Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Anyone here believe that global warming zealots want to stop at 19%?
Germany may introduce ‘meat tax’ to protect the environment
Currently meat has reduced tax rate of 7 per cent but politicians say it should increase to 19
Phoebe Weston Science Correspondent @phoeb0
1 day ago
Germany could introduce a “meat tax” to protect the climate and improve animal welfare.Currently meat in the country has a reduced tax rate of seven per cent but the Social Democrat party and the Greens are arguing that this should increase to the standard 19 per cent, with additional revenue spent on improving animal welfare.
“I am in favour of abolishing the VAT reduction for meat and earmarking it for more animal welfare,” Friedrich Ostendorf, agricultural policy spokesperson for the Greens told The Local website.
He said it mad “no sense” that meat was taxed at seven per cent while oat milk is taxed at 19 per cent.
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Read more: https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/german-meat-tax-environment-animal-welfare-a9045271.html
While most people think of Germans as wealthy, there is a lot of poverty in Germany. According to a DW article in 2018, around 20% of Germans are struggling to pay their bills and heat their homes. This new meat tax if passed will simply add to their already intolerable burden.
Brilliant!! It will have ZERO effect on CO2 or anything climate related.
As selling of indulgences ever had an effect ?? 😀 😀
It is a malnutrition tax, as the goal is to have a vegan population that is permanently and disabilitatingly weak. The old adage from India is that “red meat causes war.” A malnourished person has not the energy to resist the oppressor. A nourished person, with the nutritional benefits of (red) meat, is able to resist the oppressor.
This is all about suppression of the general population and a major aspect would be to weaken their health. Simply educating them to be properly subservient, socialist, and poorly-educated servants is not good enough if a few bright bulbs stir up the masses. If they are both weak and stupid, a revolution is very unlikely.
Total nonsense. Your views are straight out of the (red) meat industry play book. A vegetarian diet is healthier and cheaper and doesn’t cause this:
Novak Djokovic,
Venus and Serena Williams,
Mac Danzig,
Scott Jurek,
Martina Navratilova,
Joe Namath,
Ricky Williams,
Carl Lewis,
Mike Tyson,
David Carter,
John Salley,
All vegetarian of vegan.
Loydo
Don’t know about you guys, but I have 4 teeth in my mouth which are there for eating meat.
I guess I was born that way:)
Cheers
Roger
A man walks into the psychiatrist’s office with a cucumber up his nose,a carrot in his left ear,and a banana in his right ear.He says,”What’s the matter with me?”
The psychiatrist says,”you’re not eating properly”.
MODS:
Why is this allowed to continue?
It seems to me that this commenter is abusing the site and mocking the comments.
Wrong A. If you would of been paying more attention today,I’ ve been commenting on various topics just now.Once in a while I crack a joke.Big deal! A, Your making a problem of something that’s not a problem.Your overreacting and exaggerating on an issue that’s all in your mind.Take a deep breath and relax and focus on the topics at large.Don’t preoccupy yourself with all this because you’re wasting your time by doing it.I’m trying to give you some good advice.please be receptive about it.Feel better and Enjoy your day.
You’ve also got nipples Roger.
You forgot Adolf Hitler(deceased)
Or is he????
Just kidding. Hitler was also vigilantly anti-smoking. No one was allowed to smoke in his presence, and that was in the 1930s!!!
So what? I don’t want to any of these people. I’m happy as myself.
Celebrity endorsements are for credulous fools like you.
Have you ever wondered why poor people start eating more meat when they become wealthier?
I refuted Charles Higley’s patently ignorant opinion with some familiar examples: strong, fit, elite athletes.
You go straight to the insults?
Loydo, you forgot to tell us, ….. just how old was:
Novak Djokovic,
Venus and Serena Williams,
Mac Danzig,
Scott Jurek,
Martina Navratilova,
Joe Namath,
Ricky Williams,
Carl Lewis,
Mike Tyson,
David Carter,
and John Salley,
when they decided to become “non-protein” ingesting vegetarians?
Was it in their late 30s, …… 40s, …… 50s, …… when?
Probably same as me. Meat-eater for decades.
There is no such thing as a “non-protein” ingesting vegetarian, btw.
Nonsense.
Listing advocates and activists fails to prove anything.
USDA’s nutritional database fails to find vegetarianism healthier.
History clearly and repeatedly marks the points where humans living mostly of plants increased their meat intake.
The dean at my granddaughter’s medical school told them that half you learn here is wrong.
This tells you why—“While this study doesn’t prove that red meat causes breast cancer or that chicken prevents it, its lead author suggests the switch is worth considering.” Don’t matter, but do it anyway. https://consumer.healthday.com/cancer-information-5/breast-cancer-news-94/red-meat-may-raise-breast-cancer-risk-749127.html
Loydo -I just got off my road bike, a 23 mile ride. In addition to my normal daily calorie intake, that effort burned an additional 1,400 calories. Other than the consumption of meat, there is no efficient way for me to ingest that many calories.
I’d love to see the list of active vegetarian athletes – I wager you could fit them into a few phone booths.
You should probably do a cursory check before risking your hard-earned.
You can eat a can of Crisco – vegetable animal versions – doesn’t matter.
Wait until you get older. Lifelong vegetarians ruin their bodies and end up with blood pressure and cholesterol problems normally attributed to meat eaters. I have an elderly life long vegetarian relative going through these problems now. Not pleasantm
“Vegetarians ruin their bodies and end up with blood pressure and cholesterol problems”
Rubbish. You’re mistaking anecdotal heresay as evidence. If I know a healthy elderly vegetarian does that negate your story?
There is enough information on the subject of vegetarian diets and poor health – where my relative story is more than just ancedotal. Now let’s talk about anorexia and vegetarianism which are strongly linked.
I wish this statement did seem so credible.
I think you’re right. Only the well-to-do will enjoy meat and remain healthy. The poor always pay for the follies of the left.
Loydo aka Griff thinks he will be part of the elite. Perhaps as a pet dog eating by-products.
“If they are both weak and stupid, a revolution is very unlikely.”
Well that at least means we are safe from any revolting Greens…
But it WILL reduce grain prices 63%.
War on coal is so 2009.
War on farming
I dunno… if they keep milking oats…
I surely hope that was a typo. Oat milk?? My wife buys ground up watery almond paste labeled as “almond milk”. As if any white-ish watery goo is milk.
Milk only comes from teats. It is oat and almond juice. But, as Lewis Black pointed out, nobody will buy it if it is labeled juice. Here’s a suggestion, when the carton is empty, look in the bottom and see the residue from the coagulants that they put in there to thicken it up. And you voluntarily drink that crap.
But it’s vegan crap, so must be good for you.
Once again, someone is trying to steal from you, whilst claiming that the theft is “for your own good”. Why is taking yet more of my money a benefit to me? How?
Just remember, vegans are pasture-fed long pork, and come the fall they will be a sought after delicacy. (Perhaps I should mention to our American friends that by “fall”, I don’t mean this coming autumn…or do I?)
There was a court case some years ago (sorry I don’t know which country and don’t have a link) in which the dairy industry sued a company selling sun protection products for calling them “cream” and “milk” (as in “sun cream”). They lost, with the judge saying that the words “cream” and “milk” had passed into general usage and could not be protected.
I laugh at soy milk ready made buyers
1cup of soy flour in a litre of water heat cool strain ..done
diy is a few cents
premade is near 3$ in aus
why the hell anyone bothers drinking it beats me
its foul
like Tofu the supposed tasty protien replacer
one bite was enough to spit n never do that again
funny the amazons being cleared for gmo soy
that needs a lot more fertiliser than their soils have
rainforest soils tend to be poor for much else than limited trees n vines etc
one crop wonders.
theyd be better allowing cows to graze and fertilise, but I fugure the cows would be hungry with little grasses and understory of use to them
It isn’t really juice either since the almonds,soybeans, oats whatever separate from the liquid and sink to the bottom and leave a rough feel on the mouth as well.
So to make it palitable the add.salts sugars and especially gums and emulsifiers. These stabilize the product and give it a milk like drink feel. The stuff is more processed than soda or artificial fruit punch.
Maybe “goat milk”, not “oat milk”?
No, I’m afraid that wasn’t a typo. It really was ‘oat milk’.
I’m guessing that your first language isn’t English, so it’s entirely forgivable that you don’t realise how debased English has become.
Rocket – Something you might be over-looking. I’m not a vegan or anything like that and I eat meat. But I’m lactose intolerant. I can eat cheese or yogurt but if I drink more than about half a cup of real milk I get sick. The last time I drank real milk was two years ago and afterwards I was sick all afternoon. Yet I like the taste of milk.
When I get a craving for milk I drink almond milk or soy milk. It’s a poor substitute for the real thing. But if you pretend real hard it tastes vaguely like milk.
how many ground up almonds are a full glass of almond milk?
(if you guessed more than one, you were wrong)
Too bad you can’t drink the real stuff, it’s good food.
Does goat milk work …? I’ve never tried it. When I was given a few jars of goat cheese I smiled politely and said thanks (a few miles down the road I realized they were still on the bumper, pulled over and put them in car, then into the fridge). After a month or so, when I had ran out of real snacks, I tried using the goat cheese as chip dip … ate the whole pint. Goat cheese is good food too … it just costs too much. (and I had no luck with getting more free cheese when I stopped by the cheese givers’ house to “check on the long term outcome of the project”)
Boy do I understand that. Within 30 days of my 17th birthday, I became highly lactose intolerant, and, as far as I know, the only one so affected among my closest relatives. I learned that the hard way. I am so highly intolerant that much more than a tablespoon (15 cc) results in gas, cramps and diarrhea. Milk must be fermented enough for me to handle it. Cottage cheese, yogurt, buttermilk or any cheese is fine. I’d rather drink buttermilk (it is an acquired taste) than having lactaid added to it. I’ve never tried goat’s milk; but given how lactose intolerant I am, I’d rather not do that experiment on myself.
The “progressive” left loves regressive taxes.
Excellent phrase
..and he thinks it’s unfair…what’s unfair is why not lower the other taxes down to 7%
They obviously hate the poor in Germany which is who this change will most effect.
They are mad – they will ruin the economy of Germany and of Europe. China will love this because it leaves her clear to pursue her competitive capitalism. We think Chinese communism must necessarily fail eventually. But communistic capitalism will probably work better that our democratic capitalism.
People will argue that what we have isn’t real capitalism.
It isn’t.
“Communistic capitalism” is an oxymoron.
China is proving it is not.
2/3 of China’s GDP is owned by the Chinese Communist party. The other 1/3 is the part of the economy that sells to the west. That 2/3 CCP ownership is highly inefficient and drags the economy down. In the long run it can’t be sustained. Hitler realized that and was a major reason for his war expansion plans which of course led to disaster. The 1/3 that is capitalistic has cheated its way to success by stealing and hacking technology and by forcing technology transfer from foreign firms that wanted to break into the largest world market. Trump is fighting back and China is hurting. Their latest survival tactic is a devaluation of the yen. This only works for so long until inflation becomes a huge problem. There are no easy answers to economics. What the Chinese have going for them like all Asians is they are extremely hard workers. I see the Chinese families in Canada who put a hell of a lot of pressure on their kids. 80% end up getting higher education, a number far higher than Caucasians.
Maybe maybe not. I think it is referring to a capitalist system of economy but a social system of communism. The 2 can live side by side.
The technical term is “fascism”. That leftists love China is natural – they just love totalitarianism.
There is much that should shock us over in China. Just ask Hong Kong.
The most shocking thing, to me, is that President Xi has managed to manipulate things so that there no longer are limits to the term of the President. That is to say, he is President of China for LIFE.
Some democracy. Some freedom.
Of course every time you bring up China as an example of Marxist doctrine in practice, the lefty proponent will say ‘that’s not the way it’s supposed to be’.
But every cow,pig and edible bird will get a monthly allowance.
Get rid of the population and let the country go back to wilderness. It is the perfect plan… for Loydo / Griff and the self-styled elite.
“communistic capitalism” will work for a while. But as the business owners get wealthy and increase power the government must subdue them to maintain control. More and more control by the government, then total take over, and you end up with totalitarian communism. You won’t end with free-market capitalism because the nature of communism total control.
I think it is better described as ………as the business owners get wealthy and increase power the government must get bigger with more dysfunctional employees that want more control, salaries and entitlements than the business owners or their employees and thus more and more Laws must be passed for control by the government employees.
We have fake news, fake science and now fake meat. A 19% tax on real meat will just be another tax grab that the politicians get used to that will probably never end, just like the carbon tax. It is the poor and middle class that absorbs the bulk of price increases for basic necessities and a 19% German tax on meat will still include the inefficiencies of carbon taxation, along with exorbitent electricity pricing that is also fostered upon the bulk of the population in the name of ‘carbon’. The tax on meat will be felt by the poor and middle class who spend more of their disposable income on basic survival and just like the carbon tax, it introduces inflation into the economy for basic survival for which the poor pay the ultimate price. After paying more for meat and electricity in the name of ‘carbon’ it just means there will be less money by the poor and middle class to purchase other basic necessities to survive, not to mention less money to spend on non essential items like tourism which also is under direct attack unless you are flying to a climate conference.
Get a backbone Germans. Overturn this slow tightening of the screws. Save your culture, save your innovativeness, save your industry, save your economy. Surely you don’t buy into the climate bull. When they have you in the bag, you are there for generations and nothing bad is going tohappen to the planet. But when you realize that, it will be too late.
I beg your pardon? Germany is the most ardent “climate saving” nation in Europe. That’s why they have not reduced their co2 emissions for the last ten years.
The effect (and intent?) of this tax will be to drive the less well off to using “meat substitute”, which mirabile dictu, will not be subject to the tax. Just like “renewable energy” is being imposed on the masses! Vegan meat loaf anyone?
They tax food?????????? so they can have windmills ???????
It is just a PR excercise ahead of todays IPCC report release
https://www.ipcc.ch/2019/08/08/land-is-a-critical-resource_srccl/
I’d be ok with a meat-head tax but only if I get to decide who gets charged.
I would impose a 50% tax on any meat-head who tells me a VAT is a great idea.
Germany’s cuisine is heavily meat based.
Do these fools learn nothing from Frances attempt to tax diesel to stop AGW?
Germans will breaking out their yellow vests…street protests in short order !
@a_scientist
I hope they will, but as I know “my” Germans, I fear they wont.
They are in general to obedient. They change maybe the party they elect the next time.
More room to grow biomass if we stop greedy people eating meat!
Probably more “Black Shirts “than Yellow Vests! Facisism arises from a bullying guvment, rather than a truly democratic one!
Germany has one of the higher proportion of vegetarians at about 10% and increasing fast.
https://vebu.de/veggie-fakten/entwicklung-in-zahlen/anzahl-veganer-und-vegetarier-in-deutschland/
It it peaks and fads out like the fad it is. Vegetarian did the same thing it spiked and then dropped back.
Trendy fads do have that sort of behaviour 🙂
You made that up.
All that you post here loydo is made up .
Well most is, get a life .
Methane from farmed livestock is a non problem ,
If greenhouse gasses are a problem then blame the problem which is the extraction and combustion of fossil fuels that have been locked up for millions of years.
That is adding a small portion of the rising levels of CO2 and CH4 in the atmosphere.
Hey loydo do you see that capital C that is one carbon atom .
Animals eat carbohydrates and cellulose that has absorbed C carbon from the air.
A small amount of CH4 is emitted through belching as the animals are digesting the vegetation .
Now in about 8 years that CH4 breaks down in the upper atmosphere into CO2 and H2O.
Then the cycle continues with the vegetation absorbing the CO2 and the animals eating it .
Now here is the Question loydo .
How much C (that is carbon loydo)is added to the atmosphere .
The answer is none, not any ,nothing to worry your little head about .
Methane from livestock is a red hot herring .
Pushed by political activists .
Lay the blame were it should be coal ,oil and gas extraction via fugitive emissions and leave farmed livestock alone .
You made yourself up…Griffo
Why, even their potato salad has bacon in it!
All I want to say is if this 19% tax is passed, that just means more bratwurst for me!
The tax cannot possibly have any effect on climate. The animals involved eat plants and not fossil fuels. For those that believe in greenhouse gas theory there will be no net effect on CO2 levels in the Earth’s atmosphere.
The reality is that, based on the paleoclimate record and the work done with models, the climate change we are experiencing today is caused by the sun and the oceans over which mankind has no control. Despite the hype, there is no real evidence that CO2 has any effect on climate and there is plenty of scientific rationale that the climate sensitivity of CO2 is zero. So decreasing the amount of CO2 in the Earth’s atmosphere will have no effect on the Earth’s surface temperature.
A significant fraction of plant protein comes from nitrogen based fertilizers that were produced using natural gas.
And who is gonna eat the grass and cattle feed if we get rid of cows?
Probably they are concerned about the methane produced, by cows for example. But yes, it is idiotic.
Well said William Haas
So they will tax meat so the animals can have better lifes before they are killed…. How does his save the planet?
Nobody has said it yet so I will. Wurst idea EVAH!
The Third Reich achieved progressively a very creative tax system. Including a “guillotine (fallbeil) wear and tear tax” for the families of the executed.
Then B-29’s, Mosquitoes and other Yak’s took care of business.
B-29s were only used in the Pacific theater. B-17s, B-24s, Lancasters were the heavies used against Germany.
May I add the Halifax?
There is a quiet irony in the fact the Halifax did so much damage to the German war machine when it was Halifax, the appeasing foreign secretary who wanted to strike a pact with Germany, before Churchill took control.
The urge to call the bouncing bombs Moseley’s was a joke too far.
Given it’s effective payload on a mission over Germany generally 4000 lbs give or take… the B-17 wasn’t really a heavy bomber.. given that you could get a 4000 Lb “cookie” into a Mosquito “light” bomber…
The Lancaster was the only one that could carry the 5 and 10 ton earthquake bombs – with a bit of weight trimming tis true – because of the single bomb bay.
B-17 had the payload of a medium bomber, but range of a heavy. However, it needed less tonnage to achieve the same results as night bombers, since bombing by day was more accurate.
Its heavy defensive armament naturally reduced its payload.
Even a Corsair fighter-bomber could carry three bombs totaling 4000#, after Lindbergh figured out how to do it. But not very far. Same for Hellcat.
Thunderbolt could deliver 2500#; Tiffy and Tempest 2000#.
Had B-29 not been available in August 1945, 20th Air Force would have had to drop atomic bombs from Lancs.
No matter the numbers, they (we ?) got the message. For some time at least.
How will the climate war end is another ball game. And this is what really matters.
What Ted said.
Honestly, if more students studied aviation history and not liberal arts we wouldn’t be having this problem.
People will be telling me they can’t tell the difference between an A, B and C wing in a Spitfire next!
They probably would not know what a Spitfire is.
And they probably have no idea that Hitler escaped to Agentina and then to a cavern under the South Pole. How easy they forget.
Spitfires are easy, Hurricanes had A, B, C and D variants plus fabric or metal.
Because of climate change, our children won’t know what Hurricanes were.
It used to be taboo to tax food when I was young. Soon all people will have to pay a breathing tax for the CO2 we emit. The money will be spent on camps where the enviro fascist enact their final solution.
Remember Hitler was a socialist.
In the UK food unless it is prepared and served is zero rated for VAT
Today…
German policy makers really seem intent on going after the least effective and least cost-effective measures to reduce their greenhouse gas emissions first.
One of the big ironies to their “Energiewende” is that if they had spent as long and as much as they have building out wind and solar on nuclear power instead, they’d have decarbonized their entire electric power sector by now and they could be moving on to decarbonizing other sectors of their economy. Instead, their per capita CO2 emissions, for all their effort, have done no better than decline at the same rate as they have in other developed nations.
Seems not to be accepted by all politicians here in Germany.
I do agree that if food is going to be taxed, there’s no good reason to create price distortions by taxing it at different rates.
Wrong there is a very good reason if you want a fair tax system … you make higher taxes on discretionary spending. That way it affects the rich more than the poor because they have more discretionary spending.
Play with the numbers lets say a poor person with 4 kids earns 100 Euro a pay period and spends 40 Euro on food. Meanwhile the rich person earns 1000 Euro a pay period and spends 100 euro on food. Now increase the tax and the poor persons food bill goes to 44.4 Euro (4.4% rise) meanwhile the rich persons food bill went to 111 Euro (1.1%) rise.
That is why you avoid taxing essentials for life because it disproportionately affects the poorest in your country its basic economics 101 … always tax discretionary spending because it will target the rich who can afford it.
I don’t see anywhere in the linked article which claims raising the tax on meat will have any effect on global warming (not that others haven’t made that claim elsewhere; I just don’t see it here). The justification is it will improve “animal welfare”.
Where tax policy is concerned, there is never any sanity.
When I lived in Connecticut food at the grocery store was not taxed but prepared meals were, on the premise that lower-income people would eat mostly home-cooked meals and therefore mostly avoid the tax.
Seems reasonable, but one absurd result was a $40 cut of filet cost nothing in tax but a $3 meal at Burger King did.
Connecticut also did not tax any single clothing item costing less that $75, on the same premise. Again, good in theory but it meant there was no tax on a $74 pair of luxury suede gloves, but there was on a pair of $1.99 work gloves (“work gloves” are not “clothing items”).
My preference would be no tax at all on food, but if you are going to tax food, I don’t see anything unfair about taxing all kinds of food at the same rate.
As I said, don’t ever expect sanity in tax policy.
The justification is it will improve “animal welfare”.
Well maybe.. but my guess is that the goal is to eliminate the raising of meat which, of course, will eliminate the welfare of the animal good or bad.
We have known for a long time that well cared for livestock are more profitable… Anyone who thinks that bureaucrats with no skin in the game are better judges of animal welfare than the farmers who depend on them for our income, is retarded.
Same goes for slaughter. Stressed animals are tougher and taste less attractive. Only a fool are a vegan would blindly accept the idea that we spend time and effort raising a quality product, only to cut its value by lack of care in processing.
Wie heissen sie! CA taxes it’s recreational marijuana at 15% retail. Achtung Deutschland! isn’t it time you legalized marijuana and taxed all the stoners, instead of the Beefeaters!?
I think that both the Greens and the so called “”Progressives”” have gone too far this time.
The Inner City Greens withy their mostly very high salaries can afford this. I recall the story from the Bible about “”The Widows Mite””.
Oh well lets hear it for no meat, but “”Let them eat Cake”” instead.
MJR VK5ELL
Yes it is definitely a regressive tax on the poor and will hit them hardest. I guess the German greens really do hate the poor.
The poor don’t spend a lot on meat.
Meat already costs more than filler; tax won’t alter most poor folks eating habits. If you want to help the poor tax mcdonalds and use the tax to subsidize real food.
Ironically, this will yield more animals farting — not less, thus contributing to the “Chicken Little theatre politique”. Isn’t that odd? Social-Democrats: Socially corrupt, but Democratic enough to tax you to death on everything they hate so they can control you. “As for me and my house, we will serve THE LORD!” not these Philistines.
Wurst idea! Nich sehr gut.
More expensive bratwurst, the Germans are really going to like that.
If the bratwurst is only 50% meat (the rest vegetable products), is only the meat 50% taxed? [think bologna and mostof the processed ‘meat’ products in the USA]
Personally I would go for a tax of 100% on anything sold as Vegan, Trendy or Enviromenatlly friendly because then the tax will target the rich inner city greens who can afford it. The perfect Tax system would also have extra taxes on “hip” or “trending” inner city suburbs as they represent groups of people who can easily afford to pay extra.
Now there is sensible tax proposal I could get behind.
What do yo call a pissed off German? Sauerkraut
What do you call a blind German? A not see
How do Germans tie their shoes? With little knotsies
What did the German kid say when he pushed his brother off a cliff? “Look ,mother,no Hans!”
Dan Cody
You really are in way over your head.
Please contribute or desist.
Tony,you’re the one that’s way over your head with your constant belly aching over my joke telling.You need to lighten up and stop your childish complaining.I choose to do what i want to do in my comments and you shouldn’t even care.It’s way past your bedtime now.Go sleep it off. Good night
I agree with TonyL.
Your ‘humor’ is not funny. It is old snd stale. I heard most of your quips more than a half-century ago. They were not funny then.
Original, relevant quips or plays on words are one thing, but stale grade-school humor is just a cluttering nuisance. It adds nothing to the forum.
Jtom,I don’t care whether you think my humor is funny or not.Most people,judging from the comments i’ve received over the past few days,like my humor.It’s all a matter of opinion.Still,you sound like someone who takes things too seriously and needs to lighten up a little and develop a sense of humor. You’ll feel better for it and it helps to have that attribute because it’s healthy for the mind and spirit. criticizing others a lot is only going to make you full of bad feelings such as anger and frustration leading to bitterness,high blood pressure,heart problems,unhappiness,misery,etc. JTOM, I only have good intentions here in trying to help you with some good advice.Please be receptive to it instead of complaining so much.It’s time for you to let go and move on.Feel better and have a good day.
Dan, I have a great sense of humor. The problem is, you don’t. You don’t understand the concept. Here is some help for you: Grow up. Give up the childish take on what’s funny, and embrace intelligent humor. Also learn that there is a time and a place for everything, and when something is appropriate or not. Here’s a hint: do you see anyone else on this forum behaving as you do? Get a clue.
Jtom,if you had any sense of what a sense of humor is,you wouldn’t of made that overly serious,nasty reply towards me.You’re the one that needs to grow up and start being nice to others by acting like an adult,not like a pouting child. Feel better Jtom.
Mods, this guy seems to be intent of trolling every thread and is now straying into the area of making offensive ethnic “jokes”.
Relax Nicholas.There not meant to be offensive to anyone. It’s just a little light hearted humor as a change of pace amidst all this scientific discussion that seems to never end.Lighten up and try to smile a little.Enjoy yourself.Have a good night.
I agree. At least put this troll on moderation and cue his comments for some of the offensive stuff he is spewing. Why is he allowed to post jokes here anyway? This isn’t a joke forum. Just delete this idiot. He isn’t adding anything to the conversation here and is starting to give this wonderful site a black eye with some of his stupid jokes.
you’re the one giving the black eye by making nasty comments calling and labeling others nasty names coming from someone who is really the nasty one. Your negative attitudes are far far worse than my light hearted jokes.You shouldn’t even care or be concerned about my comments.Don’t wast tout time worrying about it..If you’re smart and feel bothered,then ignore the comments and move on! That’s a lot better than hearing your complaining and belly aching all the time.Do us all a favor an try to lighten up and not take things so seriously.You really sound like someone who isn’t fun to be around with.As I said,you need to move on and not let yourself get caught up in all this.Maybe Earthling2 should get beamed up! Have a good night.
I search for the joke, Dan, as German I can’t find it, I even can’t recognize some relations to Germans in the BS you wrote
😀
By BS, you meant ‘Best Satire’.
No. He really didn’t.
When the income tax was first established in the U.S. in 1913 the top rate was ONLY 7% and it ONLY applied to the richest people. But by 1944 the top rate was 94% and even the lowest bracket was 23%.
source; https://taxfoundation.org/us-federal-individual-income-tax-rates-history-1913-2013-nominal-and-inflation-adjusted-brackets
So once the government crooks get their foot in the door the sky is the limit.
“When the income tax was first established in the U.S. in 1913″
An income tax was introduced during the Civil War and discontinued after that war. Congress tried again in the 1890’s, and was slapped down by the Supreme Court. Hence, the 16th Amendment. That earlier tax return was one page, but looked remarkably like the current 1040.
In the US study was recently published in the Washington Post calling for a tax on food based on calories, ostensibly to fight obesity
Face it, there are groups who do not want you to have money, and the freedom to choose what to do with it. They are the ones who cannot function in a free society, and the only way they can have the same lifestyle as everyone else is for the government to provide an identical standard of living to all. They do not have the intellect to understand how that would impact a person’s willingness to work, accomplish, and excel.
Someone, please tell me where or what this tax will be paying for? A weather machine that changes the weather? I heard it was going to the world order group to pay for immigration to all European countries to wipe out the nation’s sovereignty.