By Christopher Monckton of Brenchley
“Generation Atomic” is yet another NGO (i.e., me-too Communist front group), this time comprising boffins keen on nuclear power and even keener on pretending there is a “climate emergency” so that they can promote their favorite method of generation as the golden path to deWesternization “decarbonisation”.
John Shanahan, a member of The Right Climate Stuff, a NASA-based climate study group to which I also belong, has just sent me this ugly cartoon recently circulated by one Meyer, the founder of these Atomic Trots.
| The political proclivities of the Red Radiationists may be deduced from their clenched-fist logo, a traditional Communist symbol. Alert readers will notice that, as so often with clenched-fist logos, the Martini Marxists have screwed up: this is not a Left fist.
Let’s give these creeps a taste of their own poisonous medicine: |
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Yesterday I had spent a couple of hours doing yard work since we finally have had a couple of rain free days (out of the last 50 or so). Heat index was well over 100 so as I was inside relaxing and cooling down, I turned on an episode of “The People’s Court”. I mention this only because after a case they were interviewing the loser who was a younger woman and her comments got my attention. When asked about how she felt in losing she said “I guess it is hard to explain the way I perceive things”. That’s when I realized the problem with a lot of what goes on with young people is that they have been allowed to believe that their perception of things overrules actual facts. That is why they are so easily swayed to things that look and sound good. And thus the anti-science war is being won by clever marketing not the facts. This further confirms my belief (or perception if you will) that the anti carbon side is doing an excellent marketing job in their endeavor to pollute the minds of young people. As they preach in Sales 101, you don’t sell the steak you sell the sizzle. And as we now see, less educated minds will always choose the sizzle.
It starts with teaching them what to think instead of how to think.
I can recall a few decades back that there were stories of people objecting to teaching critical thinking skills to students.
Fast forward 20 year…
Takes time and mental effort to gain a reasonable overview of any big issue. The young are more readily amenable to accepting the overview from those who they perceive, or society presents as ‘Experts’ thereby reducing mental workload. Thats the reason that extreme political ideologies have traditionally targeted the young.
After more than a decade of ZIRP and its consequences, most of which have impacted the <35 age group, its not really a surprise that we live in times that seem very favourable to those selling Utopianism 🙂
Please be careful about “Flat Earthers”.
When I was taking geophysics, I recall a story that if you could write a nonsense paper that seemed serious you would be invited to join the Flat Earth Society.
One objective was that the UN should debate the installation of a fence along the edge. For obvious reasons.
After all, the General Assembly had debated even greater nonsense than that.
And remember, please.
Our motto:
We Are On The Level
I’m amazed that not one of them has found the edge yet. You’d think that would convince them.
There are good reasons to be wary of open pollinated GMO crops .Also people should be free to choose which foods they eat , even when we disagree with there decisions. So if Lord Moncton chooses to swill down a five gallon bucket of bacon fat out of some delusional and ignorant belief about human nutrition that’s his privilege.
Typical. Pointing out that bacon grease is not a huge problem, the come back is always: Then eat huge amounts of it. If you can’t see the stupidity of such a come back, then you won’t have the wit to understand the scientific explanation regarding why you are wrong.
As to the choice to eat GMO crops or not, I’ve never seen an anti-GMO activist who wasn’t demanding that all of it be banned.
On another tack same but different, a sometime girl friend of mine since happily married to a mate of mine for many years was a Christian Scientist. They do not believe in surgical intervention and much other medical stuff. She died of breast cancer not so long ago poor love and tho’ everyone keeps quiet about it, it’s obvious to me that Christian Science killed her.
I am not sure why anyone wants nuclear.
It is too expensive?
North, south, east, west
gas is best
It’s expensive because the actions of the anti-nuke crowd had made it so.
Calling out the use of the term “climate denier” is a valid criticism, but calling them a communist front group is going off the deep end! What evidence do you have? How’s that any different from calling climate skeptics oil shills?
As regards “homeopathy” it is a simple check that the founder himself based it on Kant’s Critique, which is hegemonic today in academic circles. It should be no surprise living systems turn up all kind of surprises.
Check the work of Jacques Benveniste (1935-2004) the director of the immunology lab of France’s National In-stitute of Health and Medical Research (INSERM), or even more importantly , L. Montagnier, J. Aissa, S. Ferris, J-L. Montagnier, C. Lavalee, “Electromagnetic Signals Are Produced by Aqueous Nanostructures Derived from Bacterial DNA Sequences,”
There is no question that trying to derive life, and after all medicine deals with living systems, from non-life is both doomed to failure, and causes incredible controversies. Hahnemann’s homeopathy to be checked in this light.
Kant simply can’t do it!
Even if “Generation Atomic” is a neo-Communist front group, we shouldn’t deride everyone who favors nuclear power, since it can produce lots of power for a very low fuel cost and low CO2 emissions, although its capital cost is high. France, which has very little oil, gas, or coal resources, generates about 80% of its electricity using nuclear power plants, with hydro and coal providing the rest. France is dependent on foreign oil for its transportation fuel.
People who are really worried about global warming due to CO2 emissions (even if the extent of the warming is exaggerated) should favor the development of nuclear power if they want to make scientific sense, since it is a proven, relatively safe technology with high energy density, and much cheaper than wind or solar. Germany probably made a huge mistake in shutting down its nuclear power plants in favor of wind and solar, especially for a country with mostly cloudy weather. Incidentally, radioactive wastes from France’s nuclear plants are buried in Germany!
Many people have an unreasonable fear of nuclear power due to the incidents at Chernobyl and Fukushima, but both incidents were due to faulty design (poor containment at Chernobyl, building the plant too close to sea level in a tsunami-prone area at Fukushima). Nuclear power can be very safe if the plants are properly designed and not placed in areas vulnerable to earthquakes and tsunamis.
The advent of fracking in the United States has increased the availability of relatively cheap oil and natural gas, but in countries lacking these resources, nuclear power should be a viable alternative.
Homeopathic Doctors – Can it be tested with double blind studies? If “no” I’m not interested.
Climate Deniers – Deny/Belief/Consensus? What have those got to do with science? Nothing!
Flat Earther – No, I’m definitely a “spherical earther”.
Anti Vaxxers – Smallpox vax was great & saved 3 million lives a year. Seasonal influenza vax? No thanks.
Anti GMO – I’ll wait for long term human studies. Marker assisted selection is kicking butt on all the “crispr” and other techniques and is just accelerated selection not a splice process.
Anti Nuclear – I don’t like the first gen but neither did the guy who invented it. They fired him because he would STFU about LFTR technology. That I think is great and the future.
Moon Landing – We made it. There is a mirror there that you can test distance with a laser. Put there by Apollo and Lunokhod missions.
I do not have a problem with people believing things that I think are absurd. I am sure there are hordes who think some my beliefs are equally absurd.
What I do have a problem with are people who hold beliefs very strongly, sometimes so strongly that they are prepared to do harm.. because ‘the end justifies the means’
Another problem with generation moronic is they think they have a right to dictate what I can say. They also believe they can mindread me. For example, their mind-reading exploits lead them to think I’m in pay of fossil fuel. They believe everyone is motivated only by immediate financial gains; except them.
Q: How did that happen? A: They are overwhelmingly motivated by the Bentham ethic – “the greatest amount of good for the greatest number”. But their ethical education is limited because they prioritise this one ethic above all others. Ethics such as truth seeking, honesty, respect, and promotion of human rights (such as free speech) fly out the window. They end up with “ends justify our means” tactics. Further promoted by a close knit “saving the world” groupthink engendering a sense of superiority. That makes it almost impossible to get through to them to explain how evil ends-justify-the-means is. They repeat the same errors made by Bolsheviks, Stalinists, Maoists, Castro, and other far leftists.
“Most of the evil in this world is done by people with good intentions.” — T.S. Eliot
Homeopathic Doctors – Prince Charles swears by ’em. Lord Moncton swears at ’em.
Climate Deniers – There’s no such thing as climate. We all know it’s just a fancy name for lots and lots of weather averaged over lots and lots of time—a totally imaginary concept; and the earth’s climate as opposed to local climate is doubly so. As for Climate Homeopathy—the doctrine that virtually homeopathic amounts of CO2 are the control knob of the earth’s so-called climate—that’s the unofficial state religion these days.
Flat Earther – A concept marketed by the CIA to make people who doubted the findings of the Warren Commission appear deranged to the bulk of the general public. We all know the Earth is a rather crinkly oblate spheroid.
Anti Vaxxers – The pharmaceutical industry’s equivalent of “climate deniers.” Regardless of whether some of them work some of the time or not, mandated vaccines today in the USA are one of biggest scams going. Al Gore campaigns for vaccines! On the other hand, RFK Jnr. campaigns against them!
Anti GMO – Add sixty vaccine injections by the age of eighteen to a diet of GMO-rich nutrient-poor food liberally sprinkled with Roundup, and you get the average American adult with the average American diseases.
Anti Nuclear – I think nuclear is great and the future. And I think anti-nuclear types are living in fantasy land, especially the ones who think we have a viable future running on so-called renewables.
Moon Landing – I have no idea if that was real or fake. It’s not my story and I’m not emotionally invested in either believing it or denying it. If it is someone’s story and they’re happy with it, what’s the problem. As long as they aren’t trying to force me to be injected with heaven knows what gunk in the name of vaccination or force me to eat heaven knows what gunk soaked in Roundup in the name of GMO food, they can believe what they like.
“Anti GMO – Add sixty vaccine injections by the age of eighteen to a diet of GMO-rich nutrient-poor food liberally sprinkled with Roundup, and you get the average American adult with the average American diseases.”
Gross hyperbole isn’t really helpful.
Fourth-generation nuclear power is all for the good. Carbon-free cheap reliable power and it actually consumes the nuclear waste from previous nuclear power. It’s the answer.
Meyer has no excuse for it either. I’m pretty certain I told him there is no signal for human warming in the climate records. The problem is pro-nuke activists and many younger nuclear engineers are mainstream Democrat and only a tiny number of these Democrats will publicly expose the lies behind the so-called settled science of the greenhouse gas effect speculation.
It’s disappointing that posters who often display good critical thinking skills when it comes to climate, abandon those skills completely when it comes to health topics in general and vaccines in particular (as well as the larger related issue of understanding the causes of the ongoing health catastrophe in many supposedly “advanced” countries such as in North America and the UK.)
I am fortunate to know people who seem quite knowledgeable on the details of vaccines so, for those with an open mind here is a brief sampler set of background points which need to be considered before any meaningful discussion can take place. As with the term “climate deniers”, the use of the term “Anti-vaxxer” immediately disqualifies someone from being among the small group of people who understand the complexity of the issue.
– The people I know who are cautious on vaccines generally still agree that for the small subset of diseases which are likely to be fatal or to create permanent major damage, vaccines can have a positive risk/reward.
– The risk/reward is not well-studied however due to (among other things) the lack of good long-term studies comparing unvaccinated, minimally vaccinated and maximally vaccinated populations for all health outcomes, however where such studies have been done (New Guinea?) the results indicate that vaccines are far from low risk.
– A major concern is the development of autoimmune-like conditions due to the repeated activation of the immune system in a way that bypasses cell-mediated immunity as would occur if one is naturally exposed to the disease.
– As seems to be accepted when it comes to vaccinating dogs, repeatedly triggering the immune system via an adjuvant will eventually lead to the development of autoimmune conditions, however there is no fixed number that creates risk other than “the fewer the better”.
– In humans, there is a line of thought that people with poor digestion are at greater risk of vaccine complications and, to cite one possible mechanism, it makes sense that if someone had intestinal permeability (AKA ‘leaky gut”) they would be at greater risk since if the gut is allowing “foreign” matter into the bloodstream, the vaccine could create a form of immunity toward that food (a food sensitivity) in addition to what was in the vaccine itself. Said differently, there is no guarantee that the vaccine will only create immunity toward what is in the vaccine, especially in the case of a person with unhealthy digestion, which is likely the case for a high percentage of people.
– For those of us that are occasionally vaccinated against truly risky diseases (e.g. Yellow fever) it would be good to know what pre-cautionary steps we could take to minimize the risks such as befell the famous Doctor from the UK (Martin Gore) who died as a result of the Yellow Fever vaccine last year, however shutting down conversation on the topic (as well as on Vaccine injuries to infants) further prevent people from making good decisions based on a well-researched understanding of the true short and long-term risks.
There is lots more that could be said but using derogatory language like “anti-vaxxer” which reveals a total lack of understanding of the complexity of the issues, the potential risks involved (which can be far greater that many of the fairly mild diseases being vaccinated against ), and the lack of good long-term safety evidence or knowledge of how to minimize risks, is no better than smearing anyone who thinks critically about climate science and policy as a “denier”.
This puerile behaviour of the vain narcissist, Monckton of Brenchley, shows that he is completely anti scientific.
I am a climate skeptic/realist what you will.
I am also skeptical that current vaccination schedules, particularly in the USA, are safe for all children. I wm Monckton of Brenchley is aware that idiodyncratic drug reactions caused severe illness and/or death to <0.1% of patients prescribed certain drugs, leading to several withdrawals from the market despite efficacy for the 99%+ of other patients. It would be anti-scientific in the extreme not to be open to the concept that such adverse reactions may also occur post vaccinations.
I stated nearly 20 years ago that looking for genetic markers predicating adverse reactions to vaccinations was a worthwhile scientific effort as it could provide simple teste to eliminate at risk children from vaccination were such tests to turn out to be reliable. I did not suggest banning all vaccinations, but nor would I accept GSK/Merck et al teaming up with BMA bullies to brook no arguments that everything has to be safe because they said so. The overall approach to skeptical evaluation of vaccines is completely unft for purpose as it is the seller doing the regulatory due diligence. Everyone knows that big pharma push to the absolute limits and consider deaths to be Acceptable Collateral Damage if they do not get financially hammered as a result.
Let us be clear that both mercury and aluminium are known toxins to nerve cells and both have been or are currently used in vaccine adjuvants. The cumulatives doses after 12+ vaccinations is worrying. Being skeptical is not calling for blanket bans, it is calling for regulation to put patient first, not big pharma profits.
Exactly the same can be said about GMO. GMO ideologues are like climate alarmists: they demand that everyone agrees with their views and want to make all commercial crops sterile to take permanent control of global seed inventories. I have no tolerance for Monsanto saying that their research must be taken as the approach to regulation. I want people doing that testing who are independent, skeptical but scientifically rigorous. Monsanto are going to rig every single trial to push rapid global uptake, because they are a for-profit entity. Their profits mean nothing to me. Nothing. They are unreliable because they have a permanent conflict of interest. It shocks me that Monckton is so lacking in basic scientific knowledge that he is not fully of this.
I want Monckton to tell Putin in a very public place that he is anti-science, and anti-capitalism as he has positioned Russia as a global leader of non-GMO food. I remain confident that Putin will give him his just desserts, using his judo expertise to throw him to the floor and pin him down with extreme ruthlessness. I would suggest that he sterilises his own children to ensure he gets control of global sperm banks. I am sure his familial relationships will not be unduly affected…
GMO crops have been pushed since 1990 just like the IPCC has pushed climate nonsense. Monckton would do well to ponder on that….
I am not anti-nuclear per se, but I do not believe for one moment that Governments and corporations have ever been honest about handling radioactive waste, nuclear accidents and the like. I would rather use clean coal technology than dodgy nuclear, but if 21st century technology is reliable then I am not anti nuclear in principle.
I have never been a flat earther, but I do not believe for one second the official 9/11 pantomime. Three towers fell by controlled demolition, the only question is using whose technology, on whose orders and for whose benefit.
As for homoeopathy, I have seen no evidence to make me become an afficionado, but there were times when acupuncture was scorned. It is now mainstream. So if homoeopathy can demonstrate that it actually works using independent rigorous trials,, I do not have a problem considering it.
All of which says that I do not ever say 'XXX said YYY, so it must be true.'