Most Germans do not compromise on holidays for climate:survey

From Xinhua

Source: Xinhua| 2019-06-18 22:11:17|Editor: xuxin

BERLIN, June 18 (Xinhua) — A large majority of Germans said that the current climate debate has no influence on this year’s holiday plans, a survey conducted by the opinion research institute Civey on behalf of Spiegel Online on Tuesday showed.

More than 70 percent of the 5,000 Germans that were part of the sample group for the representative survey stated that the current climate debate had no impact on their holiday plans for 2019.

11.8 percent of Germans surveyed said that they would refrain from travel by air in view of the climate debate this year. About three percent of the respondents said they had abandoned plans for travelling on a cruise ship.

Green party supporters showed the strongest willingness to make concessions when planning their holidays. With 45.5 percent, almost every second supporter of the German green party stated that they would change their holiday plans in view of the climate debate.

Among supporters of the Social Democratic Party (SPD) and Left Party (Die Linke), people were less inclined to make sacrifices for the environment. About one in three said they would change their holiday plans.

The lowest willingness to change holiday plans was found among supporters of the Christian Democratic Union (CDU), 17 percent, and the Alternative for Germany (Afd) at only 7 percent.

When asked to describe their most important personal contribution to the topic of “sustainable consumption”, almost one in three Germans (29.3 percent) mentioned the avoidance of packaging waste.

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June 20, 2019 3:19 am

What people say they will do in polls!

Yeah right. Psstt, wanna buy a bridge?

The poll is liberal virtue signalling at its finest. Just look at the vacation activities of prominent climate action proponents: Justin Trudeau, David Suzuki, Al Gore, Barack Obama, Leo DiCaprio, etc.

Bryan A
Reply to  joe
June 20, 2019 12:07 pm

“Sustainable Consumption”
I’ll keep sustaining my consumption TYVM

Mike Bryant
June 20, 2019 3:27 am

“…almost every second supporter of the German green party stated that they would change their holiday plans in view of the climate debate.”
Yes… they “said” they would change their plans. Nobody’s checking on what really happens though, are they?
Virtue signaling is alive and well in Germany.

Reply to  Mike Bryant
June 20, 2019 9:30 am

Most members of the Green Party are too POOR to afford vacations. They just don’t earn enough € from their online dog sweater knitting business …

Reply to  Kenji
June 20, 2019 9:38 am

What are you talking about. The green party members as well as their voters are the most affluent section of German society

June 20, 2019 3:45 am

And next year when the concentration is on ‘xxxxx’ even fewer will worry about air travel and that 29.3% will be doing whatever the media and the econuts are pushing at the time. We’re being played!

The most depressing is the 45% of greenies prepared to do something for what they supposedly all believe in. Headline: More than half of all ‘environmentalists’ are hypocrites!

Well, who would have thought?

June 20, 2019 3:56 am

Few people buck the CAGW orthodoxy. If you ask them they will tell you it’s a problem. On the other hand, if you watch what they do, it’s not enough of a problem to make them change their behavior.

There is a federal election coming in Canada this fall. All of the political parties have a plan to reduce CO2 emissions. Of course, the Conservative plan tries not to affect the voters directly. The point is that they think they have to have a plan and fear that not doing so would cost them votes.

Bryan A
Reply to  commieBob
June 20, 2019 12:11 pm

I have a plan.
Plan for combatting Global Warming
Do Nothing

Easy enough to follow

Caligula Jones
Reply to  Bryan A
June 21, 2019 6:17 am


I believe that we should be looking towards what they do in public relations. I think there was a man who made $50,000 back in the 30s for two words when asked what to do about an issue: do nothing.

Geoff Sherrington
June 20, 2019 3:58 am

The Germans started a lot of this green nonsense. In the Australian mining industry in the mid 1970s we were compiling addresses of hundreds of green NGO officers and noting the global dominance of Germany.
Now it is just desserts time.
A seemingly intelligent country like Germany could hardly have made a worse job of destroying its energy and manufacturing base. So many good engineers must have been shut up.
Worse is yet to come as renewables phase one reach the end of their working life and decisions have to be made about replacement.
What a mess. And all so able to be seen from the start. Geoff

Reply to  Geoff Sherrington
June 20, 2019 6:55 am

Now it is just desserts time.

Make mine Cheescake with clotted cream. I am sure I deserve it.

Mark Broderick
June 20, 2019 5:06 am

“When asked to describe their most important personal contribution to the topic of “sustainable consumption”, almost one in three Germans (29.3 percent) mentioned the avoidance of packaging waste.”

Which has nothing to do with the “climate”…CO2 is NOT pollution..

Bloke down the pub
June 20, 2019 5:30 am

Care needs to be taken with interpreting all polls of this nature. If I was asked if the climate debate had changed my holiday plans then the answer would be no. I had no plans to fly or take a cruise before the debate and none afterwards.

michael hart
Reply to  Bloke down the pub
June 20, 2019 4:58 pm

Yes. They also claim “About three percent of the respondents said they had abandoned plans for travelling on a cruise ship.” Just what fraction of Germans really make plans to go on a cruise ship every year? I don’t believe it is several percent of the population.

Sounds like just another “poll” which is really just total fiction and a transparent marketing exercise for some organization or company.

June 20, 2019 6:12 am

“When asked to describe their most important personal contribution to the topic of “sustainable consumption”, almost one in three Germans (29.3 percent) mentioned the avoidance of packaging waste.”

One in three freely stated that they avoided packaging waste?
Not likely. That statement is evidence the answer was suggested.
Whether as ‘multiple choice’ or verbally suggested is irrelevant. The entire survey is severely conflicted by inherent bias.

Which brings up, exactly what packaging waste do these people avoid?
Likely, it is stuffing packaging waste into recycling containers and occasionally, maybe, using reusable bags for grocery shopping.

Even on a ‘virtue signalling’ ranking that mean minimal personal activity.
On a scale of what activists claim are mandatory environmental/climate lifestyle changes, those personal contributions are words, not actions.

John the Econ
June 20, 2019 6:21 am

“Not even half of Green Party supporters are willing to sacrifice their holiday for Climate Change”.

There, fixed it for you.

With Progressives, it’s always up to others to make and pay for the real sacrifices.

Bryan A
Reply to  John the Econ
June 20, 2019 12:15 pm

Alternate interpretations of given data are always welcome

June 20, 2019 6:42 am

On the other hand, this doesn’t tell us how or where Germans go on holiday… With a network of highspeed rail covering Europe from Germany perhaps they get on the train? Or just drive within the EU?

Meanwhile they can be happy that 47% of their electricity came from renewables in the first 5 months this year (just over 50% in May) on one of the world’s most reliable energy grids!

Patrick MJD
Reply to  griff
June 20, 2019 7:48 am

And several hundred thousand could not pay their power bills, let alone eat.

Reply to  griff
June 20, 2019 8:16 am

And most of intensive power using German heavy industry has been relocated to China 🙂

Reply to  griff
June 20, 2019 8:41 am

Link please Griff.

And for % provided by exterior sources, i.e. the “stability” portion.

Also, for sake of discussion, for all energy use including transportation.

Johann Wundersamer
Reply to  griff
June 20, 2019 8:50 am

Griff, “going on holidays” for the German means Adria, Teneriffa, Azores, Dom.Rep., Turkey, Bali, US, Indonesia …

By no means Schwarzwald, Genua, “on the train”.

Wonder if you ever made it to the Internet for touristic sites.

Caligula Jones
Reply to  Johann Wundersamer
June 20, 2019 11:20 am

I can converse not-so-badly in the Deutsche.

I can at least read it pretty well.

Ok, I can scan a menu.

Something that came in handy when I was in Majorca, let me tell you…

Reply to  griff
June 20, 2019 9:07 am

Q: How do you get rid of aristocratic German tourists?
A: Von by von.

Bryan A
Reply to  LdB
June 20, 2019 12:18 pm


Reply to  griff
June 20, 2019 9:20 am

The majority holiday in Germany or not at all. For the rest, the most popular foreign destinations are Spain, Italy, Greece, Croatia, France, Turkey, Austria, Switzerland. But except for the next door countries, certainly not by train or car. To the Mediterranean countries you want to fly. Spending 3 nights in a sleeper car to end up knackered in Athens is so 1970s.

And the plane is much cheaper too – thanks to EU deregulation Europe enjoys some of the cheapest flights in the world. Let’s hope the greenies don’t stop this party – and there’s a risk Macron and Merkel are going to. And there we were thinking Brexit was a spoilsport …

Johann Wundersamer
Reply to  griff
June 20, 2019 9:31 am

In the following we want to introduce you to the 12 most beautiful holiday destinations worldwide –

Im Folgenden wollen wir euch die 12 schönsten Urlaubsziele weltweit vorstellen!

1. Lake Taupo, Neuseeland. …
2. Santorin, Griechenland. …
3. Bath, England. …
4. Arizona, USA. …
5. Tokio, Japan. …
6. Phong Nha – Kẻ Bàng Nationalpark, Vietnam. …
7. Malediven, Indischer Ozean. …
New York City, USA.

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Patrick MJD
Reply to  Johann Wundersamer
June 20, 2019 5:11 pm

I can understand number 1, but number 3, Bath, UK?!

Reply to  Patrick MJD
June 22, 2019 9:12 am

Bath is a beautiful, late-Eighteenth Century city. Much of the building is in Cotswold stone.
It also has a good Rugby team.
But traffic is not kind to motorists!

I lived about twelve miles away, for twenty years. And visited Bath by car about four times . . .

Reply to  griff
June 21, 2019 3:43 am

Several German families I know can’t afford foreign holidays nowadays – too much of their income goes to pay the electricity bill.

June 20, 2019 7:58 am

If the Greenies refrain from air travel, it will improve one’s vacation, in that you will not be constantly running into loopy people who think that all of us are changing the climate by breathing out.

June 20, 2019 8:03 am

I lived in Germany in the late 70s and rented a small apartment in a private home. I would (like many Americans) buy several days of food and put it in the fridge. Upon getting home from work I found the landlady had turned the fridge off saying it was a waste of energy. (Not sure what the fridge was there for.) Good Germans shopped every day. A German/American family I got to know there came back from 4 months in CA and were soon confronted by their building manager. The neighbors had monitored their laundry on the line and were upset that apparently every person used fresh undies every day. They also had listened to the water flowing in the pipes and knew they were showering every day. All of this was considered a waste of energy. However these same people would head out on vacation in their Beemers or VW Golfs (the German version that was truly hot) and fly down the autobahn at incredible speeds, fuel use be damned. Never try to interfere with the beer or the vacations.

June 20, 2019 8:27 am

Good. I am not changing my holiday plans, ever. Fill up the Silverado and go, several times every summer. Oh well, I haven’t changed my day to day lifestyle for the climate either, unless it’s raining, then I stay inside…….

June 20, 2019 8:30 am

So much for the “tourism will save us” mantra from politicians when they let industry die.

June 20, 2019 9:02 am

German Green voters fly most frequently compared to voters of other parties.

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(The question translates “I’ve flown in the last 12 months”)

Fun fact: “Climate pope” Schellnhuber advocates outlawing domestic flights and imposing high taxes on fuel such that low cost airlines would cease to exist, with the admitted goal of moving air travel into the luxury bracket once again – while he himself admits to doing 100 flights per year (this is not a typo). In interviews he openly stated that he’s disgusted by the crowds and the long waits in airports.

June 20, 2019 9:25 am

I have a relative, an American woman, who married a German man. They have two children, and live in Cologne. She is currently vacationing with her family here in CA. Oh! And did I mention she works for the UN IPCC? She does.

I can only assume she doesn’t REALLY believe the planet will cease to exist in 12 years … because of Co2 “pollution”

June 20, 2019 10:44 am

Surveys are one thing, now find a way to check actual revealed preference for long distance flights for vacations by political Party. That might highlight the extent of virtue signaling liars.

Larry Logan
June 20, 2019 10:49 am

I was in marketing in TV/Hollywood back in the 80s. The question in surveys as to ‘what channel do you watch the most’ invariably came back as “PBS.” Well, two of the letters were right.

Caligula Jones
June 20, 2019 11:31 am

Not many people noticed, but here in Toronto we had a bit of a celebration when the Raptors won the NBA championship.

Someone called “Drake” or “Dreezy” or “Corky” or something like that, who is apparently a musician (although he doesn’t seem to play an instrument or sing…) is something called a “brand ambassador” for the team.

That apparently means drinking the climate catastrophe kook-aid (sic) and being really, REALLY worried about CO2 emissions. And probably plastic and even (I’m sure) alar, killer bees and acid rain.

So, OF COURSE, he owns a ‘yuge’ private jet.

Which he flew to Las Vegas for the pre-party, party, and after-party, then flew some chose Raptors back to Toronto AND had the jet fly over the parade (only 1 shooting and four stabbings).

As Glenn Instapundit Reynolds says…I’ll believe there is a climate crisis then those who are telling me there is a climate crisis (and I have to do something), ACT like there is a climate crisis.

Richard Patton
Reply to  Caligula Jones
June 20, 2019 1:56 pm

Their true goal, which I documented in a term paper back in `95, is to reduce the earth’s population to what it was in the Roman era (200 million-with them on top of course). The insanity of their fantasy is that that few people can only support a pre-Medieval technological base. Goodbye cell phones, movies, coffee, spices, TV, air conditioning, heck even ice for your glass. And forget about prevention of Typhoid, cholera, polio, etc. They are arrogant self-centered FOOLS!

Caligula Jones
Reply to  Richard Patton
June 21, 2019 6:21 am

Yeah, most of these guys would panic if they couldn’t get a decent latte.

Funnily enough, I was just leafing through “The People’s Almanac”, the original I believe from about 1975.

One chapter had visions of “Utopia” from various celebs at the time (you haven’t lived until you read John Lennon’s one word answers…).

Dr. Benamin Spock had a great idea: less industrialization.

Never explained how, but then again, he’s a genius. They don’t have to explain nothin’…

Flight Level
June 20, 2019 2:21 pm

You have to understand how it works. Holiday destinations are eager to cash on mass-tourism and offer packages (room + good time) at extremely low wholesale prices. Actually way cheaper than even the food would be in Germany.

Which allows planes to be flown almost full house for 18 or so hours a day and be profitable even with tiny margins.

Everyone wants to escape our seemingly endless winters, we fly mostly time-lapse climate refugiees.

Airports (think: state) have very creative tax schemes (actually called financial instruments) to cash in big on the flow.

Understandably the working masses are more than happy to forget, be it for a few days, the trail of bills and spiraling cost of life, enjoy sun and taste freedom.

About all “popular” flights will applaud when landing at holiday destinations while return legs are much more quiet, say, sinister.

Reply to  Flight Level
June 21, 2019 5:08 am

Interesting informative insight

Coeur de Lion
June 20, 2019 2:42 pm

I’m going to fly more.

Richard Patton
Reply to  Coeur de Lion
June 20, 2019 3:00 pm

That depends. When I went to Cambodia several years ago the flight from Seattle to Korea, on Korean air, was nice and comfortable. From Korea to Cambodia and back I was stuck in a cramped narrow body plane with almost no amenities. If I had spent a lot more I could have had a wide body all the way. You get what you pay for I guess-but I didn’t know any better.

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