Climate Crusader Greta Thunberg Tipped to Win Nobel Peace Prize

Border between Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Guess which country has the wealthier more industrialized economy, and which one has less industry?

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Three Swedish MPs have nominated Greta Thunberg for the Nobel Peace Prize, because of her efforts to raise awareness of the damage fossil fuels are causing to the environment.

Greta Thunberg: The teenage climate activist tipped to win Nobel Peace Prize

Environmental campaigner delivered emotional speech to UN last month
Tom Parfitt

Swedish environment activist Greta Thunberg is being tipped to win the Nobel Peace Prize following a remarkable year in which the teenager’s “school strike for climate” movement has grown to worldwide prominence.

Here is everything you need to know about the 16-year-old.
Who is Greta Thunberg?

Greta Thunberg began a lone protest outside Sweden’s parliament in October 2018 when she was 15, saying would refuse to attend school on Fridays until the government tackled the growing climate and ecological crisis.

In the 12 months since, she has become one of the world’s most talked-about people, having been invited to speak at the UN general assembly – where she invoked the wrath of Donald Trump – and inspiring global protests attracting hundreds of thousands of young campaigners.

“You have stolen my dreams and my childhood with your empty words,” the teenager told world leaders during her emotional and confrontational speech at the UN last month.

“And yet I’m one of the lucky ones. People are suffering. People are dying. Entire ecosystems are collapsing. We are in the beginning of a mass extinction. And all you can talk about is money and fairytales of eternal economic growth. How dare you.”

Read more: https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/greta-thunberg-speech-climate-change-nobel-peace-prize-winner-who-a9139651.html

Sorry Michael Mann, better luck next year.

I’ve got to say it would be more impressive if Greta knew anything about the global environment. There is no evidence “ecosystems are collapsing”, actual measurement suggests that the Earth is greening, thanks largely to nations like India and China planting more trees and taking better care of their environments, but also due to CO2 fertilisation.

Here’s a pop quiz question for Greta and her friends; why is it that China and India suddenly seem to have the spare cash to take better care of their environments?

The picture at the top of this post, the border between Haiti and the Dominican Republic, illustrates the difference between having an industrialised economy and not having a thriving industrial sector. My guess is most of you guessed correctly which side of the border ordinary people can afford to buy fossil fuel.

I must say it is difficult to see how forcing people in the Dominican Republic to go back to using climate friendly biofuel, like their friends in Haiti, would help prevent collapse of the local ecosystem.

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Brent Hargreaves
October 5, 2019 6:10 am

They’ll doubtless stop heating their homes and using transport. No? But…. that would be hypocrisy!

Mark
Reply to  Brent Hargreaves
October 5, 2019 7:40 am

She, her family, handlers have collectively used more fossil fuel, no doubt for free, than most people on earth will use in a lifetime. The have leveraged her ponytails and loud mouth into a continuous world vacation. Not a fan of Putin but his PC responses were great and spot on. Paraphrasing, she (and her entourage) are naive and do not understand the complex nature of the subject or the world. Perhaps that is wrong, they have clearly figured out how to play the system expertly.

Her 15 minutes of fame are well used up.

Troels Junge
Reply to  Mark
October 5, 2019 7:59 am

Not the first time Putin are spot on right on the climate issues.

Bryan A
Reply to  Troels Junge
October 5, 2019 9:03 am

Nice article Eric.
I would have retitled the picture though from

Border between Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Guess which country has the wealthier more industrialized economy, and which one has less industry?

To

Border between Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Guess which country uses more fossil fuel sourced energy, and which one uses more biomass?

Reply to  Bryan A
October 5, 2019 1:55 pm

Also, Eric I think crediting India and China on an equal footing with effect of CO2 in “the greening” is a bit shoddy. There are 3 trillion trees on the planet (counted during the past decade) and we had a 14% expansion in global forest extent in 30 yrs by 2014. That is ~420,000,000,000 new trees >500B by now. That would be quite some tree planting, and the CO2 had a hand in whatever efforts India and China did. The doubling of harvests was for the most part due to CO2 fertilization, too, despite consensus obfuscation to marginalize the effect in order to maintain a high negative cost of carbon. Please don’t offer the totes a hand.

Bryan A
Reply to  Bryan A
October 6, 2019 12:26 am

Several things contribute to”Greening the Biosphere” other than New Trees. Chief amongst those are …
Increased leaf mass/quantity per tree
Increased leaf size per tree type
Oasification of previous desert biomes
Northward spread of boreal forests

Greg
Reply to  Troels Junge
October 5, 2019 12:42 pm

There seems to be an error of pronunciation here .

It’s called “the Nobel PC Prize”.

noaaprogrammer
Reply to  Greg
October 5, 2019 5:17 pm

Sadly, the Nobull Prize is not living up to its name.

Reply to  Greg
October 7, 2019 9:39 am

The Nobel Prize has degraded to the point of being equivalent to a Cracker Jack toy, except for the monetary award part (around $1 million).

The decline in the prestige of the Nobel Peace Prize awards began with the co-award to Henry Kissinger in 1973, continued with the co-award to Yasser Arafat in 1994, and accelerated downward with awards to Al Gore and the IPCC in 2007 and Barack Obama in 2009. The money I could use; the trophy and publicity could go into the circular file for all I care.

David Cage
Reply to  Troels Junge
October 5, 2019 9:49 pm

Let’s face it the believers believe, the doubter get no evidence at all to dispel their doubt and just get demands and intimidation.
Grotty Dumbird is little thug and nothing more. We were told that CO2 would cause ever faster “forcing” changes. Even here they had to use and emotive word where there is a perfectly good term for it already.
Instead of talking records of a tiny fraction of a degree show us the figures for the RATE of INCREASE caused by fossil fuel and now it is regional and not global separate out the bounded regions of higher and lower change and show that fossil fuel use matches the temperature anomalies.
For some of us data matters not the emotive mindless outpourings of a not exactly normal teenager with less logical sense or numerical skill than I know I had aged nine or less.

Reply to  David Cage
October 14, 2019 9:54 am

i totaly agree with you. i think a heck of a lot of other people do as well…

tonyb
Editor
Reply to  Mark
October 5, 2019 8:33 am

Here is the definition of the criteria for the Peace prize;

“According to Nobel’s will, the Peace Prize shall be awarded to the person who in the preceding year “shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses”

I don’t see anything about it being awarded for scaring children witless or making grossly exaggerated claims.

Is she up for the ‘peace’ prize itself or are there other variations on it?

Perhaps a new one like Obamas for example, when he was given ‘the Nobel prize for a new American President before they had barely sat down at the oval office?’

Sadly there appears to be more politics and ideology than actual merit in the awarding of the prize these days than an attempt to accord with the original intent of Nobel.

mark from the midwest
Reply to  tonyb
October 5, 2019 8:57 am

There are no other variations of the Peace Prize. Also, for what it’s worth there is no Nobel Prize for Economics, it’s actually the Bank of Sweden Prize for Economics in Memory of Alfred Noble.

The other Noble Prizes are for Literature, Physics, Chemistry and Medicine

Editor
Reply to  mark from the midwest
October 5, 2019 10:05 am

According to https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/about/prize-announcement-dates it’s The Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel .

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/economic-sciences/ is a little confused and uses two names:

In 1968, Sveriges Riksbank (Sweden’s central bank) established the Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel, founder of the Nobel Prize. The Prize is based on a donation received by the Nobel Foundation in 1968 from Sveriges Riksbank on the occasion of the Bank’s 300th anniversary. The first Prize in Economic Sciences was awarded to Ragnar Frisch and Jan Tinbergen in 1969.

The Prize in Economic Sciences is awarded by The Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, Stockholm, Sweden, according to the same principles as for the Nobel Prizes that have been awarded since 1901.

Reply to  mark from the midwest
October 5, 2019 10:29 am

Midwest Mark

The same people award the economics prize so it might as well be called a “Nobel Prize”.

Rocketscientist
Reply to  tonyb
October 5, 2019 9:59 am

The Nobel prizes used to have significance. Sadly the past awards are being diminished by such dangerously foolish “promotions”, which if actual enacted would more likely cause the exact opposite to the intent of the award.

Reply to  Rocketscientist
October 5, 2019 12:38 pm

The Nobel Peace Prizes has become politicized instrument of the extreme left.

The Nobel Peace Prize is now a black mark on your life’s achievements – it marks you as a scoundrel and/or an imbecile.

Reply to  Rocketscientist
October 5, 2019 9:57 pm

Following is a list of Nobel Peace Prize Winners:

Let’s pick one:
International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons 2017

How’s that workin’ out for ya?

Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons 2013
European Union 2012
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change 2007
Intl. Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War 1985
Office of UN High Commission for Refugees 1981
Amnesty International 1977 Worldwide

Same question!

Here is a partial rogues gallery:

i can International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons 2017 Geneva
Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons 2013 Worldwide
European Union 2012 Europe
Barack Obama, US President 2009 United States
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change 2007 Switzerland
Albert Arnold Gore Jr. 2007 United States
Jimmy Carter, former president of USA 2002 United States
The United Nations 2001 Worldwide
Kofi Annan, UN Secretary General 2001 Ghana
International Campaign to Ban Landmines 1997 Worldwide
Pugwash Conference (of scholars against conflict) 1995 Worldwide
Yasir Arafat 1994 Palestine
Shimon Peres 1994 Israel
Yitzhak Rabin 1994 Israel
Frederik W. de Klerk, President of South Africa 1993 South Africa
Nelson Mandela, later President of South Africa 1993 South Africa
Mikhail S. Gorbachev 1990 Soviet Union
Intl. Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War 1985 United States
Bishop Desmond Tutu 1984 South Africa
Office of UN High Commission for Refugees 1981 Worldwide
Anwar Sadat, President of Egypt 1978 Egypt
Menachem Begin 1978 Israel
Amnesty International 1977 Worldwide

Walter Sobchak
Reply to  Rocketscientist
October 6, 2019 7:57 pm

Allan left out my favorite Peace prize. 1992 the Prize was awarded to Rigoberta Menchu. She was the semi-literate woman whose as told to “memoir” was written by the wife of French Communist Regis Debray, most famous as a pal of communist terrorist Che Guevara. It was total garbage, but Rigoberta got the prize.

Questing Vole
Reply to  Rocketscientist
October 7, 2019 8:55 am

An award to St Greta, the Swedish Frightingale, would be one more nail in the coffin of the Nobel Prizes’ credibility.
Such a shame. They still – occasionally – go to deserving nominees, but their merit is diluted by the number undeserving recipients on the past awards list.
Makes me wonder: has anyone ever refused a Nobel Prize?

Mike Ellwood
Reply to  Rocketscientist
October 7, 2019 9:39 am

To:

“Questing Vole October 7, 2019 at 8:55 am

Makes me wonder: has anyone ever refused a Nobel Prize?”

Grouch Marx probably would have.

Kemaris
Reply to  tonyb
October 5, 2019 1:20 pm

The Nobel Peace Prize for promoting enforced scarcity so that people and nations will have to fight more over the limited resources we are still allowed to access? No doubt the nations will have an easy time recruiting dung farmers from the midst of the windmills that provide electricity for the nobles.

Or maybe she was nominated for the Nobel War Prize?

Photios
Reply to  tonyb
October 5, 2019 1:26 pm

I think she’s up for the “Peace (Mann) Prize”

GPHanner
Reply to  Mark
October 5, 2019 9:21 am

Play the system expertly?? The system begs to be played by one and all. The system is rigged to be played. What amazes me is that so many alleged adults are taking the tantrums of a school girl seriously.

Rhoda R
Reply to  GPHanner
October 5, 2019 8:49 pm

Next we’ll find the NPP in Cracker Jacks boxes.

F.LEGHORN
Reply to  Rhoda R
October 6, 2019 8:31 am

I thought exactly the same thing. But, alas, you beat me to it. And to top it off I’m out of Cracker Jacks.

Tom Gelsthorpe
Reply to  Mark
October 5, 2019 10:28 am

Touché!

Kenji
Reply to  Brent Hargreaves
October 5, 2019 7:58 am

Yes, little Greta … you are one of the lucky ones. You live in a modern, technological, fossil-fueled Western Capitalist wonderland. Built on the heavy use of fossil fuels. Let me know when you move to a cabin in the woods, fueled entirely by solar panels and wind turbines. Your Nobel Prize would be awarded posthumously… after you were found froze to death.

RobbertBobbert
Reply to  Kenji
October 5, 2019 8:14 pm

Kenji.
Miss Thunberg is Swedish and thrives on Fossil Fuels and…Swedens electric supply is predominately Nuclear…and Hydro.

Electricity production in Sweden is dominated by nuclear power and hydroelectricity which currently make about equal contributions to energy production, for which demand has remained fairly constant since 1990……..Sweden has three operational nuclear power plants with 8 operational nuclear reactors, which produce about 35-40% of the country’s electricity.[1] The nation’s largest power station, Ringhals Nuclear Power Plant, has four reactors and generates about 15 percent of Sweden’s annual electricity consumption.[2]…..Sweden formerly had a nuclear phase-out policy, aiming to end nuclear power generation in Sweden by 2010. On 5 February 2009, the Government of Sweden announced an agreement allowing for the replacement of existing reactors, effectively ending the phase-out policy……Wikipedia…

Trash accounts for a small portion of Sweden’s overall power supply; hydro and nuclear energy generate about 83 percent of Sweden’s electricity, and wind generates another 7 percent….But garbage supplies much of the heat during cold months for the country’s nearly 10 million residents. Energy from trash equals the heating demand of 1.25 million apartments and electricity for 680,000 homes…(according to NYT).
However, garbage-fueled power plants are not a clean energy source. Some opponents claim these power plants are a “false solution” that green-washes dirty incineration.

“The process of burning trash is inherently polluting,” said Leah Kelly, senior attorney with the Environmental Integrity Project, a nonprofit based in Washington. “You can put state-of-the-art pollution controls on an incinerator in the same way that you can a coal plant, but that doesn’t make the facility clean.”…NYT, In Sweden, Trash Heats Homes, Powers Buses and Fuels Taxi Fleets…
So Sweden relies on Nuke…Hydro, Oil and garbage to power the nation..

I would request that WUWT readers who know of such things to explain how polluting, or otherwise, is such garbage conversion.

What would it take for Sweden to close its Nuke and Garbage programs and replace it with Wind and Solar by 2030? (is that still the next date for The Armageddon or has that changed again)…
Sweden and Solar…As If…
Possibly a question for Miss Thunberg but more likely it should be directed to her financially flush wranglers…

Kenji
Reply to  RobbertBobbert
October 6, 2019 4:55 am

Why did you fail to add … close their hydroelectric plants along with stopping nuclear and trash burning? I don’t know a single “environmentalist” here in my State of CA who support hydroelectric power. None. Why. Because it forever destroys the natural environment. It dams-up wild rivers and floods valleys as beautiful as the Yosemite Valley. There is a serious movement here in CA to tear down the Hetch Hetchy Reservoir which supplies all of San Francisco’s water and part of its power.

Gotta take hydro power off the “acceptable” eco-dolt power source as well.

Mike Ellwood
Reply to  RobbertBobbert
October 7, 2019 1:31 am

Well, if Greta were to start campaigning for a sensible expansion of nuclear energy by further research of, and investment in, “4th Gen” technology like Molten Salt Reactors and the Integrated Fast Reactor, that would be better than what she’s doing now.

Perhaps while she is in the USA, she should visit Oak Ridge NL and Argonne NL, and then spend some months (or years) studying some real science.

Reply to  Brent Hargreaves
October 5, 2019 8:02 am

This old joke is still relevant for those who are utterly ignorant of economics.

Question: How did socialists light their homes before candles?
Answer: Electricity.

David Chappell
October 5, 2019 6:14 am

St Nobel Greta would be up there in the list of idiot decisions along with Obama and Gore.

Reply to  David Chappell
October 5, 2019 6:32 am

David Chappell October 5, 2019 at 6:14 am
St Nobel Greta would be up there in the list of idiot decisions along with Obama and Gore.

… and just maybe Yasser Arafat

David Chappell
Reply to  steve case
October 5, 2019 6:55 am

Yes, but at least he wasn’t in on the climate scam.

Reply to  David Chappell
October 5, 2019 7:26 am

Grace of the early dæth?

Hans Erren
Reply to  David Chappell
October 5, 2019 7:30 am

At least Yasser Arafat received the prize because he made a peace deal.

Greg
Reply to  Hans Erren
October 5, 2019 8:25 am

he made a peace deal? Oh yeah. Maybe that’s why it used to be called a Peace Prize.

Now it’s a Piece Prize as in POS.

Reply to  Hans Erren
October 5, 2019 2:35 pm

Well, All Hallows’ Eve – Halloween – is coming.
Has anyone seen any ad for a Scary Climate Activist mask?
Perhaps with narrowed eyes?
An a speak-your-weight attachment that growls, or squeaks, ‘How Dare You?’?

Round here, most Halloween callers are about five years old – with Mum or Dad about a yard away – so the masks need not be too scary!

And, less than a week later, it’s Bonfire Night here.
Which effigy to burn?
The field is enormous – all the You-Row-apparatchiks; Barnier, Rompoo-ey, Juncker (with bottles), Tusk; lots of Liberal Democrats who simply ignore democracy [and may not be very liberal if you disagree with them]; Tories who are further left than Tony B. Liar [and most Dem candidates in the US], but the Tories, at least, are so wet you could flush them down the khazi and not notice . . . .

Auto

John the Econ
October 5, 2019 6:16 am

Hardly a surprise. The Nobel Peace Prize kinda lost it’s relevancy when they started giving it to people like Yasser Arafat. Since, it’s been more a broadcast of Progressive hopes and dreams than a reward for anything actually achieving peace, especially when it was given to Barack Obama before he’d actually achieved anything more relevant than getting elected.

They’re giving it to Greta not because of any particularly brilliant insight on her part. She’ll get it because she broadcasts the narrative they wish broadcast.

Latitude
Reply to  John the Econ
October 5, 2019 6:53 am

She’ll get it because she’s made up to look 10 years old….and the mean…I’m serious…grouchy face
…what an act

Reply to  Latitude
October 5, 2019 10:06 am

She’s 16, but she looks like 10 and talks like 4.

Reply to  Ralph Dave Westfall
October 5, 2019 10:39 am

You can make jokes, Westfall, but Ms. Thunderberg is currently first on the list for my climate science blog’s well respected annual prize: “Climate Buffoon of the Year”.

Alexandria Occasionally Coherent was trying hard to catch Ms. Thunderberg, but has recently been distracted by impeachment.

Mr. Obama won in 2018 for his bizarre statements about climate change:
http://elonionbloggle.blogspot.com/2018/11/barack-obama-honest-global-warming.html

Reply to  Richard Greene
October 6, 2019 12:06 am

Apparently AOC has the attention span of a 10 year old.
Now that impeachment fever is approaching the boiling point, she announces she is “over it”.
Very amusing, considering she was pushing hard for impeachment since the day after the election.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/10/04/ocasio-cortez-says-trump-impeachment-effort-boring-over/

Robin Matyjasek
Reply to  Ralph Dave Westfall
October 5, 2019 2:01 pm

Hey, steady on. That’s grossly unfair to 4-year-olds…

Slacko
Reply to  Ralph Dave Westfall
October 5, 2019 6:56 pm

“… and talks like 4.”

Yeah. She needs to learn how to constrict her throat muscles tightly around her larynx so she can squawk like other females under forty.
(When did girls invent that, anyway?)

Roger Knights
Reply to  John the Econ
October 5, 2019 9:08 am

“it was given to Barack Obama before he’d actually achieved anything more relevant than getting elected.”

Att the time, I said here that it was likely partly given to him because his acceptance speech would coincide in time and space with the Copenhagen climate conference. I.e., I suspect it was hoped that this propinquity would incline him to attend it.

Reply to  Roger Knights
October 5, 2019 10:17 am

OBAMA WAS AT WAR EVERY DAY OF HIS EIGHT YEARS = SO HE DESERVED THE PEACE PRIZE

Photios
Reply to  John the Econ
October 5, 2019 1:32 pm

‘The Nobel Peace Prize kinda lost it’s relevancy
when they started giving it to people like Yasser Arafat.”
Yasser Arafat? Hah! Henry Kissinger and Lee Duc Tho got it first.

2hotel9
Reply to  Photios
October 6, 2019 8:50 am

Glad you pointed that pout! Now we all know you are a terrorist supporting moron. Buhbye, babee.

rbabcock
October 5, 2019 6:28 am

If she is really sincere, she will share it with Michael Mann.. oh wait.

tonyb
Editor
Reply to  rbabcock
October 5, 2019 8:45 am

On a serious note, one can almost feel sorry for Mann. Whatever we might think of his output, he has gained a Phd, written many serious papers, carried out lots of research, attended conferences, sat at the top table and after all that it seems a pouty, over excitable and exceptionally rude teenager prone to a Pinnochio syndrome might waltz away with ‘his’ prize.

I did say ‘almost’ feel sorry, but many genuine scientists of whatever type must feel affronted IF the prize goes to Greta.

tonyb

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  tonyb
October 5, 2019 9:34 am

Many genuine scientist don’t care one iota for the ‘peace prize’. They do, however, for the real Nobel Prizes, the ones in chemistry and physics.

J Mac
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
October 5, 2019 2:06 pm

+10!

Cosmic
October 5, 2019 6:29 am

Ick. Ick, and more ick. ZERO respect for anything Nobel peacers think and do.

joe the non climate scientist
October 5, 2019 6:30 am

Contrast haiti & the dominican republic

Same with contrasting soviet russia/eastern europe vs western europe/united states – massive improvement when capitalism began taking hold after the collapse of Iron fist of communism

Yet – the activists believe you can clean up the environment the expansion of socialism/ another version of communism

Mike McMillan
Reply to  joe the non climate scientist
October 5, 2019 9:14 am

Dominican Republic subsidizes fossil fuel use to make it cheaper. Haiti doesn’t, so the folks there burn wood. One of the few instances where government subsidies have a positive effect.

October 5, 2019 6:35 am

So lets use Bio fuels then. We can make them from Palm Oil, Rapeseed, Soy and Sugar Cane. The EU imports 7,000,000 tons of Palm Oil and almost two-thirds of that is used for energy. That is 4,500,000 tons of Palm Oil used to make energy to save the planet from burning coal.
Drax power station imports wood pellets into the UK to burn instead of coal and the intention is to replace coal completely. Drax gets it’s wood pellet from USA (62%), Canada (17%), Latvia (10%), Estonia (4%), Portugal (3%), Brazil (1%), Belorus (1%) and the UK (1%). All this is called Environmental Sustainability.
The law of unintended consequences is being given so many new examples it’s hard to keep up.

Scissor
Reply to  Stephen Skinner
October 5, 2019 7:23 am

Destroy the environment to save it. How dare you?

Reply to  Scissor
October 5, 2019 8:57 am

– How dare I? Very good and I see what you did there. Anyway, you have to be 16 or under or a 16 year old Nobel prize winner to be able to scold properly. It won’t work if you have age or experience.

October 5, 2019 6:36 am

Someone should warn Greta that being invited to the Nobel Dinner could turn out to be the Green New Meal.

Robert W. Turner
Reply to  bonbon
October 5, 2019 8:42 am
Mark Broderick
Reply to  Robert W. Turner
October 5, 2019 9:49 am

Ha ! I knew Democrats were really aliens….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk01eeKMD_I

Homer Knew……..D’OH !

Sara
Reply to  bonbon
October 5, 2019 11:52 am

Carnivores like me require animal proteins. We could just make sandwiches out of the soylent consumers, you know.

Mike Ellwood
Reply to  bonbon
October 5, 2019 4:22 pm

Will she fly back to Sweden to receive her prize…?

Tom Higley
October 5, 2019 6:36 am

As a youngster, I used to think that winning the Nobel Prize was a great accomplishment. Perhaps there was a time when it was. But after Gore and Obama were awarded the prize, I realized that it is a politically motivated farce. My childhood dreams have been stolen from me.

Editor
Reply to  Tom Higley
October 5, 2019 10:09 am

There is more than one Nobel Prize! They are awarded by different committees. Perhaps you can focus on the non-Norwegian prizes in the future. 🙂

Reply to  Ric Werme
October 5, 2019 4:52 pm

And you don’t think these will be corrupted in the same way, Ric? They’ll find a way to give the physics and chemistry prizes for ‘discoveries’ in Climate sciences, say research on “proving” man is definitely guilty of planet destruction, or converting coal into algae or s9me other worthless piece of work. Medicine prize is a no brainer – saving us all from a climate athsma epidemic with a procedure to retrofit us with a CO2 mask that converts CO2 to biodiesel.

Bill Parsons
Reply to  Gary Pearse
October 5, 2019 11:29 pm

Somebody out there is bound to discover the sinister implication of bland weather. It is certainly the harbinger of bad times… it’s an ill wind that doesn’t blow very hard.

More on this as I work the details out.

F.LEGHORN
Reply to  Gary Pearse
October 6, 2019 8:57 am

I guess I could live with the CO2 mask, but the methane harvester scares the willies out of me.

H.R.
October 5, 2019 6:37 am

From the article Eric posted:

[…] where she invoked the wrath of Donald Trump […]

No wonder it’s called Fake News. President Trump ignored her. If I saw any wrath, it was in the look on St. Greta’s face as President Trump breezed by without so much as a glance in St. Greta’s direction.

Now there was some wrath for you if you want to see wrath.

J Mac
Reply to  H.R.
October 5, 2019 2:27 pm

H.R.,
I knew something would eventually replace the ‘Grumpy Cat’ meme…. but had no idea that it would be ‘Grumpy Greta’ and her supporting cadres of grumpy ReGretables. It’s a strange form of fictional beliefs driving the self-induced misery she espouses and her acolytes embrace.

October 5, 2019 6:42 am

I agree the young lady intervening at the AOC meeting with devastating Swift satire should get the Emmy Award or an Oscar for the best performance this year.
She captured the hysterical climate monotone perfectly!

https://www.c-span.org/video/?464847-1/representative-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-holds-town-hall-meeting

Gunnar Dalen
October 5, 2019 6:49 am

The Old man Alfred flipped around many years ago. And thanks to this cartoon-committee he won’t turn back anyway soon.

Flight Level
October 5, 2019 6:53 am

Another institution goes down the drain…

Just how much payola it took to get there ?

Moderately Cross of East Anglia
October 5, 2019 6:55 am

Please remember that just a few months before WW2 started a Swedish social democrat member of Parliament nominated Adolph Hitler to receive the Nobel Peace Prize. Astonishing as that is today, it should serve as a reminder what a farce this particular prize is.

Mussolini got a nomination too I think, but I prefer to think it was because he wrote plays. I’ve never managed to track down the text of any of his plays, but I do hope there is one about the draining of the Pontine marshes as it is so easy to imagine the kind of dreadful lines that he could have written. Perhaps the world agreed back then to track down every copy and destroy them to save posterity’s sanity. That didn’t work out that well I suppose.

Reply to  Moderately Cross of East Anglia
October 5, 2019 3:44 pm

It would be interesting to know which PM!

The hypocritical party of concern are busy with criticizing the Swedish Democrats due to their National Socialistic roots. Well, SD ‘only’ had sympathies among some of the original members, but they are long gone (booted). The Swedish Social ‘Democrates’ indeed performed that kind of stuff back in the 1930’s and 1940’s for sure, just like the two German counterparts, maybe earlier and continued until 1975. (Some of it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilisation_in_Sweden https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_camps_in_Sweden_during_World_War_II )

Today, they are shuting down anyone who dare to criticize their failed politics, just like in the 1930’s …

guido LaMoto
October 5, 2019 6:57 am

Well, they certainly couldn’t give her The Prize for Science.

H.R.
Reply to  guido LaMoto
October 5, 2019 8:08 am

No, she’s not going to get that one.

However, Greta may walk away with the Bulwer-Lytton Award.

https://www.bulwer-lytton.com/

Robin Matyjasek
Reply to  H.R.
October 5, 2019 2:07 pm

Hmmm. She’s certainly be an odds-on favourite for the Dunning-Kruger prize… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

joe - the non climate scientist
Reply to  guido LaMoto
October 5, 2019 8:15 am

Just a note that Nobel Prize that Mann didnt win was the peace prize – not the Nobel prize for science

mikewaite
Reply to  guido LaMoto
October 5, 2019 9:26 am

But she is going to receive a doctorate :
-“In May 2019, the University of Mons announced it had awarded a doctor honoris causa (honorary degree) to Thunberg. The doctoral diploma and insignia will be bestowed at the official opening of the university’s 2019-2020 academic year on 10 October 2019.[109]-” (Wiki)
We will have to be careful to refer to her always as “Dr Thunberg”, otherwise we will get one of those stares, and we don’t want that do we?

Rocketscientist
Reply to  mikewaite
October 5, 2019 10:08 am

Dr. of what exactly?
There goes their reputation. Did they have one before?
If I had been granted one of those degrees before, I would return it.

David Chappell
Reply to  Rocketscientist
October 5, 2019 9:42 pm

Doctorum Adamuscum Flabello Dulci (credit Terry Pratchett. “Jingo”)

For the Classical non-scholars: Doctor of Sweet Fanny Adams.
More vulgarly it may be Doctorum Futuo Omnium

F.LEGHORN
Reply to  mikewaite
October 6, 2019 9:25 am

Bill Cosby has a “Doctorate” like that. I doubt too many are calling him “Doctor.”

Editor
Reply to  guido LaMoto
October 5, 2019 10:11 am

There is no “The Prize for Science.”

Jeff Labute
October 5, 2019 6:58 am

Jacinda Ardern (Christchurch) is also nominated for a Nobel peace prize just for doing her job. I suppose It’s even lost more meaning since Arafat.

David Chappell
October 5, 2019 6:59 am

Slightly off topic, but does anyone know who is paying the immaculate saint’s bill while she’s skipping school?

Natalie Gordon
Reply to  David Chappell
October 5, 2019 7:10 am

Soros

Sunny
Reply to  Natalie Gordon
October 5, 2019 7:37 am

Natalie Gordon

Do you have any proof of this please, as I am genuinely interested as to greta and her familys finances.

Carl Friis-Hansen
Reply to  Sunny
October 5, 2019 9:49 am

From https://petterssonsblogg.se/2019/06/30/tar-greta-thunberg-betalt/
“… Hon säger dock att hon ibland får betalt men att dessa pengar skänks till välgörenhet. …”
“… She says that she gets paid from time to time, but these money are given to charity. …”

So, from the sound of it, her own wealthy family is most likely paying for the trip.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Sunny
October 5, 2019 10:09 am

Her coach is leftist activist Luisa-Marie Neubauer, member of the One Foundation, backed by Soros among others. That is but one smoking gun. There are likely many others.

Vuk
October 5, 2019 7:04 am

Marie Curie, Albert Einstein, Richard Feynman and Greta Thunberg members of the same club ? !
I hope not.

Hans Erren
Reply to  Vuk
October 5, 2019 7:33 am

Please don’t compare the political peace prize with real science prizes.

Natalie Gordon
October 5, 2019 7:08 am

I lost all respect for the Peace Prize committee when they gave the terrorist Yasser Arafat the prize for lying through his teeth about peace while planning the intifada. The leftists were urging the committee to take it away from Rabin and Peres, not Arafat, when Arafat started the intifada and the Israelis had the unmitigated gall to defend themselves! Still, there would be one good thing about giving it to Greta as compared to giving it to Obama. At least Greta has actually done something.

Bruce Cobb
October 5, 2019 7:19 am

I just have this to say about Greta receiving the Nobble:
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2hotel9
October 5, 2019 7:20 am

Barrack Obozo got one simply for buying an election, so why not a mentally damaged teenager next. It further illustrates how worthless the Nobel has become.

Hans Erren
October 5, 2019 7:27 am

Why am I not surprised after Al Gore?

October 5, 2019 7:29 am

If you denounce Greta “as a liar or hypocrite” according to the Independent you must be a “right-wing” critic “with little evidence” – yet this same paper refrains from mentioning the arguments these critics use to substantiate their views.

If you denounce her, you are no different from “Mr Trump, a notorious climate sceptic”. The Independent seems not to have noticed that the best scientists down the centuries have been sceptical not dogmatic and unquestioning people.

She should receive the Nobel Peace Prize because other celebrities who liberals idolize have received the prize – even though the track record of these recipients after receiving the prize are nothing to write home about.

Mark Broderick
October 5, 2019 7:34 am

What does “environmentalism” have to do with “peace” ?

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  Mark Broderick
October 5, 2019 9:45 am

The peace of the grave?

Michael Jankowski
Reply to  Mark Broderick
October 5, 2019 9:55 am

Yeah getting up before the UN and scolding them seems hardly peaceful.

MarkW
Reply to  Mark Broderick
October 5, 2019 4:39 pm

When socialists get more free stuff, they get more peaceful.

Johann Wundersamer
Reply to  Mark Broderick
October 14, 2019 6:23 am

Mark Broderick October 5, 2019 at 7:34 am

What does “environmentalism” have to do with “peace” ?
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Greta Thunberg stands for environmentalism and is of Swedish citizenship:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Greta+Thunberg+citizenship&oq=Greta+Thunberg+citizenship&aqs=chrome.

Alfred Nobel stands for the Nobel Peace Prize, invented methods for transportation of fertilisers called “Nobel Dynamite” and is of Swedish citizenship:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Alfred+Nobel+citizenship&oq=Alfred+Nobel+citizenship+&aqs=chrome.

Anders Breivig broke the Peace with fertilisers made by Nobel Dynamite. He is of Norwegian citizenship:

https://www.google.com/search?q=breivig+anders+citizenship&oq=breivig+anders+citizenship+&aqs=chrome.

Sunny
October 5, 2019 7:35 am

Who is paying for all of er traveling???? Also, Has sweden stopped using fossil fuels? All of them, down to all plastic products, all electrical products, windows with seals. Farm vehicles, has the Swedish defence industry stopped all fossil fuel use??

Only reason she is lucky, is down to fossil fuels..

“And yet I’m one of the lucky ones. People are suffering. People are dying. Entire ecosystems are collapsing”

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