Bernie Sanders Demands Nationalization of US Energy Production to Fight Climate Change

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

h/t Howard Cork Hayden; According to Bernie Sanders, Nationalization of US energy production will give the government the control it needs to implement the Green New Deal.

Bernie Sanders indicates climate plan will require nationalization of US energy production

By Sam Dorman | Fox News

The “Green New Deal” proposed by Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., seeks a complete transition to “energy efficiency” and “sustainable energy” — much of which would be owned and administered by the federal government.

During an appearance on MSNBC Thursday night, Sanders told host Chris Hayes that the U.S. needed an “aggressive” federal approach to producing electricity and nodded after Hayes claimed he proposed a “federal takeover of the whole thing.”

Sanders agreed with Hayes’ assessment that he wanted to create a “Tennessee Valley Authority [TVA] extension for the whole country.” “You can’t nibble around the edges anymore,” Sanders added.

Read more: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sanders-climate-plan-federal-takeover-energy

For once I agree with Bernie Sanders.

Nationalizing energy production would drastically reduce the USA’s carbon footprint, if the catastrophic Venezuelan experience of nationalizing their oil industry is any guide.

Of course once a socialist has successfully expropriated the owners of a major industry, there is nothing to stop them targeting other sectors of the economy.

Bernie Sanders in 2011;

These days, the American dream is more apt to be realized in South America, in places such as Ecuador, Venezuela and Argentina, where incomes are actually more equal today than they are in the land of Horatio Alger. Who’s the banana republic now?

Source: https://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/must-read/close-the-gaps-disparities-that-threaten-america
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August 24, 2019 2:07 pm

Ha, ha, ha, how is that working out in VENEZUELA?

Ve2
Reply to  TEWS_Pilot
August 24, 2019 3:24 pm

Makes you wonder what planet Sanders lives on.
Venezuela was already a socialist hellhole when he made that statesmen.

MarkW
Reply to  Ve2
August 24, 2019 4:02 pm

If the government says that Venezuela is doing great, then Venezuela is doing great.
Anyone who disagrees is an enemy of the people and will be harshly dealt with.

LdB
Reply to  MarkW
August 24, 2019 8:26 pm

Same for China Emissions, if you disagree you are welcome to go there and protest 🙂

Robertvd
Reply to  Ve2
August 25, 2019 4:46 am

Mentally ill Sanders wants to control every aspect of your life. The question is who controls mentally ill Sanders?.

Sam Pyeatte
Reply to  Robertvd
August 25, 2019 9:06 am

Sanders is a fool. Giving the government the power to control energy would result in instant energy shortages and famine. The world would be better off if people like Sanders would assume room temperature asap.

Remy
Reply to  Robertvd
August 25, 2019 9:07 am

We do.

Curious George
Reply to  TEWS_Pilot
August 24, 2019 3:24 pm

Venezuela is only trying to save Venezuela. Bernie is trying the save the planet. And everything will be free, including bread lines.

Dan Cody
Reply to  Curious George
August 24, 2019 3:50 pm

You want to know how I got out of Iraq? Iran.

Michael S. Kelly LS, BSA Ret.
Reply to  Dan Cody
August 24, 2019 9:13 pm

Saddam Hussein’s resume:

“I ran Iraq.”

Robertvd
Reply to  Curious George
August 25, 2019 4:49 am

And soon there will be no forest left to burn.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Robertvd
August 25, 2019 7:23 am

And soon there will be no forest left to burn.

That should be GREAT news for the wacko AGW’ers.

CO2 emissions from burning wood and rotting forest “trash” will decrease to “zero”, …… and with it will be a corresponding decrease in Global Warming.

And the earth will be saved.

Loydo
Reply to  TEWS_Pilot
August 24, 2019 3:33 pm

Nationalizing energy production would make very little difference to the USA’s carbon footprint, if the Saudi Arabian or Mexican experience of nationalizing their oil industry is any guide.

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But I agree with Bernie fiddling around the edges is no longer an option.

Hasbeen
Reply to  Loydo
August 24, 2019 6:14 pm

Yep time for government to get the hell out of the scam.

Drake
Reply to  Loydo
August 24, 2019 7:06 pm

Really Loydo?

https://ycharts.com/indicators/venezuela_carbon_dioxide_emissions

How is that working out for Venezuela? Socialism’s end state of dictatorship and cronyism, the latest results.

LdB
Reply to  Drake
August 24, 2019 8:16 pm

You left out why Loydo our good little green socialist like it the population has decreased 13%.

Loydo
Reply to  LdB
August 24, 2019 11:16 pm

Er, I was talking about Saudi Arabia.

michael hart
Reply to  LdB
August 25, 2019 4:53 am

I bet the decrease in pets is larger than any population drop. Venezuelans have started hunting them for food.
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/05/18/venezuela-food-shortages-cause-some-hunt-dogs-cats-pigeons/84547888/

Interestingly, as living standards and reliable energy supplies improve, parts of Asia seem to be moving away from eating such protein sources. http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/39577557/the-countries-where-people-still-eat-cats-and-dogs-for-dinner
Perhaps there is an unexplored relationship between non-fossil fuel energy grids and the consumption of cats and dogs? I think we should be told.

Scissor
Reply to  Loydo
August 24, 2019 7:41 pm

End the fiddling. The corruption in climate science and resulting propaganda by the MSM is out of control.

LdB
Reply to  Loydo
August 24, 2019 8:07 pm

@Loydo
There it is the good little socialist coming out and why everything you sprout never will come into being. Socialism is the most corrupt political system ever devised in any given economic transaction there is always a loser it is part of the system. What supposedly happens is people accept they are the loser because it’s better for humanity … good luck selling that 🙂

MarkW
Reply to  Loydo
August 24, 2019 8:36 pm

I agree fiddling around the edges is no longer an option.
Doing absolutely nothing at all is the only logical and viable option.

MarkW
Reply to  TEWS_Pilot
August 24, 2019 4:01 pm

And to think, there are still people who will proclaim that any connection between socialism and climate change is just paranoid conspiracy mongering.

Sara
Reply to  TEWS_Pilot
August 24, 2019 6:47 pm

Don’t weep for me, Venezuela. Has Maduro imploded yet?

Well, ol’ Bernie the Less Than Brilliant Socialist can’t even tie his own shoes, so turning the production of electricity over to a federal agency WILL result in Worst Case Scenarios everywhere.

Never take any of the utilities for granted. They could be gone in a heartbeat. All you need is some meddlesome twit like Sanders in charge of things, and NO MORE ELECTRICITY… especially in the winter, when you need to run the furnace.

Goldrider
Reply to  Sara
August 25, 2019 8:32 am

Don’t worry, the first time New Yawkaz can’t charge their phones, there’ll be a revolution!

Reply to  TEWS_Pilot
August 24, 2019 10:59 pm

“According to Bernie Sanders, Nationalization of US energy production will give the government the control it needs to implement the Green New Deal.”

Note the use of the word “CONTROL” – that is always the leftists primary objective – CONTROL – despite the proven fact that they cannot competently manage anything – they are far too stupid and far too arrogant.

Regarding CONTROL: The ideological subversion of America by the Former Soviet Union is unfolding exactly as it was predicted, decades ago.

Watch this 1984 interview with ex-KGB officer and Soviet defector Yuri Bezmenov, who described their long-term program to ideologically undermine the western democracies. Jump to 1:07:30 for Bezmenov’s discussion of “ideological subversion”. It describes manipulating the “useful idiots” – the socialists within the western democracies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4&feature=youtu.be

One commenter on the video wrote: “this is crazy, almost everything predicted by this guy is already happening.” Bernie Sanders, AOC and other socialist-Democrats are openly saying what Bezmenov predicted decades ago. The last democracies are under attack by leftist extremists.

All over the world, countries that once had a future have fallen into dictatorship, poverty and misery. It is notable that of the ~167 large countries in the world, most are totalitarian states, and all but “the chosen few” citizens of these countries suffer under brutal leftist dictatorships.

Radical greens (really covert socialists) have used wildly exaggerated stories of runaway global warming and climate change to stampede the gullible, in order to achieve their political objectives. The greens claim to be pro-environment, but their policies have done enormous environmental damage. Radical greens have also been destructive to humanity, causing tens or hundreds of millions of deaths, mostly children.” [Ref. 1]

It is truly all about manipulating the “useful idiots” – the deluded socialists within the western democracies – like AOC, Bernie Sanders and the majority of the Democratic Party.

History tells us that these socialist adventures end badly. Socialists Stalin, Hitler and Mao killed about 200 million people in the 20th Century, and lesser leftist dictators like Pol Pot and other Tin Pots killed many millions more.

When too much power is concentrated in the hands of too few, a psychopath typically seizes power and kills or imprisons everyone who opposes his madness. Stalin, Hitler, Mao and the other great killers of the 20th Century fit this description.

In his great book “The Road to Serfdom” published in 1944, Friedrich Hayek observed that “the abandonment of individualism and classical liberalism inevitably leads to a loss of freedom, the creation of an oppressive society, the tyranny of a dictator, and the serfdom of the individual. [Ref. 2]

This latest generation of delusional socialists claim “it will be different this time” – well actually, no it won’t. The killing of millions by the extreme left will continue – that is a certainty – that is the only task at which they excel.

Robertvd
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
August 25, 2019 11:06 am

“loss of freedom” Big Government “and the serfdom” Form 1040.

So the US is a socialist system. It is certainly NOT the system described in the first constitution by the Founding Fathers.

Jeff K
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
August 25, 2019 11:56 am

Good post. Well said.

Reply to  TEWS_Pilot
August 24, 2019 11:08 pm

MORE ON CONTROL – WHAT BERNIE SANDERS AND FELLOW-SOCIALISTS WANT MOST.

I’ve mentioned the Radical Green Agenda before, but here is a sampling.

The amazing thing is these wanna-be murderous psychopaths actually think they are intelligent, and balanced!

‘IN THEIR OWN WORDS”:

http://green-agenda.com/

“The big threat to the planet is people: there are too many,
doing too well economically and burning too much oil.”
– Sir James Lovelock,
BBC Interview

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

“My three main goals would be to reduce human population to
about 100 million worldwide, destroy the industrial infrastructure
and see wilderness, with it’s full complement of species,
returning throughout the world.”
-Dave Foreman,
co-founder of Earth First!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

“Current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the
affluent middle class – involving high meat intake,
use of fossil fuels, appliances, air-conditioning,
and suburban housing – are not sustainable.”
– Maurice Strong,
Rio Earth Summit

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

“Mankind is the most dangerous, destructive,
selfish and unethical animal on the earth.”
– Michael Fox,
vice-president of The Humane Society

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

“Human beings, as a species,
have no more value than slugs.”
– John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

“Humans on the Earth behave in some ways like a
pathogenic micro-organism, or like the cells of a tumor.”
– Sir James Lovelock,
Healing Gaia

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

“The Earth has cancer
and the cancer is Man.”
– Club of Rome,
Mankind at the Turning Point

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

“A cancer is an uncontrolled multiplication of cells;
the population explosion is an uncontrolled multiplication of people.
We must shift our efforts from the treatment of the symptoms to
the cutting out of the cancer. The operation will demand many
apparently brutal and heartless decisions.”
– Prof Paul Ehrlich,
The Population Bomb

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

“I don’t claim to have any special interest in natural history,
but as a boy I was made aware of the annual fluctuations in
the number of game animals and the need to adjust
the cull to the size of the surplus population.”
– Prince Philip,
preface of Down to Earth

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

“A reasonable estimate for an industrialized world society
at the present North American material standard of living
would be 1 billion. At the more frugal European standard
of living, 2 to 3 billion would be possible.”
– United Nations,
Global Biodiversity Assessment

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

“A total population of 250-300 million people,
a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.”
– Ted Turner,
founder of CNN and major UN donor

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

“… the resultant ideal sustainable population is hence
more than 500 million but less than one billion.”
– Club of Rome,
Goals for Mankind

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

“One America burdens the earth much more than
twenty Bangladeshes. This is a terrible thing to say.
In order to stabilize world population,we must eliminate
350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say,
but it’s just as bad not to say it.”
– Jacques Cousteau,
UNESCO Courier

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

“If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth
as a killer virus to lower human population levels.”
– Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh,
patron of the World Wildlife Fund

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

“I suspect that eradicating small pox was wrong.
It played an important part in balancing ecosystems.”
– John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

“The extinction of the human species may not
only be inevitable but a good thing.”
– Christopher Manes, Earth First!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

“The extinction of Homo Sapiens would mean survival
for millions, if not billions, of Earth-dwelling species.
Phasing out the human race will solve every
problem on Earth – social and environmental.”
– Ingrid Newkirk,
former President of PETA

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

“Childbearing should be a punishable crime against
society, unless the parents hold a government license.
All potential parents should be required to use
contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing
antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing.”
– David Brower,
first Executive Director of the Sierra Club

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Earthling2
August 24, 2019 2:11 pm

It is really scary to think that there is even a smidgeon of support for the kind of unbridled socialism that Bernie Sanders promotes. Luckily, it is a non starter in the USA and his crazy AOC type of socialist nut bar policies only serve to divide the Democrat Party. It really looks like they will implode again, guaranteeing a win for President Trump to achieve a second term.

MarkG
Reply to  Earthling2
August 24, 2019 3:28 pm

“Luckily, it is a non starter in the USA ”

Hillary Clinton came within a few thousand votes in a few states of becoming President.

Socialism is far from a non-starter in the US. Probably at least a third of the population can be relied on to vote Democrat, plus all the dead people and illegals who always vote Democrat, so it doesn’t take many more to elect a socialist government.

Earthling2
Reply to  MarkG
August 24, 2019 4:56 pm

Now you are scaring me. I sometimes wonder what the vote would have been if Sanders had won the nomination against Clinton, although I think she turned off so many voters as to enable the Trump victory. Somehow, I just don’t think Bernie would win against Trump in 2020, especially as he is a real hard core socialist, not just an everyday garden variety liberal like so many of them.

But to be absolute sure, let’s ensure everyone in our families and circle of friends gets out to vote and doesn’t pick socialism as a form of Government. There is a lot riding on the 2020 election, maybe the most important election in a generation.

Drake
Reply to  Earthling2
August 24, 2019 7:23 pm

Can’t be. 2016 was the most important election of a generation.

If Hillbillery had won, China would be calling the shots on trade and 2 more liberals would be on the Supreme Court, as well as all the lower court appointees. Even with the Senate, enough squish Republicans would have given her the judges she wanted. Look at the overreach of the Obama appointments continually blocking Trump procedural changes with NATIONWIDE injunctions, mostly getting stayed on appeal. They care not of the LAW, only for their political views.

The US really dodged the bullet that would have led to one party rule. Look what the police state has done to Trump. Many of these FBI “career” people started under Bill. 4 more year of elitist democrat rule could have been the end of democracy in the US.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Drake
August 25, 2019 7:57 am

Drake – August 24, 2019 at 7:23 pm

If Hillbillery had won, China would be calling the shots on trade and 2 more liberals would be on the Supreme Court, as well as al

Now being an authentic Hillbilly from the hills of WV, …… I am highly offended by your use of the descriptor “Hillbillery” to denote the dastardly, devious, dishonest Hillary Clinton.

Us Hillbillies don’t care one hoot for Hillary or Obama. As a matter of fact, it was them two that cost the Democrats control of the State Legislature that they held for 70+ years straight.

Latitude
Reply to  Earthling2
August 24, 2019 3:42 pm

you know something…I’m no longer so sure of that

MarkW
Reply to  Latitude
August 24, 2019 4:04 pm

We have reached the point where a majority of people get more from the government than they pay in taxes. When we reach the point where the people who support the system become a minority of voters, then the slide into full blown socialism is all but guaranteed.

William Astley
Reply to  MarkW
August 24, 2019 5:34 pm

I agree and it does not end well.

It starts with spending more money every year than revenue and making up fake facts such as deficits do not matter to justify the scam…

There are gazillion things to promise to spend money which we do not have on.

Bernie’s plan is to spend 16 trillion dollars over 10 years and he reckons spending all of that money will create jobs.

Sure, digging holes and then filling them in after will also create jobs but what does it accomplish.

Bernie’s plan will make electricity $16 trillion dollars more expensive and kill all energy intensive industry in the US.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  MarkW
August 25, 2019 8:44 am

MarkW – August 24, 2019 at 4:04 pm

We have reached the point where a majority of people get more from the government than they pay in taxes.

Any time you want to see who “those people” are, just turn on your TV and watch the videos of the week day (Mon thru Fri) “daytime” crowds of people that are out on the streets, etc., …. protesting, marching and/or rioting for “social justice” or whatever,

You know damn well that very few, if any, are employed by the owner(s) of a private business/company …. so they must be “feeding” freely at the government trough.

The “working” populace doesn’t have time for “daytime protesting n’ rioting” …… or responding to those silly telephone “political polls”.

That’s why most polls are always “slanted” toward Democrat “favoritism” due to the DHHS/couchpotatoes “voting” for the hands that “feed” them.

auto
Reply to  MarkW
August 25, 2019 10:28 am

In the UK, too, about 43% [IIRC] of all earners pay no Income Tax, as they earn less than the threshold [£12,500 this 2019-2020 tax year].
There is National Insurance – an Income Tax in all but name – and that starts at £166 per week [about £8,600 a year].

Cutting the lowest paid out of tax may well have gone far enough. IMHO.

Auto

Robertvd
Reply to  Earthling2
August 25, 2019 11:19 am

The coming economic crisis will make the voters choose the one promising the most free stuff and (green) jobs (Even Bigger Big Brother Government). President Trump will be blamed for creating this big fat ugly bubble.

Salvatore Castronovo
August 24, 2019 2:19 pm

An unrealistic demand by Bernie. It is the first step to a Left Wing, Socialistic, Communistic Democratic State. ie Venezuela.😳

CLay Sanborn
August 24, 2019 2:24 pm

There we go! The real reason for the so called “Global Warming Climate Crisis”.

Reply to  CLay Sanborn
August 24, 2019 4:40 pm

The ultimate goal is a global vegan commune of about 1 billion souls, run by some subset of the tinpot despots represented in the UN. What could possibly go wrong?

Newt Love
August 24, 2019 2:26 pm

How ignorant of Bernie. Changing the ownership of energy resources from private sector businesses to the government does not change anything, except the government asserts control, as in the new CEO, Bernie? could dissolve the energy sector companies.

A simpler approach would be to legislate the private sector’s energy businesses until they are driven from existence, like the incandescent light bulb is gone.

All I can say is, “Bernie, give it your best shot.”

Except for CA, NY, and a few small liberal states, American voters will crush Bernie’s Socialist –> Communist fantasies with a Trump, House, and Senate sweep.

Robertvd
Reply to  Newt Love
August 25, 2019 11:28 am

Why can these people like Pelosi or Sanders not just retire. They have the money. Enjoy your last years. I suppose they are addicted to power.

Scissor
August 24, 2019 2:34 pm

The Left’s motto, “If you like your sh*thole, you can keep your sh*thole.”

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Scissor
August 24, 2019 3:28 pm

Now that right there is funny.

Dan Cody
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
August 24, 2019 3:53 pm

Someone should tell the leftists,”Don’t sweat the petty things and don’t pet the sweaty things.”

Jean Parisot
August 24, 2019 2:37 pm

If we get rid of coal and oil, I guess we roll back to whale oil.

J Mac
August 24, 2019 2:38 pm

Big Brain Bernie Sanders has Venezuela envy…. Because socialism has worked soooo well for the Venezuelans!
The Venezuelans are equally impoverished and powerless, the socialist ideal. It takes a special talent to destroy an energy rich nation. “You can’t just nibble at it….”

joe
Reply to  J Mac
August 24, 2019 11:52 pm

Bernie is rich enough to be a socialist.

Scissor
August 24, 2019 2:40 pm

Sounds reasonable, “Today, TVA’s generation portfolio is 37% nuclear, 24% coal, 20% natural gas, 9% hydro, 3% wind + solar and 7% energy efficiency with a total capacity of 169,000 gigawatt-hours.”

davidgmillsatty
Reply to  Scissor
August 26, 2019 11:51 am

It doesn’t have any oil and that pisses off all those wanna be oil tycoons. Don’t tell anyone about this dirty little socialist secret and the reasonable energy prices in those places the TVA supplies.

August 24, 2019 2:46 pm

It would be simpler and cheaper to nationalize Bernie Sanders and turn his volume switch down to normal so that people could hear themselves think rationally again.

Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
August 24, 2019 4:04 pm

Never interfere when your enemy is making a strategic mistake.
– Sun Tzu

The more the American people hear the Democrats screaming about Climate Change the more they are realizing the Dumbocrats really want to double and triple their electricity bill and triple the prices at the gas pump.

Prjindigo
August 24, 2019 2:48 pm

Not sure what to post but “bat shit insane” is the first thing that comes to mind.

There are *many* problems with a tirade about the US being a bad place, being uncontrolled and destroying the world’s environment and they all start with putting the “US” in there.

This is where being environmentally conscious *started*. We have more regulations and study on the issue than any other nation on Earth.

We’ve also proved many times over that government control of *anything* is bad, that a watchdog and regulation works if they’re made by intelligent people.

Bernie is *not* “intelligent people”.

Editor
Reply to  Prjindigo
August 24, 2019 3:25 pm

Bernie might be a lot smarter than you think.
https://en.mediamass.net/people/nicolas-maduro/highest-paid.html
He understands only too well how implementing a Maduro strategy in the US could benefit Bernie Sanders.

Curious George
Reply to  Prjindigo
August 24, 2019 3:29 pm

That’s why people are leaving everything behind and desperately trying to enter the U.S. How many people are trying to leave the U.S. for any beautiful Socialistic Paradise?

Dan Cody
Reply to  Curious George
August 24, 2019 3:58 pm

That’s why the USA has to deal with immigration,not emigration.

MarkW
Reply to  Dan Cody
August 24, 2019 8:39 pm

Capitalist countries have to build walls to keep people out.
Communist countries have to build walls to keep people in.

Editor
Reply to  Prjindigo
August 24, 2019 3:48 pm

Apologies. I posted a link to fake news in a comment (not through moderation yet). No excuses, I should have checked before not after. Please ignore it.

Marv
August 24, 2019 2:53 pm

“In addition to taking over the nation’s energy supply, Sanders’ plan claims to end unemployment by creating 20 million jobs, provide ‘massive investments in research and development’ and impose fines and litigation on the fossil fuel industry.

“The plan predicts that income tax revenues, penalties for fossil fuel companies, a reduced need for safety net spending, ‘making the wealthy and large corporations pay their fair share’ and other policy impacts would make the program pay for itself.”

Reply to  Marv
August 24, 2019 2:59 pm

He needs to take a page out of the Howard Dean Playbook and finish his vision of Utopia speech with a great big….

MarkW
Reply to  Marv
August 24, 2019 4:08 pm

The top 10% pay over 50% of income taxes already, the rich are already paying way more than their fair share.

Of course to a leftist fair means nobody has more than they do.

LdB
Reply to  Marv
August 24, 2019 8:24 pm

When the companies collapse and there is no oil production, what do you think will happen. I suspect he will be employing more like 100 Million as that will make the great recession look like a picnic. Fortunately we will never get see it because this idiot will never get near the presidency because I don’t see the people electing this fool. I don’t honestly believe any Democrat could be elected with Green New Deal as there economic policy because it is just so crazy.

Reply to  LdB
August 24, 2019 8:35 pm

Senator Sanders, you have a phone call.
This is Senator Sanders.
Hi, Bernie, this is President Donald Trump calling from the G-7 Conference …I have a Knock-Knock joke for you….Knock, Knock.
Ok, who’s there?
NOT YOU!!!!!

Dan Cody
August 24, 2019 2:57 pm

His doppelganger is Bern ‘the fossil fuels’ Sanders.

sycomputing
Reply to  Dan Cody
August 24, 2019 10:34 pm

Say Dan, I want to say thanks for the plethora of stupid jokes you’ve posted over various articles here the last week or more. I know you’ve gotten some heat for it, but you did at least one old American soldier some good today.

I went and grabbed about 3 or more printed pages of your “jokes” (all of them I could find, actually) and took them with me today to visit my aging uncle on his birthday (101st Airborne – Vietnam, 100% disabled from injuries sustained there) who’s trying to recover from a very serious rollover automobile wreck that nearly cost him his life several months ago. It isn’t going all that well because the accident practically tore one of his legs off. Complications of the injury now include MSRA that nearly killed him last week had we not got him to the hospital on time. The VA is . . . well . . . less than helpful at times.

Anyway, his sense of humor is as dubiously suspicious as yours and thus your “jokes” had the man belly laughing for a good long time during our visit today. I haven’t seen that in a while and it was a welcome sight, to say the least. Thanks buddy.

Proverbs 17:22
A joyful heart is good medicine, but a broken spirit dries up the bones.

Ed Zuiderwijk
August 24, 2019 3:00 pm

Isn’t the donkey the symbol of the Democratic party? If so the question is, is Sanders a Democrat?
Even a donkey learns quickly from its mistakes, it never hurts itself on the same stone. But Sander doesn’t learn anything, evidently. He is therefore not even an ass. And not a democrat.

Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
August 24, 2019 3:03 pm

Arguing with a Liberal
https://twitter.com/Education4Libs/status/920048850550669312

Do Donkeys make good pets?
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ScienceABC123
August 24, 2019 3:03 pm

Bernie Sanders has only one solution for every problem, more government control. Some would call that “socialism.”

CD in Wisconsin
August 24, 2019 3:03 pm

If anybody can collapse the U.S. economy with his utter ignorance, Bernie Sanders can do it. He is at least as qualified to do it as any other DEM presidential candidates out there, if not more so. The problem is that once he is finished and the U.S. is in economic and social chaos, nobody is going to give a damn anymore about the climate and what it is (or isn’t) doing.

With MSNBC giving making itself a mouthpiece for Bernie, it should not be hard to figure out what the ‘MS’ in MSNBC stands for.

Homer
August 24, 2019 3:12 pm

bernie will need Chekists to enforce all those green schemes–face the door–check out the last soviet film by that name–1992–you cant make a green omelette without breaking a few eggs.

Flight Level
August 24, 2019 3:30 pm

Isn’t that a case of characterized treason and subversion in favor of hostile to the USA foreign powers?

North Korea and Venezuela amongst others would be very interested, say implicated in the success of such actions.

August 24, 2019 3:38 pm

I am be becoming convinced that the only way to stop the growing socialist movement is for state legislatures to pass legislation requiring students at state universities to vote, choosing between socialism and meritocracy-based capitalism.

If they choose Socialism, that’s what they would get. Based upon test results, professors would be required to determine what the average grade was for a class, and every student would get that grade.

The Professors would be required to vote, too. If they choose Socialism, every professor would get the same pay, which would be the average pay of what it would be otherwise (football coaches would love that). The Professors must make their individual vote public.

If they can’t make Socialism work on a university campus, then they could not succeed anywhere. I suspect the experiment would only last one term. Whatever damage is suffered by the experiment would be small compared to the lessons learned.

icisil
August 24, 2019 3:40 pm

Bernie’s light was fading amidst the crowded field, so he’s putting a stake in the ground to try to get some traction, IMO. A big gamble that I don’t think will pay off, but he has no other choice. It’s like when Beta abandoned Iowa (i.e., white working class) to focus on the hispanic vote.

Hocus Locus
August 24, 2019 3:56 pm

This is the same derriere-wipe who participated in the ‘destruction’ of the Vermont Yankee Nuclear Power Plant in a brazen act of activist malice, social and corporate vandalism.

It was a national treasure, the ONLY nuclear plant sited next to a hydroelectric power source that had the capacity (and direct connecting feeders) to black-start it. In any scenario of downed grids and interrupted fossil energy, the region surrounding Vermont Yankee could have been a beacon of hope and civilization. Now that region of Vermont will become a feudal electric barony gathered around the ~35MW output of the Vernon Dam. Probably with cannibalism. Bernie did this along with the Ben’n’Jerry bum-wipes.

August 24, 2019 3:59 pm

I so hope he wins the DNC nomination for President to run vs. Trump. It would be so 1972 Nixon-McGovern all over again.
And with so many still in the running, I really do think there are enough stupid crazy Leftists voting “D” who could make him their nominee since they know he was so cheated by Crooked Hillary and her team in ’16.

MarkW
August 24, 2019 4:00 pm

They say that Fidel Castro had a very modest income.
It’s just that he lived in a huge house, provided for free by the government. His food, clothing, utilities, everything else was provided by the government. But his actual salary was quite modest.

Of course morons like Sanders would take this as proof of how communism makes everyone equal.

markl
Reply to  MarkW
August 24, 2019 4:39 pm

“They say that Fidel Castro had a very modest income.” “They” say a lot of things that aren’t true. How did he and his children end up with all that personal property and businesses in a true Marxist government? Gifts from the people 🙂

MarkW
Reply to  markl
August 24, 2019 8:42 pm

I was commenting on the claim that socialism promotes income parity.

Those who rule the country always live well, regardless of what their “official” salary might be.

Kevin R.
Reply to  MarkW
August 24, 2019 5:41 pm

He owned Cuba. He owned everything in Cuba.

LdB
Reply to  MarkW
August 24, 2019 8:31 pm

Yeah Fidel had a very modest income with which he bought and huge Havana estate with a rooftop bowling alley, personal hospital and indoor basketball court, and a seaside villa with pool, jacuzzi and sauna. I am sure everybody in Cuba had that 🙂

High Treason
August 24, 2019 4:03 pm

Monopolistic control over any essential element in life will always lead to total control over the People. Next thing, Bernie will want an end to private property. As we all know, property rights are one of the essential pillars of human freedom itself.
The Democrats have a very bad record on such seizures – 1933 Franklin Roosevelt signed an executive order banning private citizens holding gold. They were forced to swap it for paper money that was printed by a private banking cartel when they were crying poor. The paper money was basically counterfeit money and the People were forced to trade their gold for toilet paper. The People failed to use the protection offered by the Second Amendment. Private ownership of gold was only allowed again after the US went off the gold standard.
Still thinking of voting Democrat?

Rob
August 24, 2019 4:19 pm

Sanders is a communist depot.

markl
August 24, 2019 4:34 pm

The President doesn’t have the power to make a country Socialist. He can do a lot of “Socialist like” damages though.

August 24, 2019 4:46 pm

One of the things that gets missed is how the left is complaining about income inequity. It wasn’t that long ago when their complaint was poverty. What does that say?

David
Reply to  Joel
August 26, 2019 1:06 am

All the people I hear expressing grave concern about income inequality seem to be pretty well-off. I always ask them if they have a household income of more than $60000. That’s the national median in the US. When (Not if) they answer “yes” I ask them whether they contribute everything over $60k to the poor. That would eliminate inequality after all. The very suggestion horrifies them.

August 24, 2019 5:01 pm

Does this surprise anyone? The means of production in the hands of the state. From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

MarkW
Reply to  Shoki Kaneda
August 24, 2019 8:44 pm

That may be the ideal, but here’s how it always ends up:

From each, everything
To each, according to how well connected their family is.

Michael H Anderson
August 24, 2019 5:04 pm

Yes, PLEASE let Bernie win the nomination! Nuff said. 🙂

Gene
Reply to  Michael H Anderson
August 24, 2019 7:29 pm

There’s an old adage: “Be careful what you ask for.”

MarkW
Reply to  Gene
August 24, 2019 8:45 pm

Democrats were praying for Reagan and Trump to win their respective nominations.

According to the “smart” money, they were the weakest candidates.

Michael H Anderson
Reply to  Gene
August 25, 2019 3:26 pm

Believe me when I say I know where you’re coming from – it’s just that I’m quite certain he’d lose.

Or has sanity really become that scare a commodity?

August 24, 2019 5:07 pm

How does this plan look as a way to combat BOTH GlowBULL Warming and the economic inequalities we deal with in international trade?

President Trump’s Global Warming & Climate Change Solution:

1. Place a Tariff on every country with higher emissions than the USA.
2. Increase the Tariffs on all of them until they match us.
3. Continue the Tariffs thereafter until the World Cools as compensation for our effort.

… No need for Slitherin’ Mitt Romney’s “Carbon Exchange”. ~ commenter “BlackKnightRides ” at https://theconservativetreehouse.com

ResourceGuy
August 24, 2019 5:19 pm

How many rant book titles does be want? He already made a million off the previous one.

August 24, 2019 5:54 pm

What a colossal idiot.

Sara
August 24, 2019 6:56 pm

If we’re lucky (and we frequently are), he’ll run on his own party ticket and siphon off enough votes to take the election away from the democrats. It’s happened before and he can make it happen again. I have great faith in his ability as a sponge-brained dermatophyte to absorb a large chunk of the votes that would other wise go to who or whatever gets the democrat nod.

Tom Abbott
August 24, 2019 7:06 pm

Hey, Bernie, the climate science is not settled.

Bernie: But..but..but..97 percent!

No Bernie, it’s only three percent.

Bernie: But…but…but..Hockey Stick!

Sorry Bernie, no cigar. The Hockey Stick is science fiction.

Bernie: But…but…but…World Socialist Domination!

Move to Cuba, Bernie. Take your delusions with you.

Brian Valentine
August 24, 2019 8:21 pm

Trump is very lucky to have so many unpaid committee members such as Sanders working for Trump’s reelection!

H.R.
August 24, 2019 8:48 pm

I wouldn’t trust Bernie Sanders to run a lemonade stand. I wouldn’t trust him to run a washing machine. The only thing he has ever run is his mouth. He is good at that.

joe
August 24, 2019 11:58 pm

If the US government nationalized the oil and gas industry, would Texas leave the USA?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  joe
August 25, 2019 5:39 am

I think Texas would leave the Union over nationalization of the oil industry. They would do so because nationalization would bankrupt Texas and Texas does not want to be bankrupted by socialist fools.

Nationalizing the oil industry or any other industry will be easier said that done for Bernie even if he does win the presidency. Not everyone in the United States is as delusional as Bernie Sanders and the other Democrat Socialists.

davidgmillsatty
Reply to  Tom Abbott
August 26, 2019 11:45 am

They don’t have a currency. That is always the problem any time there is talk of secession. Lets say they want to export their oil. Instant blockade. Secession was tried once. It did not work out well for those who were secessionists.

And I lived in Texas for about forty years. Went there K-12. Went to law school there. Took oil and gas in law school and had to pass an oil and gas question on the bar. Worked for LaVaca and Exxon. Still own lots of Exxon stock.

Secession is a really dumb idea for any state. And lots of oil and gas won’t make it any easier.

Rolf
August 25, 2019 12:52 am

How it works.
a Socialist government has nothing to win on making a person wealthier. Because then that person is more inclined to vote Republican. But by making a rich person poorer that person is has more interest voting socialist.

A Republican government has everything to win by making life better for all people as they are more inclined to vote Republican.

Thus a vote on any socialist is a vote confirming your lack of logic reasoning.

Curious George
Reply to  Rolf
August 25, 2019 7:43 am

Is it why the Silicon Valley is mostly Democratic?

Reply to  Curious George
August 25, 2019 9:42 am

The Billionaires living and working in Silicon Valley made their Billions through Capitalism, but now they want to pull up the ladder to their Utopia and prevent PEONS from entering. Socialism provides that mechanism. They are protected from any downside of high taxes and compliance with punishing regulations imposed on the rest of industry by the loopholes their enablers in Congress and state legislatures and government agencies create for them and the PACs they create in exchange for BRIBES “political contributions”

Wiliam Haas
August 25, 2019 1:31 am

There is no climate crisis. The climate change we are experiencing is very small and is caused by the sun and the oceans over which mankind has no control. There is no real evidence that CO2 has any effect on climate and there is plenty of scientific rationale to support the idea that the climate sensitivity of CO2 is zero. So even if mankind stopped making use of fossil fuels on a global bases, the effort would have no effect on climate. If we here in the USA want to significantly reduce our use of fossil fuels then what we need to do is gradually replace fossil fueled power plants with nuclear power plants but apparently that is not what Mr. Sanders wants to do. Mr. Sander’s trashing of the US economy will have no effect on climate.

Rod Evans
August 25, 2019 2:23 am

Make no mistake here. Energy is the enabler of capitalism. The greens see capitalism as their enemy and openly say so.
When they take control of energy…all energy, then kiss goodbye to your freedom, because that is what capitalism actually is. It is the freedom to advance and secure your own ambitions, energy is the key enabler of that ambition.
The Greens/socialists do not want anyone to have independent freedom. For them freedom is reserved for the state and state authorities alone, that in their world view.
The climate alarm movement is nothing to do with climate per se, it is simply a tool adopted by the left to secure control.
Venezuelisation awaits the USA is Sanders or any of the other zealots on the left, get into power.

August 25, 2019 8:22 am

Nationalization of Energy resources and distribution is a page from the Central Planner’s playbook. Directly in the case of communism and socialism, indirectly by resource royalties, development permits, lately eco-regulations in the case of “capitalist” economies.

Brian Valentine
August 25, 2019 8:43 am

Gee, Bernie, this Communist/Trotskyite stuff just doesn’t play very well in Peoria.

Haven’t you figured that one out yet? Hasn’t anyone from the DNC told you that? Are your handlers leaving you clueless?

August 25, 2019 2:11 pm

I’m not for the “Nationalization” of anything, let alone energy production.
But I do wonder if Bernie would be saying that after Trump wins reelection?
No more windmills. No more solar. All because the head, whoever that may be, of this nation was given the power to say “No”?
Power grabs only sound good to those who think they will have the Power.

davidgmillsatty
August 25, 2019 2:43 pm

Since the government is owned by the big corporations, what is the problem, capitalists?

d
Reply to  davidgmillsatty
August 25, 2019 3:47 pm

Don’t believe me? Here is the Princeton study that shows that the economic elites get they policies they want adopted at a far greater rate than average citizens. I will leave it for the statisticians to explain the data better than I can.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/62327F513959D0A304D4893B382B992B/S1537592714001595a.pdf/testing_theories_of_american_politics_elites_interest_groups_and_average_citizens.pdf

yirgach
August 25, 2019 3:58 pm

I live in “Bernie” country, ie Vermont. Shop for a few things at a local food coop, buy most other things in sales tax free New Hampshire or free shipping/no tax Internet.
Many Bernie stickers on all the cars. Very progressive area, all for open borders and paving over good farmland with solar and wind farms.
Absolutely disgusting.
Was at a local farm supply store and noticed a vehicle exiting the parking lot with the hand written “Climate Emergency” on the back window. Saw the young owner at a local grocery store and asked “Climate Emergency, what does that mean?”

Got the usual “We’re all gonna die if we don’t stop using fossil fuels” response, then asked how do you know that? The response was”The local paper and my support group said so, it must be true”.

At that point I gave up. These people are doomed, but sadly around these parts, they are firmly in control.

ResourceGuy
August 26, 2019 1:19 pm

I guess this means Bernie can’t decide which beach side property or whole island to buy with his rant-driven book revenue. Those properties are still mighty expensive and require lots of book deals and campus speaker fees. As in the case of Matt Simmons and his Maine property, there is still time to pick and choose.

Stevek
August 26, 2019 3:53 pm

Chernobyl is a good example of state run energy.

Amber
August 26, 2019 7:15 pm

If Bernie keeps talking Hilary will be forced to save the entire party ….again .
Then lose ….again .
The DNC needs to get real and find some new sugar daddies .
Quit being beholding to a fraud industry and promising to tear down the USA .
After all isn’t that the goal of the Club Of Rome and the one world government cartel ?

Eric Saunders
September 5, 2019 12:48 pm

The Venezuela quote at the bottom is incorrectly attributed to Sanders; it clearly says that it was written by the Valley News Editorial Board