I’ve always thought 350.org founder Bill McKibben was a bit off, but with this op-ed in the Guardian, he’s really made the case for it.
The Trump administration knows the planet is going to boil. It doesn’t care
Bill McKibben
n the cloud of toxic dust thrown up by the Kavanaugh hearings last week, two new Trump initiatives slipped by with less notice than they deserve. Both are ugly, stupid – and they are linked, though in ways not immediately apparent.
In the first, the administration provided the rationale for scrapping President Obama’s automobile mileage standards: because Trump’s crew now officially expects the planet to warm by 4C . In the environmental impact statementthey say it wouldn’t make much difference to the destruction of the planet if we all keep driving SUVs.
The news in that statement is that administration officials serenely contemplate that 4C rise (twice the last-ditch target set at the Paris climate talks). Were the world to actually warm that much, it would be a literal hell, unable to maintain civilizations as we have known them. But that’s now our policy, and it apparently rules out any of the actions that might, in fact, limit that warming. You might as well argue that because you’re going to die eventually, there’s no reason not to smoke a carton of cigarettes a day.
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This will, of course, get steadily worse in the years ahead – every climate forecast shows deserts spreading and water evaporating across the region. And of course more migration will follow, in every corner of the world. The World Bank predicts we may see 140 million climate migrants before long, and given the chaos that even a million people fleeing the (partially drought-fueled) crisis in Syria created, we better come to grips. Some of that migration will be internal – perhaps six million people will abandon their coastal property in Florida alone, according to recent reports. And much of it will be international, as people flee because their lives depend on it.
Telling people to stay home is not an option – when there’s no water, or when the floods come each year, or when the sea rises into your kitchen, people have to leave. Period.
And telling people to stay home is not a moral option, either. Because the climate chaos setting off waves of refugees is born above all from the unconstrained migration of carbon dioxide molecules from America over the last century. No wall can prevent the exhaust from our armada of oversized cars from raising the temperature in Mexico; if Guatemala could ship its changed climate back north it doubtless would, but it can’t. We have to realize that global warming stems from the fact that we are a world without atmospheric borders, where the people who have done the least to cause the problem feel its horrors first and hardest. That’s why, over the last half-decade, the environmental and migrant-rights movement have grown ever closer.
The Trump years are a fantasy land where we pretend we can go on living precisely as in the past, unwilling even to substitute electric SUVs for our gas guzzlers, and able to somehow insist that the rest of the world stay locked in place as well. It’s impractical, it’s unfair, and when it ends up with camps for kids in the desert it’s downright evil.
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Wow.. what a rant that has no factual basis. These guys would make great fiction writers.
If the planet boils, it will reach 100 degrees Celsius and will go no higher. Therefore, it can’t get any worse. At that point, we will (mercifully) be spared of the “it’s worse than we thought” rant. Be grateful!
Pro Tip for McKibben: Evaporation is endothermic.
SEPP has an award called the Jackson. Named after Ken Hapala asked for names I was first to recommend Obummer’s first EPA chief for the award before it carried her name.
Anthony we need a STRAIGHT JACKET AWARD and I nominate Bill McKibben as the first recipient.
Perhaps we could call it the CRAZY BILL MAC AWARD.
What Electric SUV’s???
Do you mean those $120,000 Teslas???
That would be an electric coal-burner SUV in my neighborhood.
Don’t knock Elon… he is a true climate warrior providing electric super cars for the super rich… Now if he could build one for $15,000 with the same performance….
No, sorry, very BAD ficton writers. God fiction must be convincing, this is the opposite.
Your typo makes your comment even better.
To describe what McKibben’s atrocious writing should aspire to as “God fiction” is priceless!
“god fiction” is redundant.
Seems every story must mention Hitler (done!) or God. Even when its about electric SUV’s.
God exists and cannot fail to exist (depending of course on various definitions).
Too lazy to look up who said it, but “truth is stranger than fiction. Fiction has to make sense”.
I thought he already was.
Indeed, the suggestion that weeping Mac may has lost his mind ( like it’s current news ) is preposterous and blatantly false.
It happened long ago.
That he continues to spout this hysterical nonsense simply means that he not in a suitable state of mind to be released into the community in the near future.
No way. Bill lacks imagination, irony and any kind of critical sense. It would be a very boring book.
abc aus rn this am had flimflm flannery on stating as fact that oceans jhad risen and caused strife along with a huge pile of other bulldust
fawning announcer accepts it as godgiven truths
he on air cos the korean jaunt is underway
and they have to stir the pot..again
around 730ish am so if anyone needs an emetic you can podcast the pukemaking repeat
” … – every climate forecast shows deserts spreading and water evaporating across the region.”
Whereas, reality shows the world greening.
This guy’s fractured logic is scary. He’s not much removed from the stereotype guy on the corner with the end of the world sign.
“” … – every climate forecast shows deserts spreading and water evaporating across the region.”
Whereas, reality shows the world greening.”
Yes, and to most people, even scientists (with their inside voices) would say: “Perhaps…the models are wrong?”
As they say, a liberal is someone who sees something work in practice, but doesn’t believe because it shouldn’t work in theory.
Touché!
Yes, the same sort of ‘science’ that says bumble bees shouldn’t be able to fly. If the could figure out how to implement it, I’m sure they would be fining the miscreant bees for defying their ‘settled science’.
Stop Catastrophic Global Buzzing!
Ah, finally we know why bees were disappearing* it’s because the “settled science” crowd told them they shouldn’t be able to fly and the bees realized they were right!
*actually the disappearing bees story was just one more catastrophic fiction.
Or conversely, someone who thinks something should work in theory, and ignores every case of it not working in practice. See: anyone with a pseudo-intellectual love affair with socialism.
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. 🙂
They may be right, but my perception is that a liberal(progressive) is someone with a solution, continuously walking around looking for the problem that fits their self-important unique solution.
When enough liberals get together, with like solutions, you can be sure they will find (or create) their prerequisite problem.
At this point in time, in the USA, there are too many different “solutions” floating around in the liberal community to coalesce into (what their emotionally limited abilities see as) a common problem.
So, they will lost the last election. Hopefully they won’t find a common solution before the next election.
The problem with Left types and their ‘solutions’ is the co-operation they require is at odds with their prime driving belief that ‘Everything would be better if only *I* was in charge’.
What then happens is one of two things.
– Their house of support cards they built up collapses and they scuttle back into being fringe minority groups with memberships of 6,
or
– physical violence.
The first is normally an irritation. The second can spill over to ruin everyone.
Comparing Marx’s view of economics to Adam Smith’s, I would say that pretty much sums it up!
May his Christmas tree have Pine Bark Beetles.
Wait until Tucker Carlson gets ahold of this.
The difference is that the guy on the street corner is probably broke, but McKibben is making 1 million + each year off his catastrophic messiah act.
You wouldn’t think people would drink a lethal dose of acid laced kool-aid, that even their children would be screaming and hiding in fear from, but they do and force it down their children’s throats.
” He’s not much removed from the stereotype guy on the corner with the end of the world sign.”
…. he’s the same one….
“…every climate forecast shows deserts spreading and water evaporating across the region…”
Yep, that is what the climate forecasts, based upon inaccurate models, predict. Yet actual satellite observance show the greening of the Sahel and the rest of the globe. So I have a tricky decision, believe the computer models or believe what I can see with my own eyes.
If the only thing you’ve ever seen is a computer screen, or the evening news, or the videos in your school, then the need to make a choice isn’t apparent.
Bubble people?
Totally isolated from interacting with the real world?
Never feel the sun?
Never feel the wind?
Never touch rain?
Never feel the air dry one off?
Never walk through grass covered with dew?
Never visit the sea? And notice the lack of change?
Never walk through snow or go snow skiing?
etc. etc.
Except for bubble people and alarmists remaining wilfully ignorant, most people can trust their senses and rely upon history to know life will continue.
I had a Rod McKuen flashback reading what you wrote 🙂
Read the short SF story “The Machine Stops,” by E.M. Forster. Pretty sure it’s online.
“So I have a tricky decision, believe the computer models or believe what I see with my own LYING eyes”. There. FIFY.
You’re right. He’s definitely not playing with a full deck.
Bill’s emoji
🔥🌡😵🌡🔥
⚠🥨-🧠⚠
maybe?
They both probably deserve a couple of “plusses” but, since I don’t have a cell phone or do “emoji”s, I don’t know what in the (Bill’s vision of the future) you said. 8- )
(The pretzel minus the pink brain-thingy really threw me.)
For those that can’t see it, the Bill’s emoji shows
fire
a thermometer
an open mouthed face
another thermometer and
more fire.
How about the pile of steaming you know what.
reality is these liars have ruined the concept of “science”……they have credentials but NOT ONE ounce of sense or integrity
McKibben, based upon his personal history, has only ever been a propagandist.
To be both scientist and activist reveals a conflict of interest and leads to researchers being considered unscrupulous in methodology, tainted by confirmation bias.
My understanding is that he was an English/journalism major who took to writing environmental fiction. He’s no scientist, activist, yes.
Even of he had the proper credentials to be a scientist, his being an activist means he’s no scientist. You can’t be both. Science is impartial, activism is not.
I think they already lowered the bar when the allowed cartoonists to be considered Subject Matter Experts in climate change.
It was just a matter of time before journalists followed the economic bread crumbs.
UNFCCC
Articles:
Search results: 350.org
https://unfccc.int/gcse?q=350.org
Provides some insight on the 350.org?
The latest (as of 9/5/2018) “preliminary” number at “Earth’s CO2” is 406.99 ppm, measured at Mona Loa.
https://www.co2.earth/
I suggest a name change: co2.dearth
Average co2 June 2016 407.9
Average co2 June 2017 402.6
Average co2 June 2018 403.4
K30 1% datalogger at 19° 11′ 38″ S 146° 40′ 31″ E. 60% airflow onto western Pacific shore line.
Memba back in the ’90s when we were all going to fry? That was the good weather.
Scalloped, fried, baked, or boiled. Poached, blanched, blackened or broiled. How many flavors of projected planet cooking have we gone through so far?
Every day is now Popcorn Day, when reading such buncombe.
bunkum?
Peter: Buncombe was a town in North Carolina from which the term arose.
Buncombe County, actually.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buncombe_County,_North_Carolina
The epithet arose from the verbose politician from those parts who often began his tiresome speeches with, “Back in Buncombe County…” And the phrase grew from his colleagues rolling their eyes while uttering, “What a load of buncombe!” or just “bunk!” for brevity.
Excellent. I live in Nebraska and we grow the best popcorn in the world.
McKibben must prefer the 85% of the past million years, glacial periods when life was difficult and brutal, to the brief interglacials when life flourished. His ignorance that we are now in the coldest 1,000-year period of the past 10,000 years has to be willful; no even casual student of recent climate change is that uninformed.
“Thou shall not inform thyself beyond the climatariat approved media pablum!”
“History is moot! CO2 will change what it should have been!”
(the 2nd quote was my wife’s cousin. brilliant, eh?)
McKibben is completely nuts. He needs to be in a rubber room.
@BillTaylor, Mr McKibbon has not only ruined the concept of “science” but ignored the definition of “boil”.
How could you not believe everything McKibben says about climate? He is after all an English major from Harvard. As we see daily with so many of our Congressmen and Senators who are Harvard (or Yale) grads they are just so smart, honest and by gosh, just the best people in the world. They (and McKibben) only want the best for all of us. Pure altruism.
I think the world could use a few less Ivy leaguers in gov’t.
I was more surprised to learn the Trump people expect 7°F warming by 2100.
Thomas Englert October 2, 2018 at 6:50 pm
I was more surprised to learn the Trump people expect 7°F warming by 2100.
Thomas,
I followed the link and found a graph from the environmental impact statement which showed 4 scenarios relating to CO2 and temperature (http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/documents/national/national-highway-traffic-safety-administrations-2100-climate-scenario/3218/).
It showed about 3.7 degrees C warming – RCP8.5. Another model they displayed showed 4.2.
I saw NO statement as to which model or scenario they believed to be true.
Imagine what life would be like if Minnesota and Saskatchewan were more like Louisiana and North Carolina. What a living hell. All that golfing.
Living in NC I can vouch for that.
Right now (Oct 2, 2018 1:19PM Eastern) Raleigh is 81F with a balmy light breeze out of the south … Calgary, Alberta is 31F with snow showers. Lows tonight: Raleigh 66F Calgary 20F.
Calgary is expecting 15” of snow before the system moves out tomorrow afternoon. It’s a “freak fall snowfall”. In 2014 we got one September 14. Since this one is Oct. 2, McKibben would say it’s proof of global warming.
Maybe that should disqualify them from government jobs? Or any jobs?
Better get him a strait-jacket and find a padded cell to put him in.
so…we’re all going to die…the US has to do it all
…over 200 countries can pollute all they want
No more traiffs…let China do all the manufacturing…they can do it so much cheaper without any of those annoying environmental regulations
…and it’s always the US that has to change
Yeah it’s funny how the British Guardian kind-of blames Trump for Germany, China not doing anything efficient. US emissions are on the decline, after all. Not small yet, but in decline.
And pay for the privilege.
It IS going to get drier, and wetter, and hotter, and colder, and more snow, and less snow, and more hurricanes, and fewer hurricanes, we predicted it, but not sure when, but before long, must act now, send money, and you give up luxuries, but not me…
McKibbon even looks like the village idiot.
Yeah.
And the internet means the the V I now goes global.
No longer constrained by Parish boundaries and ASBO’s.
Bill McKibben is so dumb he thinks that the World’s water is disappearing as a result of Climate Change. He has apparently never heard of the Hydrological Cycle.
Yeah, as if evaporation is the only thing water does.
Syrians shipped because of climate. Really ?? Ithought it had more to do with Assad dropping chemical bombs on them that motivated the departure
Sheesh, what made you think that, bit naive.
The one question everyone should ask about the migrants coming to Europe is :-
Why are there no families just single men in their 20s/30s claiming to be schoolboys? If it was a real problem it would be everyone surely!
You imply that he once had a mind to lose. 😐
“What a terrible thing to have lost one’s mind. Or not to have a mind at all. How true that is.” – D.Q.
McKibben is nuts. That’s all that needs to be said about his yammering.
McKibben is nuts. That’s all that needs to be said about his yammering.
“A bit off”?
That is, if a bit off means outside the orbit of Saturn.
Astronomically speaking yes, but that’s a bit long way for an electric car.
A trip across town is “a bit long way for an electric car.”
Make no mistake, America’s contribution to the world has been overwhelmingly positive. But then you get these weirdos coming out of that whole tradition of preachers of the apocalypse. We can only hope that America’s strong traditions of free speech allow an open debate.
The 2022-25 mileage standard would of led to people driving Obama coffins. Anyone familiar with the US highway accidents statistics knows that subcompact cars kill
CAFE began with small numbers and the numbers have increased over time. Start with small requirements and then keep increasing the “demands”. A way to things get done.
Also Demand-side Management.
It reads as a satire, almost.
One wonders what Bill’s feelings will be when it finally dawns on him that the planet won’t boil and that the Trump administration is actually the only one in the western world that puts sensible energy policies in place.
I think the venerable TV star will hold onto his doctrines and ride the “west coast climate express” until it crashes or runs out of fuel. He will change his story only when it becomes more lucrative to do so.
Oops, I was multitasking and got off on a Bill Nye tangent! sorry.
Too many Bills connected to fighting climate.
You mean, like 50s and 100s?
People hold on tight to their delusions.