Hyberbole from the New York Post
By Ebony Bowden
June 3, 2019 | 6:29pm | Updated
A harrowing new climate change report warns we may be on the way to extinction, claiming there is a “high likelihood” human civilization will come to an end by 2050 unless action is taken on greenhouse gas emissions.
The dire paper, which predicts a biblical-like scenario of devastating floods, drought, famine and a breakdown in international order, has been endorsed by the former chief of Australia’s military.
The analysis, published May 30 by Australian think tank the Breakthrough National Centre for Climate Restoration, calls for a new approach to climate change and paints a bleak picture of the world in 30 years if nothing is done to combat greenhouse emissions.
Assuming we stay on our current trajectory, emissions will lock in a 3 degree Celsius (37 degrees Fahrenheit) global warming, setting off a disastrous chain off events which the report’s authors claim will lead to “a high likelihood of human civilization coming to an end.”
According to the report’s central “2050 scenario,” one billion people will be forced to relocate from unlivable conditions while food production will become inadequate to feed the global population.
North America will suffer from devastating weather extremes including wildfires, heatwaves and drought — while other places in the world such as the Middle East and West Africa will become unlivable.
Meanwhile, 55% of the global population would be subjected to more than 20 days a year of lethal heat conditions, “beyond the threshold of human survivability.”
And even more hyperbole from Vice if you can hold your nose to go there.
And the full policy paper here, Existential climate-related security risk: A scenario approach.
HT/Alan T
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How many climate scientists have publicly called out this ridiculous BS?
I’m aware of only one – Ryan Maue.
If they had any integrity they could put out a joint statement to the media, and kill it off.
“How many climate scientists have publicly called out this ridiculous BS?
I’m aware of only one – Ryan Maue.
If they had any integrity they could put out a joint statement to the media, and kill it off.”
That is one of the issues I have the alarmists/scientists credibility. Very few climate scientists, if any, ever call out the absurd BS
And not one of the warmists regulars have offered even a single comment.
The end of the world, apparently, isn’t worth commenting on – they’ll wait until the argument is back about all the angels dancing on a pin.
CTM,
The original article has been altered to reflect the difference between C and F
3c – 37f has been changed to…
It is amazing isn’t it? This is so clearly utter nonsense, so clearly ridiculous, yet no climate scientists put their head above the parapet and call out blatantly dishonest misuse of their discipline for political purposes.
Fraud aided by those unwilling to call out fraud.
Who wants to lose their grant money, boondoggle travel, and probably their job?
One of the 3 authors of this tosh – Ian Dunlop – is a member of the Club of Rome.
This cabal generated the most egregious propaganda about the future prospects for humanity, basically holding that the majority of us should be offed.
It was also the genesis of the UNFCCC and the IPCC.
So to expect Club of Rome – infiltrated organizations like the WMO and national Met societies to pooh pooh stuff the CoR elders put out is bound for disappointment.
Club of Rome, huh? Not surprised at all. It would be nice if we could just transport them all to Mars. I hear it’s lovely up there in the summer. Then we can just get on with our lives.
and they can discover just how much an atmosphere enriched by CO2 is really warmed by it
Post Toasty Mars with 95.32% CO2
But we have been there already. Mars´s polar cap has melted. It´s climate change in every planet. And we did it, because sun doesn´t beat human. Ask cats, they know.
Considering the CoR has an accuracy level approaching (but still nowhere close to) those of National Enquirer psychics…stay tuned to the inevitable NetFlix 300-part mini-series narrated by [insert name of celebrity here]…
Granted, the Club of Rome are in the alarmist category, they do have a good point, standing by the notion that infinite growth cannot and will not continue indefinitely. This is something we do need to understand and address. I am not suggesting that we go all Thanos on the planet, wiping half the population out, but serious consideration needs to be had with regard to our natural resources.
What infinite growth?
Everywhere I look, growth is happening because we are able to [do] more with less.
lol. Are you serious? There are limited resources. The planet can’t keep sustaining greater numbers of people. That is not the way it works. Simple science tells you this. Technology won’t save us. It will only delay the inevitable demise of the human race…But to be clear that “inevitable demise” is not going to happen in 2050 (unless we blow ourselves up).
Icarus: “There are limited resources. The planet can’t keep sustaining greater numbers of people.”
This is a straw man argument based on hyperbole. No one is suggesting that resources are unlimited. But no one knows how much resources are in the planet. No one can say that there are not sufficient reserves to sustain growth for 100 years, 1000 years, 10,000 years or ten million years.
The planet can sustain greater numbers of people without resources necessarily being ‘unlimited’.
Human innovation is pretty much infinite. It has lead to more efficient use of our resources creating more abundance of everything. Malthus and you are wrong about this. When quantum computing comes online innovation will explode.
They would be too scared for their careers, resulting in nobody in authority to challenge this ridiculous nonsense, which then becomes the latest group think passed on by ‘scientists’, journalists, politicians, teachers and in social media (especially by young people – what young person would want to be ridiculed by their peers and ostracised on social media).
No wonder young people are growing up so depressed; instead of looking forward to the life ahead of them they are constantly being told they have no future; it’s so bad that many are even contemplating suicide.
It’s similar to medieval religions telling people that floods, droughts, famine, pestilence, illness or disability would befall them and the fault will be their own for sinning, anyone disagreeing would be flogged.
“3 degrees Celsius (37 degrees F)” ???
I don’t think so.
I jusr re-read the article
O M G…what a hoot
must follow the same basic math principles as the Climate Change Scientists’ “Global Climate Models”
Looks like they fixed the original article (though not before many “Concerned Citizens” (aka useful idiots) were able to see the “3 degrees Celcius (37 degrees F)” fear mongering statement
blockquote>Assuming we stay on our current trajectory, emissions will lock in a 3 degree Celsius (5.4 degrees Fahrenheit) global warming, setting off a disastrous chain off events which the report’s authors claim will lead to “a high likelihood of human civilization coming to an end.”
Joe: Someone mis-applied the temperature conversion formula: Calculate the Fahrenheit temperature: Multiply the Celsius Temp by 1.8 and add 32. Result is 37.4.
I think we would be all dead long before 2050 if the greens and the UN had their way.
Death by starvation and economic collapse because of the lack of oil, fuel and other essential energy sources as well as economic “growth” promised through the so called green economy.
Cheers
Roger
http://www.rogerfromnewzealand.wordpress.com
They never seem to tell you that the “cure” they are proposing is much worse than the supposed “disease”.
These Club of Rome folks are hell bent (quite likely literally) on destroying modern civilisation with the idea that they will be the new God Kings, ruling over the scurrying remnants of society. If they have their way, it will lead to the death of billions of people. It’s hard to imagine the mind set of someone who would set out to kill on such a scale.
It is hard to believe, but even as far back as `95 they were saying that the optimum human population was 200 million. Of course they were going to be part of that 200 million.
Soylent green is people, man!
pol pot idi amin spring to mind
the mindset of the CoR are?…… simply pschycopaths
Yes! + Lenin, Stalin, Mao and Hitler are their heroes.
I take it that you people are so much in denial about global warming that no amount of scientific evidence will convince you it’s happening. You can just trot towards the cliff edge uttering ‘fake news’ and other idiotic epithets every so often. You are as close to being totally irrational as any group of people on any forum I have come across…:-(
Real reason to scepticism is lack of evidence.
There is no evidence that CO2 is the cause of warming. And it can´t be because CO2 is result of warming. Warm first, then result. You science denier can not change causality.
There is no evidence that CO2 is dangerous. Nature is showing us the opposite. All life on this planet loves CO2. And that is a fact.
You have no evidence at all. If you have, we would know it already.
You are science denier, and because of that you are idiot. If you want to make this planet better place, go to the cliff and try to fly.
And you are calling us irrational! Wake up!
Steppenwolf: Yes, we luke-warmists are in the 97% who agree global warming IS happening. But it’s not a problem, and most likely net beneficial in the short run. Disaster will not come by 2050, the 21st and a half century. If global warming continues indefinitely, it may indeed become a significant problem in the 24th and a half century. I advocate leaving that problem for future generations to solve.
you are not walking through a Zoo . . . . . YOU are the exhibit.
“Steppenwolf” (the band) was awesome. “Steppenwolf” (the troll), not so much.
According to the NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, Sciences and Exploration Directorate, Earth Sciences Division, GISS Surface Temperature Analysis –
Station Data: Annual Mean Temperatures (C) for
Godthab Nuuk (Greenland )(64.17N, 51.75W)
Station ID:431042500000, this southern most weather station has seen temperatures above zero degrees centigrade once in the last 139 (as far back as records go).
I’d like to see a detailed thermodynamic analysis including latent heat of fusion for the changes they predict along with a quantification of the effects of various proposed tactics to prevent the predicted scenarios.
We all gonna die!!! I’ve been seeing that for the past 50 odd years, and the various disaster scenarios have all failed.
At least preachers like Harold Camping eventually shut up after multiple failures. The audience for the greens seems less critical.
I think it is time that organisations like this were Sued for Damages on behalf of children who live in fear as a direct consequence of the deliberate manipulation and misinformation now constantly being thrown at them.
Perhaps some Australian parents could start crowd-funding to commence an action.
And most likely, in less than 50 more years you probably will reach your personal “best if used by” date.
“by Australian think tank”. Not sure what “thinking” is happening with these people, but it’s certainly not about climate. Take your pick from:
“continued Gravy Train of funding”
“Wouldn’t global socialism be great”
“pass more kool aid”
I think that they really should put windows on the next generation of think tanks.
It is named “…Climate Breakthrough.” What would you expect them to write?
Thinking is dangerous.
The ancient Egyptians worshiped Horus whose power is observation. A lot of observation and a little logic can produce wonders. A lot of logic and not much observation just produces GIGO.
Hysteria is getting a bit boring these days. Fortunately the ACTUAL climate doesn’t take any notice and plugs on regardless.
‘Actual’. Now there’s a strange concept evidently rattling around without a patron in this “think tank”. Nonetheless let’s see if I’ve got all this straight:
In the broader perspective of an agreeable gradual ascent from the preceding considerably colder climate of several preceding centuries (dubbed the ‘little ice age’), the two significant elevations of global average temperature in the 20th century (within the first half and again toward its conclusion) had notably similar rates of change. However, it turns out that these elevations were likewise agreeably largely confined to colder high latitudes of the northern hemisphere, with little change at all in equatorial and hot subtropical regions of the globe. And furthermore, deconstruction of those averages into the constituent actually measured high and low daily temperatures discloses that it was largely elevations in the lows (rather than the highs) that were transferred into those changed consolidated averages.
Now so far in the present century overall we’ve had a comparative respite from much further temperature elevation, resembling the mid-20th century one that separated those former elevations. All the while atmospheric CO2 has been increasing and has been declared responsible for this ‘frightful’ situation, though in the much longer ice core historic record it has consistently followed and not led indicators of temperature rises.
And now this think tank, as well as the likes of a former barmaid who aspires to the highest office of this land (and as a trained mixologist must have a fine sense of both proportion and change — having made change for many a $20 bill), urge us to upend all that has brought us a historically unheard-of prosperity and personal freedoms to install their favored burdensome remedy to head off a speculative imminent disintegration by adopting an assured one of their own making instead. R I G H T !!
‘ACTUAL’ Now there’s a term rattling around loosely in that “think tank” without a patron. Nonetheless, let’s see if I’ve got all this straight:
In broad overview, we are rather agreeably gradually ascending from several considerably colder earlier centuries (dubbed the ‘little ice age’) and during the monitored 20th century there was a significant elevation in global average temperature within its first half and again toward its conclusion (both with notably similar rates of increase despite higher atmospheric CO2 levels accompanying the latter). But more specifically both these increases were also rather agreeably localized to the colder latitudes of the northern hemisphere rather than in either equatorial or hot subtropical climes. And what is indeed so much more, deconstructing those average temperatures to their constituent actually measured daily high and low temperatures discloses that it was largely elevation of the nightly lows that transferred to those averages rather than any significant elevation of the daily highs as is so regularly suggested in trembling tones implying soaring heat. Oh my, that’s different.
Now in our current century, there has been a relative respite from average global temperature advance (quite contrary to nearly all computer models claiming to be previewing our future) that resembles the period between the two aforementioned 20th century rises. But all this while the atmospheric CO2 has continued to steadily rise and has been widely credited for any recent temperature rises, despite the thus unexplained recurring halts in the latter, as well as the historical glacial ice core evidence that their chronology is the wrong way around for that causative agency over what is the very opposite — that temperature change has systematically preceded a corresponding CO2 change. Oh, that’s different too! Never mind.
Lately we have been subjected to the likes of this “think tank” report, as well as the authoritative pronouncements of a former barmaid with her own designs on the presidency of our land. But then who wouldn’t give a trained mixologist the benefit of the doubt given she would have such a fine sense of proportions and the making of change (for a $20 bill for a start). And how many distinguished climatologists have pointed out what I have in short above to lend their fellow citizens some perspective among all the assertions that we must immediately embrace some speculative remedy to fend off a coming disintegration by upending our life of personal freedoms and prosperity in exchange for the truly burdensome disintegration of their own making? America wants to know.
Lmao climate doesn’t take notice and plugs on anyways? Sure if you want to say that Pakistan reaching higher unliveable temperature, Australian animals dying because of the heat and Canada warming 2x faster than other countries in the world as the “climate not taking notice and Plugging on”. Give me a break! can all of you C02 and climate change deniers go to a different planet and destroy that one instead ?
Can all you uncritical thinking trolls go back under your bridges and shut the hell up?
“Assuming we stay on our current trajectory, emissions will lock in a 3 degree Celsius (37 degrees Fahrenheit) global warming” !!
Slight conversion error..?
I was beginning to think I was the only one to spot this howler. It’s patently evident — and this is not the first time I’ve seen this particular mistake in print — that journalists as well, no doubt, as politicians and even some scientists whose discipline does not directly involve temperatures do not have a clue what they are talking about.
The other “beaut” is telling us that today is “twice as warm as yesterday” when the temperature goes from 5° to 10°. When you tell them that only applies in Celsius they don’t understand and think you’re a fool. (Which you are for wasting your time tangling with them!)
I think you meant to say “that only applies in Kelvin.”
Oh bummer the literacy. I’ll go, cry now.
I once corrected a Ufologist (bit of a hobby) who made the same type of error.
She was incredibly gracious and I kinda felt bad, but at least she corrected the error. Or, at least that one…
Unfortunately, as we all know here, warmists aren’t as forgiving when you point this stuff out. Good luck.
A 3 degree rise is a 37 Fahrenheit rise? Panic! Panic now!
I typo? More likely that the author merely typed in 3 °C into a conversion app and it spit out 37.4 °F.
Sloppy, but what else can you expect from ignorance and innumeracy?
That was my guess, too. The scary part is thinking about how many of those reading the article take that 3C = 37F as true.
The original article has been repaired (changed)
Ha yes! Of course that’s what they did! Just shows the level of scientific understanding of these people.
Yes, just try reading it on a thermometer instead of trying to “math” it out. Works better.
Everyone knows that to change from Celsius to Fahrenheit you multiply by 1.8 and add 32! So 3C = 5+32 =37F. QED! Climate Science at its best.
I saw that too. 🙂 These crackpots can’t even do basic arithmetic.
The gross error is that a temperature of 3 C is equal to a temperature of 37.4 F.
But 3 degrees of rise in C is equal to 5.4 degrees of rise in F.
Yes the idiots put 3°C into a conversion ‘bot and it spit back 37.4°F! That’s if you are talking about outside temperature or the like. But what they meant was 3°C *temperature change* which is 5.4°F. Jeesh, when you don’t get the small things right, how can we trust you got the big things right?
The pessimism is so absurd, that I wonder if they realize it is not going to happen?
It was around 1 1/2C- 2C warmer early in the Holocene, yet they don’t even talk about that time frame, as if they know nothing bad happened then.
It is all about money and power, the usual aims of a small number of out of date alpha males.
Have these charlatans considered what they are going to do when it doesn’t happen? Many of these activist journalists, or more accurately described as propagandists, are quite young and have quite a few years where they will need to provide for themselves after their involvement is exposed. I wonder who would employ such a person besides the advertisement industry where truth is regulated?
What will they do in 20 to 30 years when their predictions don’t come true?
Why, they’ll double down of course. After all, it’s worked so far for the Peak Oilers, the Population Bombers, and all other breeds of Malthusians, hasn’t it?
~¿~
Earlier predictions, by Gore et al, haven’t come true, but that hasn’t stopped them. “Shock, horror, evil, disaster” sells newspapers, but “Nothing to see here” doesn’t.
They will be retired by then on a nice, fat pension. So why would they care?
Sunset, yes there is definitely a worry that nothing bad is going to happen. The real worry among the extremists is that the world’s leaders are after all going to do nothing anyway and they want policy, even stupid ineffectual policy (like the Parisite Accord) put in place so they can take credit for nothing bad happening.
They are bankrupt and throwing everything into it because the nothing bad happening is the end of malthusian misanthropy and the opportunity for a néomarxiste globalgov. A “Garden of Eden^тм” prosperity for the peak 9B people, probably even drifting back down to 8B as prosperity and plenty firmly establishes itself.
The more the scam falls apart, the more desperate they become.
Sounds like the Report of the Club of Rome 40 years ago or Paul Ehrlich another 40 years ago or or or or
Should I be afraid? Luckily I have already survived several of those tipping points and crisis
We simply cannot ditch our carbon based standard of living – Carbon supplies 84% of our energy needs that drives our civilization.
Renewables simply won’t make a dent, decarbonisation of the world economy by 2050 will certainly leave us in the dark, cold, hungry, filthy – back to the sort of lifestyle where half your children died before puberty.
Then yes, civilization as we know it will end – brutally.
Its the loonie greenies and thermogeddonists that truly frighten me.
If they get their way (and they will always demand more and more in any case) we will face a very dismal future indeed.
Extinction rebellion is aiming in the wrong direction.
The glaciers are going to disappear, our kids won’t know what snow is, the oceans are going to be twenty feet higher, etc etc etc. We can add one more to the list
I look at UAH monthly chart, then at these hysterical claims. There is no correspondence between reality and the dystopian fantasy.
The chart shows an increase of 0.13 degrees C per decade since 1980. If that continues, 2050 will be around 0.4 degrees C higher.
I am really curious if there is a correlation between galactic cosmic rays and climate such that the reduced solar magnetic field leads to enhanced cooling. These next two solar cycles will tell the tale and at least have some falsifiable claim that can be tested.
But it doesn’t really. It shows huge variation that if you ignore all the variation shows a “trend”. And that’s before we discuss obviously natural warming such as El Ninos. I look at that chart and think that the idea you can somehow pick out what is man-made CO2 and what is natural from that data is a joke. I don’t think most people would recognsie that chart, becaue that’s not what they are told is happening.
I don’t know if it’s true, xenomoly, but these cosmic rays from Outer Space are probably making me sneeze and making my nose run. I’m going to fix myself an aluminum foil hat (much better than tinfoil) and one for each of my cats and wear them until the cosmic rays are all gone away.
Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming is the prophecy of a progressive process. However, what is the certainty that climate change is monotonically divergent?
It’s the year internet, yet so much ignorance in a sea of freely available information. It was back in ~1978 that The Dead Kennedys wrote “Holiday in Cambodia” to mock these space cadets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KTsXHXMkJA
They are wilfully oblivious to just how bad living conditions already are for much of the world’s poor. It is the cheap energy of fossil fuels that provides some hope others might escape their current poverty.
While 3 degrees centigrade = 37 degrees farenheit, a 3 degree rise is 5.4 degree rise farenheit.
The bigger math error is if CO2 is increasing by 1.5 rpm per year it would take 270 years to double. Therefore they are computing climate sensitivity of about 25 degrees Celsius for a doubling of CO2
1.5 rpm?
I’ve heard that the climate moves in cycles, but I never knew that CO2 did as well.
It is very trendy to preach gloom and doom these days, very fashionable, very virtue signalling…but the writers use fossil fuels every day.
It’s getting ridiculous now !
And serious. How many easily misled people are going to get depression, or worse, due to this continuous propaganda?
One of these days we are going to get a Climate Jonestown. The only question left is will it be quick, by drinking the Kool-aid in a literal sense, or will it be slow, by the power going out for a week in the middle of winter.
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I (unfortunately) have the same thought and posted something similar recently.
While I hope nobody gets hurt, I’d rather one of those old hippies go before one of the deluded teens. At least they might be able to be saved.
If not, this current teen sensation will either become a bitter old woman still clinging to a desperate narrative in a bid for relevancy, an old true believer hippy, or if there is a miracle, a well-adjusted person who can laugh at youthful indiscretion.
Out an abundance of caution NY and CA need to be closed down.
Good point. The NY and CA populations can be moved to the Yukon or Siberian tropical paradises, where CAGW will have its most beneficial effect, and there is plenty of room. Move now, before the best real estate is taken.
H.R.: I would prefer buying an Aleutian island, planting palm trees on the beach, and hiring Trump to build a resort hotel, since all the tropical resorts like Miami and Hawaii will have to be moved to much higher latitudes.
Science fiction. Nothing more.
These guys propose no specific mechanism by which all this stuff will happen, even if the three degrees of warming in just 30 years – vastly beyond what any of the false models predict – were to occur.
Hey, if it gets so hot that it becomes “lethal” – ever meet anyone who lives in southern Arizona, south Texas, or anywhere in the Middle East or in Saharan Africa, which have experienced such “lethal” summer temps for millenia? – well, then the answer is, burn more fossil fuels, ramp up the AC, and ride it out … just like people are doing today.
SMH … this is worse than science fiction … it’s climate porn.
I think you need to read more Science Fiction, Duane, as I am not sure you can currently tell the difference.
I think you will find after a pleasant amount of study that one is well written, well researched, and able to sustain probing questions related to their core premise, and the other is a Climate Change(tm) report.
And next up we have Cooking with Cheryl. I’m sure you won’t want to miss that.
A 3 degree Celsius temperature rise relates to approximately a 5 degree Fahrenheit rise not 37 . The confusion seems to be that 3 degrees Celsius is approximately 37 degrees Fahreheit.
I don’t get how this is supposed to work. Is it on a certain day in 2050 that civilization comes to an end or is it gradual so some day soon we will actally see civilization beginning to end?
I believe the prediction is for April 1st, 2050, Arbeegee.
At 2.17pm.
I suspect 4:20 pm might be more appropriate for this group. These predictions sound like the result of smoking something.
So, in order to save human civilization from a climate optimum which largely contrubuted to human development, those ridiculous psychopaths want to destroy it as soon as possible.
This is pure insanity.
So? Space monsters could end human civilization by 2040. Space monsters win.