Guest essay by Eric Worrall
“He’s making us all look like idiots” – are greens losing their grip in the EU? Greens are in shock that MEP Stuart Agnew of the climate skeptic United Kingdom Independence Party was selected to write a key European Union Parliament climate report.
Ukip MEP sparks outrage with report denying human role in climate change
Report blames climate change on cosmic ray fluctuations and sunspot activity, drawing derision from climate scientists
A European parliament report that blames climate change on cosmic ray fluctuations, sunspots and planetary gravitational pulls, is so hackneyed and ill-informed it would “make the dinosaurs blush,” climate scientists say.
The non-binding opinion written by Ukip MEP, John Stuart Agnew, has shocked EU lawmakers for its dismissal of climate science – and the support he received to write it from mainstream rightwing and liberal political blocs.
Green MEP Molly Scott Cato said their choice of Agnew, a Norfolk farmer, as parliamentary rapporteur by the agriculture committee, was a “truly scandalous” fiasco that illustrated a growing populist threat. A rapporteur is elected to shepherd EU proposals through the European parliament and, after negotiations with the European commission and EU states, into law.
The Agnew report calls for a €5.45bn green fund called Life to be used to prepare “for an impending Maunder Minimum” – or a period of low sunspot activity.
It deletes the European commission’s proposals for funds to be spent on clean energy infrastructure, references to climate mitigation and obligations under the Paris agreement.
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Agnew has long campaigned against what he terms “the global warming scam”. He has also drawn attention for claiming thousands of pounds in CAP payments for his Norfolk farm every month, according to his members’ declaration.
He told the Guardian that “I threw my hat in the ring to do this [report] fully expecting to be thrown out of court,” but that he then received wide support, “to my genuine astonishment”.
A spokesman for the European People’s Party said their backing for Agnew was due to bidding procedures and not an endorsement of his climate politics.
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Click here to see a draft copy of the report. (if anyone can find a more up to date version please post in comments).
The following is a video of UKIP’s Stuart Agnew discussing his report in the European Parliament;
Agnew, who is a farmer by trade, was once a climate advocate. According to Agnew, for fifteen years he took the advice of the nearby University of East Anglia on what crops to plant, and most of those fifteen years experienced crop failures due to frosts which were no longer supposed to happen.
The Guardian’s recommended response to Agnew’s stir is the rather pathetic strategy of “refusing to debate”.
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Can somebody please enlighten me, just who are these deniers of observation facts? Finally somebody with a bit of guts!
Thank you for that I’ve not had so much fun watching EU parliamentary debates since Nigel was there, he like Mr Agnew makes it seem like the one sane person there talking sense and reason is a fool in a mad house or a Topsy Turvy world where everything is backwards.
One interesting comment from Luke Ming at 14.30 was one of only a couple that said hurling insults and questioning their support is not helpful although he stopped short of wanting to debate the information presented.
Watching green heads explode is quite fun though.
James Bull
As an addendum it was fun hearing them all try to talk about the Elephant that he had released into the room without actually mentioning it by name.
James Bull
A dysfunctional bureaucracy pleasuring itself and wallowing in lobbyists, seemingly estranged from actual public opinion and diverse sources of evidence is bound to get surprises like this….
Scott Cato is my MEP as well… and a real embarrassment – £65K a year plus what? – double that in expenses ? pfffft
If my smile was any broader right now, the top of my head might just fall off.
hahahaha
PS The Brecks (Cambs/Norfolk border) is a quite interesting place – also the Cambs Fen.
Check the ‘New Bedford River’ and mull over what effect it may have had on water, drainage, soil moisture, plant growth and hence, Climate.
The effect it did have was that the windmills originally installed to pump water couldn’t work after just a few years because the peat bog (moss) over about 95,000 acres shrank so much. Steam (coal-powered) pumps arrived just in time to save the day.
And those muppets in Brussels think CO2 changes the weather – they have GOT to be stopped.
“And those muppets in Brussels think CO2 changes the weather”
Actually they think nothing of the kind. They know it’s bullcrap, we know it’s bullcrap, they know that we know, we know that they know we know! That’s the summary of the whole scam! It’s was merely a Socilaist device of manipulation & control, to make everyone feel guilty about living in the 20th/21st centuries! May God damn the Club of Rome & all its hangers on!
It is refreshing to read that such a report was made to the EU parliament by a member who will soon no longer be a member. The EU parliament will be much worse without such members who may help to reform the organisation for all of us.
But sadly it appears that the UK is going to continue headlong over the cliff in the trainwreck of Brexit. I compare the average Brexiteer with the average warmist – usually from opposite side of political spectrum but with a poor grip on real reality.
Each relies on the acceptance of the idea in the past by a majority who were not fully informed of all the information and insist that the debate is now over. The UK’s Brexit referendum merely showed Cameron’s naiveté. In Ireland we have voted against two EU treaties. But on each occasion the government stayed in power and went back to Brussels looking for concessions. After a few fig leaves and clever political campaigning majorities of nearly 2/3 in favour were returned in the rerun.
All Cameron had to do was accept he might lose with people voting against the government for a variety of issues not all EU related. After losing all he had to do was go to Brussels and have a strong hand to demand real EU reform. Instead he threw all his toys out the pram.
Now we are sliding towards this disaster for Britain and its closest neighbours because much like the warmists the Brexiteers are saying the debate is over.
Yawn!
Forgive me, but you must be incredibly naive! The EU will never reform, collapse maybe, but never reform its Totalitarian ambitions as they are almost there anyway! It is unelected, undemocratic, unaccountable, & unsackable! The EU Parliament & its useless limp-wristed MEPs are mere tokenism, a showpiece of alleged democracy tofool the peasantry who pay for the lot!!!
Troll.
We knew we wanted w@nkers like you out, and common sense back home to roost.
It is you that keeps failing to ”understand” what we voted for.
We already know the establishment viewpoint, we’ve had it rammed down our throats for the last 30+ years, why should have to hear it one more time for completeness? On top of which the UN cronies have admitted Climate Change has nothing to do wth the environment or saving the planet, it is to create the conditions to establish a Globul Guvment, unelected, undemocratic, unaccountable, & more importantly, unsackable!!!!
It’s good that Stuart Agnew has pulled this stunt.
What if climate in the next couple of decades confirms his prediction?
Then it will be harder for the Climateriat to say “actually we predicted this all along”.
Since their opposition to Agnew’s report will be on the record.
“Then it will be harder for the Climateriat to say “actually we predicted this all along”.”
Maybe not so much. The UK Wet Office covered their arses a few years ago when they snuck a little announcement under the radar, informing us that we may “be facing colder than usual winters over the next 30-35 years as a result of reduced Solar activity, but it won’t affect overall warming due to the emissions of greenhouse gases!”
These guys are unbeleavable. Itruly suspect that many in the upper eschalons of The Wet Office will be retired as said elsewhere on nice fat taxpayer funded pensions, so nobody will be held accountable! Simples! I dare say ditto for the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, oh & not forgetting my beloved EU!!!!!
Excerpts from the article:
“HE’S (MEP Stuart Agnew) MAKING US ALL LOOK LIKE IDIOTS”… Greens are in shock that MEP Stuart Agnew of the climate skeptic United Kingdom Independence Party was selected to write a key European Union Parliament climate report.
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Agnew, who is a farmer by trade, was once a climate advocate. According to Agnew, for fifteen years he took the advice of the nearby University of East Anglia on what crops to plant, and most of those fifteen years experienced crop failures due to frosts which were no longer supposed to happen.
[end of excerpt]
First of all, many of not most Members of the European Parliament ARE idiots, or alternatively are corrupted scoundrels.
The EU’s energy policies have been a costly and ineffective failure, and this was easily predictable – and in fact WAS PREDICTED in an article written by my-co-authors and me in 2002, as follows:
“THE ULTIMATE AGENDA OF PRO-KYOTO ADVOCATES IS TO ELIMINATE FOSSIL FUELS, BUT THIS WOULD RESULT IN A CATASTROPHIC SHORTFALL IN GLOBAL ENERGY SUPPLY – THE WASTEFUL, INEFFICIENT ENERGY SOLUTIONS PROPOSED BY KYOTO ADVOCATES SIMPLY CANNOT REPLACE FOSSIL FUELS.”
Source:
DEBATE ON THE KYOTO ACCORD
PEGG, reprinted in edited form at their request by several other professional journals, the Globe and Mail and La Presse in translation, by Baliunas, Patterson and MacRae.
http://www.friendsofscience.org/assets/documents/KyotoAPEGA2002REV1.pdf
Wind and solar power do NOT contribute significant economic (dispatchable) electric power to the grid. This is a simple, proved fact, yet tens of trillions of dollars have been wasted globally on this green energy nonsense, much of it in the EU.
16 YEARS AGO, WE TOLD YOU SO – YOU EU IDIOTS! Since then, skyrocketing energy costs have increased fuel poverty and contributed to more than a million Excess Winter Deaths across the EU.
Regarding weather forecasts, Mr Agnew says the Met Office and the University of East Anglia in the UK have consistently provided overly-warm weather forecasts, and his crops have suffered from these false reports. I accept that his hypothesis as probable for now, but has anyone documented it – this should be easy to prove or disprove.
I do know that in the USA and Canada, our weather offices have been spectacularly wrong when predicting warm winters. Here is one such example:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/05/climate-scientist-air-pollution-cleanup-may-be-major-driver-of-global-warming/#comment-2365792
[excerpt]
One of my friends and co-authors is Joe d’Aleo, an American Weather Forecaster who was the Founding Chief Meteorologist for the Weather Channel.
The National Weather Service (NWS) of the USA forecast a warm winter for 2014-15 and Joe told me in October 2014 that the NWS forecast was seriously incorrect, and that the next winter would be particularly cold and snowy, especially in the populous Northeast. This was the second consecutive year that the NWS has made a highly incorrect (excessively warm) Winter forecast, in Joe’s opinion – and he and his colleagues at WeatherBell have an outstanding track record of accurate forecasts.
Joe and I had been working together on a paper on Excess Winter Mortality, and I suggested to Joe that this false “warm winter” NWS forecast was dangerous, especially if the country and its people were unprepared. Joe agreed, but did not know how to tackle the problem.
I proposed an approach, and we prepared a presentation for my friend at the US Energy Information Administration (EIA). At the EIA’s request, Joe then prepared his own Winter Forecast by month and by region, and the EIA re-ran their Winter Energy Demand calculations. Using Joe’s forecast, the EIA projected 11% more total winter energy required for the entire USA than the “warm” NWS forecast had projected. That is an awful lot of energy – mostly oil, natural gas and coal.
After that brutally cold and snowy winter, a back-analysis showed that the actual winter energy used was 10% more than the projection using the NWS weather forecast, and just 1% less than that using Joe’s forecast.
I’m not sure if we saved any lives, but I still think we did a good deed.
Regards, Allan
We need more goats for the volcano.
Certainly, by all means, let them decline to debate skeptics. Let them call us all names. We’ve already had an extensive public debate on what to do about CAGW, and the doomsayers have lost. Sure, they’ll get some governments here and there to waste enough money to earn their votes, but nobody is really going along with their hair-brained, futile gestures, or with their lame attempt to interrupt the global climate cycle. Whatever evidence they think may exist for their alarmism, it is insufficient to justify expensive measures to de-carbonize the global economy.
climate
scientists sayactivists bleat.Fixed it for you.
It is clear that this guy is absolutely ignorant of what he talks about, as usual with politicians. Perhaps he should stick to farming.
Did all the UKIP supporters come in or why the magnificient vote counts, even one for Javier for stating the obvious? The guy is not the brightest candle, but that is your MEP to you. They ARE all idiots.
I love you dude. Come again and say something!
Hugs said:
“why the magnificient vote counts, even one for Javier for stating the obvious?”
A lot of people want ideological affirmation. It’s a team sport.
“He’s making us all look like idiots”
no poppet, you did that all on your own. He’s just shown a spotlight on your idiocy.
It’s the sanctimoniousness that is so cloying. None of them care that the predictions have all been incorrect. None of them care that climate policy makes the poor poorer without having any effect on the climate. None of them knows that the catastrophists predicted a new ice age as late as 1977 (despite being reminded) because fossil fuels are purported to both warm and cool the planet by utterly guesstimated amounts that are manipulated to better match the current temperature chart.
The clincher lies in the ad hominem attacks
Underneath all of this lies the University of East Anglia’s fraudulent claims and subsequent attempt at covering up their misdeeds. Pure greed and financial motivations. Pity about their biofuel experiment.
No one wants to comment on this bit?
“The Agnew report calls for a €5.45bn green fund called Life to be used to prepare “for an impending Maunder Minimum” – or a period of low sunspot activity.”
Extremely rational use of the funds if you ask me.
“I threw my hat in the ring to do this [report] fully expecting to be thrown out of court,” but that he then received wide support, “to my genuine astonishment”.
That support didn’t just appear overnight. And there is no way that the finished report would have seen the light of day, if that wasn’t the intention of some one – or some group – within the EU.. Very Strange
In the interests of fairness, may I say that summer 2018 in SE England has been rather Mediterranean, however February and March were closer to Central European in nature, with frosts in late March delaying vegetable planting.
If we take an alternative hypothesis that solar inputs, oceanic modulations and geomagnetic influences create a climate demonstrating cyclical beats of differing amplitudes and frequencies, then we may ask a simple question:
Does an 18.6 year solar/linar beat bring extreme weather around once every 20 years and if so, may any useful predictions be made about winter 2018/19?
We in the UK recall the extreme winter of 1962/3, remember the record cold of December 1981, the extreme snowfall event in the Alps in February 1999 and wonder if anything might happen this year.
We compare the Easterlies of March 1962 and March 2018 and wonder if any similarities to winter 1962/3 are about to manifest themselves.
We remember that 1962/3 was close to solar minimum and note we are close to solar minimum right now.
All of this is simplistic correlation. Using the 18.6 year beat.
The 22 year beat saw cold winters in 1984/5 and 1985/6, around 22 years after 1962/3. December 2010 was 22 years after a very mild Uk winter…
Time will tell, but the hypothesis to be tested/refuted is that UK winter 2018/19 will maybe be cold and snowy based on the 18.6 year solar/lunar beat.