wrong…….. then there wouldn’t be any more climate conferences!
St Greta deserves our support – she may not be very bright, but no-one can doubt her sincerity.
Yes, this could be disruptive. Probably will not be though.
I suggest Lord Monckton pick her up in a slow boat and give her an education all the way back to Europe. What a coup that would be when she emerged as a skeptic. She could then use her superpower for the good of the planet.
How does flying in a seat that would otherwise go unoccupied increase carbon emissions? Book at the last minute. Done.
Standby would also answer
Yep, that was my answer, educate her about how emissions from any aircaft crossing the Atlantic will not change if she gets on one.
Trump could dispatch an aircraft carrier for her
Virtual presence. Just like she and all other delegates should have been planning from the start. That’s if they really believed that CO2 is a problem.
Freak’in id***s
She could just use AOC’s transatlantic railway, as outlined in her Green New Deal. AOC has all the answers. Maybe AOC could go with her.
Does the railroad have high-voltage lines or does it drag 99 boxcars of batteries?
Richard Branson needs to lend her his helium balloon.
Trump should offer her a ride on a nuclear powered submarine or aircraft carrier.
One of those flying nun hats Saly Fields used to wear.
You’re showing your age Gary 😉 The millennials here will have no idea what you’re talking about.
Gidget.
How can you be so sexist as to call anyone a girl midget?
I bet a good hundred bucks that she’s gonna fly home/Spain/whatever over there…
She needs to walk. Wherever she’s going, it doesn’t matter where, she needs to walk there, and gather a following of children who give up their homes and families to follow her. And she needs to decide on the destination so that those who are not in her path can gather there to await her and greet her arrival.
“…It turns out I’ve travelled half around the world, the wrong way…”
Glad she can admit the error of her ways. That’s step 1.
Surely she can emulate Captain Jack Sparrow..
There are a lot of her elite</b. "virtue signalling" friends who are flying their private jets from airports all over the world to attend the COP.
Just hop on one of them; her weight will be negligible compared to the booze and entourage that will accompany them.
She just needs to overstay her visa and turn herself in to ICE. They will see to it that she gets back to Sweden.
Oh no, do we need to have her back in Sweden?
“Oh no, do we need to have her back in Sweden?”
YES,
we want a ‘green clean world’ (when do we want it …now)
So dont let your rubbish get blown into other peoples yards; deal with your own trash
So they brought a kid over here from Europe with no way back.
That made me laugh! Stop it!
Forced deportation (to somewhere) for visa violations might work.
That way travel by air would not be by her choice but by a grateful government
agency.
Generally, a Swedish citizen can stay in the U.S. 90 days without a visa, so that action would not take place for a while.
So would her pilgrimage to Montreal and Edmonton in Canada reset the 90 day clock, or is it 90 days total ?
Going to Canada dont count for a reset.
She could probably get a 90 days extension, but thats the absolute limit.
“It turns out I’ve travelled half around the world, the wrong way.”
Geographical ineptness abounds. If she had gone the other way she would be in the same spot if travelling 1/2 way around the world.
Reminds me of the joke/question – how far can you walk into a forest?
A: You can only walk in 1/2 way, from then on you are walking out.
Clearly her home schooling is working.
Oxcart.
They were grounded twenty years ago and put in museums.
Still, she has nothing to worry about. Gaia will find a way.
Carbon-based. Perhaps she can form a glass plane and slide on her carbon-based ass.
Where’s her father now?
There is many military flights from USA to Europe, I think.
Only if she can see reason and considers asking the military help… maybe from POTUS himself (!)
(publicly);
she may just easily make it in time, with no any infringement on her commitment…
as that will be “civilian free” CO2. (also children o teens free).
Oh well, it takes sacrifices some times, especially in emergencies…
like asking for help an elder guy perhaps… 🙂
Could be very helpful indeed, especially if the President Trump haters start having anxiety fits and worries at even the slightest possibility of such as. 🙂
Oh,well…if one has got to make it away and leave, one has to be serious and really committed about it… 🙂
cheers
I guess she hasn’t heard of video-conferencing. The rest of us has to do it!
Yes, but if she did a video-conference, she wouldn’t be able to be there to personally experience and revel in the people’s worship of her.
You mean she can’t project “visions”?
Since she’s clearly not concerned about the construction cost of her chosen transport until now then the Nuclear Carrier or Sub are by far the most efficient way to go.
As long as reGretable is exhaling, a ‘carbon free’ trip cannot be achieved. In fact, there is NO way she can travel from California to Spain ‘carbon free’. The very proposal is a farcical denial of reality.
Tell her to watch the movie Up. Some good ideas in there.
Welcome to reality Greta kid.
Before fossil fuels supplied the ability to mine, smelt, refine, precision machine metals and produce poly substrates for vehicle components and fuel for modern transportation, people walked or relied upon animals for transportation.
Fortunately, it is heading into Northern Hemisphere winter. You can travel on the Arctic sea ice and reach almost to Sweden.
If you run a hundred miles per day, you could reach spain in 2 months and ten days.
You’d kill horses at that rate; so riding a horse, will require almost four months. And the horse will not appreciate you.
Dog teams pulling a sled can keep up with people. But, that would only work for the Northern part of the route as you cross Canada, Arctic sea ice and hopefully get convince a Swedish/Norwegian boat to pick you up off the sea ice and drop you in Europe. Technically, you could stay on the sea ice until you reach Russia; but, they may not appreciate you invading Russia.
Then it’s all down hill to Spain.
Of course you scrutinize the labels of your clothes, coats and shoes? Meaning that you will inly wear hand harvested, hand spun, hand woven natural fibers.
Wearing microfiber and other synthetics; e.g. as most shoes are constructed from synthetics, proves to the world you are a hypocrite. Just as your trip to North America on a boat that cost millions of dollars and is almost 100% fossil fuel derived carbon, resins and plastics.
Why go to the conference anyway? She can’t possibly say anything she hasn’t said already.
How dare you!
I don’ t get this. Her parents and other handlers are with her. Why is she acting like she’s traveling the world all alone with no resources? Shouldn’t they be making her arrangements? How will they be getting to Spain?
I’m sure there were plans to get the sailboat back for her to go to her Nobel Prize Ceremony.
Not available to bring her back at such short notice.
Still she is in a clerk to stick.
Would be absolutely lovely to have the star attraction miss the climate conference.Even better I,f she has to nswalklow her pride and fly back.
Trump should offer her Air Force 1
I suggest she takes a flight back like ordinary people. Any other solution will be worse.
Otoh, a cargo ship via Hong Kong would keep her busy for months.
Isn’t this the ultimate lessen for an immature child . She does not care about all the pain and inconvenience she would cause to others if her requests were put in place and now she has a personal need to get to Spain and since she can’t use fossil fuels she is pouting like a spoiled child and begging someone else to get her to Spain.
What can she possibly contribute to the Spanish debacle?
Isn’t this the ultimate lessen for an irrational pair of parents?
Why go to the conference in the first place? She cannot possibly say anything she has not said already, and, as Oscar Wilde quipped, she is ‘A Woman of No Importance’.
$253 for a flight from LAX to Barcelona, via BWI and BOS… With all the money she’d save by flying, she could plant a LOT of trees!
The fact that she is talking about it shows that the message is getting through. Left wing environmentalists generally don’t like to walk the walk. If people get the idea that talking the talk will require that they walk the walk then there will be a lot less talking. Less talking is good because there is a great mass of people who choose their opinions based on what they think is most popular and what they think is most popular is based on what they hear a lot.
Has this child been abandoned by her parents? If yes, get her some help and prosecute them. If no, require them to sort it out.
How dare she ask for aid and take away my seniorhood!
Just wait for the sea level to go back down and then walk.
For god’s sake, send her a nuclear submarine!
North to Alaska. Ice skate and paddle (perhaps even ride on a polar bear) across the Arctic to Russia, then train to Spain. Might discover that the threat is not hot, but cold.
I will loan her a canoe.
Ruby Slippers! Click 3 times and say “There’s no place like (fill in blank)”. Rational.
If Madrid will not come to Greta, then Greta must go to Madrid.
‘If Madrid will not come to Greta, then Greta must go to Madrid.
If the climate communists were remotely concerned about global warming (as opposed to funding their global government), Comrade Greta would be leading the call to set an example by running the whole conference online.
(And who’s to say the Spaniards will be any more tolerant of climatocatastrophy-induced price rises than their rioting relatives in Chile? Before Greta’s solar-powered amphibian rolls into the Plaza Mayor, she might want to google up on the concept of red rags and bulls.)
Best and safest thing for her to do would be to stay in the US and maybe claim refugee status. It’s not safe for a young blonde girl back in Sweden.
She could discover Skype/videconferencing rather than feeding the cult of Greta by having to attend in person.
Solve your own green problem, you Pipi Nagtail
Saddle up a pig, they can fly!
So, what she is literary saying: I’ts all wrong. I shouldn’t be here.
Teenage girl seeks Spanish Fly.
Geoff S
The easy way to cross an ocean in a “carbon free” way is on a sailing ship. Too long, you say? A CLIPPER ship. We need to get back into building “tall ships” and chartering them for people who MUST attend in person.
But the BEST way is to use Skype, or GoToMeeting, or TeamViewer or Webex. We should mock – I mean, even more than we DO – any on-site meeting in some luxury resort city. Bali, for example, should be “right out”.
Apparently american woodchip burning for electricity is carbon neutral in Europe, so she should ask for a lift on one of these carbon neutral ships that transport the wood pellets from the us to europe.
Hoist by her own petard. And by making this public plea has driven herself even further into the Klaart.
An Atlantic crossing by primitive means in winter betokens a meeting with the probably thousands of seafarers who are ‘Still at Sea’. So when she runs out of US visa time it’ll be no doubt back to Canada where Justine will be happy to use her as a prop.
No doubt she’ll miss the conclave in Madrid, which may well not please the attendees as her virtue signalling will bring to public ridicule the transport choices of the thousands who are part of the Climate Jamboree. Brings to mind the comments made by Khrushchev about not defecating where one eats, or maybe the means by which little Greta will be thrown to the kerb 🙂
She should have the sail boat the brought her here come back and pick her up but it may not be safe to do that until at least late spring of 2020. The best way for her to attend the meeting would by via the Internet.
Yeah, COP 26 is to be in Glasgow. Perhaps she should be thinking about that.
“Oscar-winner Leonardo DiCaprio flew an additional 8,000 miles from France to New York and back to accept an award on climate change.” Maybe she can fly with Al Gore instead, as deCaprio now seems to have given up private flight.
This is interesting. Usually Swedish citizens may stay in US for three month’s. If staying longer we will not be allowed to enter again. It’s not enough to go to Mexico, she will have to leave the continent before entering US again. So please do not help her !
Girl who is telling us how the whole world should be planned in the future fails to plan for a return journey to Europe. Yep, simpering mainstream media, she’s well worth listening to.
As inviting as it is to comment on Greta’s self-imposed and silly predicament, it offers an example of a an increasingly common form of climate derangement especially in Scandinavia – the moral aversion to flying because of the GHG emissions and the consequent desire to shame anyone who uses modern aviation. This is lunacy but lunacy that has a continually growing cost. The European Union has translated this aversion into practice by requiring airlines to purchase offsets for a portion of their flights and the International Civil Aviation Organization, with US support, is working on a global aviation emissions offset program that will commence in 2021. The effect of the offsets, in fact, is to raise airline operating costs which results either in reduced profits or, more likely, in increased passenger and and freight costs. We will all soon be paying higher fares as a form of indulgence to compensate for our sins of using aircraft. With climate hysteria, the absurd has become the common.
Pogostick!
She should walk. There are many precedents for walking over the sea. Well, one; but in climate ‘science’, one is as good as infinity.
Why not hitch a ride on an albatross?
There is a certain chutzpah in demanding the world pay for Greta’s neuroses.
Any diesel-powered ship will do for Greta. As they cool the planet. At least the IPCC thinks so. NOx and SO2 are expected to cool the climate more than CO2 is expected to warm it.
I will start believing in mr Di Caprio’s sincerity when he scraps his private jet and cars and travels only by earth-bound public transport. Or on a donkey, of course.
See the thing is this is normal for them, their foot print, as enormous as it is, is normal for them. And they are pure, so only our emissions, the poor people, really do the damage. So in their minds they don’t need to reduce their “footprint”.
Didn’t you read the “open letter” from a bunch of these celebrities that came out the other week. They’re “stuck” in their high carbon lifestyles with out systemic change and won’t change their lifestyles (regardless of the “damage” they claim it causes) until everyone is forced to change by government decree.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/10/17/extinction-rebellion-admit-climate-hypocrisy-but-blame-the-system/
maybe ask eeeyore musk if hes got s protoboat with batteries ready for a test float(sink)?
at least if it selfimmolated it wouldnt be a firehazard to others and she’d get a free funeral
and we…would get some peace, although her brand of stupid IS amusing in a warped way
If she floats…..then…..
Let “Pobedy” take her there. Trigger warning for Greta. It’s the largest Arktika class, nuclear powered ice breaker (no CO2) & Russian, of course! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Let_Pobedy
Why does Russia have so many ice breakers & is still building them? Russian authorities want to maintain control in Arctic waters due to drilling opportunities, minerals and strategic importance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_21900_icebreaker
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_22220_icebreaker
How about if she gets certified as being schizophrenic, then claims double funding?
Better not make any plans this week. Spain has elections on sunday. COP25 might yet get cancelled again.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3096708/The-Jesus-gym-1-650-gadget-lets-exercise-walking-water.html
Begging for another free ride…. Gee, I thought her parents were raking in money from her appearances. MaybeI missed something, or maybe she’s just letting us all know that she sponges off of anyone who is silly enough to give her what she demands. She’s quickly turning into a public parasite. What’s next? Appearing on Cleopatra’s throne from the movie? Lawsie, just spare us, okay?
If she wants to go to Spain, let her find her own way there. I doubt she’s unaccompanied, in any case.
A good swift kick might give her the lift she needs.
I may be naive, but are you not supposed to have a return ticket when entering the US without a work permit?
Isn’t there a replica of the Mayflower? – Maybe MS G. Thunberg (no, not Motor Ship) and daddy could have a Mayflower replica manned for a historic return to Plymouth. It should be sail-able with a crew of 30, has no engines, probably oil lights (Greenpeace approved green whale oil usable too) and those who originally sailed the Mayflower called themselves Saints.
So there you go my dear Saint Greta, I am sure your many followers into the stone age will fund the project, before they go extinct.
How is it that we KNOW she has asked for assistance..?
Oh – the INTERNET….. I see….
What happens when she realises that the ELECTRICITY which runs the Internet is COAL POWERED..??
Will she stand in the middle of the continental United States and SHOUT..?
Yes. The availability of sheep to do the rowing is the problem. When people don’t have the resources for their pet projects, they always revert back to slavery.
Dog sled over the pole to Norway, lucky you there’s a tunnel-bridge from Sweden to Denmark.
How about a Nuclear Sub? It’s the only logical choice.
Maybe she will become a Nuclear Advocate!
How Dare You…
She could just fly with Leo, and blame HIM for all the carbon used…
She could probably generate the amount of power it takes to carry her little frame on a jet airliner using a stationary bike and some balloons.
The margin of error in filling the center fuel tank on such planes weighs about 8x what she does.
Look at her US Immigration paperwork to see what date and method of exit she declared she was booked on, before they let her in?
How about going back to Sweden and enroll back in school? She needs to be better educated and exposed to different views than what her extreme parents are providing
You clearly know nothing about the swedish school system, currently in a state of virtual collapse.
Esperanza is currently in South America!
Greta, I am sure Greenpeace will offer to take you to Europe with Esperanza. You would probably have preferred Rainbow Warrior; however, she is currently in Europe. Have a chat with the captain.
Reminds me of when Munckton spoke to a young woman during COP15 2009 in Copenhagen. They were discussing the weather, sorry climate, when Monckton asked something like: “Where do You get get the scientific evidence from” and the woman answered: “From Greenpeace!”
If Greta did the math she would learn that less co2 would have been released if she had traveled by comercial air ( or possibly by private charter) than all of the various transportation and trips required to provide this faux virtue signaling show.
“Now I need to find a way to cross the Atlantic in November … If anyone could help me find transport I would be so grateful.”
You can easily travel by airplane, would you believe it.
Greta: No, how dare you
Ok, would you believe by two boy scouts in a row boat?
Go down to a port and hold out your thumb. Or just stay where you are and settle in. Then you can make yourself a pain in the ass for that country.
Someone who competed in the Tour de France should lend her his bicycle, so she can bike her way along I-80 to New York. While she watches all the cars passing her, she might start thinking that she would be a lot less tired riding in one of those CO2-belching monsters.
Then she can hop in her yacht in New York and sail under the Verrazzano Bridge (named for the first European to sail to New York) and sail to Spain with the prevailing westerlies at her back most of the way. What could go wrong?
Then she could take the bike out of the yacht and ride it from a Spanish port to Madrid.
But what about all the CO2 she will exhale while biking over two Sierra Nevadas (one in California, one in Spain)?
She can avoid both sierras by going through the Mojave desert and up the Guadalquivir valley respectively. Harder to avoid breathing though.
However she presumably can do it. Since she can see CO2 she must somehow be able to do without breathing as she would otherwise keep blinding herself with exhaled air with 50,000 ppm CO2 in it.
50,000 ppm is only 5%, while annoying it wouldn’t be blinding. It would be no worse than looking through the screen on a screen door (probably somewhat better, as the mesh of the screen blocks more than 5% of the visible light, depending on the size of the mesh)
She should just geta cardboard box and live a low carbon-footprint life on the streets of San Francisco.
She can’t live her own life without asking for help from others, yet has the audacity to tell others how to live theirs. Shame on her.
I hear the Pinta is available and it’s still a fine ship.
I hear the Northwest Passage is just beautiful this time of year.
There is always orca riding.
I suggest she go by the most fuel-efficient method available: tourist class on a widebody jet.
Just about all other suggested metods (ocean liner, airship etc) are much less fuel efficient. The only things that might beat the jet is to go as a supernumerary on a slow freighter or drift across in a free baloon (alone of course, otherwise the crew would have to fly back).
Technically I believe you when you say flying is one of the most fuel efficient way of traveling long distances.
It is peoples intuition that is playing with them. The plane may use 20 ton fuel per hour and you can see and hear the big engines, but the plane is also going 800km/h or so and carry many hundred passengers. When they go on a passenger ship, they hardly hear and never see all the machinery on decks way down there.
The same story with the coal or NG fired battery cars. They are newer near the coal mountains supplying the charge, before they go out on the ride.
Out of sight, out of mind.
As I recall, the amount of fuel per passenger mile when flying varies tremendously, and is more efficient for some planes and distances than for others.
For very long flights, the efficiency may decrease somewhat due to needing to carry more fuel at takeoff.
But in general, flying is very fuel efficient, assuming things like full planeload of passengers, newer model jetliner especially, winds (it makes a big difference if you have a 200mph jet stream at your back vs. in your face), and distance all being favorable for flying.
walk east until you reach the coast, then swim you spoilt, petulent brat.
…and then explain in ten words or less how your mum and dad got home in time to ride your coat-tails to the hot-air fest.
She should give Laura Dekker a call. At 16 years of age in 2012,, this young lady single-handedly circumnavigated the globe in a in a 12.4-metre (40 ft) two-masted ketch.
She however had the sense not to go by way of the North Atlantic. Even in summer.
In the live action Popeye movie with Robin Williams, I seem to recall a scene in which he apparently rowed across an entire ocean by himself, so I know it is possible.
She is gonna need lots of spinach and hit the gym to work on those forearms.
You do know that Popeye is a fictional character and the Popeye movie is not a documentary. Robin Williams didn’t actually row a boat across an entire ocean. So that movie is irrelevant to whether or not it’s a possible thing to do.
That said two Norwegian-born Americans, Frank Samuelsen and George Harbo, where the first to successfully row across was the Atlantic in June 1896. It took them 55 days and 13 hours to get from Battery Park to the Isles of Scilly (They continued to row to Le Havre, France).
Wish upon a Star?
(Oh wait. Leonardo’s methods of transportation all guzzle fossil fuels.)
Consult the Goracle. Rub his ball and see what comes up?
(Oh wait. The ModSquad might snip that.)
Take a long walk off a short pier. Use your braids as a flotation device when you realize you can’t walk on water after all.
Consult the Goracle. Rub his ball and see what comes up?
(Oh wait. The ModSquad might snip that.)
I think Tipper beat them to it long ago.
True.
That’s why “ball” wasn’t plural.
Maybe get a ride on an oxygen/hydrogen fueled ICBM?
All that water vapor they produce won’t contribute to “Climate Change” since it’s “Carbon-Free”!
(Of course, all the world’s governments will need to be warned that bomb headed their way isn’t nuclear.)
Poor, Greta. She should fly home, and plant a tree when she arrives to make up for the CO2 she used.
Willis, if you see this please seriously consider using your sailing experience to help young Greta make her journey if that’s at all possible.
She actually strikes me as an honest and intelligent person who’s too young to have learned that you can’t trust everything you read.
What better chance to have a series of thoughtful discussions than during a long cross-Atlantic voyage, away from the media and the pressure to summarily dismiss any ideas that aren’t in line with what she perceives as “settled science”?
Nobody in his right mind sails across the North Atlantic in winter, much less takes a child along.
Take a look at the Plimsoll mark on a ship. It defines the maximum permissible load under various conditions. The lowest line (smallest permissible load) is W NA. It means “Winter North Atlantic”.
Smarten up Greta
Simply order that the conference be now held in San Francisco
This would be a great chance for President Trump to gain some woke cred by commanding the Navy to send a nuclear sub to pick her up and take her to Spain. I am sure she would be grateful for the Co2 free trip.
Take a flight. Buy solar cookers for refugees in Chad to offset the carbon footprint.
https://flygrn.com/carbon/calculate?type=return&seg%5B0%5D%5Bfrom%5D=LAX&seg%5B0%5D%5Bto%5D=MAD&persons=1&class=Y
She could trek to Kansas get sucked up by a tornado end up on the yellow brick road, which I believe goes directly to Madrid.
Well, once in Oz, all she’s needs do is click her ruby slippered heals 3 times and say “there’s no place like home” to return home. Sounds like her best carbon-free bet.
Seasoned travellers know that the secret to survival is flexibility. When your plans are disrupted you have to be prepared to make alternate arrangements to get where you want/need to go asap. If only she hadn’t painted herself into a corner by refusing to fly, Leo or another celebrity green friend would have been able to fire up the private jet and whisk her across to Madrid, no worries… and probably someone else could organise an all mod cons (wifi incl) place for her to safely stay while she big notes herself at the climate lovein.
By train to Alaska, by boat across the Bering Strait to Vladivostok, by Transsiberian railway to Europe, done.
Wasn’t she declared to be the new incarnation of Christ by some church lately? What’s the problem then? She can simply walk on the water and go wherever she likes. She will be a bit lonely as mere mortals cannot perform the same act and would have to accompany her in a rowboat.
The plea is a stunt. There is a massive PR and if needed, money machine behind Greta’s parents, and arranging travel is nothing, buttons, to these people. Still fools will line up.
You know that somehow, the family become very wealth over a short period somehow, magically.
You should read her mother’s book, they (parents) messed up the younger child too, not my opinion, read the book. The mother is imo highly neurotic.
This whole save hte planet thing, to this family is a proxy for saving the absolute mess that the family is (the mother’s description, not my opinion).
Boy oh boy, when Greta is no longer relevant, there is going to be one hell of a mental crash!
Carbon credits (“shifting”). As good as, or better than, carbon free. It’s how the Green revolution happens.
Can anybody seriously believe that Greta would set off for North and South America without having any idea how she was going to return to Europe? Especially given her public refusal to fly?
Of course I believe it. Her entire body of “work” makes it not just plausible but mandatory. Nothing she has done is rational or proceeded from actually examining the facts of reality. If anything, this was always the plan: concoct some reason to have to “plead for help” in order to gauge the depth of public support for her lunacy.
Use Justine Trudouche’s magic unicorn.
As the wind currents go from west to east a hot air balloon would suit your purposes admirably . You can fill the balloon with your anger, CO2 and the misinformation that you have retained.
I think it’s a fantastic idea that she go carbon free to the conference. And following her example all the other delegates should also row, swim, walk to the venue, which should be held in the open air. At night they should climb some trees, if they can, and sleep on the branches.
And during the day they can forage for food. No catered buffets for this crowd. That should leave very little time for the b.s. conference.
Well, a stupid offered to row her across the Strait of Georgia from Vancouver BC to Victoria BC, so she would not expend carbon travelling by ferry boat. Then he walked backward to offering to use a small sailboat instead. Yes, in winter when even the big ferry boats have difficulty some days.
Irresponsible I say.
Tip: so she doesn’t become a martyr, someone tell her that land travel from the US into South America is probably hazardous these days due to the criminals in some Central American countries.
BTW, beware that some claims about what she wants are false, such as the one from a Marxist city councillor in Victoria BC that she wanted to avoid expelling carbon to get to there from the mainland. She publicly denied that.
In the event, she did not come because she was too busy.