Gov. Brown’s phony “climate summit” conceals global wide increased use of fossil fuels and rejection of climate alarmism energy policy

Guest essay by Larry Hamlin

Gov. Brown’s “Global Climate Action Summit” held in San Francisco during the week of September 10, 2018 should really have been labeled the “Global Climate Hype Summit”.

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California government is totally lost in a make believe world of scientifically unsupported climate alarmism propaganda coupled with costly unreliable renewable energy advocacy.

Gov. Brown’s climate confab amounted to nothing but a bunch of hype, smoke and mirror schemes devoid of any semblance of actionable data, defined plan of action or measurable goals or targets.

The climate confab ignored the overwhelming fact that the world has embraced increased use of fossil fuels including coal, natural gas and oil as clearly demonstrated by global energy data.

Also ignored was the fact that the world is increasingly ignoring and abandoning costly unreliable renewable energy mandates and subsidizes as well as meaningless emissions reduction targets which have no measurable impact on global temperatures.

Additionally attendees at the confab pretended that global climate models can define global climate outcomes when the UN IPCC itself acknowledges that these models are incapable of projecting global climate and therefore completely inadequate for use in defining global climate policy.

The clumsy and poorly defined schemes addressed at the “summit” will only drive up energy costs dramatically and penalize lower income populations of California and elsewhere and end up doing absolutely nothing that has any global energy or climate consequence whatsoever.

Media like the L. A. Times wrote numerous fawning articles reflecting the propaganda and hype spouted at the “summit” with these articles representing further proof of how out of touch with reality the media is regarding global climate and energy issues.

Gov. Brown huffed and puffed that his confab was “global” noting that:

“Governor Brown stressed that the San Francisco conference was meant to be a global summit, and he is leading it with foreign representatives like Xie Zhenhua, China’s chief climate negotiator, and Anand Mahindra, a prominent Indian industrialist.”

The confab however never addressed any energy use data for either China or India reflecting their energy use growth over the last 15 years or their future projected energy use with energy use in both these periods demonstrating these countries commitments to growing use of fossil fuels and particularly coal fuel as highlighted in the energy data shown below.

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Additionally huge increases in the use of coal fuel for electricity production by Asia Pacific countries in the period of the last decade were ignored and hidden from view at Gov. Brown’s climate confab.

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Also ignored at Brown’s climate hype propaganda “summit” was the fact that the largest future global energy growth will occur in the Asia Pacific region and that fossil fuels not renewables will provide the great majority of this increased energy demand including coal fuel.

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The failure to address well documented and available global energy use data at the Brown confab was clearly indicative of its purely political propaganda role devoid of any relevance or intention to address meaningful action steps or plans that would have any global consequence. These failures were papered over with ridiculous media hype in articles about the confab including such illuminating statements as:

“This is a very odd challenge we have,” Brown said in an interview in his office. “It is coming at us from all over the planet. Everyone is contributing and everyone has got to do something to combat it. It is a totally unique world challenge, never before faced. There is nothing like this.”

“This is like rolling a gigantic boulder up Mt. Everest,” Brown said. “And we are at the bottom.”

“If you have any kind of a meeting that is big enough to create a social and political splash, you end up with the question of did it accomplish enough,” said Jonathan Pershing, who was U.S. special climate envoy during the Obama administration. The myriad incremental measures put on the table in San Francisco, he said, will add up.”

“Signs of climate action are sprouting at the municipal level, too. More than 70 cities including Atlanta, Denver and Orlando have signed onto a goal of buying enough renewable power to offset all of their electricity consumption, though many mayors are now  pondering how to pull that off.”

Also unaddressed at Brown’s confab were recent moves by China to reduce solar and wind subsidizes which have created chaos in trying to address any reliable future planning for these resources as reflected in the comments of a recent article:

“The new policy brings the industry to a crossroads. During the 12th Five Year Plan period (2011-2015) subsidies were paid late and there was significant wastage of both solar and wind power. Those lessons should have been learned by now, says Meng Xiangan, deputy director of the China Renewable Energy Society. To avoid a repeat, the sector can either lobby for an extension of subsidies and continue its rapid and unsustainable expansion, or accept that new capacity will face a tougher challenge on costs.”

“Without subsidies there’s no return on investment for over a decade, so investors and property owners aren’t interested in distributed solar.” China’s Photovoltaic Industry Association expects to see 30-35 gigawatts of new solar capacity in 2018, a drop of 43% on last year.”

 

This retrenchment in moving away from government mandates for renewables comes at the same time as China is once again increasing its use of coal fuel as noted in another recent article:

“The finding this month by the Paris-based International Energy Agency (IEA) came as an international group of climate scientists blamed an increase in China’s coal consumption for the first big rise in global greenhouse gas emissions since 2013.

The warning from the Global Carbon Project of a two-percent jump in 2017 emissions coincided with the IEA’s release of its long-range energy forecast and its first in-depth China analysis in the past 10 years.

In its 2017 Global Carbon Budget, the scientists’ group cited a projected three-percent rise in China’s coal use this year and a 3.5-percent increase in emissions as causes of the climate setback after three years of relative stability.”

These circumstances clearly demonstrates how idiotic Brown’s claims are regarding his often hyped claim that his global partner China is leading the world in “fighting climate change”.

The confab talked often about how EV’s were so important in meeting future emissions reduction in the global transportation sector but once again failed to provide any data whatsoever regarding this pipe dream. The global transportation energy use data below shows how unimportant EV’s are to the future energy needs of the global transportation sector.

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At the confab Brown once again highlighted his new bill pushing a globally meaningless and completely unachievable pipe dream of 100% clean energy by 2045 for California with more nonsense about huge unrealistic numbers of EV’s for the state. An L. A. Times article noted:

“On Monday, Governor Brown signed a bill that would require California’s utilities to get 100 percent of their electricity from zero-carbon sources by 2045. He has also set a goal of putting 5 million electric cars on the road by 2030 while dedicating $2.5 billion to vehicle rebates and charging infrastructure.”

“Electric vehicles account for 5% of cars sold in California and 1% nationwide.”

“But it is a much tougher sell in America, even in California. A state legislative proposal this year to ban the sale of new gas powered cars and trucks by 2040 went nowhere.

“You want me to issue a press release saying, ‘No more combustion engines’?” Brown said in an interview Monday. “There are 32 million in California. It doesn’t work that way. We have to provide an alternative…. We have to get that in place.”

A New York Times article exposed how globally insignificant Brown’s climate alarmist audience really is when it noted:

“Only 16 states and Puerto Rico have actually promised to uphold the Paris agreement. Most of those states are led by Democrats, and efforts to persuade Republican-‐‑led states like Ohio or Texas to join have been largely unsuccessful”.

Gov. Brown ended his little climate soiree by announcing that the state will launch its own satellite to investigate climate change but as was everything else in this “summit” this scheme was just more hype without any specifics as noted in a Times article.

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“The state will develop the satellite with the San Francisco-based Earth imaging firm Planet Labs, a company founded by ex-NASA scientists in 2010. California may ultimately launch multiple satellites into space, according to the governor’s office. The California Air Resources Board is in the process of developing the monitoring technology used by the satellite. No date has been set for the launch, but it will probably be several years away.”

The Brown “summit” was nothing but a bunch of climate alarmist and renewable energy propaganda hype of no practical global significance whatsoever other than to demonstrate how much news print can be wasted on such a bunch of complete drivel. Any pretense that a relationship existed between this “summit” and global energy and climate reality was clearly demonstrated to be nonexistent.

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September 20, 2018 8:42 pm

Data Deniers, with their personal jets, cluttering up the airfields are exempt…*SPIT*

R Shearer
September 20, 2018 8:46 pm

From Zerohedge.

Dead Kennedy’s song —-

“I am Governor Jerry Brown
My aura smiles and never frowns
Soon I will be president

Trump power will soon go ‘way
I will be Führer one day
I will command all of you
Your kids will meditate in school
Your kids will meditate in school

California Über Alles
California Über Alles
Über Alles California
Über Alles California

Zen fascists will control you
Hundred percent natural
You will jog for the master race
And always wear the happy face
Close your eyes, can’t happen here
Big Bro’ on white horse is near
The hippies won’t come back, you say
Mellow out or you will pay
Mellow out or you will pay

California Über Alles”

R Shearer
Reply to  R Shearer
September 20, 2018 8:52 pm

David
September 20, 2018 9:28 pm

“Also ignored was the fact that the world is increasingly ignoring and abandoning costly unreliable renewable energy mandates and subsidizes as well as meaningless emissions reduction targets which have no measurable impact on global temperatures.“

Whereas here in Australia we still believe apparently. It’s full steam ahead with solar and wind farms. We have gone from one of the cheapest and reliable grids to the opposite.

Kenji
September 20, 2018 10:39 pm

Yet none of your fancy charts, graphs, math, statistics, or science … moves … me as much as the stern, nay angry lecture I received from some Hollywood Actor with a net worth of $230 million living the jet set life …

https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/actors/harrison-ford-net-worth/

… no … I feel real, real, bad for being all science illiterate and whatnot as chastised by Mr. Ford (is that his REAL name?). He’s made me take real serious stock of my life. Made me question every math class I took, every science class, every graduate level seminar … yep … NONE of them taught me the REAL and TRUE science of Global Warming and my sins against Gaia. Speaking of sins … is Harrison Ford a … Scientologist? Because that would explain a LOT. I am sure Harrison is spending EVERY last dime of his enormous personal wealth … saving the planet. I am certain he has no tax-dodging “Foundations” set up to maintain and increase his wealth. Hell no! THAT would make him a … Capitalist … who should all be stoned to death by the TRULY Faithful Warmists.

NorwegianSceptic
Reply to  Kenji
September 21, 2018 2:45 am

What do you expect from a stuck up, half-witted, scruffy-looking Nerfherder…..? 😉
(Shame, he is/used to be a good actor though).

brians356
Reply to  NorwegianSceptic
September 21, 2018 11:58 pm

He’s also a poor pilot, keeps crashing airplanes.

JMichna
Reply to  Kenji
September 21, 2018 9:57 am

Have to admit, I do enjoy watching all the Indiana Jones’ movies…. too bad Mr Ford chose to reveal his incredible, nay astounding, ignorance of real science.

lee
September 20, 2018 11:28 pm

“On Monday, Governor Brown signed a bill. A $3 bill?.

Sam Pyeatte
Reply to  lee
September 22, 2018 5:14 pm

The Jerry Brown hype is so transparent and self-serving. In a few months he will be out of office due to term limits, and will become nothing more than an invisible aging pensioner…like me.

ngard2016
September 20, 2018 11:29 pm

Here’s the latest 2018 data from Lomborg. Today S&Wind are just 0.8% of TOTAL world energy and this MAY increase to 3.6% by 2040. This is from the EU based IEA.
Brown is indeed Gov Moonbeam, what a delusional fool.
BTW how much do they pay this donkey?

https://climatechangedispatch.com/where-do-we-get-most-of-our-energy-hint-not-renewables/

Tom Abbott
Reply to  ngard2016
September 21, 2018 5:00 am

“Brown is indeed Gov Moonbeam, what a delusional fool.”

Unfortunately, he has a lot of company.

Mike Macray
Reply to  Tom Abbott
September 21, 2018 10:41 am

Tom Abbott:
…“Brown is indeed Gov Moonbeam,…

Brings to mind Gulliver in his Travels to Lagado to visit the scientist who was extracting Sun-beams from Cucumbers…”that he should be able to supply the governor’s gardens with sunshine at a reasonable rate….and intreated me to give him something as an encouragement to ingenuity…”
Gulliver’s Travels by Jonathan Swift (1726).
could Lagado have been Laguna Beach California?
cheers

Barbara
Reply to  Tom Abbott
September 21, 2018 8:56 pm
Barbara
Reply to  Barbara
September 22, 2018 4:42 pm

UNFCCC

Articles on: World Resources Institute (WRI)
https://unfccc.int/gcse?q=World%20Resources%20Institute

Barbara
Reply to  Barbara
September 22, 2018 10:37 pm

UNFCCC

Articles on: United Nations Foundation.
https://unfccc.int/gcse?q=United%20Nations%20Foundation

Reply to  ngard2016
September 21, 2018 10:03 am

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commieBob
September 20, 2018 11:35 pm

I often think about the story of The Emperor’s New Clothes. The point was that the people were cowed into acknowledging the clothing and willingly recanted when it became safe to do so.

The difference here is that a very large segment of the population isn’t being cowed. They really want to believe. They actively try to ignore the elephant in the room. They grasp at the tiniest facts to bolster their belief.

People who believe in CAGW seem to act like conspiracy theorists. It’s pathological. It’s an example of the Madness of Crowds.

How can they ignore the truth about renewable energy? It takes hard work and dedication. It sounds like perseverance but is actually perseveration.

Hamish Grant
September 20, 2018 11:49 pm

Just for fun, I Googled “Lichenstein Paris” &, sure enough, this country of around 38,000 (!!!) has signed the accord. What were they thiking?? I guess this is in perfect accord with Brown’s vaccuous “everyone has to do something” comment.
Anyone care to calculate what impact on Climate Change that a country of 38,000 people would have if they cut emissions by 26% by 2030 or whatever their NDC may be.
Pure madness.

Auto
Reply to  Hamish Grant
September 21, 2018 1:38 pm

Hamish,
I understand that Lichtenstein’s principal products are false teeth [dentures] and postage stamps.
NB – this might be a bit out of date, as it seems possible they now also create climate criminals.

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NorwegianSceptic
September 20, 2018 11:55 pm

”….We have to provide an alternative…. We have to get that in place.” The only sensible thing said. But then, why all the hype?

Jaakko Kateenkorva
September 21, 2018 12:22 am

“This is like rolling a gigantic boulder up Mt. Everest,” Brown said. “And we are at the bottom.”

No wonder. Brown seems unaware the “c” in Einstein’s E=mc² stands for the speed of light, not carbon concentration. In the meanwhile, provided Google’s TGIF meeting in 2016 gave the correct insight, a group hug in a safe space might alleviate his desperation.

Alan Tomalty
September 21, 2018 1:56 am

“This is like rolling a gigantic boulder up Mt. Everest,” Brown said. “And we are at the bottom.”

Only a greenie would think of rolling a boulder up the hill. A capitalist conservative would dynamite it and carry the little pieces up the hill.

RicDre
Reply to  Alan Tomalty
September 21, 2018 5:24 am

“This is like rolling a gigantic boulder up Mt. Everest,” Brown said. “And we are at the bottom.”

I’ve heard this story before, from Wikipedia:

In Greek mythology Sisyphus was the king of Ephyra. He was punished for his self-aggrandizing craftiness and deceitfulness by being forced to roll an immense boulder up a hill only for it to roll down when it nears the top, repeating this action for eternity.

September 21, 2018 2:45 am

My expertise is energy. Cheap, abundant, reliable energy is the lifeblood of society – it IS that simple.

Fossil fuels comprise 85% of global primary energy, the rest is almost all nuclear and hydro. Grid-connected wind and solar power would be ZERO, except for trillions in wasted subsidies.

One of the biggest hidden subsidies is that wind and solar are forced into the grid ahead of dispatchable power. This scheme typically requires costly spinning reserve (backup) power to fill in when the wind dies or sunlight is shielded by clouds.

These “green energy” technologies fail utterly due to intermittency, high cost and lack of cost-effective energy storage.

The leftists get energy entirely wrong, because they are uneducated in science and technology – they believe leftist political fictions instead of proven energy facts. They have proclaimed that they are uneducated and radically politicized.

The leftists believe in anti-fossil-fuel, green-energy idiocy. Fossil fuels keep you and your family from freezing and starving – that is what you need to know.
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Ron Long
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
September 21, 2018 3:21 am

Good comments, Allan. And remember, only wind and solar are allowed to chop up/burn to death our friends the birds and bats. Could you imagine the uproar if a hundred dead birds were discovered at a nuclear power-producing facility? What says Gov Moonbeam about this?

Barbara
Reply to  Ron Long
September 22, 2018 5:05 pm

UNFCCC

Articles on: North American Migratory Bird Treaty.
https://unfccc.int/gcse?q=North%20American%20Migratory%20Bird%20Treaty

Has some information on this topic.

Barbara
Reply to  Barbara
September 22, 2018 5:49 pm

Wikipedia

Migratory Bird Treaty
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Migratory_Bird_Treaty

Includes the parties included in this Treaty which is ~ 100 years old.

Martin557
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
September 21, 2018 9:16 am

I wouldn’t mind a push for Hydro. Save the freshwater from mixing with seawater. The population is exploding and them people are going to need freshwater, build a dam. 😉

Reply to  Martin557
September 21, 2018 4:58 pm

Martin said, “I wouldn’t mind a push for Hydro.”

Greens hate Hydro too, and Nuclear, and Fossil Fuels. Greens are quite delusional about energy, because they hate every energy technology that works and they love all those that don’t work.

Objectively, the Greens should be deemed insane, based on their crazy delusions about energy. But there is another explanation – that Greens are just really stupid sheeple, easily frightened and stampeded by scoundrels for financial gain.

The greatest genius of the 20th Century, Dr. Albert Einstein said:
“Nothing is infinite, except the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the universe.”

The great American philosopher George Carlin said,
“Think about how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of them are stupider than that!”

The leaders of the Green movement know what they are doing – they are the scoundrels – in it for money and personal power.

The followers are the sheeple, in it because they are so stupid they are easily frightened and manipulated.

Nik
September 21, 2018 2:58 am

But, hey, the participants got some nifty tote bags.

(See the lower right-hand corner of the photo from the newspaper, near the end of the article.)

NorwegianSceptic
Reply to  Nik
September 21, 2018 3:19 am

Let’s for (insert favourite deity here)’s sake hope the bags are biodegradable and not made from fossils!

fred250
September 21, 2018 3:16 am

Launching a satellite now, means 30 years before the data becomes viable (according to the 30 years is climate meme)

With the AMO starting to roll of its top, and the Sun in a sleepy mood, the result (before adjustment) will quite likely no be what the loon wanted.

He will of course be long and gone before then.

Steve O
September 21, 2018 3:56 am

It’s time to start referring to wind and solar as cosmetic.

Reply to  Steve O
September 21, 2018 6:16 pm

Steve O wrote:
“It’s time to start referring to wind and solar as cosmetic.”

How about “Fake Energy”.

From the same people who brought you “Fake News”.

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
September 21, 2018 6:38 pm

Allan Macrae must be considered a “Fake Person”
..
Allan considers 10% to be “fake” LAST YEAR https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-energy-renewables/wind-solar-surpassed-10-percent-of-u-s-electricity-in-march-eia-idUSKBN195291

Reply to  Dave Burton
September 21, 2018 7:47 pm

Dave Burton – here is how the politicians reward their friends in green energy industries and drive up costs for everyone. Only a crooked politicians or a green energy minion could be this wrong, this stupid, or this corrupt. Cost numbers have changed, but the corruption remains.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/01/02/aussie-chief-scientist-renewable-energy-push-hurts-the-poor/comment-page-1/#comment-2387168

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This information was true some years ago – I have not heard that it has changed.

In Alberta, we pay electric power producers about 4 cents/KWh for reliable, dispatchable power from fossil fuels, and 20 cents/KWh for unreliable, non-dispatchable wind power.

The wind power generators get their 20 cents whether or not their wind power is needed. IF not needed, we give it away to Washington or British Columbia, reportedly for free.

Best, Allan

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
September 21, 2018 7:56 pm

Forget cost, 10% of the electric power comes from wind and solar period. Tell me how 10% is fake.
.
.
Consider this……take your entire income. Give 10% of it to me, because as you know, 90% of your income is real and 10% of it is fake. Get it?

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
September 21, 2018 8:46 pm

Dave – that is the most idiotic argument I’ve heard i along time.

“Dave, what you just said is the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard.
At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.
Everyone is this room is now dumber for having listened to it.
I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
September 21, 2018 7:33 pm

On Fake Energy

This graph provides strong evidence that Grid-Connected Green Energy is Costly Destructive Nonsense, promoted by scoundrels and imbeciles.

Green energy drives up electricity costs, destabilizes the grid, and increases Winter Deaths, which especially target the elderly and the poor.

Due to intermittency and the need for ~100% spinning reserve backup generation to stabilize the grid, green energy does not even reduce CO2 emissions.

It is imbecilic, costly nonsense.

http://icecap.us/images/uploads/RGGI2.png

E J Zuiderwijk
September 21, 2018 4:02 am

Where I come from we have a saying: the (sea)wall will turn the ship.

However big the ship may be. And when it happens it will give an almighty crash.
There was a report earlier in the month that country folk in the province Drenthe in the
east of the Netherlands were acquiring explosives. To sabotage windfarm projects.

September 21, 2018 4:11 am

Launching a satellite now, means 30 years before the data becomes viable right?

Peta of Newark
September 21, 2018 4:38 am

One might wonder which will hold out the longest: the coal, oil or the dirt…

I’m of the inclination that the dirt will run out first – we see the decline as most of us now have nothing more to eat than nutrient free food – creating nutrient free people, education, politics (as this essay) and nutrient-free science.

Maybe those hapless indigenous folks who’ve been corralled onto a melting pile of sand in the top corner of the Pacific have actually drawn: The Long Straw……

(They are still afloat are they, you know the ones)

Peta of Newark
Reply to  Peta of Newark
September 21, 2018 5:04 am

A nice alternative word for ‘nutrient -free’ might of course be:

‘Fake’

Where’ve I heard *that* word before?
Rather, where’ve I NOT heard that word?

covering also & not least ‘Hypocrisy’

Bruce Cobb
September 21, 2018 4:59 am

“This is like rolling a gigantic boulder up Mt. Everest,” Brown said. “And we are at the bottom.”
Yes, and just as much a complete waste of time and energy (not to mention $$$), as pointless, and as stupid.
Brown envisions himself and his state as “world leaders” in this Climate Campaign, when in fact they are like the Village Idiots. All of this, of course, is in preparation for the Climapalooza coming in December – COP24, in Katowice. Then we’ll be treated to virtue-signalling, posturing, hissy-fits, and uber-hypocrisy, in their ultimate Clown Show of clown shows. Lay in supplies of popcorn now.

Tom Abbott
September 21, 2018 5:11 am

From the article: “The finding this month by the Paris-based International Energy Agency (IEA) came as an international group of climate scientists blamed an increase in China’s coal consumption for the first big rise in global greenhouse gas emissions since 2013.”

Yes, and here in the Good Ole USA, we are reducing our CO2, under that “climate denier” Trump. Perhaps these Alarmist Loons should look to Trump for an example of how to reduce one’s CO2 without going bankrupt.

Of course, if only a portion of the globe reduces CO2, while China and India and others produce as much as they desire, then you are fighting a losing battle to begin with.

It’s pretty amazing to see just how delusional people can get. And it causes them to do really stupid things. I guess that’s to be expected of deluded people. The problem is the rest of us, or many of us, have to live with those stupid decisions made by delusional people.

Ralph Knapp
September 21, 2018 6:51 am

California is not alone with a village idiot at the helm. Here in Canada, we have a bilingual village idiot with a sock fetish in charge. Fortunately, we also have a hard nosed businessman in charge of Canada’s biggest province. His first order of business was to tell the Boy where to stick his carbon tax and put an appointed judge back in his chambers. There’s hope up here.

Lazo
September 21, 2018 7:16 am

The hypocrisy of it all. Flying to SF in gas-guzzling private jets. Most likely gas-guzzling limos from the airport to the conference and back. Petroleum-based signs in the hands of the useful idiots outside protesting, along with the petroleum most used to get there, the petrochemical in the bottles of water they now require to drink and the the resources used to clean-up after themselves.

It’s such a crisis they never seem to walk their talk to tell you to follow their words, little more than temperature-increasing hot air. Perhaps the solution is as simple as duct tape to squelch the hot air of these hypocrites. 3-4 inches is all it will take. Not only will we stop their CO2 belching of hot air but also the parroting cacophony they spew of nonsense, their noise thus squelched. Silence. Making music to my ears!

Edwin
September 21, 2018 8:57 am

My political perspective on Moonbeam and friends: The Gov and his allies are feeding their base. Why? it is midterm election time. California, both in electoral votes and Congressional votes, is politically very powerful. There is some fear among California Dems that they could actually lose seats not gain them. Yet remember that the name of the game in ALL elections is turn out. Ironically it works both ways. What Moonbeam and friends have done right before the election got actually motivate people to come out and vote against the Dems.

Joe Civis
September 21, 2018 9:30 am

uuuhhhhggggg why won’t they listen to themselves…… “If its Brown flush it down!” long past time he was flushed down.

cheers!

Joe

Amber
September 22, 2018 4:01 pm

Moonbeam has decided to play the deflection game . Talk and get all lathered up
about an issue most of the population ranks as a low priority .
Good riddance to this clown . California is due for someone with a brain .