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Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Extinction Rebellion appears to be retreating in the face of growing pressure to stop disrupting the lives of ordinary people, though they call the retreat “a new phase of rebellion” .
Humanity is at a crossroads, Greta Thunberg tells Extinction Rebellion
Swedish climate activist’s speech comes amid police action to clear protesters from Waterloo Bridge
Vikram Dodd , Damien Gayle and Mattha Busby
Mon 22 Apr 2019 05.35 AEST…
Governments will no longer be able ignore the impending climate and ecological crisis, Greta Thunberg, the teenage climate activist, has told Extinction Rebellion protesters gathered at Marble Arch in London.
In a speech on Sunday night where she took aim at politicians who have for too long been able to satisfy demands for action with “beautiful words and promises”, the Swedish 16-year-old said humanity was sitting at a crossroads, but that those gathered had chosen which path they wish to take.
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The London mayor, Sadiq Khan, said the disruption was “counter-productive” to the cause of climate change and was stretching resources so much it could damage police’s ability to fight violent crime.
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“I’m extremely concerned about the impact the protests are having on our ability to tackle issues like violent crime if they continue any longer. It simply isn’t right to put Londoners’ safety at risk like this.”
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Extinction Rebellion is discussing withdrawing from some sites in return for being allowed to remain in others and having its demands met.
One manifesto from Farhana Yamin, an international environmental lawyer, advocated a “pause” in disruption next week to better project their demands and press for negotiations with government.She wrote: “Today marks a transition from week one, which focused on actions that were vision-holding but also caused mass ‘disruption’ across many dimensions (economic, cultural, emotional, social). Week two marks a new phase of rebellion focused on ‘negotiations’ where the focus will shift to our actual political demands.”
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Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/apr/21/extinction-rebellion-london-protesters-offer-pause-climate-action
Has Extinction Rebellion run out of puff? Did they fall for “beautiful promises” that politicians will now listen to their demands? Or is the lure of Britain’s deliciously warm beach weather weekend too much even for the most committed global warming activists? Time will tell.
“One manifesto from Farhana Yamin, an international environmental lawyer, advocated a “pause” in disruption next week to better project their demands and press for negotiations with government.”
Why do they think they have the right to “negotiate with government”?
They say they have “tried everything”, but what they haven’t tried is forming a party and getting elected to get a democratic mandate to negotiate.
Some way should be found to make them pay for all of the disruption they have caused.
When you know that you are saving the World, democracy is just an obstacle to be ignored
Time to stand accross the street from these tiny protests, point fingers, and laugh hysterically at their idiotic attempts.
This is a rather transparent attempt to spin defeat as being change of strategy.
It is like US pulling out of Iraq or Afghanistan or Vietnam and calling it a “draw down” to save face.
Their “rebellion” is now extinct. They have been physically removed. This is like being defeated in battle and saying “OK, let’s talk. ”
Having been removed , they are pretending that they have something to “negotiate” with govt.
Having a naive, ill-informed schoolgirl as your international figurehead says a lot.
Well stated, Greg!
Ex-rebellion is following a classic marketing ploy often used after face-plants; declare success, throw a celebration party and move on pretending nothing untoward happened.
Managers and VPs involved in the disastrous project will get reassignment promotions and life moves
forward, somewhere.I must say, nude glued to vehicles face-plants is a new one to me. I shudder to think what these non-geniuses will attempt next.
“It is like US pulling out of Iraq or Afghanistan or Vietnam and calling it a “draw down” to save face.”
That kind of gives the impression that the U.S. military needed to save face. Politicians initiate drawdowns, for various reasons. The U.S. military defeats the enemy, then the politicians get involved and there’s no telling what will happen then.
The important part to remember is the U.S. military defeats its enemies on the battlefield, whether it is South Vietnam, or Iraq or Afghanistan. What happens after that isn’t up to the military to decide.
We wouldn’t want to give those mad dictators out there in the world the impression that American troops were pushovers. That might cause a lot of innocent people to die if said dictators were to miscalculate based on that false information. They will eventually learn their lesson but why give them the idea in the first place.
Sometimes people disparage the military because they think they are discouraging war by portraying the military as incapble. That’s what the U.S. Leftwing News Media did in South Vietnam. They were all the time claiming the North Vietnamese were “the toughest soldiers in the world!” Well, those toughest soldiers in the world met their match going up against the American military. So who is really the toughest soldiers in the world? I know who.
The Israelis?
Funny, I’m sure I saw film of Americans being helicoptered out of Saigon, as the North Vietnamese overran it.
One for one, in the jungle, I know who I’d have put my money on.
“Funny, I’m sure I saw film of Americans being helicoptered out of Saigon, as the North Vietnamese overran it.”
You saw Embassy guards being evacuated. American combat troops had gone home about two years earlier in October 1973, after the Paris Peace Deal was signed. The North Vietnamese overran Saigon in 1975 after U.S. liberal appeasers (think Ted Kennedy) refused to come to South Vietnam’s aid even though they were legally and morally obligated to do so.
Nowadays we know we can’t trust the word of liberals but back then the South Vietnamese didn’t know that until they found out the hard way. Millions of South Vietnamese were killed and displaced as a result of the liberal appeaser treachery.
I threw all my medals in the trash that day. My father retrieved them before they were thrown away.
Tom Abbot. Thanks. Whenever ignoramuses spout about the US having lost the Vietnam War, I point out that the US negotiated a peace treaty that encompassed its war aims of standing up the South Vietnamese government and ending the invasion. The North waited until the US had withdrawn all of its personnel and then violated the peace treaty by an open and frank invasion of South Vietnam. The refusal of the Democrats in the Congress to authorize aid to South Vietnam is one of the most shameful chapters in the history of that nest of treasonous vipers. The Democrat party has the blood of millions of south-east Asians on its hands.
The US had won in all three of those cases, so draw down’s were appropriate.
It’s not the fault of the military that politicians proceeded to throw away the victories that the military had won.
Climate hysteria has FAILed. Despite hysterical hyperbole … the sky has not fallen. Despite my local leftist broadcast news station that colors their weather maps HYSTERICAL BRIGHT RED for temperatures in the 80’s F. Huh? Most NORMAL HUMANS experience temp’s in the 80’s as Hawaiian-Island comfortable … desirable. But NOT according to the echo-chamber of Climate Change oversell. Nope. Temps in the 80’s are SCARY RED !!!!! Run !!! Shelter in place !!! it’s gonna be 84 deg. with 30% humidity!!!! We’re all gonna DIEEEEEEEEEE in the … RED ZONE
Give it a rest you Communist crackpots
“a “pause” in disruption next week to better project their demands and press for negotiations with government.””
That is a sure sign of defeat. They try to put a bold face on their failure. Had they been victorious, they would never have talked about negotiation. That is the talk of the losing side.
To borrow a line from a classic 1960s Doctor Who Episode:
YouThey makeyourtheir incompetence sound like an achievementThe photo says it all. If it had been an Australian paper or TV station, it would have focused tightly in on the trouble-makers to conceal that there is only a handful of protesters.
I can count 15 people. Not bad compared to the London population.
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XR-PR Dept.BBC presents itself quite differently depending on where you are….That’s not “theorising” – a quick look at the pages served up to archive.org in the USA vs. the UK regularly proves that beyond any doubt. They’ve certainly got the hots for lille Greta who figures randomly in the lists of “most popular” and “most viewed” and gets different levels of promotion *simultaneously* to two audiences – which is the “real BBC” I wonder?
The change in emphasis follows on from unequivocal public resistance to XR’s antics. The professional agitators behind the operation are paying attention – veteran campaigners that they are….
“she took aim at politicians who have for too long been able to satisfy demands for action with “beautiful words and promises”
Some should tap poor little Greta on the shoulder and tell her that the multi-hundred billion dollar industry has been designed to be just that. Actually reducing CO2 levels in the atmosphere, not so much.
This is the “CROSSROADS” that human beings need to be concentrating on:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtLhPeLB9bA
At 76 I can still cut a rug!!!
Dear Extinction Rebellion true believer, maybe you’re correct, maybe this is the best there is and all you have to look forward too is the gloom of doom and even more depressing doom. So whether you’re 3 or 30 years old, this is it. You future is all downhill from now on!
You can not fight it, you’re done for. And you should blame people like me who, despite some of us being in real poverty, enjoyed those unsustainable halcyon days of the mostly cool and wet 1960s, the freezing 1970s with its coming ice-age, the petrol crises, the fear of nuclear annihilation and nuclear winters, the late 1980 warm-up, etc., all enjoyed by burning fossil fuels in huge vehicles.
Yes we old white types are to blame for it all with our extreme profligacy from so many of us working long hours in difficult dangerous jobs, all-the-while willfully polluting.
Our ways that have ensured your kind will be thrust into a future of mass extinction, starvation and poverty, with little more than modern affordable fashionable clothing, modern medicine, over abundance of food, mass personal communication, affordable mass and individual transportation systems that take you to heated and/or cooled air-conditioned building, and to vacations just about anywhere on the planet, lives filled with so much instant gratification at the touch of a button, etc., etc. And the vast majority of it manufactured from man-made substances, transported by fossil fueled vehicle that’s take decades of effort by so many. Efforts designed to ensure you’re left with such a miserable view of the future.
I know you believe I should feel guilty for all I’ve done but no, I do not, and I will never feel so. You deserve it all and so much more!
So for now live with it, and when you survive to old age (however you define that), recall all the actions you’ve done that has really made a difference, that has made the world a better place.
Until then, just remember you’ve already seen the best there can ever be — from now on it’ll get rapidly worse for you ungrateful Extinction Rebellion ignoramuses.
Why do you all believe you deserve so much more (?) because I don’t believe it!
Well said tom0mason.
The monster has been created by Governments and celebrities. Now it must be destroyed. None of this is, by any measure, democratic. Maybe hundreds or even thousands show up to protest, but millions stay away.
Stop the nonsense now.
The UK government has been quite happy to allow this disruption to occur with minimal police intervention because the protesters are lobbying the government to push the green agenda forward – an agenda that the government are already pursuing enthusiastically. Contrast the policing of this event with the way that protests against government policy are dealt with.
Note that one of the principal figures involved is Farhana Yamin.
She is “an associate Fellow at Chatham House (!!!) which lists her as:- “An internationally recognised environmental lawyer, climate change and development policy expert, Farhana has advised leaders and countries for 20 years. … She is lead author for three assessment reports for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change on adaptation and mitigation”. She was also an adviser to Connie Hedegaard, the EU’s Environment Commissioner, not to mention spending 20 years with the UNFCC. and helped draft the 2015 Paris Climate Agreement.
It was she who glued herself to Shell’s HQ in London.
Even the FT now seems to be in on the act – https://www.ft.com/content/6b044d08-61cb-11e9-9300-0becfc937c37
Is The Establishment now moving to the streets?
In Australia, protests must not block roads or impede pedestrian thoroughfare unless the rally is a march along a designated path at a designated time. This is a tiny rally considering the size of London. In terms of population, this is like a rally of 3 people in Sydney. Such a microscopic minority view has no place dictating terms to Government and the 99.9999 % of us who do not see things the way their thimble-sized brainwashed brains do.
Pointing fingers, ridiculing, and laughing at are often the best way to deal with these Climate Flashers
Or regular Trench Coat Flashers also
And no I didn’t forget these CROSSROADS:
Ginger Baker, Jack Bruce and Eric Clapton ROCK !!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtLhPeLB9bA
Wore out a set KOSS head phones listing to CREAM.
Correction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX6J5-13c-0
OLD AGE —–Jack and Ginger RIP
Whooaaah ….Once saw Cream live back in …68? I was just bashing out Crossroads on my Strat. Genuine Strat. Couldn’t afford one back then. Probably shouldn’t have bought one these days. I can resist anything except temptation. One of those guitars that somehow seems to play itself.
“Probably shouldn’t have bought one” ….. Wrong Martin! You should have and did buy one, now get out the old vinyl, crank it up to 11, and play along
Extinction Rebellion, trying to stop climate change or whatever, were arrested on Waterloo Bridge. The River Thames normally froze over during the 18th centurary, from London Bride upriver (London Bridge was the normal limit of up-river salty ocean water at high tide). Above London Bridge Londoners regularly held Frost Fairs on the frozen river. Waterloo Bridge is upstream from London Bridge, just below Westminster Bridge, so Extinction Rebellion could have looked off the bridge at ice while they were being arrested if they were around in the 18th centurary. I wonder if the irony of their idea, basically to return to Frost Fairs, occurred to them, as they were being arrested? Does Climate Change? Sure looks like it!
You will of course note that £5Bn is proposed to refurbish the Palace of Westminster. Judging by the comments from contractors the amount is likely to be at least double that.
However, the Palace is a mere feet above the river Thames when the tide in the English Channel rises.
Clearly politicians, engineers and construction companies don’t pay the least attention to climate change or they would recommend the money be better spent building a new building on higher ground, like at the peak of Ben Nevis!
I have said this before, thy should be challenged to prove that their
way of life is practical. We here in Australia have plenty of islands with
no one living on them. So lets have a real time “Reality show” with cameras
to film then coping with the simple life style that thy say is what the rest of
us should be living.
It would be very good TV, and the TV network can give them the basics
of life, army rations sufficient till their crops can mature. And spades to
use. A few buckets till they wear out.
Of course it will never happen, they are such important people and they are
all needed to spread their message.
MJE VK5ELL
Thanks Michael, on behalf of the UK I can confirm that we are happy to resume transporting our criminals to Australia, and the criminally gullible seems a good place to start. Please be sure to select an island that is surrounded by great whites in case any of them decide to swim for it, and don’t bother making a reality show, we’re really not that interested in what happens to them.
Error in my maths-it is the equivalent of 5 people in Sydney. Still, the error is nothing like the 8 minute charge time of an electric car that Shorten came out with. He was out by a factor of 5. His error is the equivalent of just 1 person(the organiser) turning up to a rally. Do remember, conservatives tend to actually hold jobs, so could be forgiven for shirking daytime weekday rallies. “Climate activists” on the other hand tend to not contribute much to society, so have plenty of time and usually have the funding too to attend such rallies.
The unglued progressive masses could not afford to become even more “unglued”
Scurrying about during their short, pointless, lives.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkegDMwDo7k
Rain is forecast for Wednesday, let’s hope for a sizeable downpour and see how resilient they are.
They should be grateful they are not France where the police spray pepper spray into protestors faces from close range.
dennisambler
That is because, in France, the “police” are defending the “government” that is taxing and tormenting the protesters – who are working class taxpayers. Here, in these protests in London, the government AGREES WITH and SUPPORTS (with their actions) these (liberal socailist) pro-government extremists and academical protesters AGAINST the working taxpayers and businesses.
It’s true that these young people don’t have a future, but it’s not because of climate; it’s because leftist education/culture has damaged their minds. They’re protesting against the wrong people.
Actually, they’re protesting THE WEATHER. Peak human stupid!
That’s probably an exaggeration.
You have to have a simple message that the public cares about. For instance, the teachers aren’t striking for more money, they’re striking to protect our kids’ education.
The real reasons the police want to stop the demonstrations are more complicated and harder to communicate. The trouble with their simple message is that the public may see it as bull crap.
if only one of the loopfruits with a knife was handy to shred some signs;-) bet theyd vanish fast;-)))
Wow, after one whole week, they’re already onto “phase two” – “negotiations”. Hilarious. I wonder what phase week three will bring? The tantrum phase?
Grow up children and get a real job.
The people who have force fed ‘our’ Greta with this scare stories are guilty of some serious abuse.
The cult of CAGW and their political hacks have become angry children who spread green anarchy.
This parody of OCC is funny.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1118873752031285248
Meanwhile back in the real world.
Death By China: How America Lost Its Manufacturing Base (Official Version)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMlmjXtnIXI
http://www.eenews.net/stories/1060011478
wonder how gretas going to handle being a nonentity pretty soon?
Im amazed the didnt have people laughing n pointing at em for being loonies- I would have been having a ball stirring em
By the time she gets to be a non entity, family Thunberg will have made skads of cash. And no doubt little Greta, like Mr Hogg in the US before her, will have been admitted to Sweden’s most prestigious seat of learning.
I’d suspect they’ll be well placed to endure the lack of publicity 🙂
Regarding the picture above, it’s a really dumb idea to stand in front of cars. Doesn’t go over very well in the US.
The ISIS climate caliphate was not working.
I see they are being addressed today by young Greta Thunberg, who Wiki tells me suffers from, amongst other things, Selective Mutism. Sounds like a good pseudo medical reason for not having to answer questions from troublesome sceptics ?
Also interesting is this link from the Swedish version of The Local, https://www.thelocal.se/20190209/start-up-used-child-climate-activist-to-raise-millions
I’d never considered The Local to be an alt right sounding board, but hey, others may know more.
So basically what we have with ER and its personalities, is probably a very few well meaning idiots, backed up by some canny folk who are looking to make shed loads of money. It also explains what appears to be the social profile of the folk we see at all the protests. if one is embarking on hucksterism, then it makes sense to target those who may have a little money of which they can be relieved, and who may feel that paying will act as a salve. The Church got away with that one for centuries, so its a tried and tested method.
Its also apparent that ‘Social Media’ is being used to target those gullible enough to fall for the disaster is imminent meme. So it seems that Cambridge Analytica and the Brexit gag, were not the only ones who recognised the potential that Futzbook offered in order to fleece 🙂
“But that those gathered had chosen which path they wish to take”
I think we can guess this “path” will still include all the benefits of modern (fossil fuel powered) technology. Particularly the internet, social media and smart phones which have allowed them to organise their pointless protests…
Follow the money, and you find the drivers of these activities, PR and money printing at it’s best.
They disrupt public function? Lock them up. They do it again? Lock them up longer. Rinse, repeat. Eventually they just stay in jail where they can discuss their “radical agenda” with other inmates.
This is NOT rocket science.
Retreating? If it’s really such a catastrophe they should be expanding their demonstrations. The future of Mother Earth is at stake but apparently these people don’t care. Funny how it all works.
I’ll believe politicians, environmentalists and precocious self-indulgent school kids can control the climate when they explain how they will modify the sun’s behavior, control the motion of the planets and our universe, regulate space weather, master the ocean cycles and wind currents, direct the movement of the continents, prevent volcanism, and create a reliable schedule for magnetic fields and their various reversals and realignments. It also might add to my confidence in their dire predictions if they could just once predict something substantial that actually happens.
the Swedish 16-year-old
Probably didn’t write a word of what she said, she’s the marionette.
The Real UK Nowadays: Eviction –
https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-samsung&ei=a9y9XJrRJoWtrgTbxa3gAg&q=tv+documentary+series+eviction+&oq=tv+documentary+series+eviction+&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-serp.
And this is relevant how?
Think of our Posterity. Pro-Duck Dynasties. Pro-Life, before replacement, right?
I’m extremely concerned about the impact the protests are having on our ability to tackle issues like violent crime if they continue any longer
Eh? I thought you were supposed to have solved the issue of violent crime when you banned knives.
And what are the “ demands” to be made of government by Extinction Rebellion and Greta?
What ambit claims are we looking at?
The only mention in the press that I have seen is Declaration of a Climate Emergency and cessation of all use of fossil fuel energy by 2025.
Let the negotiations begin! (sarc.)
What expertise does that 16 year old Swedish girl possess? Joan of Arc she ain’t. Is it a case of the blind leading the blind?
These Extinction Rebellion oiks should be rounded up and put in the stocks so everyone can come and throw rotten vegetables at them, and then tarred & feathered and made to walk the streets apologising to everyone they meet.
Instead, they’re lauded up by AljaBeeba and the rest of the MSM, and given virtually a free pass by the police. It’s somewhat annoying, to say the least.
I thought the CAGW hoax would have imploded by now, but it seems it’s got a second wind.
}:o(