‘Climate grief’: The growing emotional toll of climate change

From NBC News

Extreme weather and dire climate reports are intensifying the mental health effects of global warming: depression and resignation about the future.

Image: Embers fly above a firefighter as he works to control a backfire as the Delta Fire burns in the Shasta-Trinity National Forest
The Delta Fire rages in Shasta-Trinity National Forest in California on Sept. 6.Noah Berger / AP file

Dec. 24, 2018 / 5:35 AM ‎EST

By Avichai Scher

When the U.N. released its latest climate report in October, it warned that without “unprecedented” action, catastrophic conditions could arrive by 2040.

For Amy Jordan, 40, of Salt Lake City, a mother of three teenage children, the report caused a “crisis.”

“The emotional reaction of my kids was severe,” she told NBC News. “There was a lot of crying. They told me, ‘We know what’s coming, and it’s going to be really rough.’ “

She struggled too, because there wasn’t much she could do for them. “I want to have hope, but the reports are showing that this isn’t going to stop, so all we can do is cope,” she said.

The increasing visibility of climate change, combined with bleak scientific reports and rising carbon dioxide emissions, is taking a toll on mental health, especially among young people, who are increasingly losing hope for their future. Experts call it “climate grief,” depression, anxiety and mourning over climate change.

Last year, the American Psychological Association issued a report on climate change’s effect on mental health. The report primarily dealt with trauma from extreme weather but also recognized that “gradual, long-term changes in climate can also surface a number of different emotions, including fear, anger, feelings of powerlessness, or exhaustion.”

In the last few months, a string of reports have delivered dire warnings. The U.N. report said the worst effects — such as the flooding of coastal areas caused by rising sea levels, drought, food shortages and more frequent and severe natural disasters — could arrive as soon as 2040. In November, the Trump administration released a report with similarly alarming findings. Both reports said cutting greenhouse gas emissions could still avert many of these effects, but a study earlier this month found that after holding steady from 2014 to 2016, emissions rose in 2017 and are on course to hit an all-time high in 2018.

The reports came amid a string of powerful natural disasters, including some that wiped out entire communities, such as Paradise, California, incinerated by the Camp Fire, and Mexico Beach, Florida, washed away by Hurricane Michael.

According to a Yale survey taken this year, anxiety is rising in the U.S. over the climate. Sixty-two percent of people surveyed said they were at least “somewhat” worried about the climate, up from 49 percent in 2010. The rate of those who described themselves as “very” worried was 21 percent, about double the rate of a similar study in 2015. Only 6 percent said humans can and will reduce global warming.

Dr. Lise van Susteren, a psychiatrist in Washington and co-founder of the Climate Psychiatry Alliance, said it’s becoming harder for patients to ignore the threats of climate change.

“For a long time we were able to hold ourselves in a distance, listening to data and not being affected emotionally,” she said. “But it’s not just a science abstraction anymore. I’m increasingly seeing people who are in despair, and even panic. “

A 10-Step Program for Climate Grief

After the U.N. report was released, Jordan looked for a way to help her children cope. She saw a sign at her church for a support group that deals with the issue, the Good Grief Network.

Founded by Aimee Reau, 30, and LaUra Schmidt, 32, Good Grief offers a 10-step program to help people deal with collective grief — issues that affect a whole society, like racism, mass shootings and climate grief.

The program runs as a 10-week cycle, each weekly meeting tackling a different step. It’s currently in its third cycle in Salt Lake City and is also running online. The steps encourage participants to confront their climate fears and sadness and acknowledge that they are part of the problem as polluters in a carbon-fueled system, but also find the motivation and strength to be part of the solution.

“What helps people is building community, talking openly about the problem and how it affects them,” Schmidt told NBC News. “There’s a lot of pain about the climate people are bottling up.”

For Jordan, who works as an interpreter of American Sign Language, the program has been helpful.

“Grieving with other people is so healing, being able to talk openly and cry it out,” she said. “We look each other in the eye and say, ’this is really happening.’ ”

Jordan plans to bring the program back to her family and hopes that it will help her kids cope. “They express sadness over the loss of animal species and anxiety over the unknown, like if there will be enough food in the future and where people displaced by rising seas will live,” she said.

In September, Reau and Schmidt presented their program at Uplift Climate, an annual conference on climate change for people under 30, held entirely outdoors. This year’s event was held in New Mexico’s Cibola National Forest.

Aimee Reau, left, and LaUra Schmidt, creators of the Good Grief Network, hold a sign listing their 10 steps to deal with climate grief at the Uplift Climate conference in September.
Aimee Reau, left, and LaUra Schmidt, creators of the Good Grief Network, hold a sign listing their 10 steps to deal with climate grief at the Uplift Climate conference in September.Avichai Scher / For NBC News

“Is this the climate change depression session?” asked Kelton Manzanares, 27, from Utah.

“You’re in the right place,” replied Schmidt. Manzanares took his place in the circle of about 20 people in a patch of grass.

Schmidt asked participants what they wanted to get out of the session.

“Hope,” said one woman.

“Empowerment,” said another.

“It’s OK to feel sadness, grief and despair,” Schmidt told the group. “We’ll aim to normalize those hard feelings.”

Manzanares explained that drought has hit his community hard. Springs that were once flowing are now dry. Hungry and thirsty cattle are ruining once pristine land by scrounging for nourishment wherever they can find it. “I feel like I’m in a state of mourning or grieving when I think about it,” he said.

Bill McKibben, a climate activist for over 30 years who runs the climate advocacy organization 350.org, said groups like Good Grief can be an effective way to deal with climate grief.

“We can’t just be individuals, we need to join together and be a movement,” he said in an interview. “It makes you less grief-stricken. The best antidote to feeling powerless is activism. It doesn’t make you less sad, but adds hope, solidarity and love.”

Even though the latest U.N. report was a “kick in the stomach” for him, he cautioned that those experiencing existential grief over climate change are not its main victims. “It’s poor communities with flimsy homes that are washing away,” he said.

Distraught Over Having Kids

Almost all of the young people interviewed for this article said they were struggling with the ethical implications of having children.

“I’m definitely not having kids,” said Marcela Mulholland, 21, a student at the University of Florida in Orlando and a participant in the Uplift session. “I don’t have hope that we will avoid climate catastrophe. The changes that need to happen aren’t happening.”

Jordan said she used to talk with her kids about becoming parents someday. “I’d say, ‘You’ll be such a good dad.’ Now, it feels wrong. They don’t talk about it anymore either,” she said.

Antonia Cereijido, 26, a radio producer in New York City, is conflicted. “If I did have kids, they would have the worst life ever,” she said. But an environmental scientist told her that raising a climate-conscious child could be better than not having a child. “That did wonders for my anxiety, hearing that from a scientist. So now I’m not sure.”

At Uplift, Manzanares, who was about to become a father, said having a baby gives him hope. “It’s the most positive affirmation I can make about the future,” he said. “We aren’t giving up. This is a multigenerational problem.”

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Robert of Texas
December 28, 2018 2:09 pm

“I want to have hope, but the reports are showing that this isn’t going to stop, so all we can do is cope,”

This is EXACTLY how I feel about liberals in Congress! LOL

Reply to  Robert of Texas
December 28, 2018 2:21 pm

BINGO!

Greg
Reply to  steve case
December 29, 2018 12:54 am

‘Climate grief’: The growing emotional toll of climate change ALARMISM.

They totally miss the origins of ‘Climate grief’, and in the process produce more climate change ALARMISM.

Reply to  Greg
December 29, 2018 1:22 am

Yes, the psychological problems are caused by climate industry propaganda, not by climate change, itself.

Sometimes those psychological problems are so severe that they are deadly. Just ask the bereaved family members of David Buckel, Francisco Lotero, or Miriam Coletti, or the victims of Ted Kaczynski.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/argentina/7344329/Baby-survives-parents-global-warming-suicide-pact.html

The reality of manmade climate change is just the opposite. thanks, in part, to the benefits of higher CO2 levels, famines are rarer now than they’ve ever been before, in all of human history!

Some here are old enough to remember the Bangladesh famine in the 1970s (when CO2 was only about 330 ppmv). But places like India and Bangladesh are now suffering from food gluts instead of famines.

Thousands of scientific studies show that elevated CO2 is responsible for an average agricultural productivity increase of about 20%, and as CO2 levels rise that benefit continues to increase.

The significant harms of manmade climate change are all either purely hypothetical or immeasurably tiny. Sea-level rise has not measurably accelerated. Hurricanes have not measurably worsened. Severe tornadoes have measurably declined. Temperature increases are tiny, and innocuous. There’s no mass species extinction going on. The polar bears are doing fine.

The Earth’s climate is better than it’s been in at least seven hundred years, in fact probably better than it’s been in thousands of years. Rising CO2 levels are “greening” the planet, and helping to make agriculture more productive than it has ever been.
https://www.sealevel.info/greening_earth_spatial_patterns_Myneni.html

The greatest environmental damage is being done by climate mitigation programs. As vast swaths of the United States, Brazil, and east Asia are planted with monoculture corn, sugarcane & oil palms, to make “biofuels,” to “fight climate change,” biodiversity there goes nearly to zero. But that’s not due to climate change, itself, it’s due to misguided efforts to mitigate climate change.

Where manmade climate change affects the environment, the effect is generally positive. For instance, it has drastically increased biodiversity in large parts of the Sahel, as reported in National Geographic:
https://www.sealevel.info/Owen2009_Sahara_Desert_Greening-atGeo30639457.html

EXCERPT:

“Images taken between 1982 and 2002 revealed extensive regreening throughout the Sahel, according to a new study in the journal Biogeosciences. / The study suggests huge increases in vegetation in areas including central Chad and western Sudan. …
“’Before, there was not a single scorpion, not a single blade of grass,’ he said. “’Now you have people grazing their camels in areas which may not have been used for hundreds or even thousands of years. You see birds, ostriches, gazelles coming back, even sorts of amphibians coming back… The trend has continued for more than 20 years. It is indisputable.’”‍‍‍‍‍‍

The best evidence is that manmade climate change is modest and benign, and CO2 emissions are beneficial, rather than harmful. Learn more here:
https://sealevel.info/learnmore

Red94ViperRT10
Reply to  Dave Burton
December 29, 2018 11:47 am

In the link you presented from sealevel info, the few red areas appear to be at the fringes of the Amazon, in equatorial East Africa, and western China or maybe even into Tibet, I would hazard a guess that those declines could all be “man-made”, but not in any way linked to CO2 increase. I’m talking about the deforestation to plant “bio-fuels” crops? That’s just my first guess, I have no data to support that, does anyone have data to support or refute my guess?

Linda Goodman
Reply to  Dave Burton
January 2, 2019 1:15 am

Thanks for the factual information, David. Seems cockamamie that it’s in the comments section while alarmist propaganda is the story. I wonder if NBC has ever returned the favor and published a WUWT article. But why would they?

Linda Goodman
Reply to  Dave Burton
January 2, 2019 1:19 am

I mean Dave. Sorry, Dave.

Goldrider
Reply to  Greg
December 29, 2018 9:43 am

“Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds.” I challenge you to listen to NPR “news” from 6 to 8 AM and NOT get out of bed feeling like shooting yourself. THAT’S the power of the left’s propaganda. It’s why they play everything for emotional impact, facts irrelevant.

The larger problem is that modern society has lost all respect for the power of nature. You have to be pretty ignorant to believe that fires, floods, hurricanes etc. never happened before 1980. Public “education” has purposely left out many “inconvenient truths” which would provide much-needed context to what is seen daily on the TV screen.

To put it another way, these people aren’t half as “bright” as they look.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Robert of Texas
December 28, 2018 2:52 pm

Get ready for much, much more of the same, to wit:

Pelosi taps Florida Democrat to lead climate change panel

House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi has appointed Florida Rep. Kathy Castor to lead a special committee on climate change that will be reinstated in the new Congress.

Pelosi, the likely House speaker, said Castor brings experience, energy and “urgency to the existential threat of the climate crisis” facing the United States and the world. Castor is set to begin her seventh term representing the Tampa Bay area and serves on the House Energy and Commerce Committee.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pelosi-taps-florida-democrat-to-lead-climate-change-panel

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
December 28, 2018 6:48 pm

Before any of these politicians do anything regarding CO2, which is going to change our lives, we should require them to supply us the evidence on which they base their decisions to build windmills or impose a carbon tax or whatever other crazy scheme they come up with..

Before we take political action on CAGW, the People should demand that the politicians prove their case that CO2 is changing the Earth’s atmosphere in a detrimental way. We want EVIDENCE not assumptions, assertions or speculation. Just the evidence please. If you don’t have any evidence, then go away.

All this hysteria and NO, I repeat NO evidence of CAGW.

The way these CAGW True Believers can eliminate their stress is to realize they have been duped about the effects of CO2. CO2 is not detrimental to the atmosphere or human health.

Before you drive yourself nuts over it, ask some Alarmist to provide some evidence that CO2 is actually causing the Earth’s climate to change, and when they can’t supply that evidence, then you will know that CAGW is a fraud and the Earth’s atmosphere and humanity’s future are perfectly safe.

Look what the CAGW Liars have done to these poor people. When the people they have duped find out, they are not going to be happy.

Human-caused Climate Change/Global Warming is the biggest, most costly scam in history. The perpetrators should be held to account.

William
Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 29, 2018 7:05 am

I wholeheartedly agree! Unfortunately, the mind is powerful in it’s ability to subjectively create realities.

My wife is a teacher. She stood at the front doors of her school with her principal looking out at a typical Canadian snow storm (you know, the kind the alarmists have said are a thing of the past). As they watched the snow come down he turned to my wife and said: ” If that’s not proof of global warming I don’t what is.”

Last March I went into a local take out restaurant. I commented to the man behind the counter about how cold and rainy it was outside. He replied: “Yeah, definitely a sign of climate change, but politicians don’t want to admit it and its just going to get worse.”

This is the self-deluded nature of the climate fearful. In both stories the weather was normal Canadian weather. What we were experiencing that March was exactly what the weather in Canada is like in March, cold and rainy (sometimes snowy).

All the world is a climate Jonestown.

tom s
Reply to  William
December 29, 2018 9:57 am

I overhear idiots state garbage like this all the time. We just had a SNOW change to RAIN storm here at MSP a couple of days ago and an ignorant friend of mine made into a global warming comment on my FB post about the storm. I am a meteorologist so I post info concerning local storms. So I describe the storm and how it will change to rain and he says, ‘Yeah that’s normal in MSP in the winter’. to which I rolled my eyes than showed him that snow trends in MSP are up over the long term and this sort of wx scenario happens regularly here, especially in Dec if not any other winter month.. EVERYTHING to them is climate change/global warming when it comes to weather. Makes me sick. I told him I am not interested in playing this stupid game.

Linda MacLeod Goodman
Reply to  William
January 2, 2019 1:34 am

“All the world is a climate Jonestown.” That’s a good line. But it only seems true because the alarmists control the megaphones and drown out the voices of sanity. They even reach WUWT, which makes them seem especially dominant.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 29, 2018 8:00 am

You are correct, Tom Abbott, …. but you also know Pelosi, …… she will tell the “climate loonies” that …… “they have to pass the Climate Change Legislation Bill before they can know what is in the Climate Change Legislation Bill.

tom s
Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
December 29, 2018 9:52 am

I detest the left. And my friends that vote D are mostly naive especially when it comes to this B.S..

Sara
Reply to  Robert of Texas
December 28, 2018 7:19 pm

The ideological vacuum of substance in these claims is abhorrent. Per Louis Althusser, ideology is “the imagined existence (or idea) of things as it relates to the real conditions of existence”.

Public grandstanding reinforces the epistemological approach to confirming the ideological existence of climate change. Therefore, it is unlikely that these benighted souls who want the comforting reassurance that they are not alone in their angst-ridden but undefined feelings of guilt about ‘something’ (over which they have no control) will find any solace in the reality that they may have been taken for a ride.

If you can’t sort that out, well —
I’d like to build the world a home
And furnish it with love
With apple trees and honey bees
And snow-white turtle doves.
I’d like to teach the world to sing
In perfect harmony
I’d like to buy the world a Coke
And keep it company.

I feel much better now.

Trebla
Reply to  Sara
December 29, 2018 3:54 am

In a strange and somewhat perverse way, the very benefits of a fossil fuel driven world have resulted in too much leisure time for the masses. Freedom from the back-breaking work involved in eking out a living that our ancestors had to endure only 150 years ago means that these people can devote their energies to climate anxiety. If they were spending 14 hours a day laboring in the fields just to have enough to eat, I can guarantee you that climate anxiety would not be an issue.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Trebla
December 29, 2018 8:36 am

Trebla – December 29, 2018 at 3:54 am

Freedom from the back-breaking work involved in eking out a living that our ancestors had to endure only 150 years ago

Trebla, the above also applied to the evolution of our early human ancestors of 1,000,000+ years ago.

If they (150 years ago) were spending 14 hours a day laboring in the fields just to have enough to eat,

Shur nuff, Trebla, ….. and if our early human ancestors of 1,000,000+ years ago were having to spend most all of their awake hours of every day, ….. evading predators that wanted to eat them and looking for enough food to eat to survive, ….. they sure as ell didn’t have time for sitting around inventing tools.

MareeS55
Reply to  Robert of Texas
December 29, 2018 12:52 am

it’s hot today in Newcastle, Australia. 35C and not much of a sea breeze here next to the beach.

Our son has just ended his swing in the Pilbara gas fields, last temparature he took was 49.5C yesterday.

Now he is in Japan -2C. Climate change, hey?

tom s
Reply to  Robert of Texas
December 29, 2018 7:09 am

Yep, weather and her extremes have always and will always occur.. IT’S COMING CHILDREN! (good effing grief these people are sick)

Latitude
December 28, 2018 2:15 pm

this is sick…..they have brainwashed several generations with this crap

“hearing that from a scientist.”….anyone that stupid deserves it

Wrusssr
Reply to  Latitude
December 28, 2018 10:06 pm

Theatre of the Absurd . . .

Greg Cavanagh
Reply to  Latitude
December 29, 2018 2:14 pm

A life’s lesson in the making.
When they realise that they’ve been lied to, it will destroy the mysticism of the expert / scientists. They will grow up a little; be a little wiser, a little smarter.

Rud Istvan
December 28, 2018 2:17 pm

Better than the Onion. Real world unconscious satire.

And the good news is, some of these snowflakes say they won’t procreate, so fewer future mental health problems.

clivehoskin
Reply to  Rud Istvan
December 28, 2018 2:56 pm

Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies. -Groucho Marx

SMC
Reply to  clivehoskin
December 28, 2018 3:11 pm

I subscribe to Mark Twain’s theory on politicians… Politicians are like diapers. They should be changed frequently and for the same reason.

commieBob
Reply to  Rud Istvan
December 28, 2018 5:10 pm

Snowflake culture is killing our kids. link The antidote seems to be Jordan Peterson.

These snowflakes go to college where snowflake culture is inculcated. Their reward is that, because of their student loans, they become the equivalent of indentured servants. link It’s a bad deal all round and the snowflakes lack the resilience to do anything about it. Intellectually fraudulent postmodern ‘scholars’ have taken over our schools aided and abetted by an ever expanding college administration. By destroying the snowflake generation, they may have succeeded in doing more damage to the country than even the most vile climate scientists.

markl
December 28, 2018 2:18 pm

Shows you the effect of propaganda. Looking back the Germans wonder how they were duped into supporting genocide yet the answer is clear. In the end the scientists and media will blame each other and the politicians will blame both. Meanwhile the UN will go on with new extortion attempts in a never ending game to become the one world government.

ScienceABC123
December 28, 2018 2:19 pm

I remember when “catastrophic conditions” were going to arrive by 2000, then 2005, then 2010, then 2015, …

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  ScienceABC123
December 28, 2018 3:50 pm

Come on, get with the program. It’s 2030!

A complete coincidence that this date matches with the socialist new world order defined in Agenda 2030, naturally…

Rich Davis
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
December 28, 2018 5:13 pm

Well, no, the article says as soon as 2040.

As for me, I’m more concerned about the sun going red giant in a couple billion years. Fortunately by then we should be about 30 years away from cheap abundant fusion power!

Reply to  ScienceABC123
December 28, 2018 4:38 pm

We have twelve (well maybe now about 11.5) years to get “it” done.

I’m not sure what “it” is.

Does anybody know the specifics of what we have to get done in the next 12 years?

Rich Davis
Reply to  DonM
December 28, 2018 5:17 pm

Dismantle the US Constitution, eliminate nation states, implement global socialism. That’s it in broad strokes.

Francis Pileos
Reply to  Rich Davis
December 30, 2018 1:16 am

I think they aim at destroying the nation, the state is to be ceized. The constitution is already not respected.

drednicolson
Reply to  Francis Pileos
December 30, 2018 8:41 am

The Constitution is only words on very old paper, if it’s not also written on the heart of each American citizen.

Notanist
Reply to  ScienceABC123
December 28, 2018 5:30 pm

My favorite:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2005/oct/12/naturaldisasters.climatechange1

What a horrible tragedy! 50 million climate refugees by 2010! Here it is almost 9 years a later and not a single one of those poor lost souls has ever been found. Its all your fault, deniers!! 🙂

Al miller
Reply to  Notanist
December 28, 2018 5:36 pm

ROFL!🙄

Sara
Reply to  Notanist
December 28, 2018 7:24 pm

I plead not guilty! I had nothing to do with it! Nothing, I tell you!

I’m going to go buy the World a Coke and teach it how to sing.

Does anyone besides me wonder if the price of cannabis will go up because of things like this? There’s not stock in it on the market just yet, but still….

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Sara
December 29, 2018 9:00 am

The horrendous “sales & use” taxes that are being added to “the price of legal cannabis” by the States and local jurisdictions ….. have already begun “driving” the black-market sales of cannabis back “underground”.

The “street” price is less than the “store” price.

tom s
Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
December 29, 2018 10:03 am

Grubby govt hands….I called this. And so did many others I am sure.

Tom Halla
December 28, 2018 2:23 pm

Showing little kids there is no boogey man under the bed can work to relieve anxiety, even if what the kid wanted all along was to be paid some attention.
McKibben is insisting the boogey man is there, and has fangs, and eats sleeping children. Fundraising from the naïve with the promise of saving them from the climate boogey man is more than a bit unethical.

Mr.
Reply to  Tom Halla
December 28, 2018 5:26 pm

If I ever had the chance to meet Mr McKibben, I would ask him this question –
“in 1988, the CO2 concentration in the atmosphere was ~ 350 ppm. You maintain this is the ‘safe’ level for the climate, and what humans must now aspire to bring about once more. So are you actually saying that prior to 1988 the plant experienced a minimal number of catastrophic hurricanes, cyclones, tornadoes, floods, droughts, wildfires, blizzards, heatwaves, etc, and that 350 ppm CO2 will render these occurrences ‘tolerable’?”
(And a indulgent follow-up question would be – “Mr McKibben, have you ever read any history?”

bill johnston
Reply to  Tom Halla
December 28, 2018 6:47 pm

Maybe unethical but it sure seems to pay well.

Matheus Carvalho
December 28, 2018 2:31 pm

An alternative approach is to take advantage of these suckers. For example, buying stocks of companies that sell antidepressants. But this will work for 5 years tops, after what it will be too clear that it is all a scam, and then people will not be depressed, but angry.

Reply to  Matheus Carvalho
December 28, 2018 4:07 pm

Hmmm….I wonder if Al Gore is heavily invested?

Herbert
December 28, 2018 2:31 pm

“Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds”.- Charles Mackay.
People go mad in herds and regain their sanity slowly and one by one.

Dr K.A. Rodgers
Reply to  Herbert
December 28, 2018 5:21 pm

Beat me to it!

December 28, 2018 2:31 pm

Insanity is contagious and Climate Insanity, as sponsored by the IPCC, is highly contagious. Having captured the Media, Universities and education the Left can control and foster the spread of the insanity and prevent innoculation against it.

MarkW
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
December 28, 2018 3:30 pm

On another article, we have several of the usual trolls proclaiming that the AGW crowd has never, ever, not even once, made any catastrophic predictions.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  MarkW
December 28, 2018 3:52 pm

Perfectly true, as long as you add the qualifier “accurate”.

drednicolson
Reply to  MarkW
December 30, 2018 9:06 am

Because they don’t “predict”, they “project”! (In more ways than one.)

Barbara
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
December 28, 2018 5:00 pm

United Nations Sustainable Development Solutions Network (UNSDSN)

Members: Some 800 global chapters/groups.

Full list. And/or use search and enter country name to refine the search.
https://networks.unsdsn.org/members

Appears to be mostly academic institutions according to the list.

Networks again?

Steve O
December 28, 2018 2:35 pm

Imagine how they’ll feel if they figure out that they’re simply pawns — that the despair they are made to feel is merely a tool to help enact wealth transfers. Do you think they’ll mind?

Actually, after making such a deep emotional commitment to their views, they will be lifelong alarmists no matter what the eventual outcomes of science or temperature trends. They can 90 years old, shivering in North Carolina, and they will remain True Believers, as their internal rationalization mechanisms won’t allow them to believe they were ever manipulated like that.

drednicolson
Reply to  Steve O
December 30, 2018 9:13 am

Memory says, “I was duped.” Pride says, “I’m too smart to be duped.” Eventually, Memory’s voice fades to a whisper, but Pride never stops shouting.

Chris Hanley
December 28, 2018 2:38 pm

Without CC™ what would these people do with their otherwise empty lives⸮
Like Cavafy’s ‘barbarians’, CC™ is a kind of solution.

John Robertson
December 28, 2018 2:44 pm

I bit,I scanned the article..no mention on the fees.
I presume these lovies are providing their services free of charge?
Well I would, except what an opportunity to help the profession.
“Oh yes your grief is well founded,step this way,please deposit your wallets in the green bin..”

But on second thought,we should be cashing in too.
People this gullible need all the help we can give them.

Remember as long as they are broke and scratching for a living they will not have the leisure time to interfer with everyone else’s lives,living and luxury and being involved in working for a living might just shut them up on their endless hectoring and slack-jawed salvation spiels.

“Uplift” is a brilliant marketing scheme.
The “concerned ones” need as much of this kind of help as possible.

Christopher Hagan
December 28, 2018 2:50 pm

Mao did this. It worked great. People stopped growing food and only did industry. When winter came they all starved. They were promised central planning would be used to feed them.
NOW the propagandists say if we destroy our well operating society the new one they have planned for us will be better and work just fine. When asked how, they just say they will work that out latter its the idea that counts.
THIS is not going to work out well for the societies that really go for zero carbon dioxide produced from carbon based life forms.
If western countries go full solar and wind and we have one big volcano go off. They will be back to the stone age in a few months. Those countries with oil and gas infrastructure including vehicles will do far better and be more resilient.

MarkW
Reply to  Christopher Hagan
December 28, 2018 3:32 pm

No need to invoke a volcano. Wind and solar are enough to send most of us back to the stone age all by themselves.

Curious George
Reply to  MarkW
December 28, 2018 4:59 pm

Actually, it is the bronze age.

December 28, 2018 2:54 pm

Why the hell are they so upset?
In discussions I’ve been told time and again that there’s nothing ‘catastrophic’ about it and the term is never used by climate scientists.

I don’t know where they dug up:

When the U.N. released its latest climate report in October, it warned that without “unprecedented” action, catastrophic conditions could arrive by 2040.

Apparently it is better known as ‘Mildly Inconvenient, but possibly barely detectable Climate Change’
(MIBPBDCC).

ren
December 28, 2018 2:56 pm

A powerful blow of the Arctic frost in the north central US.
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Bruce Cobb
December 28, 2018 2:57 pm

This is Lucy Van Pelt psychiatry.
“Doc, I feel sad all the time about the weather, and all the animals going extinct, and how the earth will be destroyed, and it’s all our fault.”
“What you have is called “Climate Anxiety”. That’ll be $500 please.

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
December 28, 2018 4:44 pm

How old is Lucy, maybe 11?

Lucy’s sign is better lettered, way better.

Rich Davis
Reply to  DonM
December 28, 2018 5:29 pm

But did Lucy recommend to “know your brain”?

The poor production quality is made up for in the profundity of the advice.

December 28, 2018 3:04 pm

Shame on the pervasive malpractice that brings to this point. Show the children the clouds, the raindrops, the snow. Feel the wind and see how the soaring birds rise on the thermals. Watch and listen as a thunderstorm teaches us loudly that heat cannot be “trapped” at the surface for long. And if they come home from school expecting climate doom, ask them, “Who told you that?”

SMC
December 28, 2018 3:10 pm

https://nypost.com/2018/12/28/climate-change-expert-aaron-doering-charged-with-choking-his-fiance/

Saw this on Drudge… The poor climate change expert is obviously suffering from mental health issues… (not sure if I should include a sarc tag or not.)

Reply to  SMC
December 28, 2018 4:51 pm

… stressed out by the climate change (or lack thereof).

Admin
December 28, 2018 3:10 pm

They’re loading their poor kids with hopelessness, existential despair, and guilt for even being born, then wondering why the US opioid crisis is so out of control.

drednicolson
Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 30, 2018 12:04 pm

Aided and abetted by years of US doctors handing out narcotics prescriptions like candy to get higher patient satisfaction ratings and thus more Obamacare money. And by a good number of those prescription holders selling their excess pills on the streets for extra income.

Now the kneejerk over-regulation of opioids in response has made it much harder for chronic pain sufferers and other legitimate patients to get medications that actually work for them. 🙁

Alasdair
December 28, 2018 3:24 pm

These Climate Councillors are dangerous; as they merely reinforce the very fears that cause the problem.
A good dose of honest, down to earth scientific education is what is required.
The internet addresses of the reputable sceptical websites and blogs would be a good start.
But would these people be grateful having the cause of their depression removed?
I expect most will fight tooth and nail to continue with their indulgence.

Wharfplank
December 28, 2018 3:25 pm

This is what a post-Christian society looks like.

David Borth
December 28, 2018 3:34 pm

I suffered a different version of Climate Grief prior to 2006 – worry that there was no counter view to that of the alarmists – and that we were irrevocably on a path of sqaunderimg of humanity’s progress by chasing the nightmares invented by a very select group of scientists and politicians that had managed to play on the need for humans to be saved – primarily gaining its foothold after the summit in Rio in 1992.

It might be a bit of an exaggeration but the arrival of WUWT in 2006 nearly 15 years later was the peer support that I needed to push back against the depression I felt since 1992 as a result of the constant doomsday drumbeat.

Keep on keeping on with WUWT. Thank you Tony and all who make it work. It’s the best climate grief medication one can get.

Steve Reddish
Reply to  David Borth
December 28, 2018 4:10 pm

“Amy Jordan, 40, of Salt Lake City, a mother of three teenage children”

I wondered which of the predicted climate catastrophes would be affecting them in Salt Lake City.

Arctic sea ice melt reducing polar bear populations – nope!
Greenland and Antarctic ice melt causing sea level rise – nope!
Drought caused forest fires in California – nope!
Warmer oceans causing more hurricanes – nope!
Warmer oceans causing more rain in rainy areas – nope!
No more snow causing Utah ski resorts to close – Yep! This must be the cause of their grief.

Somebody should tell them their only real worry from CAGW will be freezing in winter due to adoption of renewable powered electricity.

SR

Marcus
December 28, 2018 3:43 pm

OK, what I really want to know is ….What the heck is an “Indirect HT/Marcus” ?

Sorry, couldn’t resist…LOL : )

Chris Hanley
December 28, 2018 3:44 pm

CC™ neurosis therapy instruction video:

Reply to  Chris Hanley
December 28, 2018 5:00 pm

Bob Newhart is great.

“STOP IT!

Best psychiatric advice to be given, ever.

James Clarke
Reply to  Chris Hanley
December 28, 2018 5:45 pm

This is one of my favorite skits of all time. I was training to do some group counseling, and the trainer shared this video. She explained that I should never use this method, but that I would want to all the time.

She was right.

drednicolson
Reply to  James Clarke
December 30, 2018 1:36 pm

Because you want to help people, but you also want job security. 😮

December 28, 2018 3:46 pm

“Imagine how they’ll feel if they figure out that they’re simply pawns — that the despair they are made to feel is merely a tool to help enact wealth transfers. Do you think they’ll mind? ”

The French have already found out, and it has just cost France billions while ordinary people rebel.
Meanwhile french police helicopters buzz the groups of yellows and stick all their car number plates through ANPR and feed it into a database+data mine the French social media for the faces….

When people realise how scams work, they usually start getting pretty violent, which is of course why Putin has just voted a law in Russia to try to keep the increasingly restless young generation in check, by doing what?

Scamming their parents & kids via their schools into participating in a national database with facial recognition software, identification of possible trouble makers from school records, and then fining parents impossible and crippling sums of money if their kids are ever found to be doing what people in democracies have a right to do:-

Kick out their governments and demand justice against all those that created the mayhem and the scams in the first place.

Macron was first.
Now with a sly 2% increase in VAT in Russia, cripplingly low salaries and forcing people to work til they drop dead, the next cinema likely to having a seance is likely to be RUSSIA, followed rapidly by a rebellion in Italy, Greece, Spain and a good deal of Germany.

Authoritarian states are taking a copy book from China who are doing as Chinese do, DUMPING and exporting on the world market all the tools which George Orwell was warning us all about.

Reply to  pigs_in_space
December 28, 2018 5:22 pm

“When people realise how scams work, they usually start getting pretty violent”

I believe it was someone who once said that people would rather be scammed than be told they’ve been scammed, so I’d like to take a moment to discuss safety. Victims of scams can be surprisingly violent for their size. Normally this behavior would be unproblematic, if not a Good Thing in absolute terms—revenge being man’s earliest, pre-agrarian attempt at a justice system, and such hard-won adaptations being nothing to sneeze at in any case. The one caveat, however, and I feel almost silly for warning everyone about this, is that this violent energy is not always released in the pro-social direction one might ideally like to hope it would be, viz. along a straight path from scammee to scammer, particularly not at first. In fact the human penchant for misguiding, displacing and sadly wasting the initial flourish of homicidal resentment is so common that the Internet even has a name for the phenomenon: ‘shooting the messenger.’ Happily, bulletproof vest technology is probably more advanced and affordable than it has been for several years, so there’s no excuse for not wearing it when you deprogram a relative or other loved one this Christmas.

David Wells
Reply to  Brad Keyes
December 29, 2018 11:02 am

Shorthand. People are offended by the truth.

drednicolson
Reply to  David Wells
December 30, 2018 1:40 pm

To the point that some even demand to be lied to.

Ian Macdonald
Reply to  pigs_in_space
December 28, 2018 11:59 pm

Perhaps there’s some mileage in the ‘pawn’ imagery to convince these climate activists that they are being ‘used’ by rich people. Puppetry could be another way to show it. Sheep?

King Gore sending his pawns in as sacrifices could be a good one though.

Reply to  Ian Macdonald
December 29, 2018 7:39 am

Telling someone that they have been scammed is easy.
Convincing them…that is the hard part.

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