ProPublica Journo Sees What He Thinks Is The Positive Side Of California’s Rolling Blackouts

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October 23, 2019 6:29 PM ET

ProPublica reporter Abrahm Lustgarten suggested California’s rolling blackouts contain one silver lining: It highlights for people the gravity that awaits them if climate change is not addressed.

California’s largest public utility’s decision to shutter large sections of the energy grid forces citizens to notice what things will be like if climate change is not addressed, Lustgarten noted in a New York Times Magazine editorial Tuesday. He did remember to emphasize the blackouts are bad for a lot of people.

“But a mandatory blackout does have one radically positive effect,” he wrote. “By suddenly withdrawing electrical power — the invisible lifeblood of our unsustainable economic order — PG&E has made the apocalyptic future of the climate crisis immediate and visceral for some of the nation’s most comfortable people.”

Lustgarten added: “It is easy to ignore climate change in the bosom of the developed world. But you can’t fail to notice when the lights go out.” (RELATED: What Do Rolling Blackouts And Sky-High Gas Prices Mean For Gov Newsom’s Job As Governor?)

“The blackouts have laid bare the uncomfortable fact that the infrastructure we’ve built and maintained over the course of many decades isn’t matched to the threats we face in our rapidly unfolding climate emergency,” he noted.

Lustgarten’s comments came after California’s public utility Pacific Gas & Electric began a days-long power shutoff on Oct.9 to curb the risk of wildfires in the northern part of the state. Democratic California Gov. Gavin Newsom, the former mayor of San Francisco, is dealing with several problems as he struggles with PG&E’s move.

Power went out for 513,000 northern California homes and businesses Wednesday morning, USA Today reported, and roughly 234,000 customers were expected to lose power later Wednesday night. Parts of Northern California struggled to deal with massive wildfires in 2018, which torched large tracks of land and killed several people.

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sendergreen
October 24, 2019 10:06 am

No, what it does show is that after 20 + years of Climate Action, you can see your future.

The electricity provision that citizens of the old soviet “republics” got. a few hours a day, a couple of days a week.

Maybe.

Big T
Reply to  sendergreen
October 24, 2019 11:08 am

I’m putting 50 grand on Generac stock today!

Jimmie Dollard
Reply to  Big T
October 24, 2019 11:46 am

Your late. Up 50% since Jan.

Pillage Idiot
Reply to  Jimmie Dollard
October 24, 2019 2:06 pm

A day late and a dollard short!

ATheoK
Reply to  Jimmie Dollard
October 24, 2019 6:19 pm

What percentage of the market now has generators?

i.e., the market can keep rising so long as demand is high.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Big T
October 24, 2019 7:30 pm

Yes, that’s the company, Generac. They started advertising in Australia last year IIRC. I would not be surprised if they are marketing elsewhere like the UK.

Bill T
Reply to  Big T
October 25, 2019 3:21 am

Great generators- and “economical” (cheap). Bought mine (after the 2008 ice storm (Maine) when we lost power for about a week. Used it just last week for a 14 hour power loss. Started on second pull after being inactive for nearly a year. As with all small engines I use mid grade gas with stabilizers for storage and ethanol. I run my well pump, fridge and freezer with no issues along with some computer equipment (gotta have wifi and charging stations for all the other stuff). With a wood stove and gas range, absolutely no issues. I did run completely separate wiring for emergency power, so I am completely separate from the grid.

dmacleo
Reply to  Bill T
October 25, 2019 1:49 pm

got one here too. being on central maine power means always keeping a generator in good shape and….possibly having a spare….

Luke
Reply to  Big T
October 25, 2019 9:27 am

I would. It’s CEO was pushing the warming hoax on FNC Business a few weeks ago: https://www.foxbusiness.com/energy/backup-generator-ceo-climate-change-california-pge-outages-stock

What would make him more money than destroying the grid with lots of fake energy ‘cuz climate!’?

Pat Frank
Reply to  sendergreen
October 24, 2019 11:48 am

Right. Rolling blackouts is what everyone will see if so-called climate change is addressed.

Greg
Reply to  Pat Frank
October 24, 2019 11:53 pm

That is certainly what will happen if we stop using fossil fuels and go “carbon neutral”.

The current situation though is nothing to do with “global warming” and all to do with bad forestry management policy and PG&E not maintaining their infrastructure.

Instead of squandering resources on hypothetical fake problems in a hundred years time they mus be spent on addressing REAL problems today and building resilience.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Greg
October 25, 2019 3:27 am

yup bet that idiot doent LIVE in California either.
Aus wil be having the same as our coal n gas gen cant keep up supply and the wind n pv fails us this summer again.

Russ Wood
Reply to  Pat Frank
October 25, 2019 1:33 am

Rolling blackouts (called ‘load shedding’ in South Africa) are what you see when you give control of your electricity monopoly to ‘comrades’ who don’t know the first thing about preventative maintenance! See a SA article about just ONE power station’s troubles…
https://www.ee.co.za/article/medupi-magic-fails-eskom-and-south-africa-the-stuff-of-nightmares.html

Rocketscientist
Reply to  sendergreen
October 24, 2019 12:39 pm

“The blackouts have laid bare the uncomfortable fact that the infrastructure we’ve built and maintained over the course of many decades isn’t matched to the threats we face in our rapidly unfolding climate emergency,”

The issue as I see it is that the infrastructure HAS NOT BEEN MAINTAINED over the course of many decades and that is source of the rolling blackouts.
Yesterday it was bridge repair and neglect being blamed on climate change.
The emergency is due to decades of slothful neglect calling for a reckoning.

IMHO the root cause is we have made the world too easy to live in and it does not culled the idiots faster than they can breed.

Elvis Clark
Reply to  Rocketscientist
October 24, 2019 2:54 pm

Boy that’s a fun last sentence: “…the root cause is we have made the world too easy to live in and it does not cull the idiots faster than they can breed.”

This is my quote of the year so far. Made me laugh in a black gallows type way. :>)

RMT
Reply to  sendergreen
October 24, 2019 10:17 pm

And don’t forget, that California wants everyone in electric cars. What better way to control the populace than everyone in electric cars and then blackouts when the government wants it.

Greg
Reply to  sendergreen
October 24, 2019 11:55 pm

CA is run like a soviet republic, hardly surprising it’s going the same way.

Mark Broderick
October 24, 2019 10:13 am

The “blame” lies squarely on the Liberal “Progressive’s” mandates and crippling laws that have Hogtied energy companies in ‘La La Land unless they conform to a “Green Utopia” agenda of fantasy ! IMHO

Charles Higley
Reply to  Mark Broderick
October 24, 2019 5:31 pm

It’s so cool. They are going to cause blackouts now to shock people regarding the bad conditions that they hope to create later on, as AGW does not exist, but their policies are guaranteed to create. It’s like being spanked with a belt for doing nothing because your psychopath parent is sure you something wrong in the future and they will see to it.

Nick Schroeder
October 24, 2019 10:13 am

If PG&E could clear cut around their lines and equipment the problem would most likely go away.

Spuyten Duyvil
Reply to  Nick Schroeder
October 24, 2019 11:37 am

With a 100′ wide gravel road underneath high voltage lines in PG&E owned right-of-way, that one small percentage of risk would be mostly mitigated. Smaller distribution lines adjacent to roadways in urban or suburban areas would be a bigger challenge. PG&E does not own the land underneath the lines, and prior regulation has limited their ability to even trim adjacent to them. Clear cutting a fire lane wide enough so no tree could fall on the lines would be impossible. Weed control throughout the year would be necessary along the entire length of their transmission and distribution lines.

Kaiser Derden
Reply to  Spuyten Duyvil
October 24, 2019 12:54 pm

they are all in public right of ways and yes they could cut the trees back there if the crazies would let them …

Kevin
Reply to  Kaiser Derden
October 24, 2019 1:43 pm

Yes than can and they already do it. The local power company has already been thru my neighborhood to trim the trees/brush back from underneath their power lines. It happens at least every two years. So if they can trim the trees/brush back in residential areas then why can’t they trim them back in rural areas? Do the crazies only care about the rural trees/brush and not the urban ones?

walt
Reply to  Kevin
October 25, 2019 9:16 am

Trimming tress is a make work kick the can down the road solution. Clear cut immediately adjacent land along the right of way. If they don’t it will burn.

Robert W Turner
Reply to  Spuyten Duyvil
October 24, 2019 1:14 pm

Utility companies outside of LALA Land have no difficulty in keeping limbs clear from all scales of utility lines.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Spuyten Duyvil
October 25, 2019 3:29 am

well theres a shitload of people needing work…try work for the dole like Aus did

Nick Schroeder
Reply to  Nick Schroeder
October 24, 2019 3:54 pm

So how are the fires started?

What is PG&E doing/not doing that caused the past fires and how do rolling blackouts help?

First step in finding a solution is correctly identifying the problem.

LarryD
Reply to  Nick Schroeder
October 24, 2019 10:18 pm

Fires are natural to California. The crazies prevent the proper forest management that would prevent tinder from building up, and the woods have been allowed to spread where they were kept back before.

Sunny
October 24, 2019 10:32 am

Everything is bloody climate change 😐 I’m sick and tired of it. It rains, snows, sunny day, Oh no climate change. Bridges will fall, all the ice will melt, unless we stop all use of fossil fuels, its all true because the u.n. told us so 😐 Why are the scientific community who know the true about weather systems not making more noise? If xr can shut down london, why can’t we shut down main roads so we can force the truth on to the main media stage?

Elle Webber
Reply to  Sunny
October 24, 2019 11:06 am

Oh, Sunny, the media wouldn’t report it anyway. Here in Canada, the press has reported exactly zilch on the Dutch farmers blocking main roads in their country. We get every movement of SGT, and all the XR protests in the UK, but the Dutch farmers are deemed “not newsworthy”. If it doesn’t fit the approved narrative, the media will not report on it. That scares me a lot more than any supposed 1.5 degree of heat ever will.

Reply to  Sunny
October 24, 2019 11:15 am

Quoting “Sunny” as a climate alarmist would:
“Bridges will fall, all the ice will melt, unless we stop all use of fossil fuels, its all true because the u.n. told us so.”

Bobby Hebb once wrote a great song named “Sunny” in the 1960s — if you have never heard it I’d say it was among the top 100 songs of all time:

Sunny
Reply to  Richard Greene
October 24, 2019 1:58 pm

Richard Greene

Good song, its used in a advert and is very catchy lol

Philo
Reply to  Richard Greene
October 25, 2019 8:42 am

It’s catchy and uplifting. Hard to find that these days with so much pessimism floating around.

B d Clark
Reply to  Sunny
October 24, 2019 11:24 am

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=gfs&region=eu&pkg=asnow24&runtime=2019102412&fh=18 it’s your lucky night sunny look at all that global warming white stuff across the UK and Europe run the projection,shame even the UK weather channels dont show this,radar shows UK Scotland snow showers all night.

HD Hoese
Reply to  Sunny
October 24, 2019 12:01 pm

Sunny–
Are they doing it for money, ideology, or both, or more? Also tiring in otherwise optimistic scientific papers. In “Assessing the recovery of an Antarctic predator from historical exploitation” conclusion “Protection led to a strong recovery [western South Atlantic humpback whales] and the current population is estimated to be at 93% (95% PI = 73–100%) of its pre-exploitation size.” However, “Recent studies have proposed that krill abundance is decreasing and krill distribution is shifting due to climate-driven processes.” It’s a model, but has some real numbers. Save the krill, hunt the whales? Open access.

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsos.190368

B d Clark
October 24, 2019 10:32 am

He also fails to mention the mandatory black outs are not because of a failing generation but a failing of the transmission lines due to lack of maintenance and upgrades ,a fear of live transmission lines falling and or touching trees and scrub during high wind weather.he justifies his remarks by the way of climate change is he admitting power will be cut if no progress is made on climate change? Exactly what progress does he want? If he gets progress does this mean the power will stay on? This amounts to nothing more than a opportunistic threat
On the back of the lie of global warming (until the IPCC change there mandate that’s exactly what it is) WHAT Was the power situation last year in one of the coldest prolonged winters in the USA ,is he also ignoring real climate change eg a GSM ,lustgarten is scaremongering in exactly the same way as XR do.

Al Miller
October 24, 2019 10:42 am

So, if an imaginary problem is not addressed there will be blackouts – and locusts no doubt? Begone fools.

Joel O'Bryan
October 24, 2019 10:45 am

PG&E rolling black-out situation was caused by Climate Change policy not Climate Change.

PG&E spent several decades pursuing renewable energy unicorns directed by Democratic Party political powers working for special interests and takng their campaign cash in payback. PG&E ignored infrastructure maintenance as a result of altered priorities for their customers. They were also a victim of Cal’s onerous brush and forest thinning/clearing maintenance, as much a victim of that as the folks of Paradise who lost loved ones and homes and businesses and jobs.

Make no mistake. The threat to everything we cherish and our future is from Climate Change policy, not climate change. Stated more directly, the threat are the Democrats, their brainwashed-deranged supporters, and their special interests supporters, mainly the GreenSlime billionaires.

DCE
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
October 24, 2019 11:59 am

Maintenance wasn’t so much ignored as it was banned and/or underfunded. PG&E was effectively banned from cutting back brush from the rights of way (which also made maintenance more difficult and expensive). Because of the billions the utility had to devote to “green” energy projects mandated by California’s government, PG&E used money the cash in their maintenance budget for those “green” projects mandates.

It isn’t much different from cutting the operating and equipment budget for you local fire department, then getting upset when your house burns to the ground because the fire department didn’t have a single fire engine in running condition, and even if they had one, they didn’t have any fuel to run it.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  DCE
October 24, 2019 1:30 pm

This is another example of the Arsonist-FireFighter governance mentality of Liberals.

Their ideology directly affects the policies that then enable to conditions to occur that lead to predictable calamities and crises they then can exploit.
The inevitable crisis (the fire) is then exploited (riding to the rescue) by the Liberals to propose more “well-intentioned” Liberal policies that only address symptoms, not the underlying policy causes.

The home-less explosion crisis occurring in “Deep Blue” cities across the nation is another clear example of the Left’s Arsonist-Firefighter mentality.

Even in Texas, “Deep Blue” Austin is now facing the beginnings of this homeless explosion problem:
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2019/10/02/gov-greg-abbott-austin-fix-homelessness-crisis-nov-1-state-will-step/

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
October 24, 2019 11:36 pm

Leftys are either evil, if they understand their own behaviour, or stupid. Yep.

Robert W Turner
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
October 24, 2019 1:19 pm

It’s going to be the straw that broke the camel’s back. Our economy already lacks in any semblance of a Free Market Society, and is more accurately described as a socialist-mercantile economy. It’s only a matter of time before what is left of our Capitalist economy can no longer support this broken system.

Mark
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
October 24, 2019 3:25 pm

Finally! Someone called the writer to task. This is not a PGE caused problem. The issue lies squarely in Sacramento. This is the fruit of years of leftie prevention of maintenance, and squeezing the utility to deferred maintenance. Add to this a state mandated poor forest policy. Do not let the left pass the buck. This is entirely caused by California government policy. They have POORLY micromanaged their forests, resources, utilities. This is their reward. Unfortunately, the voting public will be fed the standard line of big business doing it to them again.

Gamecock
Reply to  Mark
October 25, 2019 7:15 am

PG&E was bankrupted by claims from last year for fires allegedly started by their lines. Give them legal liability, they act accordingly.

The blackouts are political. They are caused by the government. Government made the risk too high to keep the power on.

Rick
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
October 24, 2019 3:40 pm

Indeed may of the problems are a result of CC policy, but that’s not a bug – it’s a feature. More problems, more government solutions. Rinse and repeat all the way into Communist nirvana.

Gamecock
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
October 25, 2019 7:10 am

“PG&E rolling black-out situation”

Not rolling black-out. Just black-out. Nothing ‘rolling’ about it. They cut the power and left it off.

Doc Chuck
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
October 25, 2019 3:30 pm

For some reason Abrahm neglected to reveal what he himself has done/is prepared to do to personally throttle back his own dependence on those vile fossil fuels. Nor did he mention that once intermittent wind and solar renewable sources become a significant fraction of total electric generation, recurrent blackouts can be anticipated with regularity. But no worries, I can put him in touch with someone who has a horse-drawn Amish buggy for sale so he can lead the way to biofueled sustainability in his own neighborhood.

Erny72
October 24, 2019 10:47 am

“ProPublica reporter Abrahm Lustgarten suggested California’s rolling blackouts contain one silver lining: It highlights for people the gravity that awaits them if climate change is not addressed.”
Maybe in opposite-world, but back in the real world that should read;
A bloke with a grip on reality suggested California’s rolling blackouts contain one silver lining: It highlights for people the gravity that awaits them if gullible warming friendly energy policy is not addressed.

October 24, 2019 10:47 am

California’s rolling blackouts contain one silver lining: It highlights for people the gravity that awaits them if climate change IS addressed.

More windmills and solar panels = more brownouts and blackouts !

Yet another clueless reporter !
.
.
“Politicians and environmental campaigners are ignorant of the technicalities
of energy supply, or wish to ignore them.”

” politicians) may have the power to change the laws of the land, but not to change the laws of physics.”
http://elonionbloggle.blogspot.com/2019/10/uk-electrical-engineer-with-39-years.html

jon
Reply to  Richard Greene
October 30, 2019 9:19 pm

There actually is a silver lining. People will become preppers, and preppers will learn how to prep better, so that when our whole civilization falls, the people of California will be ready. And yet another silver lining – the blackouts breed conservatives.

Fritz Brohn
October 24, 2019 10:51 am

Here’s a novel idea. Why not clear the areas underneath the power lines of underbrush that can catch fire should a power line break?

Reply to  Fritz Brohn
October 24, 2019 11:19 am

Brohn
Too expensive even using CA illegal aliens.
But not if they put all the CA homeless people to work.

Gator
Reply to  Richard Greene
October 24, 2019 11:55 am

It’s not too costly, California has the money, the problem is California’s priorities.

I’ve said for decades that it makes zero sense for us to still be stringing wires from poles. It’s time for transmission lines to leave the 19th century, and get with the times. Of course there are areas where burying lines is not an option, and in those areas conduits can be employed.

When I built my home 20 years ago, I paid to have my lines buried. If I can afford it, so can California.

Eki
Reply to  Gator
October 24, 2019 12:57 pm

In Finland, government made utilities bury gables. Then they sold the government own utility to foreign investors, to get money flowing in. Now the transmission cost is 3x to what the electricity costs

Gator
Reply to  Eki
October 24, 2019 3:35 pm

That was just stupidity.

We have a local city here that went 100% underground utilities. They pay no more than I do.

walt
Reply to  Eki
October 25, 2019 8:44 am

Underground cables are less prone to damage from wind storms, lightning, traffic accidents and wild fire. Over head wire transmission is a maintenance nightmare.

Gator
Reply to  walt
October 25, 2019 8:53 am

Power lines are also ugly as sin.

“Make sure you get those power lines in the photo”, said no one ever.

Mike McMillan
Reply to  Gator
October 24, 2019 3:50 pm

Burying transmission lines near a live California fault might be asking for trouble.

Gator
Reply to  Mike McMillan
October 24, 2019 4:12 pm

It has been considered, and solutions found. Engineers are not climate experts, they actually know what they are doing.

CapitalistRoader
Reply to  Gator
October 29, 2019 6:41 am

It’s not too costly, California has the money…

CA is close to bankruptcy:

Ranking the States by Fiscal Condition 2018 Edition

Gator
Reply to  CapitalistRoader
October 29, 2019 9:52 am

If I spent money on a lot of stupid sh!t, I would be bankrupt too. California is the worlds fifth largest economy. They have the money, they just spend it like idiots.

Reply to  Richard Greene
October 24, 2019 12:13 pm

I commend you for thinking of taking out two birds with one stone.

However, when there is an entire flock consuming your seed corn, somewhat more drastic measures are indicated, to eliminate the root of the problem.

Empty out the government offices for the work force.

walt
Reply to  Fritz Brohn
October 25, 2019 9:12 am

It is not natural and the old CCC from the days of FDR is not politically correct.

NZ Willy
October 24, 2019 10:51 am

Getting mugged by reality didn’t work for this guy. Maybe for him, reality wears a Groucho Marx mask. Wait, did *his* power go out? Betting not.

Curious George
Reply to  NZ Willy
October 24, 2019 12:12 pm

No mugging. His ideological zeal does not get confused by reality.

BobM
October 24, 2019 10:55 am

“But a mandatory blackout does have one radically positive effect,” he wrote. “By suddenly withdrawing electrical power — the invisible lifeblood of our unsustainable economic order — PG&E has made the apocalyptic future of the climate crisis immediate and visceral for some of the nation’s most comfortable people.”

But isn’t it really just the opposite?

No power will become MORE the norm when the sun doesn’t shine and wind doesn’t blow if the “climate crisis” idiots get their way. With rolling blackouts there is at least a plan and an announcement. What notice does the wind give?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  BobM
October 24, 2019 12:30 pm

““But a mandatory blackout does have one radically positive effect,” he wrote.”

I hear California Governor Newsome’s approval ratings are dropping.

I don’t recall Calfornia doing rolling blackouts in the past. I guess they had a handle on things back then.

The electric utility in my area can come on my property and trim just about any tree they think needs trimming. They don’t need my permission.

California and PG&E ought to solve two problems at once by building a number of woodchip-fired electrical powerplants and supplying them with the wood that is removed from around the power lines.

walt
Reply to  Tom Abbott
October 25, 2019 8:34 am

Control over the public requires small incremental steps. Five hundred thousand at a time does not disturb the other 30 plus million enough to cause a serious up roar.

Mark Broderick
October 24, 2019 10:57 am

“California’s largest utility company begins its second round of preemptive blackouts”

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6097376962001/?playlist_id=5622526903001#sp=show-clips

..D’OH ! In my humble opinion……

ike Lowe
October 24, 2019 10:57 am

What a great suggestion. I’m sure the fossil-fuel distributing companies will realise that they have the same argument available to them – just shut off supplies for a couple of days. Especially to Kalifornia!

Joel Snider
October 24, 2019 10:58 am

What this article is actually highlighting is the reason for the blackouts in the first place – the opportunity for hack propaganda made to order for slithering, exploitive Goebbels-clones like Abrahm Lustgarten

DMacKenzie
October 24, 2019 11:01 am

Or it will convince people by inconvenience and tax or utility bills that weather dependent electricity generation is a bad idea compared to reliable natural gas, nuclear and hydro options. The true cost of “renewables” is only apparent when you have to buy batteries to store the electrons instead of using grid reserve as fake storage.

Kevin R.
October 24, 2019 11:07 am

To me it shows where Statism leads.

Gary
Reply to  Kevin R.
October 24, 2019 11:10 am

Always and absolutely.

JerryC
October 24, 2019 11:21 am

But the blackouts have nothing to do with climate and everything to do with PG&E’s greed! They are the ones that refused to replace old transmission lines, now those lines are so old and the insulation is in such bad shape that every time the wind blows above a certain speed it causes the lines to spark. Which is why they have been doing the blackout thing during high winds!

Robert W Turner
Reply to  JerryC
October 24, 2019 1:25 pm

Right, much like it was the greedy oil companies that allowed MTBE to dissolve into ground water after the all-knowing ministry of the environment forced them to blend it into gasoline.

Terry Shipman
Reply to  JerryC
October 24, 2019 3:45 pm

The line from the pole to the house is insulated. Primary and higher voltage lines are generally NEVER insulated. They are bare wire. The issue is California restricting the electric utilities ability to trim brush.

Gary Wescom
Reply to  JerryC
October 24, 2019 7:39 pm

Greed! That is getting old. PG&E does not set their maintenance budget, the CPUC does. PG&E would happily replace old power poles and towers if the CPUC would allow them the money. The way it used to work was PG&E would issue bonds for the funding and pay them back over decades. The CPUC hasn’t allowed that for many years and instead forces them to issue bonds to finance renewable power and electric car facilities. PG&E would much rather get back into the business of being a gas and electric utility, not deep pockets for the state legislature.

Remember, PG&E’s power lines did not start but one fire. It was the crap hitting the power lines. In other words, under past laws it was the fault of land owners or whoever caused the fire. However, years ago a judge in California ruled that since cities and counties contracted power and gas line rights-of-way, the
utilities were therefore government agencies and subject to the Inverse Condemnation law. Under this law, whose fault it was that the fire started does not matter, only that fire started as a result of the rights-of-way. PG&E has no legal defense under that law regardless of how a fire started. It does not matter that PG&E has little control over the environment around their power lines. It does not matter that nobody wants to pay to underground power lines.

George Daddis
October 24, 2019 11:27 am

It highlights for people the gravity that awaits them if climate change is not addressed.”

Presumably by “people” he means Californians.

Now Abrahm, tell us specifically what Californians should be addressing, collectively or individually, that would make any measurable difference in the context of what China and India are doing?

Stephen Skinner
Reply to  George Daddis
October 24, 2019 1:02 pm

Between 2008 and 2018 the US used roughly 2,250,000,000 tonnes of oil per year. For the same period China started at 2,250,000,000 tonnes and n 2018 it was 3,300,000,000 billion tonnes. In Sweden where Greta childhood was stolen they have been using 53,000,000 million tonnes each year.
Each year the UK consumes about 200,000,000 tonnes of oil while China’s yearly increase averages half that at 100,000,000 tonnes.

ResourceGuy
October 24, 2019 11:33 am

And some piggies are more equal than others at publishing dumb things.

Zigmaster
October 24, 2019 11:37 am

One state in US has spent a gazillion dollars trying to change the weather. They have now got the most expensive and unreliable power in the country. And the conclusion is we need to spend gazillions more.
I would think the logical conclusion might be to do something different or nothing . You can’t be worse off.

ResourceGuy
October 24, 2019 11:38 am

Who knew that climate change would cause Californians to move out to their RVs to live off propane.

Surely there’s a peer reviewed climate pub that says that out of the some 10 million cheap climate extension pubs out there to date.

William
October 24, 2019 11:39 am

Next up… California to tax home generators as a threat to the beloved Gaia.

Michael Graebner
October 24, 2019 11:59 am

not a good thing for the guy whose life-sustaining oxygen was cut off and who died within 12 minutes. but I am sure the elites will think he died in a just cause.

Windsong
October 24, 2019 12:03 pm

If we could magically lower CO2 in the atmosphere to that magical 350 ppm, what exactly would happen to the wildfire season in California? I would suggest absolutely nothing. The
100 years of population growth and urban expansion has moved millions of people into areas that have routinely burned every few years. California was dry, is dry and will be dry. People and their technology (power lines, cars) can start fires in a dry climate. Then the fire departments and various state and federal agencies rush to put out any new ignition, contributing to a massive fuel buildup. Many fires in California this fall started the normal way; car fires, target shooting, arson and oddball stuff like a dumped load of burning trash.

ResourceGuy
October 24, 2019 12:04 pm

Where is the Warren Plan for the Kalifornia problem?

mwhite
October 24, 2019 12:14 pm

I found it

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/12/20/jerry-brown-vetoed-enhanced-requirements-for-undergrounding-power-lines-blames-ca-wildfires-on-nebulous-climate-change/

“In September 2016 California Governor Brown vetoed Senate Bill 1463

which enhanced requirements for the CPUC and state Forestry and Fire Protection to facilitate the undergrounding of power lines in high fire risk areas across the stately by requiring the states involvement with cities and counties facing high fire risks and by requiring the prioritization of high fire risk regions.”

c1ue
October 24, 2019 12:40 pm

I disagree with the notion that either climate change or climate policy is the reason for these blackouts.
PG & E spends enormous amounts of money on lobbying rather than doing their jobs.
The City of San Francisco just offered $2.5B to buy out PG & E’s infrastructure in SF so they could take over distribution, but PG & E refused. Wolf Street has an article with pictures on just how well maintained this SF PG & E infrastructure is.
Nor is this the only example. Not long ago, there was an explosion from a pipeline in the suburbs of the Bay Area that killed a bunch of people.
I’ve seen links that showed PG & E paying $14m+ in 1983 and 1984 just for lobbying the California Public Utility Commission – more than the oil driller’s association.
The reality is that PG & E is just another corporation that focuses more on paying huge dividends than delivering to their charter as a public utility.

Tom Abbott
October 24, 2019 12:41 pm

As a practical point, who would want to move to California under the present circumstances?

This can’t be good for business in California. The exodus will get bigger.

The California Democrats are going to have trouble funding illegal alien healthcare what with numerous Californians leaving the state and taking their money with them.

We have Venezuela as an example of how not to govern, and now we are going to have California as another example of how not to govern.

Socialists/Leftists don’t have the answers. For anything.

Andy Pattullo
October 24, 2019 12:41 pm

Very much like claiming famine is exactly what people should expect if we insist on improving agriculture.

Petit_Barde
October 24, 2019 12:46 pm

So, what this clown is telling us is that decades of catastrophic grid maintenance and forest management have induced climate change and all its usual bad consequences (blackouts, fires, …).

The climate clown show must go on !

Robert W Turner
October 24, 2019 1:12 pm

These Marxist idiots have been proclaiming the end of society as we know it for at least 200 years now. Turns out that idiots don’t easily catch on to intellectual fraud, even after a few hundred years. The bad thing is, these idiots are so adamant in their beliefs that economic meltdown is a self fulfilling prophecy in places where they outnumber the rational.

BobM
Reply to  Robert W Turner
October 24, 2019 6:57 pm

The bad thing is, these idiots… are able to procreate.

Bruce Cobb
October 24, 2019 1:14 pm

Alarmists say the darndest things, don’t they? Too bad Art Linkletter is no longer around.

yarpos
October 24, 2019 1:47 pm

So they dont need to do this in other States. They dont need to do this in other countries. But if they do it in California its an indication of climate , rather than local mismanagement. This guy is a genius.

fxk
October 24, 2019 1:51 pm

Actually, the rolling blackouts are what socialist and communist countries experience NOW.
Pass the Green New Deal and spotty electricity, empty grocery store shelves, and breadlines.

Rod Evans
October 24, 2019 1:59 pm

What the Californian blackouts really reveals is what happens when all other energy options have been banned no oil, no gas, no wood burning and all you are left with is electricity, you had better be sure the supply is constant and not intermittent.
You had also better be sure, the suppliers are not prone to political pressure that leads to the shutting down of the only allowed energy supply available to you.
Putting all your eggs into one basket has never been regarded as a safe option….

October 24, 2019 2:22 pm

California’s rolling blackouts are a warning of what will happen everywhere if the hysterical lunacy of “Climate Change” frenzy is allowed to permeate society.

ResourceGuy
October 24, 2019 2:41 pm

Why have blackouts based on wind if wind speeds are dropping? because the models said so?

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/12/05/study-global-wind-speed-dropping-wind-farms-victim-of-atmospheric-stilling/

Ed Zuiderwijk
October 24, 2019 3:31 pm

“Cart before horse” comes to mind. Mr PleasureGarden lives in an arse over elbow universe.

capitalistroader1
October 24, 2019 3:53 pm

But a mandatory blackout does have one radically positive effect,” he wrote. “By suddenly withdrawing electrical power — the invisible lifeblood of our unsustainable economic order —

That invisible lifeblood is likely the the same Dark Web source of the horrible videos that make Hillary lose the election:

I’m going to show you in these flashing videos that appear and then disappear and they’re on the dark web and nobody can find them, but you’re going to see them and you’re going to see that person doing these horrible things.
President Hillary Clinton (D-Pretend), 17 Oct ’19

Be afraid. Nobody can find them and you’re going to see them.

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  capitalistroader1
October 25, 2019 2:06 am

Well, it’s hearly Halloween. What do you expect?

RonK
October 24, 2019 4:13 pm

I haven’t read all the above article so someone might have covered this. the problem isn’t in the generation of the power the problem is in the transmission of the power. even if they were going to go 100 % renewable(I use at term loosely) the transmission of the power will remain the same.

WXcycles
October 24, 2019 4:52 pm

Less kW hours on yer bill though.

What would Greta do?

Larry Hamlin
October 24, 2019 5:43 pm

This article was written by an extremely ignorant climate alarmist propagandists.

California wildfires are out of control because for decades the state failed to maintain healthy forests and allowed environmental extremists to delay, prevent or make too costly needed actions to maintain the states forests as addressed in detail by the Legislative Analyst report on this topic released in April 2018.

Climate change had no impact whatsoever in creating the state’s wildfire debacle which is solely driven by California’s incompetent government.

October 24, 2019 6:19 pm

So let’s see if I understand: The blackouts are good because they will show people how bad things will be if we DO NOT do more of what caused the blackout? Alice. Rabbit hole. 10/6.

Tom Schaefer
October 24, 2019 6:23 pm

I’ll give you a clear positive for the rolling black-outs: At least a few million people are taking their first essential preps to surviving and EMP. Now, get ready for the black out to last 9 months and be part of the <5% survivors.

roaddog
October 24, 2019 7:03 pm

The California blackouts are a demonstration project for the potential effects of The Green New Deal. This journalist is confused.

EastBayLarry
Reply to  roaddog
October 24, 2019 9:48 pm

Exactly my thought. This is the “training” period for the eventual 100% renewable energy plan.

Tim Beatty
October 24, 2019 7:45 pm

The rolling blackouts are because of mismanaged forests and unchecked litigation. PG&E isn’t reducing risk of fire, it’s reducing the chance it gets sued for fires. The fires are still there. That’s because environmental whackos think that thinning the forest of fuel is a bad thing.

Age of Reason
October 24, 2019 8:41 pm

Climate? No! PG&E? No! Rampant ignorance among environmental activists and Cali politicians, You betcha! These controlling interests seek to obtain a mythical pristine ‘natural’ primordial woodland, without human impact or influence. This absurd goal is impossible amidst a thriving human population.

Natural forces; wind, water, and fire, need to be acknowledged and either managed or adapted to, to protect the populace and its infrastructure. California authorities should look to Europe for time-tested methods. The German Black Forest, for example covers many square miles. For centuries it has provided reliable firewood (bio-fuel), lumber for construction and crafts, with recreation and agriculture areas intermixed. These lands are jointly managed by private and public interests. There are similar areas in the Scandinavian countries.

John Sandhofner
October 24, 2019 9:07 pm

Apples and oranges comparison. Bogus. The more likely scenario is conversion to 100% reliablity on solar and wind will result in power outages when it is night and/or when the wind stops blowing. That is a truer likihood. It is not partical to use batteries to make up the difference given the present battery technology.

Merovign
October 24, 2019 10:03 pm

Climate Change causes price controls and over-regulation? Maybe we *should* do something about that.

The PUC is basically a blight. I can’t imagine why anyone would accept the job of running PG&E under these circumstances.

KilgoreHoover
October 25, 2019 2:44 am

What are they complaining about? This is what they wanted. Shutting down those evil CO2-producing power plants was the goal. PG&E just advanced the timetable a bit. Californians should embrace the suck and just keep the power off. No better time than now, right? Think of the polar bears and the bees. Sure, there will be an adjustment period. The old and very young will probably die, especially with winter coming on. But what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger. Quitters never win, and winners never quit. There will probably be some rioting, maybe some looting, a tiny bit of arson. A wee squib of murder and rape. But you gotta break some eggs to make an omelette, and it’ll probably be over quickly. And then it’ll be paradise on earth. Just think: No more cars polluting the air, no more loud air conditioners polluting the silence at night, no more factories belching noxious chemicals into the atmosphere, no more crammed emergency rooms, no more rude cashiers at supermarkets, no more long lines at Starbucks. It’ll be swell!

GREG in Houston
October 25, 2019 10:25 am

visceral
/ˈvɪs(ə)r(ə)l/

adjective

relating to deep inward feelings rather than to the intellect.
“the voters’ visceral fear of change”

JEHILL
October 25, 2019 11:05 am

One Silver lining of CA blackouts:

Is California will stop being the largest state in the Union and the world’s sixth largest economy.

the caustic lining:

The bad effect will be all the Californians that transplant to other states and take the their misguided form of government all the time to the other states.

I am really hoping for a rephrasing of, “Solution to pollution is dilution.” in political ideological terms. But we all know Hoping is Audacious….

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