Climate Crusader Greta Thunberg Tipped to Win Nobel Peace Prize

Border between Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Guess which country has the wealthier more industrialized economy, and which one has less industry?

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Three Swedish MPs have nominated Greta Thunberg for the Nobel Peace Prize, because of her efforts to raise awareness of the damage fossil fuels are causing to the environment.

Greta Thunberg: The teenage climate activist tipped to win Nobel Peace Prize

Environmental campaigner delivered emotional speech to UN last month
Tom Parfitt

Swedish environment activist Greta Thunberg is being tipped to win the Nobel Peace Prize following a remarkable year in which the teenager’s “school strike for climate” movement has grown to worldwide prominence.

Here is everything you need to know about the 16-year-old.
Who is Greta Thunberg?

Greta Thunberg began a lone protest outside Sweden’s parliament in October 2018 when she was 15, saying would refuse to attend school on Fridays until the government tackled the growing climate and ecological crisis.

In the 12 months since, she has become one of the world’s most talked-about people, having been invited to speak at the UN general assembly – where she invoked the wrath of Donald Trump – and inspiring global protests attracting hundreds of thousands of young campaigners.

“You have stolen my dreams and my childhood with your empty words,” the teenager told world leaders during her emotional and confrontational speech at the UN last month.

“And yet I’m one of the lucky ones. People are suffering. People are dying. Entire ecosystems are collapsing. We are in the beginning of a mass extinction. And all you can talk about is money and fairytales of eternal economic growth. How dare you.”

Read more: https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/greta-thunberg-speech-climate-change-nobel-peace-prize-winner-who-a9139651.html

Sorry Michael Mann, better luck next year.

I’ve got to say it would be more impressive if Greta knew anything about the global environment. There is no evidence “ecosystems are collapsing”, actual measurement suggests that the Earth is greening, thanks largely to nations like India and China planting more trees and taking better care of their environments, but also due to CO2 fertilisation.

Here’s a pop quiz question for Greta and her friends; why is it that China and India suddenly seem to have the spare cash to take better care of their environments?

The picture at the top of this post, the border between Haiti and the Dominican Republic, illustrates the difference between having an industrialised economy and not having a thriving industrial sector. My guess is most of you guessed correctly which side of the border ordinary people can afford to buy fossil fuel.

I must say it is difficult to see how forcing people in the Dominican Republic to go back to using climate friendly biofuel, like their friends in Haiti, would help prevent collapse of the local ecosystem.

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Brent Hargreaves
October 5, 2019 6:10 am

They’ll doubtless stop heating their homes and using transport. No? But…. that would be hypocrisy!

Mark
Reply to  Brent Hargreaves
October 5, 2019 7:40 am

She, her family, handlers have collectively used more fossil fuel, no doubt for free, than most people on earth will use in a lifetime. The have leveraged her ponytails and loud mouth into a continuous world vacation. Not a fan of Putin but his PC responses were great and spot on. Paraphrasing, she (and her entourage) are naive and do not understand the complex nature of the subject or the world. Perhaps that is wrong, they have clearly figured out how to play the system expertly.

Her 15 minutes of fame are well used up.

Troels Junge
Reply to  Mark
October 5, 2019 7:59 am

Not the first time Putin are spot on right on the climate issues.

Bryan A
Reply to  Troels Junge
October 5, 2019 9:03 am

Nice article Eric.
I would have retitled the picture though from

Border between Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Guess which country has the wealthier more industrialized economy, and which one has less industry?

To

Border between Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Guess which country uses more fossil fuel sourced energy, and which one uses more biomass?

Gary Pearse
Reply to  Bryan A
October 5, 2019 1:55 pm

Also, Eric I think crediting India and China on an equal footing with effect of CO2 in “the greening” is a bit shoddy. There are 3 trillion trees on the planet (counted during the past decade) and we had a 14% expansion in global forest extent in 30 yrs by 2014. That is ~420,000,000,000 new trees >500B by now. That would be quite some tree planting, and the CO2 had a hand in whatever efforts India and China did. The doubling of harvests was for the most part due to CO2 fertilization, too, despite consensus obfuscation to marginalize the effect in order to maintain a high negative cost of carbon. Please don’t offer the totes a hand.

Bryan A
Reply to  Bryan A
October 6, 2019 12:26 am

Several things contribute to”Greening the Biosphere” other than New Trees. Chief amongst those are …
Increased leaf mass/quantity per tree
Increased leaf size per tree type
Oasification of previous desert biomes
Northward spread of boreal forests

Greg
Reply to  Troels Junge
October 5, 2019 12:42 pm

There seems to be an error of pronunciation here .

It’s called “the Nobel PC Prize”.

noaaprogrammer
Reply to  Greg
October 5, 2019 5:17 pm

Sadly, the Nobull Prize is not living up to its name.

Gordon Dressler
Reply to  Greg
October 7, 2019 9:39 am

The Nobel Prize has degraded to the point of being equivalent to a Cracker Jack toy, except for the monetary award part (around $1 million).

The decline in the prestige of the Nobel Peace Prize awards began with the co-award to Henry Kissinger in 1973, continued with the co-award to Yasser Arafat in 1994, and accelerated downward with awards to Al Gore and the IPCC in 2007 and Barack Obama in 2009. The money I could use; the trophy and publicity could go into the circular file for all I care.

David Cage
Reply to  Troels Junge
October 5, 2019 9:49 pm

Let’s face it the believers believe, the doubter get no evidence at all to dispel their doubt and just get demands and intimidation.
Grotty Dumbird is little thug and nothing more. We were told that CO2 would cause ever faster “forcing” changes. Even here they had to use and emotive word where there is a perfectly good term for it already.
Instead of talking records of a tiny fraction of a degree show us the figures for the RATE of INCREASE caused by fossil fuel and now it is regional and not global separate out the bounded regions of higher and lower change and show that fossil fuel use matches the temperature anomalies.
For some of us data matters not the emotive mindless outpourings of a not exactly normal teenager with less logical sense or numerical skill than I know I had aged nine or less.

Reply to  David Cage
October 14, 2019 9:54 am

i totaly agree with you. i think a heck of a lot of other people do as well…

Editor
Reply to  Mark
October 5, 2019 8:33 am

Here is the definition of the criteria for the Peace prize;

“According to Nobel’s will, the Peace Prize shall be awarded to the person who in the preceding year “shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses”

I don’t see anything about it being awarded for scaring children witless or making grossly exaggerated claims.

Is she up for the ‘peace’ prize itself or are there other variations on it?

Perhaps a new one like Obamas for example, when he was given ‘the Nobel prize for a new American President before they had barely sat down at the oval office?’

Sadly there appears to be more politics and ideology than actual merit in the awarding of the prize these days than an attempt to accord with the original intent of Nobel.

mark from the midwest
Reply to  tonyb
October 5, 2019 8:57 am

There are no other variations of the Peace Prize. Also, for what it’s worth there is no Nobel Prize for Economics, it’s actually the Bank of Sweden Prize for Economics in Memory of Alfred Noble.

The other Noble Prizes are for Literature, Physics, Chemistry and Medicine

Editor
Reply to  mark from the midwest
October 5, 2019 10:05 am

According to https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/about/prize-announcement-dates it’s The Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel .

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/economic-sciences/ is a little confused and uses two names:

In 1968, Sveriges Riksbank (Sweden’s central bank) established the Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel, founder of the Nobel Prize. The Prize is based on a donation received by the Nobel Foundation in 1968 from Sveriges Riksbank on the occasion of the Bank’s 300th anniversary. The first Prize in Economic Sciences was awarded to Ragnar Frisch and Jan Tinbergen in 1969.

The Prize in Economic Sciences is awarded by The Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, Stockholm, Sweden, according to the same principles as for the Nobel Prizes that have been awarded since 1901.

Reply to  mark from the midwest
October 5, 2019 10:29 am

Midwest Mark

The same people award the economics prize so it might as well be called a “Nobel Prize”.

Rocketscientist
Reply to  tonyb
October 5, 2019 9:59 am

The Nobel prizes used to have significance. Sadly the past awards are being diminished by such dangerously foolish “promotions”, which if actual enacted would more likely cause the exact opposite to the intent of the award.

Reply to  Rocketscientist
October 5, 2019 12:38 pm

The Nobel Peace Prizes has become politicized instrument of the extreme left.

The Nobel Peace Prize is now a black mark on your life’s achievements – it marks you as a scoundrel and/or an imbecile.

Reply to  Rocketscientist
October 5, 2019 9:57 pm

Following is a list of Nobel Peace Prize Winners:

Let’s pick one:
International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons 2017

How’s that workin’ out for ya?

Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons 2013
European Union 2012
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change 2007
Intl. Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War 1985
Office of UN High Commission for Refugees 1981
Amnesty International 1977 Worldwide

Same question!

Here is a partial rogues gallery:

i can International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons 2017 Geneva
Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons 2013 Worldwide
European Union 2012 Europe
Barack Obama, US President 2009 United States
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change 2007 Switzerland
Albert Arnold Gore Jr. 2007 United States
Jimmy Carter, former president of USA 2002 United States
The United Nations 2001 Worldwide
Kofi Annan, UN Secretary General 2001 Ghana
International Campaign to Ban Landmines 1997 Worldwide
Pugwash Conference (of scholars against conflict) 1995 Worldwide
Yasir Arafat 1994 Palestine
Shimon Peres 1994 Israel
Yitzhak Rabin 1994 Israel
Frederik W. de Klerk, President of South Africa 1993 South Africa
Nelson Mandela, later President of South Africa 1993 South Africa
Mikhail S. Gorbachev 1990 Soviet Union
Intl. Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War 1985 United States
Bishop Desmond Tutu 1984 South Africa
Office of UN High Commission for Refugees 1981 Worldwide
Anwar Sadat, President of Egypt 1978 Egypt
Menachem Begin 1978 Israel
Amnesty International 1977 Worldwide

Walter Sobchak
Reply to  Rocketscientist
October 6, 2019 7:57 pm

Allan left out my favorite Peace prize. 1992 the Prize was awarded to Rigoberta Menchu. She was the semi-literate woman whose as told to “memoir” was written by the wife of French Communist Regis Debray, most famous as a pal of communist terrorist Che Guevara. It was total garbage, but Rigoberta got the prize.

Questing Vole
Reply to  Rocketscientist
October 7, 2019 8:55 am

An award to St Greta, the Swedish Frightingale, would be one more nail in the coffin of the Nobel Prizes’ credibility.
Such a shame. They still – occasionally – go to deserving nominees, but their merit is diluted by the number undeserving recipients on the past awards list.
Makes me wonder: has anyone ever refused a Nobel Prize?

Mike Ellwood
Reply to  Rocketscientist
October 7, 2019 9:39 am

To:

“Questing Vole October 7, 2019 at 8:55 am

Makes me wonder: has anyone ever refused a Nobel Prize?”

Grouch Marx probably would have.

Kemaris
Reply to  tonyb
October 5, 2019 1:20 pm

The Nobel Peace Prize for promoting enforced scarcity so that people and nations will have to fight more over the limited resources we are still allowed to access? No doubt the nations will have an easy time recruiting dung farmers from the midst of the windmills that provide electricity for the nobles.

Or maybe she was nominated for the Nobel War Prize?

Photios
Reply to  tonyb
October 5, 2019 1:26 pm

I think she’s up for the “Peace (Mann) Prize”

GPHanner
Reply to  Mark
October 5, 2019 9:21 am

Play the system expertly?? The system begs to be played by one and all. The system is rigged to be played. What amazes me is that so many alleged adults are taking the tantrums of a school girl seriously.

Rhoda R
Reply to  GPHanner
October 5, 2019 8:49 pm

Next we’ll find the NPP in Cracker Jacks boxes.

Reply to  Rhoda R
October 6, 2019 8:31 am

I thought exactly the same thing. But, alas, you beat me to it. And to top it off I’m out of Cracker Jacks.

Tom Gelsthorpe
Reply to  Mark
October 5, 2019 10:28 am

Touché!

Kenji
Reply to  Brent Hargreaves
October 5, 2019 7:58 am

Yes, little Greta … you are one of the lucky ones. You live in a modern, technological, fossil-fueled Western Capitalist wonderland. Built on the heavy use of fossil fuels. Let me know when you move to a cabin in the woods, fueled entirely by solar panels and wind turbines. Your Nobel Prize would be awarded posthumously… after you were found froze to death.

RobbertBobbert
Reply to  Kenji
October 5, 2019 8:14 pm

Kenji.
Miss Thunberg is Swedish and thrives on Fossil Fuels and…Swedens electric supply is predominately Nuclear…and Hydro.

Electricity production in Sweden is dominated by nuclear power and hydroelectricity which currently make about equal contributions to energy production, for which demand has remained fairly constant since 1990……..Sweden has three operational nuclear power plants with 8 operational nuclear reactors, which produce about 35-40% of the country’s electricity.[1] The nation’s largest power station, Ringhals Nuclear Power Plant, has four reactors and generates about 15 percent of Sweden’s annual electricity consumption.[2]…..Sweden formerly had a nuclear phase-out policy, aiming to end nuclear power generation in Sweden by 2010. On 5 February 2009, the Government of Sweden announced an agreement allowing for the replacement of existing reactors, effectively ending the phase-out policy……Wikipedia…

Trash accounts for a small portion of Sweden’s overall power supply; hydro and nuclear energy generate about 83 percent of Sweden’s electricity, and wind generates another 7 percent….But garbage supplies much of the heat during cold months for the country’s nearly 10 million residents. Energy from trash equals the heating demand of 1.25 million apartments and electricity for 680,000 homes…(according to NYT).
However, garbage-fueled power plants are not a clean energy source. Some opponents claim these power plants are a “false solution” that green-washes dirty incineration.

“The process of burning trash is inherently polluting,” said Leah Kelly, senior attorney with the Environmental Integrity Project, a nonprofit based in Washington. “You can put state-of-the-art pollution controls on an incinerator in the same way that you can a coal plant, but that doesn’t make the facility clean.”…NYT, In Sweden, Trash Heats Homes, Powers Buses and Fuels Taxi Fleets…
So Sweden relies on Nuke…Hydro, Oil and garbage to power the nation..

I would request that WUWT readers who know of such things to explain how polluting, or otherwise, is such garbage conversion.

What would it take for Sweden to close its Nuke and Garbage programs and replace it with Wind and Solar by 2030? (is that still the next date for The Armageddon or has that changed again)…
Sweden and Solar…As If…
Possibly a question for Miss Thunberg but more likely it should be directed to her financially flush wranglers…

Kenji
Reply to  RobbertBobbert
October 6, 2019 4:55 am

Why did you fail to add … close their hydroelectric plants along with stopping nuclear and trash burning? I don’t know a single “environmentalist” here in my State of CA who support hydroelectric power. None. Why. Because it forever destroys the natural environment. It dams-up wild rivers and floods valleys as beautiful as the Yosemite Valley. There is a serious movement here in CA to tear down the Hetch Hetchy Reservoir which supplies all of San Francisco’s water and part of its power.

Gotta take hydro power off the “acceptable” eco-dolt power source as well.

Mike Ellwood
Reply to  RobbertBobbert
October 7, 2019 1:31 am

Well, if Greta were to start campaigning for a sensible expansion of nuclear energy by further research of, and investment in, “4th Gen” technology like Molten Salt Reactors and the Integrated Fast Reactor, that would be better than what she’s doing now.

Perhaps while she is in the USA, she should visit Oak Ridge NL and Argonne NL, and then spend some months (or years) studying some real science.

Pillage Idiot
Reply to  Brent Hargreaves
October 5, 2019 8:02 am

This old joke is still relevant for those who are utterly ignorant of economics.

Question: How did socialists light their homes before candles?
Answer: Electricity.

David Chappell
October 5, 2019 6:14 am

St Nobel Greta would be up there in the list of idiot decisions along with Obama and Gore.

steve case
Reply to  David Chappell
October 5, 2019 6:32 am

David Chappell October 5, 2019 at 6:14 am
St Nobel Greta would be up there in the list of idiot decisions along with Obama and Gore.

… and just maybe Yasser Arafat

David Chappell
Reply to  steve case
October 5, 2019 6:55 am

Yes, but at least he wasn’t in on the climate scam.

Rainer Bensch
Reply to  David Chappell
October 5, 2019 7:26 am

Grace of the early dæth?

Reply to  David Chappell
October 5, 2019 7:30 am

At least Yasser Arafat received the prize because he made a peace deal.

Greg
Reply to  Hans Erren
October 5, 2019 8:25 am

he made a peace deal? Oh yeah. Maybe that’s why it used to be called a Peace Prize.

Now it’s a Piece Prize as in POS.

Reply to  Hans Erren
October 5, 2019 2:35 pm

Well, All Hallows’ Eve – Halloween – is coming.
Has anyone seen any ad for a Scary Climate Activist mask?
Perhaps with narrowed eyes?
An a speak-your-weight attachment that growls, or squeaks, ‘How Dare You?’?

Round here, most Halloween callers are about five years old – with Mum or Dad about a yard away – so the masks need not be too scary!

And, less than a week later, it’s Bonfire Night here.
Which effigy to burn?
The field is enormous – all the You-Row-apparatchiks; Barnier, Rompoo-ey, Juncker (with bottles), Tusk; lots of Liberal Democrats who simply ignore democracy [and may not be very liberal if you disagree with them]; Tories who are further left than Tony B. Liar [and most Dem candidates in the US], but the Tories, at least, are so wet you could flush them down the khazi and not notice . . . .

Auto

John the Econ
October 5, 2019 6:16 am

Hardly a surprise. The Nobel Peace Prize kinda lost it’s relevancy when they started giving it to people like Yasser Arafat. Since, it’s been more a broadcast of Progressive hopes and dreams than a reward for anything actually achieving peace, especially when it was given to Barack Obama before he’d actually achieved anything more relevant than getting elected.

They’re giving it to Greta not because of any particularly brilliant insight on her part. She’ll get it because she broadcasts the narrative they wish broadcast.

Latitude
Reply to  John the Econ
October 5, 2019 6:53 am

She’ll get it because she’s made up to look 10 years old….and the mean…I’m serious…grouchy face
…what an act

Reply to  Latitude
October 5, 2019 10:06 am

She’s 16, but she looks like 10 and talks like 4.

Reply to  Ralph Dave Westfall
October 5, 2019 10:39 am

You can make jokes, Westfall, but Ms. Thunderberg is currently first on the list for my climate science blog’s well respected annual prize: “Climate Buffoon of the Year”.

Alexandria Occasionally Coherent was trying hard to catch Ms. Thunderberg, but has recently been distracted by impeachment.

Mr. Obama won in 2018 for his bizarre statements about climate change:
http://elonionbloggle.blogspot.com/2018/11/barack-obama-honest-global-warming.html

Nicholas McGinley
Reply to  Richard Greene
October 6, 2019 12:06 am

Apparently AOC has the attention span of a 10 year old.
Now that impeachment fever is approaching the boiling point, she announces she is “over it”.
Very amusing, considering she was pushing hard for impeachment since the day after the election.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/10/04/ocasio-cortez-says-trump-impeachment-effort-boring-over/

Robin Matyjasek
Reply to  Ralph Dave Westfall
October 5, 2019 2:01 pm

Hey, steady on. That’s grossly unfair to 4-year-olds…

Slacko
Reply to  Ralph Dave Westfall
October 5, 2019 6:56 pm

“… and talks like 4.”

Yeah. She needs to learn how to constrict her throat muscles tightly around her larynx so she can squawk like other females under forty.
(When did girls invent that, anyway?)

Roger Knights
Reply to  John the Econ
October 5, 2019 9:08 am

“it was given to Barack Obama before he’d actually achieved anything more relevant than getting elected.”

Att the time, I said here that it was likely partly given to him because his acceptance speech would coincide in time and space with the Copenhagen climate conference. I.e., I suspect it was hoped that this propinquity would incline him to attend it.

Reply to  Roger Knights
October 5, 2019 10:17 am

OBAMA WAS AT WAR EVERY DAY OF HIS EIGHT YEARS = SO HE DESERVED THE PEACE PRIZE

Photios
Reply to  John the Econ
October 5, 2019 1:32 pm

‘The Nobel Peace Prize kinda lost it’s relevancy
when they started giving it to people like Yasser Arafat.”
Yasser Arafat? Hah! Henry Kissinger and Lee Duc Tho got it first.

2hotel9
Reply to  Photios
October 6, 2019 8:50 am

Glad you pointed that pout! Now we all know you are a terrorist supporting moron. Buhbye, babee.

rbabcock
October 5, 2019 6:28 am

If she is really sincere, she will share it with Michael Mann.. oh wait.

Editor
Reply to  rbabcock
October 5, 2019 8:45 am

On a serious note, one can almost feel sorry for Mann. Whatever we might think of his output, he has gained a Phd, written many serious papers, carried out lots of research, attended conferences, sat at the top table and after all that it seems a pouty, over excitable and exceptionally rude teenager prone to a Pinnochio syndrome might waltz away with ‘his’ prize.

I did say ‘almost’ feel sorry, but many genuine scientists of whatever type must feel affronted IF the prize goes to Greta.

tonyb

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  tonyb
October 5, 2019 9:34 am

Many genuine scientist don’t care one iota for the ‘peace prize’. They do, however, for the real Nobel Prizes, the ones in chemistry and physics.

J Mac
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
October 5, 2019 2:06 pm

+10!

Cosmic
October 5, 2019 6:29 am

Ick. Ick, and more ick. ZERO respect for anything Nobel peacers think and do.

joe the non climate scientist
October 5, 2019 6:30 am

Contrast haiti & the dominican republic

Same with contrasting soviet russia/eastern europe vs western europe/united states – massive improvement when capitalism began taking hold after the collapse of Iron fist of communism

Yet – the activists believe you can clean up the environment the expansion of socialism/ another version of communism

Mike McMillan
Reply to  joe the non climate scientist
October 5, 2019 9:14 am

Dominican Republic subsidizes fossil fuel use to make it cheaper. Haiti doesn’t, so the folks there burn wood. One of the few instances where government subsidies have a positive effect.

Stephen Skinner
October 5, 2019 6:35 am

So lets use Bio fuels then. We can make them from Palm Oil, Rapeseed, Soy and Sugar Cane. The EU imports 7,000,000 tons of Palm Oil and almost two-thirds of that is used for energy. That is 4,500,000 tons of Palm Oil used to make energy to save the planet from burning coal.
Drax power station imports wood pellets into the UK to burn instead of coal and the intention is to replace coal completely. Drax gets it’s wood pellet from USA (62%), Canada (17%), Latvia (10%), Estonia (4%), Portugal (3%), Brazil (1%), Belorus (1%) and the UK (1%). All this is called Environmental Sustainability.
The law of unintended consequences is being given so many new examples it’s hard to keep up.

Scissor
Reply to  Stephen Skinner
October 5, 2019 7:23 am

Destroy the environment to save it. How dare you?

Stephen Skinner
Reply to  Scissor
October 5, 2019 8:57 am

@Scissor – How dare I? Very good and I see what you did there. Anyway, you have to be 16 or under or a 16 year old Nobel prize winner to be able to scold properly. It won’t work if you have age or experience.

bonbon
October 5, 2019 6:36 am

Someone should warn Greta that being invited to the Nobel Dinner could turn out to be the Green New Meal.

Robert W. Turner
Reply to  bonbon
October 5, 2019 8:42 am
Mark Broderick
Reply to  Robert W. Turner
October 5, 2019 9:49 am

Ha ! I knew Democrats were really aliens….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk01eeKMD_I

Homer Knew……..D’OH !

Sara
Reply to  bonbon
October 5, 2019 11:52 am

Carnivores like me require animal proteins. We could just make sandwiches out of the soylent consumers, you know.

Mike Ellwood
Reply to  bonbon
October 5, 2019 4:22 pm

Will she fly back to Sweden to receive her prize…?

Tom Higley
October 5, 2019 6:36 am

As a youngster, I used to think that winning the Nobel Prize was a great accomplishment. Perhaps there was a time when it was. But after Gore and Obama were awarded the prize, I realized that it is a politically motivated farce. My childhood dreams have been stolen from me.

Editor
Reply to  Tom Higley
October 5, 2019 10:09 am

There is more than one Nobel Prize! They are awarded by different committees. Perhaps you can focus on the non-Norwegian prizes in the future. 🙂

Gary Pearse
Reply to  Ric Werme
October 5, 2019 4:52 pm

And you don’t think these will be corrupted in the same way, Ric? They’ll find a way to give the physics and chemistry prizes for ‘discoveries’ in Climate sciences, say research on “proving” man is definitely guilty of planet destruction, or converting coal into algae or s9me other worthless piece of work. Medicine prize is a no brainer – saving us all from a climate athsma epidemic with a procedure to retrofit us with a CO2 mask that converts CO2 to biodiesel.

Bill Parsons
Reply to  Gary Pearse
October 5, 2019 11:29 pm

Somebody out there is bound to discover the sinister implication of bland weather. It is certainly the harbinger of bad times… it’s an ill wind that doesn’t blow very hard.

More on this as I work the details out.

Reply to  Gary Pearse
October 6, 2019 8:57 am

I guess I could live with the CO2 mask, but the methane harvester scares the willies out of me.

H.R.
October 5, 2019 6:37 am

From the article Eric posted:

[…] where she invoked the wrath of Donald Trump […]

No wonder it’s called Fake News. President Trump ignored her. If I saw any wrath, it was in the look on St. Greta’s face as President Trump breezed by without so much as a glance in St. Greta’s direction.

Now there was some wrath for you if you want to see wrath.

J Mac
Reply to  H.R.
October 5, 2019 2:27 pm

H.R.,
I knew something would eventually replace the ‘Grumpy Cat’ meme…. but had no idea that it would be ‘Grumpy Greta’ and her supporting cadres of grumpy ReGretables. It’s a strange form of fictional beliefs driving the self-induced misery she espouses and her acolytes embrace.

bonbon
October 5, 2019 6:42 am

I agree the young lady intervening at the AOC meeting with devastating Swift satire should get the Emmy Award or an Oscar for the best performance this year.
She captured the hysterical climate monotone perfectly!

https://www.c-span.org/video/?464847-1/representative-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-holds-town-hall-meeting

Gunnar Dalen
October 5, 2019 6:49 am

The Old man Alfred flipped around many years ago. And thanks to this cartoon-committee he won’t turn back anyway soon.

Flight Level
October 5, 2019 6:53 am

Another institution goes down the drain…

Just how much payola it took to get there ?

Moderately Cross of East Anglia
October 5, 2019 6:55 am

Please remember that just a few months before WW2 started a Swedish social democrat member of Parliament nominated Adolph Hitler to receive the Nobel Peace Prize. Astonishing as that is today, it should serve as a reminder what a farce this particular prize is.

Mussolini got a nomination too I think, but I prefer to think it was because he wrote plays. I’ve never managed to track down the text of any of his plays, but I do hope there is one about the draining of the Pontine marshes as it is so easy to imagine the kind of dreadful lines that he could have written. Perhaps the world agreed back then to track down every copy and destroy them to save posterity’s sanity. That didn’t work out that well I suppose.

Reply to  Moderately Cross of East Anglia
October 5, 2019 3:44 pm

It would be interesting to know which PM!

The hypocritical party of concern are busy with criticizing the Swedish Democrats due to their National Socialistic roots. Well, SD ‘only’ had sympathies among some of the original members, but they are long gone (booted). The Swedish Social ‘Democrates’ indeed performed that kind of stuff back in the 1930’s and 1940’s for sure, just like the two German counterparts, maybe earlier and continued until 1975. (Some of it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilisation_in_Sweden https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_camps_in_Sweden_during_World_War_II )

Today, they are shuting down anyone who dare to criticize their failed politics, just like in the 1930’s …

guido LaMoto
October 5, 2019 6:57 am

Well, they certainly couldn’t give her The Prize for Science.

H.R.
Reply to  guido LaMoto
October 5, 2019 8:08 am

No, she’s not going to get that one.

However, Greta may walk away with the Bulwer-Lytton Award.

https://www.bulwer-lytton.com/

Robin Matyjasek
Reply to  H.R.
October 5, 2019 2:07 pm

Hmmm. She’s certainly be an odds-on favourite for the Dunning-Kruger prize… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

joe - the non climate scientist
Reply to  guido LaMoto
October 5, 2019 8:15 am

Just a note that Nobel Prize that Mann didnt win was the peace prize – not the Nobel prize for science

mikewaite
Reply to  guido LaMoto
October 5, 2019 9:26 am

But she is going to receive a doctorate :
-“In May 2019, the University of Mons announced it had awarded a doctor honoris causa (honorary degree) to Thunberg. The doctoral diploma and insignia will be bestowed at the official opening of the university’s 2019-2020 academic year on 10 October 2019.[109]-” (Wiki)
We will have to be careful to refer to her always as “Dr Thunberg”, otherwise we will get one of those stares, and we don’t want that do we?

Rocketscientist
Reply to  mikewaite
October 5, 2019 10:08 am

Dr. of what exactly?
There goes their reputation. Did they have one before?
If I had been granted one of those degrees before, I would return it.

David Chappell
Reply to  Rocketscientist
October 5, 2019 9:42 pm

Doctorum Adamuscum Flabello Dulci (credit Terry Pratchett. “Jingo”)

For the Classical non-scholars: Doctor of Sweet Fanny Adams.
More vulgarly it may be Doctorum Futuo Omnium

Reply to  mikewaite
October 6, 2019 9:25 am

Bill Cosby has a “Doctorate” like that. I doubt too many are calling him “Doctor.”

Editor
Reply to  guido LaMoto
October 5, 2019 10:11 am

There is no “The Prize for Science.”

Jeff Labute
October 5, 2019 6:58 am

Jacinda Ardern (Christchurch) is also nominated for a Nobel peace prize just for doing her job. I suppose It’s even lost more meaning since Arafat.

David Chappell
October 5, 2019 6:59 am

Slightly off topic, but does anyone know who is paying the immaculate saint’s bill while she’s skipping school?

Natalie Gordon
Reply to  David Chappell
October 5, 2019 7:10 am

Soros

Sunny
Reply to  Natalie Gordon
October 5, 2019 7:37 am

Natalie Gordon

Do you have any proof of this please, as I am genuinely interested as to greta and her familys finances.

Carl Friis-Hansen
Reply to  Sunny
October 5, 2019 9:49 am

From https://petterssonsblogg.se/2019/06/30/tar-greta-thunberg-betalt/
“… Hon säger dock att hon ibland får betalt men att dessa pengar skänks till välgörenhet. …”
“… She says that she gets paid from time to time, but these money are given to charity. …”

So, from the sound of it, her own wealthy family is most likely paying for the trip.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Sunny
October 5, 2019 10:09 am

Her coach is leftist activist Luisa-Marie Neubauer, member of the One Foundation, backed by Soros among others. That is but one smoking gun. There are likely many others.

Vuk
October 5, 2019 7:04 am

Marie Curie, Albert Einstein, Richard Feynman and Greta Thunberg members of the same club ? !
I hope not.

Reply to  Vuk
October 5, 2019 7:33 am

Please don’t compare the political peace prize with real science prizes.

Natalie Gordon
October 5, 2019 7:08 am

I lost all respect for the Peace Prize committee when they gave the terrorist Yasser Arafat the prize for lying through his teeth about peace while planning the intifada. The leftists were urging the committee to take it away from Rabin and Peres, not Arafat, when Arafat started the intifada and the Israelis had the unmitigated gall to defend themselves! Still, there would be one good thing about giving it to Greta as compared to giving it to Obama. At least Greta has actually done something.

Bruce Cobb
October 5, 2019 7:19 am

I just have this to say about Greta receiving the Nobble:
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2hotel9
October 5, 2019 7:20 am

Barrack Obozo got one simply for buying an election, so why not a mentally damaged teenager next. It further illustrates how worthless the Nobel has become.

October 5, 2019 7:27 am

Why am I not surprised after Al Gore?

Michael in Dublin
October 5, 2019 7:29 am

If you denounce Greta “as a liar or hypocrite” according to the Independent you must be a “right-wing” critic “with little evidence” – yet this same paper refrains from mentioning the arguments these critics use to substantiate their views.

If you denounce her, you are no different from “Mr Trump, a notorious climate sceptic”. The Independent seems not to have noticed that the best scientists down the centuries have been sceptical not dogmatic and unquestioning people.

She should receive the Nobel Peace Prize because other celebrities who liberals idolize have received the prize – even though the track record of these recipients after receiving the prize are nothing to write home about.

Mark Broderick
October 5, 2019 7:34 am

What does “environmentalism” have to do with “peace” ?

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  Mark Broderick
October 5, 2019 9:45 am

The peace of the grave?

Michael Jankowski
Reply to  Mark Broderick
October 5, 2019 9:55 am

Yeah getting up before the UN and scolding them seems hardly peaceful.

MarkW
Reply to  Mark Broderick
October 5, 2019 4:39 pm

When socialists get more free stuff, they get more peaceful.

Johann Wundersamer
Reply to  Mark Broderick
October 14, 2019 6:23 am

Mark Broderick October 5, 2019 at 7:34 am

What does “environmentalism” have to do with “peace” ?
____________________________________________

Greta Thunberg stands for environmentalism and is of Swedish citizenship:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Greta+Thunberg+citizenship&oq=Greta+Thunberg+citizenship&aqs=chrome.

Alfred Nobel stands for the Nobel Peace Prize, invented methods for transportation of fertilisers called “Nobel Dynamite” and is of Swedish citizenship:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Alfred+Nobel+citizenship&oq=Alfred+Nobel+citizenship+&aqs=chrome.

Anders Breivig broke the Peace with fertilisers made by Nobel Dynamite. He is of Norwegian citizenship:

https://www.google.com/search?q=breivig+anders+citizenship&oq=breivig+anders+citizenship+&aqs=chrome.

Sunny
October 5, 2019 7:35 am

Who is paying for all of er traveling???? Also, Has sweden stopped using fossil fuels? All of them, down to all plastic products, all electrical products, windows with seals. Farm vehicles, has the Swedish defence industry stopped all fossil fuel use??

Only reason she is lucky, is down to fossil fuels..

“And yet I’m one of the lucky ones. People are suffering. People are dying. Entire ecosystems are collapsing”

icisil
October 5, 2019 7:38 am

Libya was the most prosperous nation in Africa. Now there is constant war and open slave markets thanks to Obama. The Nobel committee still hasn’t asked for their peace prize back. Kabuki theater.

Sheri
October 5, 2019 7:38 am

The Nobel Prize is a joke and has been for decades. Liars, cads and terrorists win it. If you win it, I assume you are a bad person.

Jim Watson
October 5, 2019 7:43 am

Speaking of Greta, is she back home in Sweden yet? If so, how did she get there? Kayak? Water wings? Airbus A340?

David Chappell
Reply to  Jim Watson
October 5, 2019 10:34 am

No she seems to be still out-staring the US. A couple of days ago she was reportedly in Ohio – presumably as part of the long walk home.

bonbon
Reply to  David Chappell
October 6, 2019 2:55 am

Heading to Chile now, after decarbonizing Iowa.

Editor
October 5, 2019 7:44 am

She win it, despite no new insights or relevancy since what she says has been said many times before. She is an obvious front for adults who have socialist plans to put in place.

There has been no increased peace or science understanding or contribution from her, thus her win is all POLITICAL.

Martin Howard Keith Brumby
October 5, 2019 7:55 am

I find it interesting that the very people here in the UK saying that everyone must listen to Saint Greta because she’s “telling the truth” to those in power, also say that Shamima Begum (who ran off to join ISIS in Syria and become an ISIS bride and is still entirely indifferent to the beheaded aid workers etc) should be forgiven and welcomed back home ‘because she was only a fifteen year old girl and counld’t be expected to understand what she was doing’.
HOW DARE YOU?

Troels Junge
October 5, 2019 7:56 am

Someone spreading panic is nominated for a peace price. Someone being instructed to and acting so well should have an Oscar. It’s a farce and anyone having recieved the Nobel price for solid decent work previously would likely be embraced for having a retarded and abused child as their peer…..but probably they already are after Al Gore and Obama

Insufficiently Sensitive
October 5, 2019 8:02 am

because of her efforts to raise awareness of the damage fossil fuels are causing to the environment.

Humph. Her efforts SHOULD raise awareness of the dangers of politically generated stampedes. A scolding brat quoting slogans fits that picture perfectly, while ‘science’ is nowhere in the picture except as one of the slogans.

Viper
October 5, 2019 8:02 am

We can laugh, but doing so ignores the prospective damage. Such recognition would be another major legitimization of baseless but destructive environmental alarm. It is inevitable from a relentless political assault that is ignored without concrete challenge.

Trump had an opportunity to confront the hysteria with substance and, thereby, repeal the EPA’s endangerment finding – Opportunity missed. Now Trump has bigger fish to fry.

James Bull
October 5, 2019 8:05 am

OH WOW
I didn’t see that coming I am so surprised I can hardly contain my surprisedness, she must have stopped wars, freed prisoners of conscience and so made the world a safer better place!
SARC SARC SARC SARC

All it truly does is show how baseless the awards are now and are handed out for towing the party line (selling your soul)

James Bull

michael hart
October 5, 2019 8:14 am

I’ve been watching many YouTube channels recently which covered the griefly outpourings of St Greta of Thunberg in a less than charitable light.

OK, it’s a self-selecting sample to some extent, but many of these channels usually have little or nothing to say about global-warming, and often toe the alarmist line when they do.

Yet they seem almost unanimous in that the world should not be paying any attention at all to a very ignorant 16 year old girl, no matter how angry and frightened she has been made by adults who ought to know better.

Most adults clearly do know better. Those devoted to “the cause” have seriously shot themselves in the foot with this one.

Robin Matyjasek
Reply to  michael hart
October 5, 2019 2:15 pm

It seems that she might have been named after some Scottish ancestors: https://literalbarrage.org/blog/2005/02/03/your-scottish-slang-word-o-the-day-greet/

Karl-Johan Lehtinen
October 5, 2019 8:19 am

Tells more about the Swedish MPs intellectual capacities than about Greta.

MikeH
October 5, 2019 8:23 am

If the Nobel committee doesn’t bestow the prize unto St. Greta, they will certainly be admonished for for hating the children. The wrath of St. Greta will be unleashed upon the committee with a series of “HOW DARE YOU STEAL MY NOBEL PRIZE FROM ME”

The image from Willie Wonka and the Chocolate Factory of the little girl Veruca Salt throwing a tantrum to get a goose that lays a golden egg came to mind:
https://youtu.be/Pqsy7V0wphI

Robert W. Turner
October 5, 2019 8:30 am

War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength

Freezedried
Reply to  Robert W. Turner
October 5, 2019 8:57 am

Robert, you forgot:

Weather is climate.

MarkW
Reply to  Freezedried
October 5, 2019 4:40 pm

except when it’s getting colder

Clyde Spencer
October 5, 2019 8:35 am

Eric
I believe you have used this picture before. I have two questions: 1) Are there armed guards regularly patrolling the border between the two countries to prevent trespassing and theft of firewood from the forested side? and 2) Why is there a patch of land in the upper left side of the picture, with the same aspect (compass direction) and equally dense vegetation as the area on the right?

Vegetation is strongly controlled by slope, aspect, and underlying bedrock and produce very different kinds of vegetation even in the same general areas.

icisil
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
October 5, 2019 8:48 am

Based on the steep terrain, there is likely a river or mountain stream separating the two countries. Transporting wood across something like that is not feasible.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  icisil
October 5, 2019 1:32 pm

icisil
There is indeed a stream separating the two countries at the location of the picture. It is not a major river. Wood floats, so if you are desperate for alternatives to fossil fuels, I’m sure the locals could find a way to get it across the stream.

Streams often develop along fault lines where there are either rocks of different erodibility, or brecciated rocks in the fault zone, which tend to be more erodible than the unfractured rocks. That being the case, it is possible that there are different kinds of rocks on the east and west sides.

Fran
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
October 5, 2019 9:24 am

According to my brother who did 2 tours as an aid worker in Haiti, ALL of Haiti is pretty well denuded of vegetation. He was working in Gonaive on recovery from a Hurricane that had occurred 2 years before – installing casings around wells to prevent run off contamination and toilets that did not run into the high water table. Mud 1-2 feet deep still lay in most homes and streets. There was total social breakdown with the whole population on relief and basically incapable of any constructive actions to better themselves. Women were regularly raped when they went out of the town to defecate in the surrounding area. The earthquake had occurred at about that time, but he continued on the Gonaive project.

Jim C
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
October 5, 2019 9:34 am

There’s a bit of colonial-era history behind Haiti’s deforestation (and poverty).

After the Haitians rebelled and killed their previous French owners (as well as their wives and children) in the early 19th C, France demanded financial reparations and imposed a blockad. The Haitians sold a lot of their forests’ trees to raise the money to meet the payments.

icisil
Reply to  Jim C
October 5, 2019 12:59 pm

Why hasn’t it grown back?

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  icisil
October 5, 2019 1:37 pm

I’d suggest going to Google Earth and zoom in on the boundary between the two countries. Eric cherry-picked one of the best examples to support his thesis. I have followed the entire trace of the boundary and I have found examples where there is no visible difference between the two sides, and I have found examples where the situation is reversed.

It also looks like the eastern side of the island generally has higher elevations and steeper terrain. The higher elevations favor cooler temperatures and more rain. The steeper terrain discourages farming, which requires clearing of the land.

I think that Eric has gone a bridge too far.

bonbon
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
October 6, 2019 2:58 am

I was wondering too why he took that rickety bridge. To show industry? Or is it his sandbox?

MikeH
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
October 5, 2019 1:14 pm

Clyde, you bring up a good point. Sometimes the picture doesn’t tell the whole story, especially if it specifically cropped to leave out information that contradicts the narrative. The political left is an expert at that.
So, I pulled up Google (always an unbiased information source… /sarc) and put in for maps of the Dominican Republic. I then did satellite view of the whole island. Zooming into the defined border between the two countries, yes, there is a noticeable tone difference between the two countries, very sharp demarcation at the border. A darker, richer green on the DR side. On the Haitian side, much lighter, some places even barren . Sure, zooming in one can find a few places on the DR side that are barren, and on the Haitian side rich in vegetation. But overall, the DR side is abundant with vegetation, the Haitian side has noticeably less.

Trust, but verify..

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  MikeH
October 5, 2019 1:41 pm

MikeH
I did verify. However, I’d be unwilling to reach the conclusion that Eric did without seeing a topographic map and geologic map of the island. A landuse map would also be instructive.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  MikeH
October 5, 2019 2:06 pm

MikeH
Historically, political boundaries have often been established along obvious differences in topography. That is, rivers and mountain ranges have often been used as boundaries. Mountains (below the timber line) generally are more vegetated in non-glaciated terrains than the surrounding areas because they harvest more moisture from orographic uplift. Mountains also present more of a barrier to harvesting and transporting trees for native people who don’t have access to machinery. Also, mountains are more difficult areas for subsistence farming because of the shallow soils and sparsity of flat land. Thus, there is less pressure on the environment because of the lower population density.

Clearly, charcoal production has had an impact on the land in Haiti. But, I think the case is overstated. A country with scarce natural resources often has to resort to activities that exacerbate the conditions. Thus, it is easy to confuse cause and effect.

October 5, 2019 8:42 am

Greta is a secular saint of a faction that has declared war upon normal middle-class living.
Enjoying unprecedented prosperity, health and longevity that is mainly due to free association and markets.
And the face of anger and war will likely get the Nobel Peace Prize.

Toto
October 5, 2019 8:45 am

Current betting odds from a Norwegian site.
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Forget Joan of Arc, Greta is the new pope.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Robert W. Turner
October 5, 2019 1:47 pm

Robert W. Turner
Many of the photos showing the contrast between the two countries appear to be the same area as Eric chose to use. It must be the best example.

Rex Tasha
October 5, 2019 8:53 am

I do not see a problem here. She deserves a Noble at least a much a Barack. While we are at it give one to Penn State’s Pillsbury Dough Mann because he wants one really bad.

Shoki Kaneda
October 5, 2019 8:58 am

Well, they gave one to Barry for doing nothing. Why shouldn’t Greta get one? In fact, let’s give one to everybody as a participation prize.

James Clarke
October 5, 2019 9:02 am

“And now, for her tireless efforts in spreading mass hysteria around the globe, and her relentless pursuit of the destruction of Western Civilization, we present this years Nobel Peace Prize to Ms. Greta Thunberg! Unfortunately, Greta could not be with us tonight because she is currently in Ottawa torturing preschoolers, but here to accept the prize on behalf of Greta is the one, the only, the man himself…Lucifer! Let’s give it up for him! Come on!”

Editor
October 5, 2019 9:19 am

According to https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/14/greta-thunberg-nominated-nobel-peace-prize she was nominated by mid March of this year.

“We have proposed Greta Thunberg because if we do nothing to halt climate change it will be the cause of wars, conflict and refugees,” said Norwegian Socialist MP Freddy André Øvstegård. “Greta Thunberg has launched a mass movement which I see as a major contribution to peace.”

“[I am] honoured and very grateful for this nomination,” said Thunberg on Twitter. Tomorrow we #schoolstrike for our future. And we will continue to do so for as long as it takes.” She has already challenged leaders in person at the UN climate summit in late 2018 and at Davos in January. “Change is coming whether they like it or not,” she said.

Michael Jankowski
Reply to  Ric Werme
October 5, 2019 9:56 am

…“Change is coming whether they like it or not,” she said…

The same can be said of climate. How ironic.

Dave O.
October 5, 2019 9:24 am

Hoping that not everyone in Sweden is that irrational.

Editor
Reply to  Dave O.
October 5, 2019 9:50 am

The committee for the Peace prize is in Norway, not Sweden.

MarkW
Reply to  Ric Werme
October 5, 2019 4:43 pm

I wonder if the Norwegians would be willing to give up all that money from North Sea oil that pays for all their socialism?

Jeff Alberts
October 5, 2019 9:27 am

When has she promoted peace? All she has done is foment division.

john
October 5, 2019 9:29 am

Greta Thunberg’s nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize has been lauded by mainstream media outlets and public figures in Europe, but not everyone is as enthusiastic. Only 15% of Germans welcome the idea, a new poll found.
66 percent of German citizens responded with a clear ‘no’ to the prospect of Thunberg being given the prestigious award, according to a YouGov survey on climate change and the environment. Only 15 percent supported the nomination and 19 percent were undecided.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rt.com/news/470196-thunberg-nobel-prize-poll/amp/

October 5, 2019 9:29 am

Czech historian Václav Vlk Sr, writes I am scared of innocent children, translated and endorsed by Lubos Motl. He puts Greta and the children’s crusade into nistorical context, and worries about the whirlwind to come.

At the end of his article, Veis exclaims with some pathos: “Who is afraid of the children?” Well, dear friend, I am afraid of radicalized, fanatical, abused children because the history teaches us – and the oldest generations still know from their experience – that there is no crime, no atrocity, and no monstrosity that wouldn’t have been committed by fanaticized youth. With songs on their lips and energized by the faith that they are doing the most correct things possible, while washing their hands in the buckets of blood. We have already seen it.

I am afraid of the so-called innocent children from the texts by Mr Jaroslav Veis and many others. But they are wrong. The fairy-tale boy said the truth but he didn’t demand the king to be killed and the kingdom to be destroyed. And that’s exactly what Greta is doing. So there is some difference, isn’t there?

When I say that I am afraid of them – I don’t mean that I am afraid of my life or my future. I will no longer join those who trust these liars and fanatics. And given my age… But what about our children and grandchildren? Who are marching like herds of enthusiastically bleating sheep on the Friday For Future rallies?

https://motls.blogspot.com/2019/10/i-am-scared-of-innocent-children.html

Bruce Cobb
October 5, 2019 9:37 am

She’ll begin her acceptance speech with “I shouldn’t be here. The Earth is dying. Animals are collapsing. Plants are frying. The heated acid oceans are killing corals, and fish, melting the ice and raising the seas. You have stolen my childhood and my future, and yet here you sit, spouting your empty, meaningless words, and doing nothing to stop it. HOW DARE YOU!

john
October 5, 2019 9:42 am

Now how about visiting China? The greenest route involves a shovel and a little patience!

Editor
October 5, 2019 9:48 am

I guess she has been nominated, one class of nominators per https://www.nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/ is “Members of national assemblies and national governments (cabinet members/ministers) of sovereign states as well as current heads of states”

However, keep in mind:

Are the nominations made public?

The statutes of the Nobel Foundation restrict disclosure of information about the nominations, whether publicly or privately, for 50 years. The restriction concerns the nominees and nominators, as well as investigations and opinions related to the award of a prize.

50 year secrecy rule

The Committee does not itself announce the names of nominees, neither to the media nor to the candidates themselves. In so far as certain names crop up in the advance speculations as to who will be awarded any given year’s Prize, this is either sheer guesswork or information put out by the person or persons behind the nomination. Information in the Nobel Committee’s nomination database is not made public until after fifty years.

Also, from https://www.nobelpeaceprize.org/Nomination :

Nomination

There are 301 candidates for the Nobel Peace Prize for 2019 out of which 223 are individuals and 78 are organizations.

301 is the fourth highest number of candidates ever. The current record of 376 candidates was reached in 2016.

Neither the names of nominators nor of nominees for the Nobel Peace Prize may be divulged until 50 years have elapsed.

alankwelch
October 5, 2019 9:49 am

If Greta becomes the first Messiah to win the Nobel Peace Prize what awards or achievements are left.
May I suggest:-
Winning School Egg and Spoon race assuming she ever goes back to school.
Fastest crossing of Atlantic by 16 year old on a yacht without a toilet.
Winning the Egremont Crab Fair Gurning Contest. (If wondering what this is Google it!)

Editor
October 5, 2019 9:53 am

We’ll find out on October 11. From https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/about/prize-announcement-dates

The 2019 Nobel Prize Announcements

The prize committees are currently working carefully and independently to select the recipients of the 2019 Nobel Prize and the Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel. The Laureates will be announced starting on 7 October, revealing the scientists, writers and peace workers who – in keeping with the vision of Alfred Nobel – have conferred the greatest benefit to mankind.
All the announcements will be streamed live on Nobelprize.org.

Monday 7 October, 11:30 a.m. at the earliest – The Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine
The Nobel Assembly at Karolinska Institutet, Wallenbergsalen, Nobel Forum, Nobels väg 1, Solna.

Tuesday 8 October, 11:45 a.m. at the earliest – The Nobel Prize in Physics
The Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences (Kungl. Vetenskapsakademien, KVA), Sessionssalen, Lilla Frescativägen 4A, Stockholm.

Wednesday 9 October, 11:45 a.m. at the earliest – The Nobel Prize in Chemistry
The Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, Sessionssalen, Lilla Frescativägen 4A, Stockholm.

Thursday 10 October, 1.00 p.m. at the earliest – The Nobel Prize in Literature
The Swedish Academy (Svenska Akademien), Börssalen, Källargränd 4, Stockholm.
Note: The Swedish Academy will announce the Nobel Prize in Literature for both 2018 and 2019.

Friday 11 October, 11:00 a.m. – The Nobel Peace Prize
The Norwegian Nobel Committee, The Norwegian Nobel Institute (Norska Nobelinstitutet), Store Sal, Henrik Ibsens gate 51, Oslo.

Monday 14 October, 11:45 a.m. at the earliest – The Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel
The Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, Sessionssalen, Lilla Frescativägen 4A, Stockholm.

Times listed are local time in Sweden and Norway.

A G R
October 5, 2019 10:01 am

One wonders when the UN will be told that they should find a new HQ location- rather than in the USA.
Is Greta familiar with the fate of the League of Nations?

Mark Broderick
October 5, 2019 10:18 am

What does “environmentalism” have to do with “peace” ?
The “environmentalists” are definitely not “peaceful” !

Rod Evans
October 5, 2019 10:21 am

Nobel committee…
“How dare you”!!

October 5, 2019 10:34 am

She needs a prize, but not that one. What is a prize comparable to the Rotten Tomato Prize ???

JPP

Carl Friis-Hansen
October 5, 2019 11:00 am

According to Wikipedia St. GT’s occupation is “Environmental activist”!?
It is new to me that there is an occupation called environmental activist, but that is probably because I am too old to know. I guess that has been my long life occupation too, as I have ever so often asked people to take their litter with them home, instead of spreading it all over the forest; engineering has just been my hobby, just as St. GT’s hobby is being a student.

Greytide
October 5, 2019 11:14 am

If she is awarded the Peace Prize, it is a real insult to those who have previously won it for making an active contribution to peace in the world. She has done NOTHING except rant. She doesn’t even have a grasp of the big picture (mind you, how many 16 yr olds do?) . It will be a travesty if it is awarded to her.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Greytide
October 5, 2019 12:42 pm

I don’t see any way it WON’T be awarded to her. That’s how messed up this world is.

mwhite
October 5, 2019 11:14 am

There’s nothing like forcing people into poverty to make the world a safe peaceful place.

David A Smith
October 5, 2019 12:07 pm

Climate Change Trans Counselling & Gretta

Larry Hamlin
October 5, 2019 12:47 pm

The Nobel Peace Prize lost any and all credibility after it was awarded to Obama, Al Gore and the U.N. IPCC based on pure politics having nothing to do with anything resembling meaningful results.

October 5, 2019 12:57 pm

O’Bummer got a Nobel Peace Prize for doing absolutely nothing. Why shouldn’t Greta Thunderbird get a Nobel Peace Prize for driving millions of children to the edge of madness? Next year Nobel Peace Prizes will be offered free in Cornflake Packets to lucky winners.

Len Werner
October 5, 2019 1:30 pm

According to Rupert Darwall in his book Green Tyranny, the Swedish ambassador to the UN from 1977 to 1982 was one Anders Thunberg, the international secretary of the Swedish Social Democratic Party. Does anyone know if there’s a connection?

whiten
October 5, 2019 1:57 pm

Still, very seriously and hard scratching my head in the consideration of this movie
“Idiocracy” actually propagating so strongly as prophetic… as some one else has already point it out.

Jealousy, the main and the proper path to acts of “noble cause corruption” especially when one no aware and completely blind to that condition… where and when all the rest of the features there involved only as permissible and justifiable add-ons on further fueling and inspiration of and towards the “noble cause corruption” activity.

cheers

Robin Matyjasek
October 5, 2019 1:57 pm

Greta speaking (sic) without a script… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bwLt_5t73g&feature=share. Speaks for itself, so to speak…

Bruce Cobb
October 5, 2019 2:28 pm

Greta’s mass movement is a “major contribution to peace” in the same way that Hitler’s mass movement was a major contribution to peace.

Clarky of Oz
October 5, 2019 2:34 pm

Some random, incoherent thoughts:

1. How dare they NOT award her the the prize. Imaging the outrage! No child would ever go to school again.
2. At least she won’t require a carbon fibre yacht to collect the loot.
or
3. Could the Committee take this opportunity correct an obvious oversight and award the prize to to a certain MM?

Rudolph Hucker
October 5, 2019 2:42 pm

Prize for taking the ‘peese’ would be more appropriate!

Toto
October 5, 2019 3:30 pm

Why Greta should win the Nobel Peace Prize. She has raised the bar. Instead of being worried for our grandchildren’s future, children now are worried about their own short term future. This will have the effect of instead of talking about it endlessly and doing nothing, now we will have demands that something be done now. It doesn’t matter what. Sacrifices will be demanded. We already are doing the token ones. Get ready for the real ones.

How soon before they realize that all the proposed solutions will fail to have any effect, and then they call for the final solution? The Final Solution. Either the Jim Jones version or the Pol Pot version. Or world war. All it takes is a leader with no social skills and R.I.P.

No, don’t encourage the fanatics.

Craig
October 5, 2019 3:47 pm

Obviously, the Nobel Peace Prize has NOTHING to do with what you know and EVERYTHING to do with your politics.

jbfl
October 5, 2019 4:49 pm

Virtual every solution I can think of to accomplish the warmist stated goals would lead total conflict world wide. Perhaps that is their ultimate goal. Remember the half century (plus some) solution. Reduce the world population by 90%.

cynicism R us.

C Lynch
October 5, 2019 5:17 pm

Just when I thought this prize couldn’t be any more devalued.

Mervyn
October 5, 2019 6:59 pm

If Greta Thunberg is awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, it will confirm we are now in a world of mass delusion.

I guess, like Al Gore and the IPCC, she will receive the NPP “for her efforts to build up and disseminate greater knowledge about man-made climate change and to lay the foundations for the measures that are needed to counteract such change.”

Krudd Gillard of the Commondebt of Australia
October 6, 2019 1:41 am

Award lost all credibility after it was awarded to Obama within months of him being elected in 2008.

Another insult to worthies like Mother Theresa.

William Haas
October 6, 2019 2:13 am

Maybe Greta should become the new head of the IPCC. Afterall the job does not require much in the way of education.

2hotel9
Reply to  William Haas
October 6, 2019 2:01 pm

Or basic intelligence, she is a shoe-in!

Sören F
October 6, 2019 2:25 am

I strongly doubt in, in that she just was just awarded the Right Livelihood Award: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_Livelihood_Award

Sören F
Reply to  Sören F
October 11, 2019 2:01 am

She didn’t get it.

David Kelly
October 6, 2019 1:49 pm

I suppose, given the radical left’s political’s adoption of “inclusion” and “intersectionality”, it was inevitable that former V.P. Gore be dismissed as an “old white guy” and be replaced by Greta Thunberg. Given the times, I suppose we can expect Greta, some time in the future, to declare herself to be a boy… thus keeping up with the lefty Jones’ and extending her future relevance in the “sky is falling” biz.

That said, I suppose we’ll have to keep up with the times – perhaps by replacing the term “Gore Effect” with “Thunberg Effect”. Given we appear to be headed for a solar minimum winter this year and winter’s tend drag into spring in such circumstances, I’d say this spring might be a good time for the any possible transition. No point in leaving tactical language changes to the opposition.

2hotel9
Reply to  David Kelly
October 6, 2019 1:59 pm

Have to disagree on one point, it would be the “Gretaffect”. Please try to keep up. 😉

fnord
October 6, 2019 5:45 pm

Considering that Obama was given the Peace Prize for the monumental achievements of not being George Bush and displaying large ammounts of melanin, then giving it to a poor hysterical teenager is right in line with their ‘standards’.

Michael Jankowski
October 11, 2019 12:43 pm

Greta LOST…to someone who actually accomplished peace.

2hotel9
Reply to  Michael Jankowski
October 11, 2019 4:17 pm

I am shocked! Shocked, I say!!(done in a passable French accent)

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