New Scientist: UK University Academics Marching with Extinction Rebellion

Extinction Rebellion, ‘swarming roadblocks’. DAVID HOLT [CC BY 2.0], via Wikimedia Commons

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Climate scientists are fed up with nobody taking them seriously.

UK scientists join the Extinction Rebellion climate change protests

ENVIRONMENT 7 October 2019
By  Lilian Anekwe

Charlie Gardner, a conservation scientist at the University of Kent, says he joined the organisation because he felt that his professional responsibility extended beyond “just studying and describing” the impact of climate change on biodiversity.

“We know what to do to save species, but the UK government is not giving us the funding to do it. I’ve done everything I possibly can professionally and personally, but none of that has worked, it’s all been a drop in the ocean. For me as a scientist this is necessary – and it is going to work.”

Jennifer Rudd, a scientist at a UK university, says she had no choice but to join Extinction Rebellion “given everything I know about climate change”.

Lee, who didn’t wish to give his full name, says he worked for a decade in climate science, but “we are now reaching the tipping point that we’ve always been fearful of”.

“It’s almost to the point when we can’t reverse it. This is our last chance. The social contract with the government has been broken and now there’s nothing left to do but rebel.”

Read more: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2219008-uk-scientists-join-the-extinction-rebellion-climate-change-protests/

Imagine if all the eco-economists, conservation scientists and climate modellers joined Extinction Rebellion and threatened to withdraw their services from society. How would we all cope?

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Mike Bryant
October 8, 2019 4:46 am

The more fossil fuels are used by developing countries, the quicker they will be developed countries and the less likely they will want to lose their lives and fortunes to war… as long as we, and they, can beat the deep state, that is.

Serge Wright
October 8, 2019 4:51 am

Having read their email exchanges from Climate Gate, what do they really expect ?

ozspeaksup
October 8, 2019 5:08 am

translated to: I couldnt get any radio or media piccys and fame
so Im gatecrashing exreb to get myself “famous”..or arrested;-)

Ed Zuiderwijk
October 8, 2019 5:19 am

Among real scientsits ‘New Scientist’ was, in my days, often referred to as ‘The Stupid’.

JN
October 8, 2019 5:24 am
Reply to  JN
October 8, 2019 5:42 am

Guterres knows full well what Bank of England chief Mark Carney promised at the Summit – unlimited green synthetic credit, a veritable tsunami, from around 130 banks, totally out of the control of national governments. He and his fellow true financial greens call it “regime change”.
I’ll bet Guterres is banking of the UN dream of world government, Keynes’ (digital) Bancor currency.

Since this was mooted at the FED Jackson Hole pow-wow, it could be why Pres. Trump is less than amused with FED policy.

JN
Reply to  bonbon
October 8, 2019 6:26 am

Incredible!

Reply to  JN
October 8, 2019 7:56 am
Caligula Jones
Reply to  bonbon
October 8, 2019 9:04 am

Right backatcha:

https://business.financialpost.com/technology/liberals-600-million-cleantech-fund-is-losing-money-and-struggling-to-find-investments

My idea: every True Believer, bureaucrat, politician, MSM who believes in this crap has to put ALL their pension and PERSONAL investment money into it.

Or shut up.

I’m ok with either…

JN
Reply to  bonbon
October 8, 2019 9:07 am

Sometimes it indeed sounds that CAGW is nothing more than another artificial created economical bubble. The link you posted has all the text to almost prove it.

Reply to  bonbon
October 8, 2019 10:35 am

The proof of the bubble is in the bursting – but why wait?

These bankers need to taste Glass-Steagall right now before again howling for a bailout like last time, at panicked gormless politicians doors.

Somehow I just cannot see Pres. Trump doing what Bush and Obama did with $21 trillion.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  bonbon
October 8, 2019 8:59 am

Was it not irresponsible lending by Bankers (no that’s NOT Cockney Rhyming Slang) that led to the last debarcle in the financial industry? You know when the bankers NEVER lost “THEIR” money, it was OUR money, so Al Murray (British comedian) was right to say that guvments took “our effin money”, to replace “our effin money”, to replace “our effin money”!!!! Remember, during WWII, the Bank of France talked to the Bank of Italy, which talked to the Bank of Spain, which talked to the Bank of Poland, which talked to the Bank of England, which talked to the Bank of America, etc, etc, etc. Armageddon may be just around the corner, but hey, banking must go on regardless!!!! Oh well! I also seem to recall from my history of WWII, after the fall of France in 1940, that the Paris branches of Barclays Bank, Lloyds Bank, The Westminster Bank, et al, had prepared lists of their Jewish employees, names, addresses, telephone numbers, etc., ready for collection by the Gestapo, months before said welfare group (sarc) even thought about such hearding actions! AtB

Reply to  Alan the Brit
October 8, 2019 10:49 am

And the Bank of International Settlements founded in 1930 by Bank of England chief Norman Montague along with none other than Hjalmar Schacht (“my bank”), soon to be Hitler’s economics minister.

Now one can see what “bankers boy” really means.

Schacht forced austerity on Germany, and put credit into the military machine with bonds.
As liberal banker Abba Lerner put it “Hitler would not have been necessary if Germany had accepted austerity”.

Now the same – green bonds, with murderous austerity. And what is all this Ukrainegate/Russiagate but “Drang nach Osten” all over again. Now it is clear why Pres. Trump wants good relations with Russia and China, and who does’nt.

Justin Burch
October 8, 2019 5:48 am

I noticed two things. They only name three scientists and they don’t say how many scientists joined. Maybe it was just those three. They don’t say what these scientists are scientists of or where they are in their career. What if they are first year Master’s students in the Department of Underwater Rugby studies? They said one fellow worked in climate science for ten years. He probably is a technician in charge of cleaning bird’s nests from field instruments.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Justin Burch
October 8, 2019 11:10 am

“Maybe it was just those three.”

Much ado about nothing.

H.R.
October 8, 2019 5:56 am

Eric Worrall: “Imagine if all the eco-economists, conservation scientists and climate modellers joined Extinction Rebellion […]”

Super Glue futures are UP!

October 8, 2019 6:20 am

“Charlie Gardner, a conservation scientist at the University of Kent, says he joined the organisation because he felt that his professional responsibility extended beyond “just studying and describing” the impact of climate change on biodiversity. “We know what to do to save species, but the UK government is not giving us the funding to do it.”

You can be a scientist or you can be an activist but you can’t be both if your activism is related to your research question. Pls see

https://tambonthongchai.com/2019/02/03/hidden-hand/

James Clarke
Reply to  chaamjamal
October 8, 2019 6:58 am

My guess is that a ‘conservation’ scientist is much closer to a political scientist than a ‘physical’ scientist.

Caligula Jones
October 8, 2019 6:24 am

“we need to get some broad-based support, to capture the public’s imagination. That, of course, entails getting loads of media coverage. So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of the doubts we might have. Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest.”

St. Stephen Schneider, the first of his Name.

In this case, they are being neither effective, nor honest, so there’s that.

Reply to  Caligula Jones
October 8, 2019 6:35 am

He wants to capture the green investment imagination, you know, the moneybags.
And his kind have indeed.
The London GFI, Green Finance Initiative waxes lyrical!

So get ready for the green synthetic credit tsunami.
But first note, as with any tsunami, the credit tide going way out, killing off agriculture, mid-sized firms, you know , all that deplorable carbon stuff.

Not to worry, then comes the wall of credit, if answer there comes any.

October 8, 2019 7:01 am

“Scientist” doesn’t seem to mean the same thing it did when I was at school. From context, I think it means “one who is incapable of analytical thought” now.

John Q Public
October 8, 2019 7:33 am

We need to spread the message of the good ER are doing with their die-ins, parading ghouls, etc. They are highlighting what would occur in the absence of sufficient CO2 to support plants and trees and ultimately all animals, humans, and life on earth. Whenever you see a tweet about it, be sure to highlight how they are promoting the importance of CO2 to life on earth, by contrasting the good CO2 does with the horror of absence of sufficient CO2.

ImranCan
October 8, 2019 8:06 am

Given that the UK is responsible for ~2% of global emissions (and that number is declining), why are these protests not being held in Beijing ?

(Of course I think we all know the answer to that).

JMichna
October 8, 2019 8:08 am

Re ‘Tipping Points’
“Lee, who didn’t wish to give his full name, says he worked for a decade in climate science, but “we are now reaching the tipping point that we’ve always been fearful of”.

“It’s almost to the point when we can’t reverse it. This is our last chance. …”

I’m tired of tipping points. I’m also tired of “last chances.” We’ve endured so many tipping points… so many last chances… so many dire predictions. Can we just agree on one, final, last “tipping point” so that we’ll know when all this AGW nonsense has run its course?

Carbon500
October 8, 2019 8:17 am

The UK’s ‘New Scientist’ magazine backs the CO2/dangerous man-made global warming tale 100% .
It has anything but an objective scientific outlook in its statements on the subject.

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  Carbon500
October 8, 2019 9:53 am

Yep. I’ve stopped buying it. Used to be fairly interesting sometimes.

Carbon500
Reply to  Chaswarnertoo
October 9, 2019 9:16 am

Yes, me too – I don’t read it anymore.

October 8, 2019 8:42 am

They remember or have what happened to intellectuals in Mao’s Cultural Revolution and under the Khmer Rouge. Taking no chances after the Arab Spring.

brent
October 8, 2019 8:42 am

Our bet is paying off”: why philanthropists are raising money for climate activists
A chat with the donors helping to fund the climate strike.
https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2019/10/8/20899908/climate-change-protest-emergency-fund

brent
Reply to  brent
October 8, 2019 10:10 am

Bootlegger-Baptist coalition

Rent-seeking in Washington is a highly developed art-form and when really humungous amounts of money are involved, it is always the case that a Baptist-bootlegger coalition has been put together to get the necessary legislation through Congress
http://www.lavoisier.com.au/articles/climate-policy/politics/evans2002-2.php

Climate Mob are the contemporary Baptists

n.n
October 8, 2019 8:52 am

Pro-Life

Alasdair Fairbairn
October 8, 2019 8:53 am

The term Scientist used to have meaning and respect. Today I cringe when the term is used to make a point. These people are not fit to claim the title.
1) They have advertised their gross bias. A no no in scientific method.
2) They have advertised their inability to see the Marxist agenda which drives the Extinction Rebellion. A failure in logical competence?

Graemethecat
October 8, 2019 9:05 am

What is a “Conservation Scientist” anyway? Sounds more like a type of activist to me.

Davis
October 8, 2019 9:14 am

Look at the cute NAZIS.

They may use green instead of brown, but their eye catching emblem reminds me of the old emblem.

I see they still stomp their feet to get their own way.

ResourceGuy
October 8, 2019 9:17 am

Does that mean students get a break from “kissing the ring” to get good grades or is attendance being taken on the protest line?

October 8, 2019 11:33 am

In London, as they close down the city centre, of course they receive implicit support from the media and senior politicians. Even the Prime Minister expressed his understanding but objected to the tactics and the Mayor of London, their soul brother, spouts half-hearted concerns. Even ITV had two of their spokespersons in the studio during the evening news broadcast to lecture us on the bleak future ahead and how they were so so sorry, but they had no choice. They are effectively being encouraged to continue and escalate their protests. It could get quite ugly. There is nothing peaceful about a protest that causes major disruption to people’s lives, no matter how much handwringing we might be subject to.

brent
October 8, 2019 12:38 pm

For doctors like me, joining Extinction Rebellion is a moral duty

In April 2019, I co-founded Doctors for Extinction Rebellion, a network of more than 500 health professionals who, having looked at the science, realise we need drastic action to limit the worst possible outcomes of climate breakdown.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/extinction-rebellion-protests-london-doctors-climate-crisis-environment-a9147656.html

B d Clark
Reply to  brent
October 8, 2019 1:19 pm

I dont think you have looked at any evidence, if your a doctor surley you know the difference between a prediction, and a observation.

brent
Reply to  B d Clark
October 8, 2019 8:56 pm

Above is a comment by Dr Rita Issa, the author of the article linked
She is apparently an SJW
https://twitter.com/DrRitaIssa

Herbert
October 8, 2019 1:22 pm

Extinction Rebellion is a Doomsday Cult.

Scarface
October 8, 2019 1:43 pm

The XR movement: for any rebel without a cause.