UPDATE – Dr. Tim Ball wins @MichaelEMann lawsuit – Mann “hides the decline” AGAIN

Original title before update: Breaking: Dr. Tim Ball wins @MichaelEMann lawsuit – Mann has to pay

See the update below.

Readers surely recall that the easily offended Dr. Michael Mann launched a court case for defamation against climate skeptic Dr. Tim Ball of Canada.

In Feburary 2018 there was a complete dismissal in the lawsuit brought against Dr. Ball by Andrew Weaver of Canada, also for “defamation”.

The Weaver defamation case involved an article Ball wrote saying that the IPCC had diverted almost all climate research funding and scientific investigation to anthropogenic global warming (AGW). This meant that there was virtually no advance in the wider understanding of climate and climate change. Ball referenced an interview with Weaver and attempts by a student to arrange a debate. Ball made some comments that were not fully substantiated, so they became the base of the defamation lawsuit.

That case was completely dismissed, you can read more here.

Now in the Mann case, which goes back to 2011, there’s also a complete dismissal. Ball wrote to me less than an hour ago, asking me to announce it here.

He writes:

Hi Anthony  

Michael Mann’s case against me was dismissed this morning by the BC Supreme Court and they awarded me [court] costs.  

Tim Ball

This is a developing story, I’ll add more as we know more.


UPDATE:

Dr. Mann Has Posted On Twitter In Reply To This Article

Mann’s statement is here: https://twitter.com/MichaelEMann/status/1164910044414189568

For those who are blocked by Dr. Mann: (including me)

And if you’re blocked on Facebook by Dr. Mann, here is that statement:

John O’Sullivan of PSI wrote to one of our moderators with this intro and statement given by Dr. Ball that I was not aware of. Mann of course does not tell his readers this other very important fact, sort of like what he did in “hide the decline” by not reporting negative results that compromised his argument. Mann was doing most of the foot dragging that caused such long delays as the case has been active since 2011.

As Mark Steyn once pointed out; “the process is the punishment “.



O’Sullivan writes:

In short, Mann’s responsive statement is:

  1. Stark admission he lost fair and square
  2. A disingenuous argument that the Dismissal was granted merely on the basis of Mann’s “delay” in not submitting his R2 numbers in a timely fashion.

The case has gone on an entire nine years.

On that point, this is where readers may wish to refer to the article ‘Fatal Courtroom Act Ruins Michael ‘Hockey Stick’ Mann‘ (July 4, 2017). In it they offered analysis as to Mann’s fatal legal error. As Dr Ball explained at that time:

Michael Mann moved for an adjournment of the trial scheduled for February 20, 2017. We had little choice because Canadian courts always grant adjournments before a trial in their belief that an out of court settlement is preferable. We agreed to an adjournment with conditions. The major one was that he [Mann] produce all documents including computer codes by February 20th, 2017. He failed to meet the deadline.

As I explained in the article, Mann (and his crooked lawyer) had shown bad faith, thereby rendering his case liable for dismissal. I urged Tim to pursue that winning tactic and thankfully he did.

Assisting Dr Ball has been a huge honor for me and probably one of the greatest achievements of my life. But Tim only won this famous courtroom battle thanks to massive worldwide grassroots support.



Anthony: So, as usual, in my opinion Dr. Mann’s ego interprets the facts only in ways that suit his viewpoint, which is the whole reason he got into trouble with the hockey-stick in the first place.

And it isn’t just me who thinks Mann’s arguments are merit-less, in the other defamation case he is pursuing, he has no friends:

Mann’s media buddies leave him high and dry – oppose his lawsuit

Twenty-four media organizations, including The Washington Post, NBC Universal, and Fox News, have sided with the conservative National Review and free market-leaning Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI) over a defamation lawsuit brought by a leading climate scientist.

The organizations, which also included the Society of Professional Journalists and the American Civil Liberties Union of the District of Columbia, were signatories to a Feb. 13, letter filed with the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, in which both the National Review and the Competitive Enterprise Institute requested a rehearing of their case before the full appeals court.

In December 2018, a three-judge panel amended a previous ruling against them. But according to the Reporters Committee for the Freedom of the Press, which represents the two-dozen media groups, a full rehearing of the case is now “warranted.”

“The panel’s decision on the merits of plaintiff’s defamation claim … may have unintended and undesirable consequences in future cases implicating the exercise of amici’s right to freedom of speech and of the press,” attorneys for the Reporters Committee stated.

Read it here: https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/02/22/manns-media-buddies-leave-him-high-and-dry-oppose-his-lawsuit/

These two quotes seem relevant to Dr. Mann’s travails, and I think the first one speaks loudly to his “save the planet from global warming” machinations:

When any man is more stupidly vain and outrageously egotistic than his fellows, he will hide his hideousness in humanitarianism. –George Moore

Egotism is the anesthetic which nature gives us to deaden the pain of being a fool. Dr. Herbert Shofield

UPDATE #2

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August 22, 2019 9:05 pm

Super Congrats, Dr. Ball!!! Is there still a possibility for you to commence a countersuit???

Thomas McFadden
August 22, 2019 9:23 pm

God Bless Dr Tim Ball. Having the fortitude to take that fake malicious phony scientist actor and paid lunatic to court and prevail. It will be a cold day in hell when these eco-fascist climate phony’s prevail with their fake false and misleading scientific claims design to defraud the people of Canada and the united States of America. Braveo…..Well Done there Dr Ball. You can be proud of your long troddened foray into the corporate corrupt court systems but in this instance you have succeeded in exposing that Fraudulent fake false deceptive crony Piece of fecal mater Michel Mann. Salute you sir. Best wishes to you and your family from an American who believes in the Rule of Law, the power of your work and the tenacity of your spirit.

Ed Zuiderwijk
August 22, 2019 9:29 pm

You won’t hear that on the BBC.

ResourceGuy
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
August 23, 2019 6:29 am

+20

Peter Hannan
August 22, 2019 9:41 pm

Great!

ThomasJ
August 22, 2019 9:57 pm

Most fantastic good news to start a Friday up with ! 🙂
Plenty, huge Congrats from Sweden, Dr. Ball ! 🙂
Brgds
//ThomasJ

August 22, 2019 10:05 pm

Perhaps those who know Mr. Mann’s address would like to send him a consolation prize:
https://images.app.goo.gl/YrsxBQzEnswDvwRw8

You know, for the “sick burn” he just got…

Kleinefeldmaus
August 22, 2019 10:34 pm

Mikey makes a habit of this…..you would think he like a hot ass, But this one has been a loooooong time a’coming.
https://youtu.be/Jotl-7CG5b0

Kleinefeldmaus
August 22, 2019 10:38 pm

Mikey makes a habit of this – maybe he likes hot pants

https://youtu.be/Jotl-7CG5b0

Steven Mosher
August 22, 2019 10:41 pm

If folks want to pay

https://justice.gov.bc.ca/cso/esearch/civil/searchPartyResult.do?serviceId=55926978

The last update to the case was August 20

Will cost you 6 bucks

Martin Hovland
August 22, 2019 10:42 pm

This is a day of victory for the world’s Climate Realists! Put the flag up, especially here in Norway, who discgraced the world by issuing the Nobel Peace Prize to these thugs of the Universe….!

NorwegianSceptic
Reply to  Martin Hovland
August 23, 2019 12:22 am

Well said, Martin! 🙂

PaulD
Reply to  Martin Hovland
August 24, 2019 7:02 pm

After a bit more research it appears to me that the phrase “cost follows the event” includes an award of attorney fees to the winner as is the usual practice in Canada.

Douglas
August 22, 2019 10:52 pm

Congratulations Dr. Ball. It’s been far too long – but victory is all the sweeter for all that.
Well done

Jim Masterson
August 22, 2019 10:58 pm

Congratulations Dr. Ball! Sometimes those who are correct and honest win.

Jim

High Treason
August 22, 2019 10:59 pm

We need to find out just how far we can go in terms of criticizing bogus science so we know what will now be known to be safe from prosecution. This should allow a flood of valid criticism which dodgy scientists will have to cop on the chin. From there, we can make inroads in to the BS science out there as we push the boundaries.
Mind you, as Mann has basically infinite legal financial resources at his disposal, we can not rule out an appeal or another action. Ideally, Mann should also compensate Dr Ball for stress, time and work expended on his defense. Given the years of trauma, this part of the settlement could go in to the millions. Perhaps some of this money can go in to a Conservative legal fund to fight such cases. This will help neuter the current lawfare we are seeing. BS artists will think twice about frivolous litigation if they know we have a legal fund behind us that is likely to grow to encompass us taking them to court.

August 22, 2019 11:05 pm

One small step for truth, one giant loss for Mannkind (with apologies to Neil Armstrong)

Reply to  John Collis
August 23, 2019 12:45 am

Otherwise put, those paying the Mann will have to start paying the Ball instead.

Tim Wylie
Reply to  Neil Lock
August 23, 2019 6:15 am

That, Sir, was beautifully done !

John Doran
August 23, 2019 12:46 am

The Stalinist Megafraud is finally defeated!
HOOOORAY.
I never tire of recommending Dr. Tim’s great little handbook for the layman:
Human Caused Global Warming The Biggest Deception In History
Only 121 pages reveals all: the science & scandals, the politics & profiteers.
Names the multi-billionaires funding the warming/climate fraud:
bankster Rockefellers & sidekick Soros, Ted Turner & Maurice Strong etc.
Names their motives.
Names the frauds who concocted the 97% consensus lies: Naomi Oreskes & John Cook.
Dr. Tim Ball, & his family, are genuine heroes.
A great way to start a Friday.

bwegher
Reply to  John Doran
August 23, 2019 4:13 pm

Agree. Dr. Ball has earned a high place in the pantheon of skeptics.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/05/05/the-biggest-deception-in-the-human-caused-global-warming-deception/

David Vanegas
August 23, 2019 1:22 am

This is fantastic news. I’m so happy for Dr. Ball. 🍾

August 23, 2019 1:26 am

Congratulations to Dr Ball – a well deserved win.

But, I also feel sorry for Mann. As detestable a character as he is, he’s still a human and will be feeling pretty devastated finding his view of reality is not supported by the judge. Like many others he too has been swept along by the wave of groupthink. Yes, he’s clearly got some nasty character flaws – but he who has not got a character flaw should cast the first stone.

Michael H Anderson
Reply to  Mike Haseler (Scottish Sceptic)
August 23, 2019 5:41 am

Ahem…I have great respect for you sir, but F*CK HIM! He’s one of the key players in the “smash the hopes of the western middle class” movement, a dyed-in-the-wool eco-fascist. No sympathy at all.

Ariane Loening
Reply to  Mike Haseler (Scottish Sceptic)
August 23, 2019 7:49 am

Mike,
Another realist here. However, I think Mann deserves no sympathy. Yes, we are all human, but that’s not the point here, is it?

Michael H Anderson
Reply to  Ariane Loening
August 23, 2019 7:32 pm

Not the point at all, no indeed. Josef Goebbels was human, Charles Manson was human. I am human and flawed as can be – but I’ve never helped spearhead a movement designed from the ground up to, as Maurice Strong admitted to the world at Rio, dismantle the western powers and condemn billions of my fellow human beings to penury.

Gerald Machnee
Reply to  Mike Haseler (Scottish Sceptic)
August 23, 2019 8:18 am

He caused the groupthink.

sycomputing
Reply to  Mike Haseler (Scottish Sceptic)
August 23, 2019 6:04 pm

. . . he’s still a human and will be feeling pretty devastated finding his view of reality is not supported by the judge.

Nonsense. He’s just ramped up his propensity to bear false witness against his neighbor (emphasis added):

“This ruling absolutely does not involve any finding that Ball’s allegations were correct in fact or amounted to legitimate comment. In making his application based on delay, Ball effectively told the world he did not want a verdict on the real issues in the lawsuit.”

Furthermore, he cares nothing for this court’s opinion of his suit. Rather than being “devastated,” he’s defiant that it continue (emphasis added):

“The dismissal involved the alleged exercise of a discretion on the Court to dismiss a lawsuit for delay. I have an absolute right of appeal. My lawyers will be reviewing the judgment and we will make a decision within 30 days.”

Rod Evans
August 23, 2019 1:45 am

Congratulations Tim Ball, !!
Perhaps 2019 will go down in history as the year the world “woke” up to the fraud of Mann Made Climate Change.
Peter Ridd won against JCU, Tim Ball wins against Mann. Who knows the Steyn versus Mann case might accelerate beyond the OK glacier rate….

CheshireRed
August 23, 2019 1:45 am

Back in your box, Mann.

Steve Borodin
August 23, 2019 1:54 am

Prediction: it won’t get a mention on the BBC, Guardian, Independent, New York Times, Washington Post or CNN. I hope I am wrong.

Anyway, well done Dr Ball. WE hope Mark Steyn can follow soon.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Steve Borodin
August 23, 2019 2:40 am

Nor in Australia. Nothing that sheds a “bad” light on renewables and “climate science”. We didn’t get to hear Walmart is suing Tesla. Elon Musk the “electric Jesus”…

Serge Wright
August 23, 2019 2:32 am

The lesson here is “Play the Mann and not the Ball” !!!

Gurnsy
Reply to  Serge Wright
August 23, 2019 6:24 am

Oohhh! I do like that!
It’s a game of two halves, as they say.

Michael F
August 23, 2019 2:45 am

All we need now is for the James Cook University’s appeal against the Peter Ridd win against them to be dismissed and the world will be a better place and restored to a level of sanity we haven’t known for more than two decades.

Scott Jones
August 23, 2019 3:22 am

So did Mann ever release his data he manipulated to develop a hockey stick?

August 23, 2019 3:48 am

Hooray

August 23, 2019 5:39 am

Another nail in the coffin of this lunacy. Thank you Dr. Ball.

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