“Kids Say the Darndest Things”… Because Climate Change

Who else remembers this TV show?

One of today’s Real Clear Energy headlines, wholly unrelated to energy, made me think of Kids Say the Darndest Things

Saudi Arabia’s Oil Price Sweet Spot Tsvetana Paraskova, Oil Price
US Will Work With India on Iran Oil Imports Staff, S&P Global Platts
FERC Speeding Up Reviews on LNG Projects James Osborne, Houston Chronicle
China LNG Demand Seen Up 25 Percent in 2018 Staff, Reuters
Senators Look to the Military to Save Nuclear Power John Siciliano, WE
Don’t Risk Lives to Bail Out Coal Mary Anne Hitt, The Post and Courier
America Risks Missing Out on Global Nuclear Revival Varun Sivaram, CFR
CA Takes Financial Wallop From Wildfires Noah Berger & Paul Elias, AP
Wind and Solar ‘Could Green the Sahara’ Matt McGrath, BBC News
Should Companies Still Care About the Paris Climate Agreement? V. Pons, HBS
How Climate Change Affects Young Californians, Youth Radio Reporters, SFC
Fossil Fuel Divestment Debates on Campus Jennie C. Stephens, The Conversation

I figured that How Climate Change Affects Young Californians just had to be a treasure trove of low-hanging fruit, and I was not disappointed.

How climate change affects young Californians

By Youth Radio reporters Sep. 7, 2018

As the Global Climate Action Summit starts in San Francisco this week focused on solutions to climate change, young people in California reflect on their own experiences with a changing climate. Here is a collection of essays coming to you through Youth Radio.



“Valeria Pedroza, 30, Fresno”

Growing up in the heart of California’s Central Valley, I learned to appreciate the agricultural workers who work tirelessly to feed the nation, but living in Fresno also gave me another souvenir: severe acute asthma.    I have been hospitalized more times than I can count for sudden-onset exasperations. Especially during the California fires, it’s not abnormal for me to feel as though I’m breathing through a thin red coffee straw.

Despite countless scientific studies that prove climate change is happening all around the globe, there are still those who refuse to believe humans cause it, or that it even exists.


There are things we can do, however… Plant trees.


Trees burn… They’re not exactly the best fire prevention method.

As a fellow asthmatic, I can state that some of my worst “breathing through a thin red coffee straw” moments occurred around Christmas…

Researchers measured mould counts in a room containing a live Christmas tree, beginning when the tree was brought inside and decorated. Normal indoor air has a mould level of 500–700 spores/cm3, and for the first three days counts remained at 800 spores/cm3, then began escalating rapidly, reaching a level of 5,000 spores/cm3 by day 14, when the tree was removed.

Such high levels have been associated with allergic rhinitis and an increased rate of asthma symptoms, as well as asthma-related hospital admissions.

The Pharmaceutical Journal

And when trees were cranking out pollen…

Pollen allergy symptoms are commonly called “hay fever.” Pollen released by trees, as well as grasses and weeds, cause these symptoms. They include:

  • Runny nose and mucus production
  • Sneezing
  • Itchy nose, eyes, ears and mouth
  • Stuffy nose (nasal congestion)
  • Red and watery eyes
  • Swelling around the eyes

If you have allergic asthma and are allergic to tree pollen, you might also have asthma symptoms while the trees are pollinating.

American Asthma and Allergy Foundation of America

Hey… Be thankful you didn’t grow up in the 1930’s…

National Interagency Fire Center

I’ve noticed that Warmunists don’t care for the National Interagency Fire Center data and routinely dismiss it.  Supporting information can be found in Fire, Historical Perspective, US Forest Service 2003.

Emiliano Villa, 19, Oakland

Coming from the Bay Area, I grew up worrying about the drought. My second-grade teacher was the first person to teach me about water conservation. I started to save water in a bucket while I waited for my shower water to warm up, and reuse it for watering plants. Then, when I was in middle school, California entered the worst drought in recorded history so saving water seemed even more urgent — and routine.


If I have to hold myself accountable for my water consumption, what are our politicians doing to hold corporate farms accountable for theirs?

Recorded history: 

The span of recorded history is roughly 5,000 years, beginning with Sumerian Cuneiform script, the oldest discovered form of coherent writing from the protoliterate period around the 30th century BC.[2]. Ancient History covers all continents inhabited by humans in the 3,000 BC – 500 AD period.


North American Droughts During Recorded History:

Some examples of extended drought periods in the United States include (NOAA n.d.):

Southwestern United States (1200–1300) – An episode known as the Great Drought is believed to have brought an end to the advanced agricultural society that developed among indigenous tribes on the Colorado Plateau by the Anasazi Culture.

Southern United States (ca. 1580) – A “megadrought” is believed to have extended from California to the Carolina during the late 1500s. This drought is believed to have been responsible for the demise of the Lost Colony of Roanoke, first English colony in the Americas.
Midwestern United States (1932–37) – Known as the “dust bowl,” this devastating drought was in part the result of overuse of the American prairie lands. As a result, bare soil was exposed to the prairie winds and blown away. At its peak, this drought covered 70 percent of the country. It caused a massive migration of people from the Midwest to California and brought about the passage of the Soil Conservation Act, which allocated money to farmers to plant soil building crops.

The 1950’s drought (1950–57) – This drought was first felt in the Southwest in 1950 and spread to Oklahoma, Kansas, and Nebraska by 1953. By 1954 the drought encompassed a 10-State area. This drought devastated the region’s agriculture, and crop yields in some areas dropped by 50 percent.

Northeastern United States (1961–66) – This regional drought is considered to be the most severe in modern American history. It affected 14 Northeastern States (7 percent of the continental United States) and 5 million people or 28 percent of the population. Record forest fires occurred in the region in 1963.

Drought of 1987–89 – At its peak, this 3-year drought covered 36 percent of the United States at its peak and is considered to be the costliest natural disaster in U.S. history. The combined losses in energy, water, and agriculture caused by this drought were estimated at $39 billion. The summer of 1988 is well known for the extensive forest fires that burned across Western North America, including the fires in the Greater Yellowstone Basin.

US Forest Service, 2003

Wow!  I was born in Connecticut in 1958.  I was first diagnosed with and hospitalized for asthma in 1963… Must’ve been climate change, drought and forest fires… /SARC  Funny thing… I remember lying in a hospital bed, in an oxygen tent, when I was four years old, but I don’t have any recollection of the most severe drought in modern American history or record forest fires that occurred in 1963.  I guess I wasn’t “woke” back then…(Not that I am now).

Western U.S. droughts in recent history:

Contiguous U.S. droughts in recent history:

Holding farmers accountable for droughts:

We have droughts in Texas, we build out water structure rather than trying to hold the people who feed us accountable.

Texas quadrupled its surface reservoir storage capacity during the 1950’s drought (1950–57).  Texas has responded to the recent ENSO-related droughts by authorizing the construction 26 new major surface reservoirs and other water infrastructure projects.

Maybe you should hold Gov. Moonbeam and the Sacramento Enviro-Lunatic Asylum accountable…

The 10 largest reservoirs in California, linchpins of the water system for 38 million people and the nation’s largest farm economy, were all built between 1927 and 1979. Shasta Lake, the massive inland sea on the Sacramento River near Redding, was finished in 1945. Oroville, the tallest dam in the United States, at 770-feet high on the Feather River in Butte County, was started under Gov. Pat Brown’s building boom in 1961 and finished in 1968.

The last huge reservoir built in California was New Melones, on the Stanislaus River in Calaveras County. Since the Army Corps of Engineers cut the ribbon on it in 1979, California has grown by 15 million people, the equivalent of adding everyone now living in Washington, Oregon and Nevada to the Golden State.

The Mercury News

“Olivia Rodriguez, 25,Thermal, Riverside County”

I remember my mom in the ER with pneumonia a few years ago. Doctors provided my parents a remedy they couldn’t afford: Stop working in the fields to prevent exposure to pesticides. But there’s no escaping the fields — we’re surrounded by them. These same contaminants that are inescapable in my Coachella Valley community have been fed to the Salton Sea for years. Now that the sea is drying and has become a widely known environmental hazard, I know the impact is deadly.

*Now* that the Salton Sea is drying?  The Salton Sea has been drying since it was cut off from the Gulf of California (AKA Sea of Cortez, Vermilion Sea)…

“Isabella Zizi, 24, Richmond”

Someone like me, who grew up in Richmond, can’t enjoy a casual day without having to drop what I’m doing and listen closely to unusual sounds or sirens, or take a moment to question the air I breathe when it starts to smell like rotten eggs, a smell close enough to compare to the smell of sulfur. Every so often, I step on a high pedestal to check up on the Chevron refinery to make sure the “steam” that is being released into the air isn’t a huge black cloud.


If you don’t like living near an oil refinery: MOVE!.  The refinery was there before you were born… Probably before your grandparents were born…

The Chevron Richmond Refinery is a 2,900-acre (1,200 ha) petroleum refinery in Richmond, California, on San Francisco Bay.[1] It is owned and operated by Chevron Corporation and employs more than 1,200 workers,[1] making it the city’s largest employer.[2] The refinery processes approximately 240,000 barrels (38,000 m3) of crude oil a day in the manufacture of petroleum products and other chemicals. The refinery’s primary products are motor gasolinejet fueldiesel fuel and lubricants.[3]


The refinery was established several years before the City of Richmond was incorporated in 1905. Construction on the refinery began in 1901…



“Arthur Kunert, 17, Sacramento”

As a young person, I don’t feel like I have many options to solve the issue, but I hope our elected leaders will think about the future generations when passing laws that can help clean the air.

Hey kid!  Three words: “Clean Air Act“…

Dr. Roy Spencer put it this way:

“Endiya Griffin, 16, San Diego”

I often hear phrases like “reducing our carbon footprints” or “counteracting climate change,” but I didn’t realize how big of a role environmental sustainability has in my life until recently. I realized that we all have our own part in ensuring sustainability.

One of my favorite ways to practice eco-friendly living is by thrifting and upcycling, that is, making new products from unwanted materials.


Dumpster-diving will save us from Gorebal Warming?

Youth Radio, an award-winning national network of journalists and artists, edited this collection of perspectives from across the state collaborating with Coachella Unincorporated, Richmond Pulse, the kNOw, Access Sacramento and the AjA Project.

David Middleton is a petroleum geologist and luke-warmer in the Great State of Texas He has a sarcastic sense of humor and a penchant for shooting down low-hanging fruit… Because it’s fun and easy.  He also doesn’t usually write in the third person… But thought that might be funny too.


The purpose of this post was not to make light of the hardships faced by these young Californians, particularly those whose parents are agricultural workers in the Valley That Hope Forgot.


The purpose was to ridicule the people who dumbed-down our educational system and our news media.  These unfortunate young people have simply been brainwashed into associating every hardship, real or imagined, with “climate change.”  Although, the one who thought dumpster diving was a solution to climate change, really defies any sort of explanation.


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Tom Halla
September 10, 2018 11:15 am

The State of California has led the nation in school systems dysfunction.

September 10, 2018 11:19 am

Children should be seen and not heard.

Reply to  HotScot
September 10, 2018 12:02 pm

Alternatively, according to the BBC latest instructions to journalists climate sceptics should not be seen or heard.

Reply to  Vukcevic
September 10, 2018 2:37 pm


Clearly, climate denialist’s should be neither seen nor heard.

Reply to  HotScot
September 10, 2018 12:34 pm

That should apply to many adults as well.
(My guess is that they are the same ones, just older.)

Joel Snider
Reply to  HotScot
September 10, 2018 12:43 pm

On the other hand, kids are such parrots, listening to them is like eavesdropping on everyone they live with.
A know a woman whose young daughter walked up to her brother-in-law at a family cookout and announced, “My mom says you’re a ****head!”

Tom Abbott
Reply to  HotScot
September 10, 2018 1:00 pm

I wouldn’t consider any of those examples to be “kids”.

Reply to  David Middleton
September 10, 2018 4:11 pm

Kid: noun
Young goat

Greg Cavanagh
Reply to  David Middleton
September 10, 2018 5:33 pm

I kid you not!

Bruce Cobb
September 10, 2018 11:34 am

Children of the Climate Porn.

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
September 10, 2018 12:24 pm


tom s
September 10, 2018 11:39 am

Just so you can see how STUPID the comments section on the Mpls Star Tribune are with respect to Hurricane Florence, read these;

SEP. 10, 18
5:48 PM
Buckle up, more extreme weather coming our way compliments of the GOP.

SEP. 10, 18
4:38 PM
Thoughts and prayers for people not convinced on climate change.

SEP. 10, 18
4:18 PM
I often wonder how many disasters we’re going to face until this repub party acknowledges global warming and how disastrous it will be for this planet?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  tom s
September 10, 2018 1:11 pm

Joe Bastardi is saying today on Hannity that it looks like Florence is going to do a lot of damage. He says it is “coming straight in” and then might get stalled out after landfall by a front moving in from the west which will mean a lot of rain is going to fall, like Harvey did over Texas last year, raining over the same spots for days on end.

Today, September 10, is the heighth of the hurricane season according to my favorite tv weather persons.

No doubt the Alarmists will use this hurricane to promote their cause but there is no evidence CO2 has anything to do with it, and no evidence that CO2 is causing the atmospheric blocking that may cause the pouring rain.

That won’t stop the Alarmists from claiming this is proof of CAGW. To them, any extreme weather event is proof of their religion. They never mention that no major hurricanes hit the U.S. for 12 years after Katrina landed in 2005. Where was CO2 then? It must have taken a vacation.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
September 11, 2018 4:02 am

theres a cyclone( with stronger wind at surface than i see listed for yours)on nullschool earth heading for phillipines
not one word about that?
yet by population more are likely to be hurt and they dont have fema or any way to escape

September 10, 2018 11:41 am

Kids say the Darndest Things

Those were the days — back when life was simple, TV wasn’t political, brain-washing in the schools was only beginning, and democrats were still rational. And Beach Boys vinyl played at the sock-hop.

Greg Cavanagh
Reply to  David Middleton
September 10, 2018 7:59 pm

Right click and open in new window, that still works.

September 10, 2018 11:54 am

Another kid, the oldest of them all, apparently is coming back:
There’s a 70% chance of a recurrence of the El Niño weather event before the end of this year, according to the World Meteorological Organisation.

September 10, 2018 11:56 am

I’m sorry, but I’m not comfortable with exposing these young people to public ridicule on a popular web site like WUWT. Their adult handlers are the ones responsible for planting these ideas in their heads.

Reply to  David Middleton
September 11, 2018 3:43 pm

OK, I’ll let it go. They aren’t small children after all, and people in that age group tend to live a public life on the ‘net anyway.

Sam C Cogar
Reply to  PaulH
September 10, 2018 12:34 pm

So, you are one of those who firmly believe that a child should be at least 19 years old before an adult should criticize their behavior, …….. right?

Reply to  Sam C Cogar
September 10, 2018 12:58 pm

Most of these ‘Youths’ ARE 19 or older.

The Title should have been ‘Millennials say the darnedest things.’


Reply to  David Middleton
September 10, 2018 2:44 pm

David Middleton

Millennials pick on sceptics, which makes them fair game.

David Chappell
Reply to  PaulH
September 10, 2018 1:02 pm

More than half of those quoted are of voting age.

Reply to  David Middleton
September 10, 2018 2:56 pm

David Middleton

Voting age in Scotland is now 16 years old.

No wonder the place is a socialist paradise. Most people under 30 think socialism is a really good idea.

I wouldn’t trust my own kids with a vote and one of them is 24 with a Masters degree. She still knows fuck all. Just about to get her first job and start to learn the realities of life.

I can only help, if she’ll listen.

Reply to  HotScot
September 11, 2018 9:26 am

As Romney noted, it’s hard to sell a policy of lower taxes to people who don’t pay taxes.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  PaulH
September 10, 2018 1:02 pm

They have made public statements, and those statements are most certainly open to public ridicule. They need to know that there are consequences to what they are saying, some which they may not like. Tough noogies. Welcome to the real world.

John F. Hultquist
Reply to  PaulH
September 10, 2018 8:35 pm

See “Jay Walking” with Jay Leno

Bob Denby
Reply to  PaulH
September 11, 2018 8:12 am

Exposing them is an important reminder that their teachers are feeding them this nonsense, and holding them responsible for retaining it.

September 10, 2018 12:01 pm

Propaganda is a powerful tool that is used to brainwash Americas youth.

Joel Snider
Reply to  Pathway
September 10, 2018 12:50 pm

Unfortunately, not just America’s – I’m assured by the warmist trolls on board that AGW is a given in ‘almost every other country’ – that apparently being a big selling point.

September 10, 2018 12:02 pm

I also have severe cases of “sudden-onset exasperations”.
Happens every time I see a picture of Michael Mann. 😉

September 10, 2018 12:11 pm

“young people in California reflect on their own experiences with a changing climate”..

….it’s been remarkably stable

Not a one of them have seen climate change at all.

Joel Snider
Reply to  Latitude
September 10, 2018 12:48 pm

That’s what all those virtual reality computer simulations are for.

Reply to  Latitude
September 10, 2018 3:18 pm


A blast from the past. I remember life in Scotland in the late 60’s/early 70’s. We had some cold winters, nothing like Canada, but enough that we could skate or Curl on almost any Loch in the country from late December until around mid February.

Then it pretty well stopped from mid to late 70’s and my local Loch was never again safe to skate or Curl on. Of course, that was my initial confirmation of global warming when the phrase hit the headlined in the 80’s, and I bought it hook line and sinker based on my anecdotal, but observational evidence.

The climate change fireworks will happen if, over the next 30 or 40 years, perhaps less, the world does lose a bit of heat, and places on the margins, like the UK, begin to enjoy ‘Dickensian’ winters again. The millennials will realise they have been conned and the backlash will be epic.

They will all recall the balmy conditions they were promised and instead, will have to endure the snow and ice we loved in our youth. They will hate it because they were sold an expectation that never materialised.

Gary Ashe
Reply to  HotScot
September 10, 2018 6:07 pm

”will have to endure the snow and ice we loved in our youth”

You may have loved it, i certainly didnt.

Reply to  HotScot
September 11, 2018 10:03 pm

And then they will have to contribute to climate change in order to avoid dying of hypothermia.

John the Econ
September 10, 2018 1:32 pm

If young Californians think their plight is bad now, just wait until their “all green” power grid rivals the 3rd world for reliability and the net-producers who can afford to leave are gone and are totally replaced with the net-consumers and the state economy collapses.

Reply to  John the Econ
September 11, 2018 2:42 pm

The Alarmists will blame the new plight on climate change; and the millennials will believe it.

Stephen Skinner
September 10, 2018 1:45 pm

‘Total Acres Burned…’ graph is OK but it doesn’t begin on zero on the right, thus giving a false impression of a massive rise in CO2. The CO2 half of this then becomes a ‘Gee-Whiz Graph’ as described in the book ‘How to Lie with Statistics’ by Darrell Huff (1954).

Reply to  Stephen Skinner
September 10, 2018 2:39 pm

The baseline is around 300 (280 if you want to go back further). The rise is the anthropogenic component, so it’s entirely consistent.

brad tittle
Reply to  David Middleton
September 14, 2018 9:07 am

Not starting from zero IS incorrect. It is abuse of the 0. At what point is there 0 carbon in the atmosphere?
Once upon a time numberwatch.co.uk had a nice discussion of chartmanship. NOT starting at zero is one of the great sins.

My professors in college bled on my pages for not starting at 0. I didn’t understand until later why.

If you start from 0, you can see the actual rate of change at a glance. Since EVERYONE these days (including many skeptics) fails to start at 0, they are effectively lying. The person they lie to the most is themselves.

We can debate whether we should start temperature graphs at 0C, 0F, 0K, or 0R and when it is appropriate to use which. In general 0K and 0R are what you should use.

September 10, 2018 2:08 pm

In all things, be nice.
Or at least conceal the weapons.

Gunga Din
September 10, 2018 3:42 pm

“Who else remembers this TV show?”

I remember it. (It would seem that I’m older than you.)

Here’s a “blooper”.
He asked a kid, “Who do you look like? Your Mommy or your Daddy?”
The kid, “I don’t look like my Mommy or my Daddy. I look like the Mailman.”

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Gunga Din
September 10, 2018 9:43 pm

That was a good show. Lots of good laughs like that because kids *do” say the darndest things. 🙂

Michael Jankowski
September 10, 2018 6:00 pm

“…If I have to hold myself accountable for my water consumption, what are our politicians doing to hold corporate farms accountable for theirs?…”

You don’t have to hold yourself accountable. You chose to.

And the suggestion that “corporate farms” are just wasting water willy-nilly is absurd.

Patrick MJD
September 10, 2018 6:03 pm

Mould spores are nasty for everyone not just sufferers of asthma. In humid climates, such as in parts of Australia, you should keep humidity down to 50% to prevent spores from propagating. Same thing with dust mites too.

Hocus Locus
September 10, 2018 7:00 pm

DUE TO AN ONGOING PLANETARY STORM OF MASS PSYCHOSIS, the likely failure of the Mars rover Opportunity mission due to sunlight not reaching its solar panels in sufficient measure to keep it alive… will NOT be understood or televised as a failure of the intermittent energy concept, a cautionary tale for society.

It will be explained away as an unavoidable tragedy, an “act of God” in an era where prudent engineering and even the faith tinted science of classical religion is giving way to a miasma of self-serving political mysticism and mass delusion.

EDIT: Have a nice day.

September 10, 2018 8:19 pm

This AGW indoctrination of kids in the schools, is not just CA, but everywhere in the US (and probably elsewhere). It’s a big problem in my opinion. Most kids are being/been brainwashed by this drivel. My two (very smart. if ignorant) teenage grand kids won’t even listen! It’s just old know-nothing gramps. Sigh

Patrick MJD
Reply to  eck
September 10, 2018 8:58 pm

You can definitely add three countries to the US;

Australia, England and New Zealand, hook, line and sinker!

Reply to  Patrick MJD
September 11, 2018 4:11 am

our local school head decided that grass was climate unfriendly
so a million +later we have crappy astroturf kids dont go there unless forced by sports no cooling loss of greenskeeper
and now?
complaints cos some nasty GRASS seeds got a hold and are growing through it all
funnier if we didnt help pay for it via local council funding.
and will keep paying as it wears out becomes toxic due to particulate matter and the possible residus of the colourants.
I gather some usa sports grounds are off limits due to similar issues?

Reply to  ozspeaksup
September 11, 2018 10:14 pm

These stories remind me of a fable I read about the City of Fools. When it snowed for the first time in any of their lives, they thought it was fragile diamonds from the sky. The wisest of the fools thought they had a bonanza windfall, but it would be destroyed if people walked on it, so they arranged for a messenger to go door to door ordering the people to stay indoors. One of the wise fools pointed out that the messenger would crush the diamonds, so after some discussion it was determined that the best way to avoid that was to arrange for four men to carry the messenger balanced on a table. Thankfully the snow melted by noon, causing the wisest of the fools to conclude that they lost out on the bonanza by taking too long to deliberate.

Randy Bork
September 10, 2018 8:32 pm

One quote from that article; “Despite countless scientific studies that prove climate change is happening all around the globe, there are still those who refuse to believe humans cause it, or that it even exists.” is a form that I find most objectionable. Like the term ‘climate denier’ itself, it is a straw man argument. Probably the most widely used form of the argument in the history of man. I happen to live in a place that was under a mile of ice during the last ice age. Do you think I would ‘deny that climate change even exists?’ It would be ludicrous on its face. I am quite certain that is true of almost ALL scientists who can be called sceptical of the warnings of catastrophic warming. Yet they love to call them ‘climate deniers.’ Straw man terminology ought to be laughed out of the debate.

September 11, 2018 7:36 am

David ==> who cares about climate change?

The Linkletter YouTube was marvelous! Thank you for that!

September 11, 2018 4:09 pm

“or take a moment to question the air I breathe when it starts to smell like rotten eggs, a smell close enough to compare to the smell of sulfur. Every so often, I step on a high pedestal to check up on the Chevron refinery to make sure the “steam” that is being released into the air isn’t a huge black cloud.”

This is why they love to use young people. They are obviously to young to remember blue smoke belching cars and hazy air prior to introduction of the Clean Air Act with the subsequent pollution controls. Back in the 70’s our local paper mill made people want to puke when they smelled it, by the time it closed several years back it was just a slightly annoying smell.

+1 though for knowing that refinery “smoke” is steam and not “pollution”.

September 11, 2018 10:19 pm

I wonder how many of these kids know that the reason for the tradition of building walls around homes in California didn’t arise from a desire for privacy, but for protection during the Water Wars of the 19th and early 20th Centuries?

September 12, 2018 4:22 am

24, 25, 30 years old aren’t kids. Those girls are retarded. Kids look like this

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