Pacific Forum: Climate Change the “Single Greatest Threat”, USA Should Pay Up

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Australia and New Zealand and the Pacific Island Nations have just tried to bully the USA on climate policy by signing the Boe Declaration, a joint declaration of the 49th Pacific Islands Forum which names climate change as the single greatest threat to the region, and specifically demands that the USA rejoin the Paris Agreement.

Australia joins Pacific to declare climate ‘single greatest’ security threat

Published on 05/09/2018, 2:45pm

Region of island states calls for the Paris Agreement to be upheld, with Australia joining despite recent political turmoil over climate policy

By Helga Timaroczky

Australia joined other Pacific island governments in a joint statement on Wednesday that named climate change as the major security issue facing the region.

At a meeting of the Pacific Islands Forum on Nauru on Wednesday, leaders signed the Boe Declaration, which recognised climate change as “the single greatest threat to the livelihoods security and wellbeing of peoples of the Pacific”.

The declaration also committed signatories to follow through on the promises made in the 2015 Paris Agreement on climate change.

Read more: http://www.climatechangenews.com/2018/09/05/australia-joins-pacific-declare-climate-single-greatest-security-threat/

From the communique supplied by Climate Change News;

Climate Change and Disaster Resilience

15. Recognising that climate change presents the single greatest threat to the livelihood, security and wellbeing of Pacific people, Leaders reaffirmed the importance of immediate urgent action to combat climate change and committed to sustained, high level representation and collaboration in the lead up to, and at, 24th Conference of Parties to the United Nations Framework on Climate Change Convention (COP 24) – to ensure effective progress on Pacific priorities with regards to the Paris Agreement, particularly the development of the Rule Book and Guidelines for implementing the Paris Agreement, building on the Talanoa Dialogue.

16. Leaders acknowledged the leadership of Fiji’s COP 23 presidency and called on the CROP Plus group to provide strong, coordinated support and assistance to members delegations in the UNFCCC negotiations.

17. Leaders called on countries, particularly large emitters, to fully implement their Nationally Determined Contribution mitigation targets, including through the development and transfer of renewable energy, in line with committed timeframes. Leaders of Forum Island Countries called on the United States to return to the Paris Agreement on Climate Change.

18. Leaders urged the expeditious progress of the work of the taskforce for the Pacific Islands Climate Change Insurance Facility.

19. Leaders requested the United Nations Secretary General to appoint a Special Adviser on climate change and security. Furthermore, Leaders called on the United Nations Security Council to appoint a special rapporteur to produce a regular review of global, regional and national security threats caused by climate change.

20. Leaders reaffirmed their commitment to the Framework for the Resilient Development of the Pacific recognising the value and importance of a multi-sectoral approach to addressing climate change and its impacts. Leaders acknowledged the establishment of a regional risk governance arrangement through the Pacific Resilience Partnership and the Pacific Resilience Partnership Taskforce.

21. Leaders endorsed the development of the concept of the Pacific Resilience Facility (PRF) and directed the Secretariat to progress the development of the PRF.

Read more: 49th Pacific Islands Forum Boe Declaration (unofficial release)

In my opinion putting a signature to this declaration makes a mockery of claims the new Australian government is climate skeptic.

The USA has been incredibly generous over the years with everyone who signed that declaration, but forum attendees see an opportunity to extract more cash from US taxpayers and are going for it.

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Brian S
September 5, 2018 3:06 pm

Sounds like an attempt at extortion.

Curious George
Reply to  Brian S
September 5, 2018 3:52 pm

A failure to supply requested funds will be deemed an act of aggression.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Authority_Martyrs_Fund

J Mac
Reply to  Curious George
September 5, 2018 4:20 pm

To all such wannabe extortionists:
If you open the door to violence, don’t complain if it gets too rough for you.

Bryan A
Reply to  J Mac
September 5, 2018 9:37 pm

I might just consider an alteration to the agreement WRT the U.S. Nationally Determined Contributions AKA $$$$$$$$$$$ to wit…

The USA will begin monetary contributions to a U.S. managed fund for global climate mitigation projects.
The USA will manage said fund via domestic federal reserve banks.
The USA will disperse funds to global climate mitigation projects that are designed by, supplied by, constructed by and overseen by U.S. Manufacturers, Suppliers, Designers, and Contractors using U.S. manufactured or procured goods.

The USA will do this once the threat of terrorism from Islamic Extremists (ISIS, ISIL, AL-QUIDA, etc.) has been eliminated from the world.

If you want our help on climate problems, first admit that extremist terrorism is the major global existential threat, more pressing than climate change and second come together with the U.S. to eliminate that threat.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Bryan A
September 6, 2018 12:12 am

WTGR, there is no such thing as “extreme terrorism”, terrorism by its very nature is “extreme”! It is violent, bloody, indiscriminate, & ruthless! It does no discrimination between men, women, children, the sick, the weak, the young, the elderly, the vulnerable! Terrorism is simply that, terror, designed to bully & intimidate!!!

Bryan A
Reply to  Alan the Brit
September 6, 2018 6:17 am

You’ve misread the statement Alan. I didn’t say “Extreme Terrorism” I said “Extremist Terrorism”…Terrorism brought on by Religious Extremists.
There is a difference.
Once the World helps the U.S.A. eliminate Extremist created Terrorism the U.S.A. will consider assisting with global climate related problems but only if the U.S.A. (we) controls how our Climate funds are utilized and where the pay goes.

old construction worker
Reply to  Bryan A
September 6, 2018 5:16 am

I would add: The Pacific Island Nations that have signed the Boe Declaration will pay the U.S. for patrolling Pacific Water keeping the shipping lanes open.

Jim
Reply to  J Mac
September 6, 2018 8:19 am

Absolutely right

Wally
Reply to  Curious George
September 5, 2018 5:03 pm

a speck in the universe compared to:

‘Forced US taxpayers money to Israel goes far, far beyond the official numbers, which are outrageous to begin with’
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-true-cost-of-israel/

Rockribbed
Reply to  Wally
September 5, 2018 6:57 pm

What’s up with you Wally? Is this somehow relevant to climate change politics?

MarkW
Reply to  Wally
September 5, 2018 7:24 pm

Another idjit who can’t help but drag his ignorant opinion in, even where it isn’t relevant.

Javert Chip
Reply to  Wally
September 5, 2018 9:08 pm

Wally

Why don’t you and a bunch of the boys get together a write a big check? Carpe diem and all that.

Why drag the rest of us taxpayers into it? Why do we need to be the world’s lifeguard?

Hugs
Reply to  Wally
September 6, 2018 8:24 am

That’s what you Americans can be proud of. You actually do lend a hand to friends between anti-Semites. The EU is a stinking pool of leftards trying to finish what Nazis tried first.

beng135
Reply to  Wally
September 6, 2018 2:24 pm

(The Beaver’s voice) Gee wiz, Wally, can you get any more irrelevant?

Santa
Reply to  Curious George
September 5, 2018 11:57 pm

Its neomarxism cultural terror, tyrrany and slavery. No thanks!

Geoff
Reply to  Brian S
September 5, 2018 4:37 pm

The main claimant was so fat he would need assistance to roll over in bed.

John Chism
September 5, 2018 3:11 pm

My main question is… How are they going to stop the Sun from doing Geomagnetic Reversals that’s the cause of Solar Cycles or shield the Earth from the Sun?

D. Anderson
Reply to  John Chism
September 5, 2018 4:09 pm

By sending the Pacific Islanders a boat load of dollars. Didn’t you read the article?

Bryan A
Reply to  D. Anderson
September 6, 2018 10:31 am

OK … “Kiribati, we just sent you a Boat load of Klimate Kash but unfortunately, the latest Pacific Hurricane sunk the ship and the Kash is strewn about on the sea floor.
We’ll get you within 7 miles of it but you will need to locate and recover it yourself.”

Javert Chip
Reply to  John Chism
September 5, 2018 9:09 pm

CA will pass a law against it.

ResourceGuy
Reply to  Javert Chip
September 6, 2018 10:18 am

NY will sue it, with help from private attorneys and foundations of course.

Ian Magness
September 5, 2018 3:12 pm

“Leaders called on the United Nations Security Council to appoint a special rapporteur to produce a regular review of global, regional and national security threats caused by climate change.”
What a great job! There will be a stampede to apply! Just sit on the beaches of top hotels around the Pacific, all expenses paid and then keep writing reports noting your “real concern” for the future (although it isn’t happening JUST yet).
As for “Leaders reaffirmed their commitment to the Framework for the Resilient Development of the Pacific recognising the value and importance of a multi-sectoral approach to addressing climate change and its impacts. Leaders acknowledged the establishment of a regional risk governance arrangement through the Pacific Resilience Partnership and the Pacific Resilience Partnership Taskforce.” – well that meaningless carp must really qualify for some double-speak bullshit award. It would go straight the Pseud’s Corner in “Private Eye” (assuming that section still exists.)

ScienceABC123
September 5, 2018 3:15 pm

Synopsis: “We can’t afford to pay for our own nonsense, so the Americans should pay for all of us.”

Mike Schnell
September 5, 2018 3:29 pm

The USA is the most indebted nation on earth and somehow is suppposed to have money to help other countries?!

Herbert
Reply to  Mike Schnell
September 5, 2018 4:50 pm

Mike,
Precisely. Why don’t the Pacific Islanders approach the 3 leading Creditor Nations who have some $10 trillion in reserves between them to meet the tab for addressing this urgent problem. The US ceased being the leading Creditor nation some 2 decades ago.
And the lucky new contributors are –
1. Japan
2. Germany
3.China
Step up to the plate you 3 and show the world your bona fides.

Bryan A
Reply to  Herbert
September 5, 2018 9:42 pm

China is also the leading global CO2 producer by ton produced per year

Hugs
Reply to  Bryan A
September 6, 2018 8:27 am

Not only that, but it actually produces more CO2 than the EU and US combined. There’s no way we could just take responsibility over that. The Chinese are independent.

richard verney
Reply to  Hugs
September 6, 2018 10:06 am

But the Chinese aren’t fools. They know how to play the game.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Mike Schnell
September 6, 2018 12:25 am

If my history & memory serve, it isn’t just monetery, wasn’t there a couple of altercations & disagreements in the last century, when the Europeans effectively begged the good ‘ol US of A to get them out of the Sh1t they’d dug themselves into? I seem to recall the last little petty disagreement in Europe cost that lazy, useless, ignorant, US of A some 300,000 men+, buried in France, never to come home! As a Brit, separated by a common language, I get sick & tired of this systematic bashing of the US of A! There are times when I wish I’d emigrated years ago! The British tried to sort said disagreements out, but just couldn’t do it on there own! Apologies for the off-topic moan! AtB.

richard verney
Reply to  Alan the Brit
September 6, 2018 10:11 am

Well as a fellow Brit, I for one want to see MAGA, and I am a firm supporter of President Trump who I hope will lead a resurgent USA through to Jan 2025..

The US needs to drain the swamp and then once again hold its head up high on the world stage. Most countries, one way or another, are indebted to the US, and I too dislike the constant bashing of the US.

Editor
September 5, 2018 3:29 pm

Boe Declaration?

Boe = barrels oil equivalent… LOL!

jimB
Reply to  David Middleton
September 8, 2018 9:11 am

Bullsh&&t Over Everything

ATheoK
September 5, 2018 3:31 pm

The only country with serious reductions in CO₂ emissions, and they think they could shame us!?

Nagged by countries that are not even trying to reduce their emissions?

Fully defund any funds going towards these bozos. Put into motion a UN statement that all countries must fund their own international vacation beach trips.

Al Montgomery
Reply to  ATheoK
September 5, 2018 3:38 pm

It’s weird they don’t recognize the fact that the US has reduced CO2 output isn’t it!

BillP
Reply to  Al Montgomery
September 6, 2018 1:07 am

It has never been about CO2, it has always been about money.

Bruce Cobb
September 5, 2018 3:33 pm

“Leaders of Forum Island Countries called on the United States to return to the Paris Agreement on Climate Change.” Sure, sure. Trump will get right on that, pronto. It’s at the top of his list of things to get done titled” Things we must do that will cost us a lot of money that won’t benefit us in any way, and will make us weaker”.

J Mac
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
September 5, 2018 4:25 pm

The way you stated it, I’m quite sure that was Obama’s list!

richard verney
Reply to  J Mac
September 6, 2018 10:15 am

It is the only list that got implement. Other matters went into a list of things entitled matters that I should not do since it will make the USA stronger and/or richer.

Mike Bryant
September 5, 2018 3:37 pm

The USA is best as an example for the rest of the world… it’s high time we get back to it. Watch us and follow suit. Let’s get back to who we were when we were worth emulating. Vote straight Republican.

Reply to  Mike Bryant
September 5, 2018 3:46 pm

” Vote straight Republican”

Shame you only had a choice between crooked Clinton & twisted Trump

Mike Bryant
Reply to  saveenergy
September 5, 2018 3:49 pm

That was a no brainer…

Bryan A
Reply to  Mike Bryant
September 5, 2018 9:44 pm

A well proven and concise evaluation of the prior post

Latitude
Reply to  saveenergy
September 5, 2018 4:01 pm

I saw the choice as between the swamp…both sides….and a huge bucket of whoopass

Thomas Englert
Reply to  saveenergy
September 5, 2018 7:24 pm

Easy choice.

George Daddis
Reply to  Mike Bryant
September 6, 2018 8:18 am

What the Hell is going on over there?

Mike, hold our beer.

gowest
September 5, 2018 3:49 pm

Bolt report called this out well …..- with the 10 fattest countries in their zone, the biggest threat to the Pacific islands is Obesity (diabetes) not climate change.

J Mac
Reply to  gowest
September 5, 2018 4:27 pm

The islands are sinking under the corpulent collective weight?

Hugs
Reply to  J Mac
September 6, 2018 8:40 am

Tipping over, of course. gowest, your note has some small racist undertone, but it also happens to be pretty factual. The islands are not very inhabitable in the first place, which is probably one reason to the obesity epidemic.

Walt D.
September 5, 2018 3:49 pm

As Tom Cruise said:

AZ1971
September 5, 2018 3:59 pm

Hmm, the Pacific forum nations spell China as “C-L-I-M-A-T-E”. Morons.

Joel O'Bryan
September 5, 2018 4:06 pm

Never mind an imperialistic Red Chinese, their fast growing Navy and amphibious capabilities, or their several thousand medium range ballistic missiles capable of delivering chemical, biological, nuclear warheads anywhere in the region in about 20 minutes.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
September 5, 2018 5:07 pm

The Chinese are militarizing the several strategic islands in the South China Sea, for example Woody Island being one. It has a long runway, multiple hardened aircraft shelters for fighter jets (right side of photo below), and a large logistics and support area. It also has what appear to be hardened missile shelters (center-left side of photo).
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The Chinese DF-26 intermediate range ballistic missile, based on Woody Island and having an estimated 2,500 statute mile range, brings Darwin to Broome inside its targeting capabilities.
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You’d think that Australian leaders would understand that we are where we were in 1931 with Imperial Japan and denying their intentions.

But as Aldous Huxley said, “The main lesson of history is that we are determined to ignore history.”

Latitude
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
September 5, 2018 5:22 pm

…or the obvious….China does not believe in sea level rise

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Latitude
September 5, 2018 5:28 pm

They know the projections beyond slr ~ 3 mm/yr are junk science. The Chinese and Vlady Putin are laughing their butts off at so many in Western governments wanting to commit economic suicide.

Bryan A
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
September 5, 2018 9:47 pm

Time for “Rods from God”

Stuart, Maylands, Western Aus
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
September 5, 2018 6:50 pm

joelobryan Why would they attack Darwin?, they already own the port there. Not leased , owned.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Stuart, Maylands, Western Aus
September 5, 2018 7:46 pm

They would defend it from attack by Australians. Chinese PLA Marines and Army units streaming ashore from transports. They want Australia’s mineral resources without having to pay for them. Just as Imperial Japan wanted the oil and mineral resources of SE Asia.

Yirgach
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
September 5, 2018 7:55 pm

Guam and the US Andersen Air Force Base is less than 2200 mi from the South China sea.
That is a major reason for the missile facilities.
Your typical board game move…

Reply to  Eric Worrall
September 5, 2018 10:47 pm

Could be “Battle of the Coral Sea” II

beng135
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
September 6, 2018 2:36 pm

Thanks for the update on Chinese expansionism, Joel. They analyzed Japanese techniques trying the same thing from pre-WWII, and have come up w/the way to do it under everyone’s noses with them barely protesting.

David Chappell
September 5, 2018 4:09 pm

They ignored the elephant in the region – China and its military and political ambitions

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  David Chappell
September 5, 2018 4:28 pm

Somewhere in the back of the delegation, the Red Chinese are pulling the strings of these puppets.

J Mac
September 5, 2018 4:18 pm

To all of the grasping grifters attending the ’49th Pacific Islands Forum’, from this native son of the USA:
Piss Off! Pay your own bar tabs and massage parlor bills, you whinging con artists! We’re done contributing to Climate Change fraud!

Tom Abbott
Reply to  J Mac
September 5, 2018 5:22 pm

No more money for you!

fraizer
Reply to  Tom Abbott
September 5, 2018 8:26 pm

September 5, 2018 4:18 pm

Here is the extent of this major threat at just one of the Pacific nations. comment image

MarkW
September 5, 2018 4:38 pm

If Global Warming is their biggest problem, then they are sitting pretty.

4 Eyes
September 5, 2018 4:47 pm

Just when I thought our Australian govt was showing signs of rationality it signs such a silly document. This shows me I have been right for a long time – Oz pollies are just plain dumb and ignorant and blind to the consequences of their actions. One vote lost.

Gary Pearse
September 5, 2018 5:05 pm

“Framework for the Resilient blah blah…” Socialists cling to their favorite ‘tells’ like the buzz word ‘Framework’. The UN’s UNFCC – Framework for the Conquest of Capitalism under which situates the IPCC, both invented by the Canadian communist, the late Maurice Strong.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Gary Pearse
September 6, 2018 2:24 am

You are referring to that late Maurice Strong, the millionaire Communist/Socialist, aren’t you?

ray boorman
September 5, 2018 5:18 pm

As an Australian I am pissed that my government decided to sign this plea for money.

Craig from Oz
Reply to  ray boorman
September 5, 2018 11:14 pm

It’s that useless ranga.

She has moved from being invisible and useless as Defence Minister, to being visible and useless as the Foreign one.

Simon
September 5, 2018 5:53 pm

There is no money involved. All this declaration does is call for countries to meet their commitments under the Paris Agreement. The USA is the only country that did not sign, which says a lot about credibility of the current administration.

Go Home
Reply to  Simon
September 5, 2018 6:26 pm

I am just glad you agree that this administration does have a lot of credibility when it comes to undermining the lefties trying to pick our pockets clean. Thank you Donald Trump.

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
September 5, 2018 7:27 pm

The biggest “commitment” was money.
That the US was smart enough to get hoodwinked gives the current administration a tremendous amount of credibility.

Edit: Actually, the only commitment was money. There were no commitments to actually cut CO2.

Editor
Reply to  Simon
September 5, 2018 7:53 pm

Simon, are you that unaware that America REDUCED their emissions, despite not signing it?

Simon
Reply to  Sunsettommy
September 5, 2018 10:10 pm

So why not join? Why be a pariah for the rest of the world? There are no penalties if a country does not meet it’s commitments. There is no ‘extraction’ of cash from US taxpayers.
I see Australia tried to the water down the resolution but their leadership is just as dysfunctional as the US.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Simon
September 6, 2018 4:34 am

Because there is zero reason to, that’s why. And far from making us a “pariah”, it makes us leaders. The whole thing is a farce, and is entirely about a money-grab by poor countries. Other countries, like China have nothing to lose, as they get a pass until 2030. They’d love for us to sign though, of course.

John Endicott
Reply to  Simon
September 6, 2018 6:10 am

There’s already been an extraction of cash from the US taxpayers, Obama funneled $1 billion to the climate fund under the Paris agreement. That $1 billion too much!

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
September 6, 2018 8:22 am

We are a pariah amongst the brain dead worshipers of CAGW.
I have no problem with that.

Reply to  Simon
September 5, 2018 9:20 pm

Whatever happened at Paris is irrelevant. A president, by him self, can not make a treaty. If Obama made it without the consent of the senate, it can be undone by the next president. They can be pissed off all they want demanding money, doesn’t amount to a hill of beans.
Obama singing that may have overstepped his bounds as president. Unless he had the express will of Congress to do so, it can be construed as illegal. In fact, he signed it, he signed it as Obama the person and not Obama the president. He had no authority to do that.
We still have a functioning government, a free press we do not. It is being controlled by leftist, which is different than being a liberal.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  rishrac
September 6, 2018 5:50 am

Ah, but it isn’t a treaty, but an “agreement”. Amazing, innit, that simply by changing what you call something it goes from being illegal to legal. It’s genius, really.

MarkW
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
September 6, 2018 8:23 am

Progressives have been changing the names they use in order to hide their true nature for a couple of generations.

Reply to  Simon
September 5, 2018 11:17 pm

I think this counts as money being involved.

“When the Obama administration finalized the agreement in December 2015, it committed $3 billion to the United Nations’ Green Climate Fund, which is meant to help countries meet their targets. Only $1 billion of that has been paid out, and the Trump administration won’t sign off on any further payments.”

Washington Times June 5, 2017

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Simon
September 6, 2018 2:27 am

Now look, I have no time to waste picking up your toys & putting them back into you pram!

John Endicott
Reply to  Simon
September 6, 2018 6:27 am

There is no money involved.

That’s a bald faced lie

All this declaration does is call for countries to meet their commitments under the Paris Agreement

The US is already cutting GHG-emissions, so if it’s all about non-monetary commitments, why call out the US specifically when it’s one of the few nations actually meeting/beating the GHG targets? Because the only commitments they are concerned with is the ones with $ attached to them.

The USA is the only country that did not sign, which says a lot about credibility of the current administration

Indeed, it makes us a bold leader rather than mindless sheep. It’s easier to mindless follow the herd than to go your own way (cue the Fleetwood Mac song).

JMJ42
September 5, 2018 6:28 pm

This doesn’t surprise me. I visited Australia/New Zealand in 2012 for the solar eclipse in Cairns and loved the people but discovered they have a very inflated sense of how much their opinion matters to Americans. The big news while we were there was related to New Zealand’s nuclear ban which prevented US nuclear powered vessels from using their ports. The locals were very, very eager to discus it with us and were SHOCKED to discover that the only reason we knew the ban existed was because we were in New Zealand while it was in the news. I’m sure they think that the US public is similarly aware of this declaration but they are wrong about this too.

Javert Chip
Reply to  JMJ42
September 5, 2018 9:23 pm

Americans are, however, very aware of NZ pinot noir & sauvignon blanc, as well as its a stunningly beautiful & friendly country.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but the next time NZ needs American military support, I suppose they’ll not be shy about asking.

Craig from Oz
Reply to  Javert Chip
September 5, 2018 11:20 pm

New Zealand has a powerful and up to date military, but for convenience they decide to keep it all in Australia closer to where it might be needed.

And by ‘keep’ read ‘get Australia to pay, equip and supply personnel for’.

It’s Choice, Bro.

beng135
Reply to  Javert Chip
September 6, 2018 2:44 pm

Javert Chip, plus we Americans know most of the scenery in The Lord of the Rings movies was from New Zealand (with CGI enhancements). 🙂

mareeS
Reply to  JMJ42
September 5, 2018 10:17 pm

NZ nuclear ban has been in place since 1970s.

Gwan
Reply to  mareeS
September 6, 2018 2:02 am

New Zealnd’s Prime minister has stated that climate change is the new “nuclear ” and her government are going to tackle it head on .
I would say head down in the sand .
Jacinda Ardern took a air force jet to Naru Island to attend the meeting and came in for a lot of criticism as she should lead by example and should have traveled with the New Zealand delegation the day before .
This is only the start of a green leaning government wasting taxes on frivolous projects and we hope that they only last one term and common sense returns to our government.
Graham

Richard of NZ
Reply to  Gwan
September 6, 2018 4:40 am

She should also have traveled by waka, hand cut from sustainably grown kauri and formed with sustainable stone tools powered by wind collected in hand spun and woven flax sails.

Richard of NZ
Reply to  mareeS
September 6, 2018 4:37 am

But it is a nuclear ban in name only. New Zealand is in actuality a 100% nuclear powered country.

Hydro and wind power: Powered by the thermonuclear reactor the sun.
Geothermal energy: Powered by nuclear fission deep in the Earth
Fossil fuel energy (coal natural gas and petroleum spirits): Stored energy from the thermonuclear reactor the sun.

Mike Lowe
Reply to  JMJ42
September 5, 2018 10:22 pm

Please don’t think that all of we New Zealanders believe the nonsense spouted by GreenFleece or our present socialist government. Many of us support President Trump! MAGA!

old construction worker
Reply to  JMJ42
September 6, 2018 5:40 am

I think New Zealand should do their best to lower their “GHS pollution” by cutting down on dairy farming, wool production and mining.

Hugs
Reply to  old construction worker
September 6, 2018 8:49 am

No! New Zealand is a speckle in a sea. Just do whatever you can there, because island economies are very difficult to keep from collapsing.

Gamecock
September 5, 2018 6:36 pm

‘climate change presents the single greatest threat’

They don’t even bother defining ‘climate change.’ You are just supposed to know. And be skeert.

Robert
September 5, 2018 6:37 pm

They could perhaps help themselves more by producing reliable data demonstrating problems rather than all of the hot air. If they are ever able to do so I might actually listen to their concerns.

September 5, 2018 6:43 pm

Regarding the signing by Australia of the Pacific conference despite the domestic rejection of climate change, how much of that is the usual virtue signilling, and how much is to try a to counter Chinas influence in the Pacific.

But in the end the Pacifics very small nations just want money, and they don’t really care where it comes from.

MJE

In the end as is

Editor
September 5, 2018 7:50 pm

The meatheads fail to notice that the Paris agreement is sliding away into irrelevance, and America has reduced their CO2 emission without being a party to it.

Javert Chip
Reply to  Sunsettommy
September 5, 2018 9:26 pm

Obama (on his way out the door) shipped the Paris dudes (whoever they are) $1B ($1,000,000,000) – have they already spent/stolen all of it?

Reply to  Javert Chip
September 5, 2018 11:46 pm

No word yet if the payment was made in pallets of cash flown in in the middle of the night.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Javert Chip
September 6, 2018 2:34 am

Hey, knock it off will you! Don’t you realise just how expensive these Climate Jamborees….errr I mean Conferences are??? All those fine wines, champagnes, & finest foods don’t pay for themselves you know! Sarc!

LdB
Reply to  Sunsettommy
September 7, 2018 6:40 am

The agreement has been irrelevant for years , even the once pinup country Germany is not going to make it’s targets. The irony is the US and the those countries deemed exempt as 3rd world nations are the only ones making target except a few tiny EU countries. China which is currently list as maybe meeting targets is also likely not meeting target because of data doctoring and so it could actually be worse.

September 5, 2018 9:21 pm

Who did their ancestors extort from when sea levels were higher a majority of the time from 8,000 years to 1,000 years ago? Willis Eschenbach and others have plainly and clearly described cool atoll dynamics and how they maintain themselves in rising seas. Photographic analyses have found that about 75% of coral atolls examined grew or maintained their size as sea level rose the past fifty years. an NOAA study of 199 of the most stable and long-life tide gauges found sea level rise averaging four inches per century. I would ask, “Have they no shame?” but that’s a foolish question to ask of seekers of others’ money. They consider themselves fools if the don’t have their hands out.

Andre Lewis
September 5, 2018 9:23 pm

Our newly appointed Foreign Affairs Idiot, sorry Minister signed this on behalf of Australia. That guarantees that we will have the socialist government that’s been threatened. Well done indeed.

SAMURAI
September 5, 2018 9:50 pm

Pacific Island Nations want to achieve the Kiribati model, where government spending is now….wait for it…. 164% of GDP…. Huh?:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/529113/ratio-of-government-expenditure-to-gross-domestic-product-gdp-in-kiribati/

This insane level of government spending was made possible by Kiribati’s effective propaganda campaign asserting Global Warming/Sea Level Rise will cause all their islands to be submerged by 2100, which led to $100’s of millions of extorted “charity” being sent from the US, UN, Australia, New Zealand, the EU, and other Asian countries…. (Kiribati’ population is around 100,000).

Not a bad gig if you can pull it off….

mareeS
September 5, 2018 10:04 pm

They’re trying to bully Australia, too. Gimme money or we’ll get it from China seems to be the message.

John Endicott
Reply to  mareeS
September 6, 2018 6:12 am

Good, go get it from China.

ren
September 6, 2018 12:33 am

Sorry.
Sea surface temperature in the area of Norman hurricane activity is high.
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http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floaters/16E/flash-vis-long.html

Coeur de Lion
September 6, 2018 12:45 am

I remember the BBC ‘s Shukman doing a piece on Trump’s withdrawal from Paris which was remarkable for its many- layered lies.

Wallaby Geoff
September 6, 2018 3:04 am

China is increasing it’s influence in the Pacific Islands, Australia’s contribution may have more to do with countering that, than “Climate Change”. Politics is a complicated business.

Steve O
September 6, 2018 3:48 am

“In my opinion putting a signature to this declaration makes a mockery of claims the new Australian government is climate skeptic.”

— Scientifically, they are skeptics. Financially, they are advocates.

It was never about the temperatures. It was only ever about the wealth transfers. If life on earth hangs in the balance, sending money to people who will spend it on air conditioning isn’t going to help. Sure, we may feel sorry for them as they struggle to adjust to the 0.1 degrees per decade, but if things really are as dire as what the alarmists claim, we can’t afford to do anything that makes things worth. Sure, it may be unjust but does life on earth hang in the balance or doesn’t it? If it turns out they get swallowed up by the sea, Germany will take them in.

John Endicott
September 6, 2018 6:13 am

Fantastic, we now have a list of Countries that the US should stop supplying all aid money too. Reason: We don’t give money to extortionists.

Edwin
September 6, 2018 6:38 am

These guys are all behind the times.
We in the US no longer contribute to the Global Warming Climate Change Fund because we solved the “problem”!
It’s over, finished, the “Trump Effect” and now we will all look toward reversal of the coming glaciation.

Davis
September 6, 2018 6:50 am

If climate change is the region’s biggest threat, just invite the Chinese, Russian, or some other foreign countries army into your country and let them take over. They can then protect you from the evil boogieman of climate change.

JonScott
September 6, 2018 6:58 am

I think before any of them are allowed to spout they should take Geology 101 AND sit an exam to see if they understand what atolls and guyots are and also what happens when some of them livie at active plate boundaries! Religeon with money as it’s goal!

J Mac
Reply to  JonScott
September 6, 2018 6:51 pm
September 6, 2018 8:47 am

Recognising that climate change presents the single greatest threat to the livelihood, security and wellbeing of Pacific people …

Why not just write it like this:

Recognizing that death by natural causes presents the single greatest threat to life, we hereby declare this as ample cause to bully the United States into giving us money, because this is as good an excuse as any to redistribute the wealth of your rich-ass country.

WKB
September 6, 2018 10:11 am

LET THEM POUND SAND!

David S
September 6, 2018 10:15 am

If they want more money they should get a metal detector and go to the beach.

ResourceGuy
September 6, 2018 10:16 am

Oh so that’s why China armed its new, man-made island to the teeth. I guess that also explains Russia seizing Crimea from Ukraine…as a defensive measure against climate change. It might also explain depopulating Venezuela…as a precautionary measure against climate change. That would also explain Assad gassing his own people to save them.

Sparky
September 6, 2018 1:17 pm

Go to India and China with tin cup in hand. See what they say

Tom
September 6, 2018 1:40 pm

It appears to me that profound ignorance of a rare terminal variety is the greatest threat that is in the immediate future for human kind. I have always believed that ignorance is curable but there is a variety of ignorance where the victims know things that just aren’t true that is a special apparently incurable variety of ignorance. It may be that not all Democrats are afflicted but it does appear that an inordinate percentage of Democrats are carriers of the disease.

Edward A. Katz
September 6, 2018 6:23 pm

The US shouldn’t give them anything because if fighting climate change is so urgent, the rest of the countries that signed the Paris deal should be willing to make up the shortfall with additional donations of their own. No doubt doubt their citizens wouldn’t mind the least if their carbon taxes added an extra 25% to their fuel bills.

J Mac
September 6, 2018 6:46 pm

Whoo Boy! That’s gonna leave a mark!!!
President Baron Waqa of Nauru, the tiny island state hosting the 49th Pacific Islands Forum, refused to allow Chinese representative Du Qiwen deliver a speech on global warming. The underlying reason may be Nauru’s alliance with Taiwan, which China has been bullying them to drop. That and the natural reefs that China destroyed to make artificial military base islands throughout the South Asian Sea.
‘Nauru – with it’s eyes wide open!’ MNGA! Make Nauru Great Again!

https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2018/09/06/tiny-island-nation-nauru-blocks-china-speech-at-forum-refuses-to-stamp-chinese-passports/

Johann Wundersamer
September 7, 2018 4:17 am

“turmoil over climate policy”

By Helga Timaroczky
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Timuros ky –

Is this a descendant of

https://www.google.at/search?q=tamerlan&oq=tMerlan&aqs=chrome.

Hans Henrik Hansen
September 7, 2018 9:57 am

Kind of funny – in view of this statement from the Australian Resources Minister: “Paris climate deal doesn’t stop us building new coal plants, Canavan says”!
Source: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/sep/07/paris-climate-deal-doesnt-stop-us-building-new-coal-plants-canavan-says

jimB
September 8, 2018 9:03 am

Save the taxpayers a bunch. Cut off all contributions to these buggers. Er…beggars.

Quilter52
September 14, 2018 6:31 am

Sorry everyone. As an Australian, this week’s government is an embarrassment. Next week’s is likely to be worse and I don’t even want to think about the idiots coming down the track at next year’s election. Still the Minister we did send to the forum, Marise Payne was a total waste of space as Defence Minister and is acting temporary Foreign Minister until we find out who the next PM will be. The only thing that can be said in Australia’s favour at this point is that it does not take guns to change our government.

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