From The Daily Caller
Speaking at a “Girls Who Code” event in New York City, self-identified democratic socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez hit back against critics of her Green New Deal resolution.
WATCH:
Ocasio-Cortez declares "I'm the Boss… How 'bout that!" while claiming that no one else has tried to come up with climate change policy before the Green New Deal.
Apparently she's never seen @TheDemocrats policy platform… ever.
This infighting is going to be fun to watch. pic.twitter.com/AV1TgRa5kU
— Tim Young (@TimRunsHisMouth) February 24, 2019
“I just introduced the Green New Deal two weeks ago, and it’s creating all of this conversation,” the New York Democratic congresswoman said Friday to moderator Reshma Saujani, the CEO of Girls Who Code. “Why? Because no one else has even tried. Because no one else has even tried.”
Ocasio-Cortez claimed that — regardless of success — the “power” goes to the individual who tries.
“So people are like, ‘Oh it’s unrealistic. Oh it’s vague. Oh it doesn’t address this little minute thing.’ And I’m like, ‘You try. You do it. ‘Cuz you’re not. ‘Cuz you’re not. So, until you do it, I’m the boss.’ How ’bout that?’”
Ocasio-Cortez introduced her Green New Deal resolution earlier in February alongside Democratic Massachusetts Sen. Ed Markey. The bill not only calls for the U.S. to dramatically transition to 100 percent renewable energy in just a few years, but also demands upgrading all buildings in the country, addressing the emissions released from cow farts in a now-deleted FAQ page, and touches on a number of other progressive issues. (RELATED: ‘Dis Me. I’ve Been Around Awhile’: Joe Lieberman Is Not Impressed By Ocasio-Cortez)
The resolution has been met with criticism and ridicule from both parties. Senate Democratic Whip Dick Durbin, the second-highest ranking senator in his party, said after reading and re-reading the Green New Deal, he still had to ask a co-sponsor, “What in the heck is this?”
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell might bring the Green New Deal up for a vote in the upper chamber of Congress in the coming days. The move would force numerous Democratic presidential candidates to take a public stance on the bill.
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I think it is time to start placing bets on if AOC will finish her first term or be tossed out early.
A wise Latina would remember the Spanish proverb,
“A fish is caught by it’s mouth” before opening hers quite so much.
The public service that she was s providing of waking people up to just how ignorant and arrogant socialism truly is important and highly appreciated.
Saying stupid s–t isn’t a grounds for being tossed out early. She’ll finish her term, but she’ll piss off a number of powerful members of her own party in the process. The real betting on is whether she’ll survive the next primary let alone get re-elected.
There is a much more positive view of the GND which Pat at Jonova has picked up :
http://joannenova.com.au/2019/02/milennials-havent-forgotten-mao-stalin-or-lenin-they-never-knew-them/#comments
(comment 34.1)
The economics Professor Jeffrey Sachs (Columbia) thinks the deal is achievable apparently :
just a snippet:
-“What is absolutely clear is that the Green New Deal is affordable. The claims about the unaffordability of these goals are pure hype. The detailed plans that will emerge in the coming months will expose the bluster…
Decarbonization will include the following measures. Electricity generation will shift from coal and natural gas to wind, solar, hydro, and other zero-carbon technologies. Cars and trucks will shift from gasoline to electricity, using batteries or fuel cells (with hydrogen manufactured by electrolysis). Planes will use electricity for short flights and advanced zero-carbon fuels for longer flights. Buildings will be heated by electricity (such as heat pumps) rather than boilers and furnaces.
The costs of renewable energy are plummeting, making decarbonization eminently feasible…”–
Now Sachs is a highly intelligent and eminent expert in sustainable development. Could he be wrong?
I do not think that the debate is as easy a win for the conservatives as most of the comments above suggest .
(But the bit about planes?)
mikewaite
The guy’s just another nut job.
The greens hate hydro and will do everything to block it, we all know wind can’t provide a solution, nor can solar.
In his head, those cars and trucks will be drawing enormous amounts of extra electricity from a grid with those two unreliable sources of electricity. 40%+ of UK households have no off road parking, so how will they convert millions of 240v 13amp lampposts to provide the electricity to power millions of cars simultaneously. And, certainly where I live, that would mean, probably three or four cars per lamppost.
And I just love this idea of heat pumps. Great where they can be installed in a new build where the ground is being dug up anyway, but try installing a ground source heat pump into an existing dwelling. It is horrendously expensive, you’re talking £20+ in the UK. Air source heat pumps aren’t much cheaper. I know, I have made my own inquiries.
In addition, to have GSHP or ASHP operate well, a house must be super insulated. Virtually none of the housing stock in the UK is insulated at all, never mind super insulated. Even modern houses aren’t insulated sufficiently to benefit from these technologies. You can forget about city centres as well, none of the high rise buildings in London or anywhere else for that matter are sufficiently insulated to benefit from heat pumps. Does he imagine we are just going to tear them down and replace them with brand new buildings? In his socialist dreams!
“The costs of renewable energy are plummeting, making decarbonization eminently feasible…”
If you, or he believes that you will believe anything. Go along to Paul Homewood’s site https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com and have a gander at some of the numbers he posts regularly about the fake claim that renewables are getting cheaper.
The debate isn’t easy to win because of all the barefaced lies perpetuated by our left wing media about renewable energy.
Were renewable energy so cheap and reliable there wouldn’t be 120,000,000 people predicted to die prematurely in developing countries by 2050 from smoke inhalation because they are forced to burn wood and cow dung over open fires because they have no access to electricity. (World Health Organisation numbers). If windfarms were so cheap, there would be, right now, thousands of acres of wind farms being built to alleviate this disaster, but there’s not. Why? Because they are far too expensive and simply don’t work!
Perhaps if these green nutters were the humanitarians they claim to be they would allow these people reliable, cheap fossil fuel derived electricity and stop the largest deliberate genocide human history has ever seen before they preach to the wealthy west that we are evil.
Put in my vote to do away with heat pumps. I grew up in the US Midwest where we had gas heat. Rooms were comfortable when my Dad would actually would let us turn the thermostat up a bit. Fast forward a number of decades and I live in North Carolina with “milder winters” and am freezing my rear off when I sleep with our high efficiency heat pump. All I get is slightly above ambient temperature air coming out that is way below skin temperature. Doesn’t help that the duct blows right on the bed where I sleep.
HotScot
I agree with what you are saying , but that is not the point of my post (which I should have expanded upon). Prof Sachs is an important academic , with high “impact factor” in Govt circles around the world .If he says that the GND is a good idea people will listen.
However he is not an engineer or scientist and clearly has not been able to hold conversations with the sort of practical people who can put him right about the technical difficulties/impossibilities of GND. But he is intelligent , if he can be appraised of the problems then his opinion of GND will trend towards that espoused by most of the commenters here – and again he will be listened to by the people who matter , because, lets face it , you and I (alone) have little influence on political and economic decisions .
Prof Sachs is an important academic
Sorry, there’s no such thing. What there is are people who will listen because he’s espousing a viewpoint that they agree with, and people who will not listen because he is espousing nonsense. Hopefully there are more of the later than the former.
Does he imagine we are just going to tear them down and replace them with brand new buildings?
That’s precisely what the Green New Deal proposes for the US – Every single building is to be torn apart and rebuilt with the latest green technology – another reason the Green New Deal is not achievable despite what this “intelligent” idiot of a professor thinks. Just the labor required to tear apart and rebuild every building in the time frame specified by the GND would take more construction laborers than currently exist in all the world.
other zero-carbon technologies, fairy dust and unicorn farts perhaps ?
You see the problem with wind and solar is that there no control over the supplied side, you depend on processes over which you have no control , so you cannot get it when you need it only when its available which is not the same thing at all.
And all the fall back they have to deal with this issue is ‘storage ‘ although that also seems to made up of wishful think or batters which can offer nothing like the capacity required unless you build city block size facilities .
In reality the knowledge that renewable cannot supply in the manner required , is not a problem because they consider the ‘manner required ‘ to be a problem in the first place . They want nothing less than drastic reduction in energy usage not through efficiency but through the return to the ‘idealised rural past’ before evil industry when a lot less energy was needed . The cost of that is someone they ignore at best or happily accept at worst .
mikewaite,
I don’t know the man, but judging from what you’ve wrote that he’s said, the man is not “intelligent” he’s an idiot.
Electricity generation will shift from coal and natural gas to wind, solar, hydro, and other zero-carbon technologies.
the first question anyone with an IQ greater than their shoe size would ask is “name these other zero-carbon technologies?” because other than Nuclear (which most Green New Dealers won’t even consider) they don’t exist, and certainly won’t in the short time frame that AOC suggests the GND needs to be implemented in. That alone makes it unrealistic. You can’t make your plans based on technologies that don’t exist magically coming into existence just when you need them to.
Cars and trucks will shift from gasoline to electricity, using batteries or fuel cells (with hydrogen manufactured by electrolysis)
There’s all kinds of reason why that shift won’t happen anytime soon (barring draconian government intervention). 1) range anxiety, 2) battery life in cold environments, 3) Lack of charging facilities & long length of charging time 4) Fear of the Hindenburg effect (for the hydrogen fuel cells) to name just a few. There’s a reason that such “alternate fuel” vehicles make up only a very, very small niche of cars and trucks sold despite the subsidies and tax incentives for purchasing them (and that niche would be many times smaller without the subsidies and tax incentives)
Planes will use electricity for short flights and advanced zero-carbon fuels for longer flights.
Again, banking on currently non-existent technology is not an intelligent means of planning society. Manned electric planes are still only in the experimental stage and “advanced zero-carbon fuels for longer flights” don’t currently exist and even if invented tomorrow would require many years before they’re ready for prime time (if ever).
The costs of renewable energy are plummeting, making decarbonization eminently feasible
Bwahahahaha. Oh, wait, he’s serious. No, they’re not. Not when you add in all the real costs that advocates gloss over. There’s a reason why energy prices skyrocket as wind & solar take on larger and larger shares of the grid in all the places that have been “transitioning” to renewables. Perhaps the “intelligent” and “expert” Professor would be wise to look into that.
Not to mention that producing hydrogen through electrolysis is a net energy loss. You expend more energy breaking the molecular bond than you will ever get back by combustion of the resulting hydrogen.
This academic’s background likely wasn’t in chemistry.
There isn’t a single item in the GND that won’t bankrupt the country. All 10 combines is insanity to the 10th power.
How many trillions have we spent on wind and solar so far, and yet it only produces 1 to 2% of all the energy we need. (All energy, not just all electricity, because according to the GND, all other forms of power are to be banned.)
How many trillions are we going to have to spend on batteries so the country doesn’t have to shut down at night?
High speed trains? How many billions of dollars did CA spend, and they couldn’t even get a small section working.
Rebuild every single building in the entire country? It would take the entire federal budget to handle even a small state.
And so on.
Liberals lie, it’s what they do.
So people are like, ‘Oh it’s unrealistic. Oh it’s vague. Oh it doesn’t address this little minute thing.’
Or even where the extra $38 trillion is coming from.
You must give it to the New Yorkers for sending such a peach of a candidate to Congress.
Law and order conservative tyrants have always been preferred to the chaos and anarchy of progressive demagogues.. That is how Adolph Shikelgruber was democraticaly elected. TRUMP too!
Trump 2020 vision for the future. Make America Great Again. Make America Armed and Safe Again. Make America Wholesome Again.
Are you saying that mr T is the new mr H? When did T march into Poland? I must have missed something.
Wow, the mindless trolls are really oozing in today.
Someone who sees the world in terms of black and white.
There’s tyranny and there’s chaos, nothing in between.
Sheesh.
PS: Modern progressives are completely tyrannical. No anarchists in there.
Anarchism as a political philosophy is just about as far right as you can get.
The libertarian wants as little government as can be gotten away with.
The anarchist wants not even that.
I’m the Boss,
Sounds just like a democratic SOCIALIST
“I’m the Bosss”, isn’t that what got “Ace” Rothstein in trouble.
On the other hand, “Who’s the Boss” gave Tony Danza’s career a big boost.
(and Alyssa Milano as well.)
Shame that Alysssa grew up to be such a far-left loony.
This is where a quantum computer would come in handy. That is to figure out the best mix of ways to take advantage of the situation with crazy stupid in play. Never let a good political party crisis go to waste—right Rahm?
Well, she’s running true to the example of those before her.
Maybe we could get her to introduce a bill to repeal the laws of thermodynamics.
Don’t joke – they’ll try it.
Way too much hate for someone who seems pretty forthright. I know she is wrong about a lot of her ideas and facts, but given her world view where she believes that the world will end unless she does something, her statements, positions and actions all follow and make sense. True she is mixing socialist ideology in with climate policy….But lets be critical of the real flaw here, her acceptance of the armageddon crowds imminent heat death of humanity. Not sure how we could change her mind on that, it ain’t easy.
Hitler was pretty forthright about his plans as well.
There are two flaws. Her acceptance of thermageddon, and her desire to enslave everyone to her notion of a perfect world.
Not to mention the third flaw: It’s economically unfeasible. There isn’t enough money in the budget to pay for it at any tax rate.
There isn’t enough money in the entire country to pay for it.
One estimate puts it at greater than the GDP of the entire world. There literally isn’t enough money in the world to pay for it.
Her true flaw is her arrogance.
I actually don’t think it’s nearly enough hate, all things considered.
Blind idealism seems impenetrable by logic, and so perhaps a high volume of ridicule is a necessary measure to make any dent in her potential for rational thinking.
She’s likeable, no doubt. But likeability does not always trump shallowness, and, in her case, it makes her look even more like a moron.
I will use AOC’s logic: She must be relieved that historical American Bison herds have been eliminated. And is now after domesticated cows for the same reason. Note to AOC: Be sure and tell Pocahauntus that little piece of info so she can let her tribe know that everything’s good, methane producing bison are essentially gone and cows are next.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/248350887_Methane_emissions_from_bison-An_historic_herd_estimate_for_the_North_American_Great_Plains
Idiots.
Anything that happened before the onset of dangerous man-made global warming in that overheated Senate hearing room in 1988 just doesn’t matter. Especially ot Rep. Ocasio, who wasn;t even born yet.
She didn’t start the fire.
AOC is WRONG!! She is NOT the first to try to destroy America! I’d say Hitler had a go at it, and he failed! Hopefully, AOC will also fail! (The only way she could ever fund her pet projects is to get taxpayers to foot the bill since venture capitalists would never touch them!!)
You don’t even need to go back to WWII to find someone trying to destroy America, you need only look back to the previous occupant of the White House. One thing for AOC, she’s certainly more ambitious in her America destroying ideas the Obummer was.
“One thing for AOC, she’s certainly more ambitious in her America destroying ideas the Obummer was.”
Don’t underestimate Obama. He is still trying to destroy America as founded, with his weaponizing of the FBI, the DOJ and US intelligence agencies in his effort to prevent Trump from being elected and now that he is elected, Obama’s plan is to undermine Trump in every way.
Obama and Biden are the Elephants in the room. Someone ought to ask them about their role in these ongoing traitorous acts against the very foundations of our Republic.
China vs the US
China has a made in China 2025 plan to dominate all industries.
The Democrats have a plan to bankrupt the US by 2030 and to destroy US industry.
One of many Democrats country bankrupt and industry destroying plans (all the Democrat plans require spending trillions of dollars) is to spend trillions of dollars on green scams that have been proven to not significantly reduce anthropogenic CO2 emissions (see Germany where CO2 emissions have remained the same for the last 9 years even though billions and billions has been spent on wind and sun gathering.)
What plan has the greatest chance of success? Help!!!
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-12/rubio-seeks-to-counter-made-in-china-2025-manufacturing-plan
Senator Marco Rubio is proposing legislation that would counteract China’s “Made in China 2025” economic-development initiative by restricting and taxing Chinese investment in the U.S. and by raising import duties on goods produced by industries supported by Beijing’s program.
“The American people know something has gone wrong,” Rubio, a Republican from Florida, wrote in the introduction to the report. “Will our country look more like the land of shared opportunity my parents found when they arrived, or will we become a stagnant nation fighting over how to divide up what is left?”
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-says-there-is-a-legitimate-question-that-needs-to-be-asked-is-it-okay-to-still-have-children
“The whole premise of the Green New Deal, is that we’re screwed on climate. I’m sorry to break it to you,” she said. “When it comes to climate in particular, we’re actually screwed. There is a global threat to the planet.”
She added: “At this point, we don’t even have to prove it. Just walk outside in the winter in a lot of places, and its, either way worse than you’re used to, or way warmer than you’re used to.”
“Hurricanes, storms, wildfires,” she said. “We are dying now.”
She added: “At this point, we don’t even have to prove it. Just walk outside in the winter in a lot of places,…
It’s called weather. There’s nothing “unprecedented” about it. There’s always been cold winters and warm winters and hurricanes and storms and wildfires and any other “extreme” weather event she could care to name. And by all the records we have of such events, they are not getting worse or more frequent. Indeed some of them have been getting less not more in recent years.
It’s always odd leftist try to recoin the term “New Deal” which was an abject failure when fully implemented from 1933-1939.
Regardless, where is the bulk of GOP dissent to the basic junk science of AGW? It seems seriously lacking.
Where is the common sense link between the coded meaning of “climate” to global socialism? Why isn’t it front and center among mainstream political opposition to point this out?
While it may have been an abject failure, that’s not what leftist teachers have been teaching the children for decades. The propaganda has worked, as many people (particularly of AOC’s generation) believe the New Deal was a roaring success.
I kinda hope ‘Boss’ sticks. The comedic opportunities are not unprecedented, but still rich. How ’bout that?
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Boss o’ the Big Muddy. Yas’m.
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I see AOC as a symptom for most of our youth in that they have a very limited background in real fundamental physical science and are very knowledgeable about social sciences. A lapse of knowledge about economics is also largely present which drives most engineering projects but not a real concern here. I grew up in the 70’s and applauded mostly the extent of the efforts to clean up what was clearly a polluted environment. I was always a steward of the environment and wanted clean energy when it could be had. I am amazed at how far we have gone in my lifetime and I am speaking as a professional engineer. What concerns me the most now is that the sheer ignorance of the masses as to what it takes to produce energy for our current lifestyle is being challenged without even a whimper from people who haven’t a clue. Please try to inform yourselves about what life would be without modern energy. Live like a caveman otherwise.
I fear a very dangerous “Idiocracy” like the west has never seen is about to be unleashed in the very near future. We have Corbyn in the UK and Sanders in the USA. To a lesser extent we have the Australian Labor Party likely to be voted in (still dangerous, especially on energy). And Justin is already on the throne in Canada. AOC is a taste of the dangerous circus that is about to come it would seem. It’s funny right now but it could quickly spiral into very ugly. The green/left puts huge effort and expense into propaganda. The centre right needs to do a much better job of communicating the good it’s doing and the hard realities of energy choices for a sophisticated energy dependent world (basically ramp up their propaganda big-time).
“numerous Democratic presidential candidates to take a public stance on the bill.”
Yep.
“numerous Democratic presidential candidates to take a public stance on the bill.”
Tomorrow morning’s mornings.
https://www.google.com/search?q=the+beatles+good+morning&oq=the+Beatles+goo&aqs=chrome.
Why there’s no pasarán:
https://www.google.com/search?q=Islamic+moon+calendars&oq=Islamic+moon+calendars&aqs=chrome.
They never made Julian calendar reform.
Since 1300 years.
*rollseyes* again no one cares about you google searches. If you want to support whatever point you want to make with a link then provide a specific link to the relevant site. Putting a link to a google search is just a waste of everyone’s time. not to mention it’s just plain rude to expect others to sift through your search results to try and find whatever it is you are trying to get them to look at.
AOC/Another Obnoxious Communist
I would choose not to send my child to the university from which she earned her degree in economics, because she evidently learned Zilch!!!