CAGW: a ‘snarl’ word?

By Andy West

The term ‘CAGW’  has both appropriate and inappropriate usage.

Introduction

Rational Wiki says: ‘CAGW”, for “catastrophic anthropogenic global warming”, is a snarl word (or snarl acronym) that global warming denialists use for the established science of climate change. A Google Scholar search indicates that the term is never used in the scientific literature on climate.’10

Where in turn the link for ‘snarl word’ says: ‘A snarl word is a derogatory label that can be attached to something (or even to people), in order to dismiss their importance or worth, without guilt. When used as snarl words, these words are essentially meaningless; most of them can be used with meaning, but that seldom happens.

So setting aside the snarl implications of the word ‘denialist’11 above, is all the usage of the ‘CAGW’ acronym meaningless, i.e. it is essentially a snarl word only? Or is there significant meaning associated with some usage, i.e. does it have legitimate, ‘non-snarl’ currency also, associated with real meaning?

In typical usage ‘CAGW’ may be followed by words such as narrative, message, story, line, debate, controversy, mantra, meme, myth, scare, hysteria, hoax, scam, religion, cult, cause, movement, believers, faithful, crowd, advocates, promoters, proponents, consensus, theory, hypothesis, premise, claim, case, conjecture and various others. Or it may appear in sentences without any direct descriptors such as those above, for example: ‘Proof positive that CAGW is about power, politics and greed is the fact that…’, ‘Without this strong feedback there is no real basis for CAGW since…’, ‘I have been waiting for someone, anyone, to enunciate a unique, broadly accepted goal for a program to “dodge” the CAGW “bullet”…’, ‘Cost / benefit analysis is apparently against the rules when it comes to CAGW…’, ‘The alarm is not about a warming of the globe, nor particularly AGW. It is about CAGW’.12

These demonstrate a much wider application than for just the ‘established science’, which I take to mean mainstream science, as expressed in the Working Group Chapters13 of the IPCC’s latest full report (AR5), so hereafter AR5WGC. Whether or not any such usages of ‘CAGW’ are justified, they are broadly categorized (albeit with overlaps, especially meme and consensus at the boundaries) as follows:

  1. expressing a communication aspect, applicable not only to climate scientists but to any parties communicating or exchanging on climate change, such as social authority sources, policy makers, NGOs, businesses, other scientists, whoever, and reflected by the words above starting narrative, message and similar.
  2. expressing a social phenomenon aspect, whether assumed to have deliberate causation or emergent causation, and reflected by the words starting, myth, scare and similar.
  3. expressing the aspect of adherents of the phenomena in b), as reflected by the words starting believers, faithful and similar, OR of subscribers to the science per d), OR both.
  4. expressing the science aspect, as reflected by the words starting theory, hypothesis and similar.
  5. expressing the aspect of actual physical climate change, sarcastically or not, as being potentially catastrophic (usually without extra descriptors in this context).

Usage without descriptors per the example sentences, are generally contextualized by one of these same categories.

The communication aspects

This is the most straightforward category to characterize. Within the public domain, there is manifestly a widespread narrative of certainty (absent deep emissions cuts) of near-term (decades) climate catastrophe. This has emanated from many of the most powerful and influential figures in the West throughout the twenty-first century, as exampled by the quotes listed a) to z) in footnote 1. While based only on English language reportage, this sample nevertheless includes leaders, ex-leaders and candidate leaders from 8 Western nations (with the US, Germany, UK and France being economically 4 of 7 and politically 4 of 6, top world powers9), along with high ministers, high UN officials, the Pope and UK royalty, over about the last 15 years. The narrative is also framed in a most urgent and emotive manner, which hugely increases its re-transmission capability14, is global in scope (‘the planet’), and unequivocally attributes the imminent catastrophe from global warming to humans (via ‘emissions’), i.e. the ‘C’ is due to AGW.

Rational Wiki is essentially correct regarding the literal usage of ‘CAGW’ in climate science literature (I found a few references on Google Scholar). Yet it’s right too in a more meaningful sense; i.e. nothing like this narrative of high certainty and imminent global catastrophe is represented within mainstream climate science, i.e. per the AR5WGC. A point that has been noted before on this and other climate blogs. Albeit ‘catastrophic’ (or similar) is actually used in AR5WGC, this is in reference to local / specific improbable scenarios only (e.g. the term used for maximal, yet very rare end of spectrum, episodic river flooding)15. No reasonable interpretation could produce the exampled narrative framing that has achieved such a high public profile over many years. So according to mainstream science, i.e. no skeptics required, this climate catastrophe narrative is flat wrong15a. Even at the best stretch it drags fuzzy possibilities plus probabilities from behind a hedge of caveats and limitations, then pushes them all front and centre, promoted to high certainty within an apparently well-mapped space15b. Nevertheless, this narrative / story / line / mantra exists, and at the highest authority level.

The sampled authority figures do not just speak for themselves. They represent their governments and parties and organizations, to some extent their nations. The power of this representation coupled with high emotive framing should be a very significant factor in the propagation of the catastrophic narrative across society, and especially down the pyramids of functionality spreading out from national / UN leaderships, so influencing policy (impending catastrophe is often cited as the main reason to act). However, other sources are transmitting in parallel, e.g. environmental NGOs, and total propagation will be due to the merged contributions of all. Penetration / propagation of the same catastrophe narrative is highly visible further out from primary leaderships, as exampled by the quotes listed a) to z) in footnote 2, which cover lesser-ranking / local politicians, leaders of less influential nations, NGOs, economists and influencers.

Emergent narratives typically spawn many variants, which are briefly analyzed in the companion post ‘The Catastrophe Narrative’, with further analysis in the (common) footnotes file.

There is nothing inappropriate about coining a name for the widely communicated narrative of certainty of imminent (decades) catastrophe as exampled by footnotes 1 and 2, which prior to the exception of the current US administration permeated Western / UN (and other) authorities high and low, and that falsely claims to be underwritten by ‘the’ science. ‘CAGW’ as a label for this narrative is suitable and has full meaning. Likewise for the narrative variant categories as exampled by footnotes 3 to 5; while as noted in the companion post, a few of such specimens or more emphatic localization may technically escape either full-on certainty or full-on global or maybe, depending especially upon ambiguous word-choices, full-on catastrophe, even this subset are highly emotive pitches of the same ilk that typically aren’t backed by mainstream climate science.

As climate scientist Mike Hulme noted a dozen years ago, this narrative created significant impact even back then: “It seems that mere ‘climate change’ was not going to be bad enough, and so now it must be ‘catastrophic’ to be worthy of attention. The increasing use of this pejorative term – and its bedfellow qualifiers ‘chaotic’, ‘irreversible’, ‘rapid’ – has altered the public discourse around climate change.” In 2010, Hans von Storch agreed16a.

The science aspects

Emphasizing the Rational Wiki quote above, Jacobs et al (in 2016 book) finds no merit in the claim ‘that catastrophic anthropogenic global warming is the mainstream scientific position’, i.e. mainstream science doesn’t support the concept of a high certainty (absent action) of imminent global catastrophe. So, although the IPCC integrates a range of scientific opinion and incorporates various outlier possibilities, within the scientific community there cannot be a widely accepted theory or hypothesis or premise or case for this. Hence directly tying mainstream climate science (including conventional AGW theory, no ‘C’) to this concept via ‘CAGW’ labeling, or implying that ‘CAGW theory’ is dominant (so perforce must cover the mainstream), is inappropriate. Some think no current science can claim the catastrophic15b, however…

This doesn’t imply an absence of scientific support for the principle. A minority of scientists, some very vocal, believe that ‘CAGW’ scenarios are more realistic. Footnotes 6 and 7 provide examples of about 50 climate scientists plus environmental and other scientists expressing their views of the catastrophic. To express a truly held belief is not to dissemble, so presumably these individuals have theories (probably not all the same) which lead them to this view, albeit not reflected by the mainstream / AR5WGC. Or at least they think such theories from other sources are highly credible. Their expressions typically ignore more balanced interpretations from their mainstream colleagues, or otherwise criticize the mainstream as being too conservative, often performing the same transformation / promotion as mentioned at the end of paragraph 2 section 2 above. Emotive phrasing is common, also featuring a large range of highly negative metaphors (e.g. hell or ballistic missiles or cars speeding towards cliffs), and / or the end of humans or civilization or the planet, with typically a sense of inevitability (unless major action). Hence using say ‘CAGW theory’ to label the claims of specific such scientists, is legitimate. But the much more typical sweeping references that imply ‘CAGW theory’ is the ‘official’ science, are illegitimate. In relation to the current mainstream, ‘CAGW theory’ is very much unofficial science.

Portraying scientists who propagate ‘CAGW’ notions as representative of the mainstream, via ‘CAGW’ labeling or any other means, is also inappropriate. However, this is a forgivable sin for the general public; how would they know that James Hansen, for instance17, occupies a minority fringe at odds with the main climate science community? And they aren’t the only ones subject to confusion about what is mainstream and where particular scientists might stand. Catastrophe narratives have infiltrated climate science and science communities generally. Their strong emotive content erodes objectivity17a and pressures scientists to reflect such narrative, hence especially within science communication.

In his book climate scientist Mike Hulme describes a step change towards the catastrophic in the ways that climate change risk was expressed in the public sphere, following an international climate change conference held in Exeter UK, in 2005. And to continue Hulme’s 2006 quote (via the BBC) from section 2: “This discourse is now characterized by phrases such as ‘climate change is worse than we thought’, that we are approaching ‘irreversible tipping in the Earth’s climate’, and that we are ‘at the point of no return’. I have found myself increasingly chastised by climate change campaigners when my public statements and lectures on climate change have not satisfied their thirst for environmental drama and exaggerated rhetoric. It seems that it is we, the professional climate scientists, who are now the (catastrophe) skeptics. How the wheel turns… …Why is it not just campaigners, but politicians and scientists too, who are openly confusing the language of fear, terror and disaster with the observable physical reality of climate change, actively ignoring the careful hedging which surrounds science’s predictions?” (bold mine). Yet in the face of continuing emotive pressure, even 12 years later a wider acknowledgement of this issue is still weak25.

So, in respect of the science aspects ‘CAGW’ has both appropriate and inappropriate usage. Without a proper survey it seems more typically the latter. Thus it’s likely regarding purely the science aspects that Rational wiki is mostly right, albeit only technically, in saying: ‘Despite the qualifier, denialists apply the term indiscriminately to anything approximating the mainstream scientific view on climate, regardless of whether or not “catastrophic” outcomes are implied’, and notwithstanding its own serious snarl word issue11. In practice, the deep entanglement of catastrophe narratives with climate science communication creates very understandable confusion, and an environment where serious misunderstanding is inevitable.

Given also that for many years the climate change narrative from highest authorities to the public is insistently catastrophic, Rational wiki’s claim that deployment of the acronym is a deliberate ploy of the desperate (‘an attempt to move the goalposts’), is one that ignores the big picture. A-list presidents and prime ministers plus the UN elite and other authorities too (along with some scientists), already moved the goalposts, and indeed repeatedly reinforce that the catastrophic is backed by mainstream science. This impressive and coordinated array of authorities are not generally referred to as ‘deniers’, and it shouldn’t be a surprise that very many folks believe their attribution. Hence such folks are confronted by a complete clash between the unequivocal authority expression that the catastrophic is indeed backed by science18, and affront from individual scientists or their supporters as expressed on side channels when they’re specifically associated with the catastrophic. This affront is very understandable18a. Yet so is the response of those who feel that somewhere within this clash they’ve been hoodwinked, and assume the enterprise of climate science must be the culprit (in fact, an emergent phenomenon is ultimate cause). It’s especially confusing that some actors have a foot in both camps (e.g. significant IPCC contributors who publicly express catastrophe narrative19).

Starting even before AR5 some scientists projecting more severe climate change consequences, including a subset clearly claiming catastrophic outcomes20, complain that mainstream science per the IPCC is way too conservative, even politically diluted. Whether their science is bunkum or has a basis in reality, they likely have significant support. Albeit that the important distinction between ‘severe’ and ‘catastrophic’ isn’t provided, 41% of 998 AGU+AMS members asked about ‘the likely effects of global climate change in the next 50 to 100 years’, replied ‘severe/catastrophic’ (2012, pay-walled, but some details at Wiki). In a more recent expression (Mar 2018) some climate scientists objected to oil companies presenting AR5 as evidence showing lack of serious harms, claiming it was outdated (published 2013/14), and later science predicts much worse consequences. Some scientists emphasizing much higher impacts are socially touted as having better understanding than the majority driving the ‘conservative’ consensus.

However, notwithstanding plenty of catastrophe narrative ballyhoo30 from usual voices regarding the new SR15, as the content itself indicates31 there seems little chance that the steady and incremental evolution of the IPCC reports will change to a dramatically different position for the full AR6, or indeed afterward. And ironically, if various outlier theories regarding the catastrophic did gain enough ground to cause a paradigm shift, becoming mainstream, most of the inappropriate usage of ‘CAGW’ would transform to legitimacy overnight. It’s likely that social pressure to converge upon (cultural, not scientific) narratives of the catastrophic, has contributed to such theories; emotive memes are a major component via which many large-scale social consensuses are formed, e.g. within religions. Such consensuses don’t relate to truth. Note: scientific probing of worst case scenarios is potentially useful, as long as such efforts don’t morph into emotive narratives that help panic the public and policy makers towards perceived ultra-urgency and radical solutions, or indeed towards any agenda. With its speculative nature preserved, such exploration doesn’t earn a ‘CAGW theory’ label. Yet wielding it as authority with sexed-up likelihoods and / or emotively overwhelmed conditionals in order to pressure and persuade (e.g. footnote example 7aa), certainly earns the label ‘CAGW narrative’.

The social phenomena and adherence aspects

Just as with the science section above, there is appropriate and inappropriate deployment of ‘CAGW’ to describe social phenomena in the climate domain. So for instance it’s appropriate to talk about a social consensus in catastrophe among certain groups, but not a scientific consensus within the IPCC, say. It’s appropriate to describe ardent members of a green NGO who are heavily involved in promoting climate catastrophe narratives, as ‘CAGW advocates’ say, yet certainly not to apply this term to ‘all Democrats’, for instance, even if statistically there is somewhat more catastrophe narrative promotion by members of that party. Such labelling even when appropriate, does not imply any wrong-doing or dysfunction on the part of those so labelled, although some level of ‘faith’ (to use another partner term that crops up) in the narrative that many world leaders have lavished on the public for many years, is both likely and eminently understandable. Partner terms like ‘hoax’ and ‘scam’ are generally inappropriate too, because they cannot be main causation for the CAGW phenomenon32.

It comes down to who is adding the catastrophic, or ‘C’, to the mix. Michael Barnard at Quora notes in his discussion of ‘CAGW’: ‘Emotive adjectives are intended to create an emotional response rather than an intellectual response. Catastrophic is an emotive adjective.’ Yes. For sure, over-emotive content tends to cloud judgment; in memetic terms more-emotive memes have a greater selection value than less-emotive ones in domains of high (or even perceived high) uncertainty, thus preferentially prospering. Which is exactly why the narrative of catastrophe abounds within authority statements about climate change, per footnotes 1 to 5, plus is so pervasive within the public domain generally. (However, an ‘intent’ can’t be assumed; regarding emergent narratives the great majority of people are propagating what they genuinely and passionately think is truth). The Quroa text continues: ‘Adding catastrophic to the neutral phrase “anthropogenic global warming” is making it needlessly emotive.’ So, if indeed the person deploying ‘CAGW’ is needlessly adding the ‘C’, then yes. But… if that ‘C’ merely reflects the catastrophic that already existed regarding the social phenomenon or group or followers being described (e.g. Greenpeace politically pressuring with a campaign based upon certain catastrophic climate change), or indeed per section 2 catastrophic narrative or section 3 *specific* science / scientists aligned to catastrophe, then the ‘C’ is a correct and proper description. Emotive persuasion was injected by that being described, not by the mere act of (correctly) describing it.

Michael’s valid points about emotive descriptors and neutrality miss the big picture. While emphasizing as I do that ‘CAGW’ misrepresents mainstream / AR5WGC climate science, he makes no mention that according to an array of the highest authority sources, so largely within the public understanding too, the catastrophic is backed by mainstream climate / AGW science. Not to mention missing that describing pre-existing highly emotive phenomena, requires a meaningful reference to the emotive content.

Summary and Discussion

According to majority / mainstream science and indeed minority skepticism too, the CAGW narrative is a major misrepresentation22. Yet according to a minority of scientists at the opposite fringe to skeptics, this narrative reflects a more realistic position. Whether future history proves notions of CAGW to be right or wrong, acronym usage like the last 2 instances is entirely meaningful; notions of the catastrophic (absent major emissions cuts) and a copious narrative about them, patently exist. Such narrative is widespread in the public domain, being emphatically promoted by highly influential Western authority (until the current US admin exception) plus a raft of other authorities too23, who frequently cite imminent catastrophe as the principal reason for action on emissions. Nor has it spread via demonstrable scientific confirmation (albeit such confirmation may conceivably occur one day), but merely via emotive persuasiveness.

Nevertheless A-list presidents, prime ministers and the UN elite (the latter contradicting their own IPCC) claim that CAGW is validated by mainstream science. It’s difficult to see how this false backing could ever be questioned in the public mind, unless the mainstream science community pushes back far more strongly against such assertions. Meanwhile the fringe camp, i.e. those scientists (general and climate disciplines) comfortable with catastrophic projections, are much less shy about pushing authority with their concerns.

Despite oft-used inflationary descriptors or terminal metaphors5g,7h, sometimes references to extreme weather, or even straight propositions like the ‘save the planet’ or absent action a collapse of civilization, catastrophe narrative as it appears in footnotes 1 to 5 has no consistent definition of what ‘catastrophe’ actually means, or indeed quite how this state is arrived at. From the PoV of narrative success this is a fantastic attribute, allowing the latitude for each person to interpret the worst in their own terms (hence over numerous propagations, a generic apocalypse canon eventually emerges). Perhaps such vagueness might be expected from non-scientists, yet the public propagation from exampled scientists6,7 is no less emotively descriptive and no more consistent regarding actual meaning. Arguably, it is more lurid and emotively penetrating, and less objective.

This fluidity allows the CAGW narrative to hi-jack any view that is not actively skeptical via highly emotive persuasion, also seize the perceived moral high ground, while simultaneously bypassing objective considerations about the real meaning, and by omission avoid culpability regarding any unsupported (by the mainstream) mechanisms of, and uncertainties regarding, global catastrophe, which are not actually detailed. (When quotes are from scientists some detail may appear in associated papers, typically falling short of the framing of high certainty of global catastrophe, yet the public and likely authority too, only sees the public quotes anyhow). In short, it has very high selective value. Its emotive potency even sets the bounds of what skepticism is perceived to be within the public domain, and thus enables authority sources to claim mainstream territory even though mainstream science doesn’t support the catastrophic via any reasonable interpretation of this collective narrative.

Along with appropriate usage, there is much inappropriate usage from engaged skeptics deploying the term ‘CAGW’. In complete contrast to the situation with A-listers and influencers above, whose linkage of the catastrophic with mainstream science isn’t challenged, indeed is often praised, similar associations from skeptics typically attract vociferous objection. Misuse increases polarization and impedes greater understanding; this blunder28 from skeptics shouldn’t be overlooked. However, it seems unlikely that the great majority of the public are even aware of the ‘CAGW’ acronym26, so the impact upon them of any misuse via this term must perforce be very modest indeed. Yet whether leaning skeptical or orthodox or indifferent regarding climate change, few of the public will be unaware of the narrative of certain (absent action) man-made catastrophe that perfectly reasonably earns the acronym ‘CAGW’.

The misdirection and bias plus instinctive kick-back invoked by such highly emotive misinformation, as propagated for years by the exampled A-listers / authorities / orgs, utterly dwarfs any above impact. This acronym may indeed be an invention of skeptics24, yet not the untamed narrative that it describes. The latter doesn’t injure only mainstream science, but all science, including even that work which may point towards more severe consequences, because its long and high profile in the public domain isn’t any result of science, and the emotive biases it amplifies leak back into science21.

So ‘CAGW’ can be used as a ‘snarl word’, and is, albeit misunderstanding is likely the main cause. It is also a perfectly reasonable and meaningful term for a long-lived narrative elephant (with consequent effects) in the public domain and from top authority sources, plus a presence in some science too, and an ethic behind some social responses. Thus, when describing these phenomena, CAGW is not at all the straw-man that some of the orthodox claim. When the naming of a valid concept is avoided, discussing that concept becomes difficult, with awkward / obscure phrases and dancing around the issue. Or still more comedic, like whispering about he-who-must-not-be-named in Harry Potter. Hence despite some acquired cultural aggressiveness, which often sticks to terms within conflicted domains, the appropriate use of ‘CAGW’ is meaningful and necessary. Without it, the domain would simply need a virtually identical replacement term27 to express the valid concept it accurately covers.

Andy West.

www.wearenarrative.wordpress.com

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Bruce Cobb
November 27, 2018 11:48 am

“CAGW” is a “snarl word”? BA-hahahahahahahaha!
It’s the most benign “word” there is to describe the Clan of Catasrophic Climate Caterwaulers. Climate Bedwetters is an oldie but goodie – I think Chris Monkton came up with that one. There must be dozens of them out there, all way more zingy than the blah CAGW.

Steve O
November 27, 2018 11:49 am

“Despite the qualifier, denialists apply the term indiscriminately to anything approximating the mainstream scientific view on climate, regardless of whether or not “catastrophic” outcomes are implied’,

— Is there some disagreement on the other side whether outcomes will be catastrophic? Is that not the consensus outcome? If not, it’s time for those who don’t see any impending catastrophe to speak up because public policy seems to be formed based on the need to avoid an impending doom.

November 27, 2018 12:00 pm

That article was a huge waste of space (as well as being unreadable all the way through; something that could have been reasoned in a few sentences.

– “Anthropogenic Global Warming” (AWG) is a noun/nominal phrase. It can stand on its own. No reasonable person suggests AWG does not exist. (Except for the 3 “climate scientists” who said “no” to the first Doran and Zimmerman question.) Deforestation is only one example. But it is a much larger leap of logic to assume that ANY warming caused by man’s activity will be devastating. (Which BHO did when he grossly “exaggerated” the Doran and Zimmerman responses.)

– “Catastrophic” is an adjective. It describes the type of AWG that may not only be somewhat harmful (why not beneficial?) but would cause an end to normal life on this planet as we know it. (Tipping points and all that rot.)

– It is clear why “mainstream” or “consensus” science does not want the adjective applied. Without it they can continue to fool the public into thinking any man-made warming has to be avoided at all costs (and changing light bulbs will make a difference). (Similar to one who one who sneaks into a country and insists on the label “immigrant” claiming “no human being is “illegal””; and we then get data from the MSM confounding impacts of legal and illegal immigrants on the criminal justice or welfare systems.)

– For my part I have no objection to a few degrees of warming on the planet (which might even occur at night and in higher latitudes). I would never enter into a discussion to say there is no such thing as AWG.

– But when so called “experts” (Mann et al) claim “catastrophic consequences” from that warming I want to be able characterize that with which I disagree! How could I possibly enter into such a discussion without introducing that adjective?

icisil
November 27, 2018 12:03 pm

CAGW is used out of necessity to clarify the equivocal language of climate devotees. Example:

Devotee: GW is real
Skeptic: Doubt it
D: Science clearly shows that GW has been occurring since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution
S: Yeah, I know the world’s been warming since the end of the Little Ice Age, but it’s not AGW
D: Man produces CO2, CO2 is a greenhouse gas, therefore, you deny AGW
S: Listen, whatever warming man adds it’s not CAGW. Get it?
D: I’m offended by your snarly denial of GW

n.n
November 27, 2018 12:07 pm

Science is a philosophy of the near-frame. Forward it is prophecy. Backward it is myth. The hypothesis of Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming, Anthropogenic Global Warming, Global Warming, etc. are political myths. We should avoid conflating skepticism of political myths spread by politicians, bureaucrats, academics, and the press. We should avoid conflating logical domains, without firm statements of assertions, assumptions, and expectations, that when ignored serve to corrupt science with those beliefs.

n.n
Reply to  n.n
November 27, 2018 12:18 pm

The hypothesis of Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming, the “anthropogenic” and “global” qualifiers are critical to the political myth, and so is “catastrophic” to a large extent, is asserted based on an extrapolation (i.e. inference) of an effect observed in isolation to global proportions in the wild. The myth and circumstantial evidence is necessary to claim a scientific problem and sufficient to carry out a risk analysis, but does not justify extreme measures of redistributive change and other efforts to abort or otherwise retard development, selectively, opportunistically, for profit.

November 27, 2018 12:09 pm

The alarmists are really pushing their agenda. Must be the looming loss of cash flow on the horizon.

Scott
November 27, 2018 12:12 pm

It’s sort of like ‘colored people’ is now racist, but ‘People of color’ is not. You have to keep up with the social justice goalposts – apparently even where science is concerned. I was called out just yesterday for using the term ‘global warming’ , and my tormentor scolded me for not using the proper term – climate change. I pointed out that at the heart of the theory…is warming…and he went away angry, confident of my obvious ignorance. CAGW us still in use without the acrimony, but I’m starting to think many of the loudest believers just don’t know what it stands for. We should probably just be thankful that Al Gore didn’t get his way and have everyone calling it ‘global climate disruption’…what a mouthful.

n.n
Reply to  Scott
November 27, 2018 12:22 pm

Today it is “diversity” or color judgments/discrimination (e.g. racism). Color before character, or not seeing the trees (i.e. individual, principles) for the forest (e.g. sex, gender, race, and other groupings). The semantic games are in play. One step forward, two steps backward.

icisil
Reply to  Scott
November 27, 2018 12:35 pm

It’s morphed into climate breakdown. Not kidding.

H.R.
Reply to  icisil
November 28, 2018 4:40 am

Climate breakdown?!?

Dang! Somebody call for a tow truck, quick!

November 27, 2018 12:18 pm

Natural Environment Research Council (NERC): “The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) asserts that limiting global warming to 1.5˚C could avert the most Catastrophic Effects of Climate Change. ”
OK then , not CAGW but CECC.

John Endicott
November 27, 2018 12:19 pm

Rational Wiki says: ‘“CAGW”, for “catastrophic anthropogenic global warming”, is a snarl word (or snarl acronym) that global warming denialists use for the established science of climate change.

Rational wiki, you lost all credibility on the subject the minute you used the snarl word “denialists”. Unlike that snarl word, “CAGW” has utility as a description of what is being discusses, because if the AGW isn’t C than there’s no need to do anything about it, certainly no need to spend $trillions and destroy economies over it.

Bear
Reply to  John Endicott
November 27, 2018 1:52 pm

Right on the money. Now that’s a snarl word. As soon as someone uses “denialist” they’ve lost all credibility with me.

Reply to  John Endicott
November 27, 2018 4:53 pm

Excellent statement.

Utterbilge
November 27, 2018 12:26 pm

” Snarl ” seems quite uncalled for.
“Crank” is both more apposite, and easier to quantify, using the time-tested Baez Criteria :

https://tinyurl.com/5zfo48

Stevek
November 27, 2018 12:28 pm

They don’t want don’t even want to define what we are debating.

n.n
November 27, 2018 12:34 pm

The term “denial” is most closely, politically, and emotionally associated with the one-time National Socialist practice of denying life they deemed unworthy of life (e.g. selective-Jew), who they believed were guilty of Jew privilege. The close association of “denial” and skepticism of Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming, Anthropogenic Global Warming, and the truism: Climate Change, is beyond slander, and merits contempt with prejudice.

Rob_Dawg
November 27, 2018 1:16 pm

CAGW? It doesn’t stand for “Computationally Assumed Global Warming?”

November 27, 2018 1:28 pm

Despite the analysis to death, a modifer is essential for the issue to have meaning. Were it simply Global Warming, a so-what bland observation made by everybody concerning the last several hundred years, there is no concern built in to GW.

Okay, what happens if we categorize the development as ‘Anthropically’ caused? Well we would get some differences of opinion on how much or if at all, but guess what? Since neither ‘anthropogenic’ or ‘warming’ descriptors are alarming in themselves, this just makes another so-what phrase, equally begging for a modifier.

So, is this AGW a benign development, a nuisance, a worrying concern to humans and their economies or are we heading, unchecked, into a planetary crisis for the entire biosphere with mass extinctions, the statue of liberty up to her armpits in seawater, the collapse of the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets…

Oh its planetary! You even want to name the planetary epoch the Anthropocene! Then let’s not hide the horror in a wishy washy terminolgy. Choose a modifier that is a synonym for catastrophic if you dont like ‘Catastrophic’, say ‘Cataclysmic’ or Calamitous, how about Apocalyptic… Catastrophism is at least a scientific term (geol.)

Joel O’Bryan up above had it right. When the globe stopped warming for 2 decades, the same duration of the warming spell that had ‘Established(!) Cimate Science’ all exercised, they changed the term to ‘Climate Change’ so whatever happened was covered. I do believe they dislike the ‘Warming’ part as much as the ‘Catastrophic’ part even when all the worries are that business as usual wil be, well, errr catastrophic.

Rud Istvan
November 27, 2018 1:31 pm

Snarl word CAGW = warmunist projection.
They predicted catastrophes, and snarl when skeptics point out how foolish they later look in reality. West Side Drive still not under water. Arctic ice still there. Polar bears thriving. Tuvalu growing rather than shrinking (ditto Maldives, Vanuatu, and Kiribati). UK Kids have plenty of snow to play in. Wind is still intermittent. Sun still does not shine at night. Neither provides grid inertia. So renewables an economic and grid reliability disaster. No wonder warmunists project CAGW as a skeptical snarl word. If my belief system conflicted with reality as much as theirs, I’d be snarly too.
Great post, Andy West. Learned something new. TY.

Reply to  Rud Istvan
November 28, 2018 9:19 am

Thanks, Rud 🙂

Robber
November 27, 2018 1:39 pm

Can someone run a survey of those mainstream “climate scientists” – do you believe in CAGW?

Rob_Dawg
Reply to  Robber
November 27, 2018 1:58 pm

Why am I thinking the number 97%?

LdB
Reply to  Robber
November 27, 2018 4:24 pm

If they didn’t believe it was catastrophic then they would just reporting, we did our study and things are up slightly so we have some basic advice you might like to consider. That doesn’t really sound like any climate scientist I have ever heard, the ones who want to change the entire world political and economic landscape no matter what.
The whole Snarl word junk is just another psychology argument to try and control and frame the discussion. It comes from the belief he who makes the definitions controls the arguments.

jim hogg
November 27, 2018 2:02 pm

Just because it’s misused by some doesn’t strip it of legitimacy when properly used. The acronym doesn’t contain any letter implying imminence, so I think I’ll stick with using it in connection with the disasters the green lobby and AGW scientists are predicting as very likely within the lifetime of those entering the world at the moment – if we don’t drastically change our ways.

Steve Reddish
November 27, 2018 2:03 pm

“When used as snarl words, these words are essentially meaningless; most of them can be used with meaning, but that seldom happens.”

This is where Rational Wiki gets it wrong. I have always used CAGW as a literal label describing a particular body of speculation about man’s influence on our climate. I have never witnessed another skeptic using CAGW differently. I certainly have never used that term to refer to a person, as CAGWist isn’t in my vocabulary.

I think this claim by Rational Wiki is another example of projection. The people writing it use snarl words frequently (denialist) and assume others do too.

Additionally, this is an attempt to weaken the power of the term “CAGW” by gutting it of meaning.

SR

Bear
November 27, 2018 2:04 pm

Sigh, more leftist “Newspeak”. If the climate change caused by anthropogenic released CO2 is not catastrophic then why are we spending billions to stop it? This is another attempt to deny anyone who disagrees with a leftist position the use of words that specifically define what they are talking about. Similar to saying that some one can’t be racist because they’re a “person of color”.

Alan Ranger
November 27, 2018 2:37 pm

For a long time I’ve used the rather more honest (and simpler) acronym:
C6 – Capitalist Caucasian Caused Catastrophic Climate Change

Why not just call it for what it is?

n.n
Reply to  Alan Ranger
November 27, 2018 3:51 pm

So-called “White” privilege. Been there, done that. The “religious” philosophy of diversity or color judgments is so early to mid-twentieth century.

Alan Ranger
Reply to  n.n
November 28, 2018 1:35 pm

But still implicitly evident in all things “climate change” well into the 21st century. Sad.

Steve O
November 27, 2018 2:47 pm

I think I have this figured out.

For political purposes and to affect public policy, the scaremongering will go on. Catastrophic consequences… worse than we thought… 97% consensus… that’s all good.

But there are some serious people who want to remain silent about the abusive exaggeration of their work for political purposes without being held accountable. They want to whisper their objections from the mountaintop. Preferably one that is remote where no one will hear.

Thomas Black
November 27, 2018 3:12 pm

The whole basis of climate alarmisim is: AGW will be catatsrophic.
If only denialists use it, per Wiki, then why does skeptical science use it?

LdB
Reply to  Thomas Black
November 27, 2018 4:28 pm

It’s pretty simple if it isn’t catastrophic then there is no imperative to act, we can consider the advice and think about it for a while. Put that to them and watch them react because you only have x years to save the world 🙂

Michael Carter
November 27, 2018 3:54 pm

I was hoping for a topic in which to post the following:

Within the last 24 hours the Stuff mainstream news media (biggest in New Zealand) have come out with this editorial

https://i.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/108819497/quick-save-the-planet-we-must-confront-climate-change

A couple of extracts:

“Mature adults can disagree about the impact of climate change and how we should react. We’ll feature a wide range of views as part of this project, but we won’t include climate change “scepticism”. Including denialism wouldn’t be “balanced”; it’d be a dangerous waste of time. The experts have debunked denialism, so now we’ll move on.”

“Stuff accepts the overwhelming scientific consensus that climate change is real and caused by human activity. We welcome robust debate about the appropriate response to climate change, but do not intend to provide a venue for denialism or hoax advocacy. That applies equally to the stories we will publish in Quick! Save the Planet and to our moderation standards for reader comments.”

They do give opportunity for readers to comment on most articles. I have put in a few comments lately using our official weather data to demonstrate that their claims that there are now more droughts, floods, storms and tide surges due to climate change are false. A number have not been published.

Now they have come out and said clearly that they will not publish any views or evidence that counter the global warming narrative.

I am quite shocked actually as this has never been the way in NZ. It a sad day for our country.

I admire you white knights that willingly expose yourselves to the viciousness of the GW lobby. I have had a taste of it myself of late and are now relieved that I will never again post a comment on the Stuff network.

I was only relaying official data !

Regards to all

Michael C

EdB
Reply to  Michael Carter
November 27, 2018 4:16 pm

When good people do nothing… you know what happens next. If you love your country, please persevere.

November 27, 2018 4:58 pm

So, what was the original intent of this article? Was this an assignment where some sum total of words were necessary, e.g. 5,000 words?

Stuffed single space block text with critical points, statements and claim buried deep and smothered in unnecessary words.
I fully agree with “George Daddis November 27, 2018 at 12:00 pm

Then there is the confusing method where footnotes document partial statements. That is, to further understand this statement read this linked source.

Then there is the absurd claim; “Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming” and especially it’s acronym “CAGW” are “snarl” terms… Bogus!

Is the current period of climate warming?
Yes, thank God! Though that is another snarl term to many blame mankind devotees.
Ergo; “Global Warming” to describe our current cycle of climate. Though as more and more alarmists realize that the climate ain’t warming according to their religions, they are desperately trying to rephrase their term to the utterly meaningless “climate change”.

It would be dang frightening if the climate cycle starts cooling!!

IPCC and many many of the alarmists desperately want to blame mankind for 100% of the warming.
Ergo; “Anthropogenic Global Warming”.
Even though $Billions have been spent without proving that attribution to mankind.

None of the governmental, NGO, activists and their organizations appear to need factual proof of attribution to mankind.

Which brings up “Catastrophic”!
The entire alarmist medley desperately want to gloss over any of the proofs! Whether CO₂ caused all of the warming and specifically that it is anthropogenic CO₂ causing all of the warming are topics alarmists spin themselves dizzy, trying to distract others from investigating.

Here, “Catastrophe” serves both as a strawman distraction and also as rallying cries!
Name virtually any study that mentions CO₂, and that study inevitability claims some version of armageddon to wildlife. In fact it is a well known ‘de rigeur’ statement to achieve easy publishing and future grants.

Many of these studies are promptly represented in the world’s compliant complicit mass media with lurid catastrophic headlines.

Now apparently, mass media and alarmists want to further censor those the alarmists call “deniers”, a truly repulsive abhorrent term. Once again, pot, kettle, whatever are projecting their darkness onto others.

The real reason?
When alarmists issue another catastrophic headline or attribute unfortunate weather events to catastrophic climate, they do not want the honest to accurately frame their deceptions as CAGW.

Alarmists know it’s the truth and it hurts!

BallBounces
November 27, 2018 5:03 pm

I like to use CACA — Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Aggravation — as a more organic, earthy term.