This was unexpected. Alarmists are starting to eat their own over Trump. From “Scientific American”, a once great magazine.
Bill Nye Does Not Speak for Us and He Does Not Speak for Science
By attending the State of the Union with NASA administrator nominee Jim Bridenstine, the Science Guy tacitly endorses climate denial, intolerance and attacks on science
By 500 Women Scientists on January 30, 2018
Tonight, Bill Nye “The Science Guy” will accompany Republican Rep. Jim Bridenstine (R-OK), Trump’s nominee for NASA Administrator, to the State of the Union address. Nye has said that he’s accompanying the Congressman to help promote space exploration, since, he asserts, “NASA is the best brand the United States has” and that his attendance “should not be … seen as an acceptance of the recent attacks on science and the scientific community.”
But by attending the SOTU as Rep. Bridenstine’s guest, Nye has tacitly endorsed those very policies, and put his own personal brand over the interests of the scientific community at large. Rep. Bridenstine is a controversial nominee who refuses to state that climate change is driven by human activity, and even introduced legislation to remove Earth sciences from NASA’s scientific mission. Further, he’s worked to undermine civil rights, including pushing for crackdowns on immigrants,a ban on gay marriage, and abolishing the Department of Education.
As scientists, we cannot stand by while Nye lends our community’s credibility to a man who would undermine the United States’ most prominent science agency. And we cannot stand by while Nye uses his public persona as a science entertainer to support an administration that is expressly xenophobic, homophobic, misogynistic, racist, ableist, and anti-science.
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The true shame is that Bill Nye remains the popular face of science because he keeps himself in the public eye. To be sure, increasing the visibility of scientists in the popular media is important to strengthening public support for science, but Nye’s TV persona has perpetuated the harmful stereotype that scientists are nerdy, combative white men in lab coats—a stereotype that does not comport with our lived experience as women in STEM. And he continues to wield his power recklessly, even after his recent endeavors in debate and politics have backfired spectacularly.
Wow, harsh. Read the full excoriation here: https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/bill-nye-does-not-speak-for-us-and-he-does-not-speak-for-science/
h/t to WUWT reader Clyde Spencer
I’m fairly certain I posted this yesterday before anyone else commented on it, regarding the left eating their own. But alas since I’m not so status quo statist like most of the commenters, even though I’m anti CAGW, my posts are removed. Nice.
Glad to see that my comments don’t meet the muster because they aren’t identical in allotment with other anti-CAGW commenters
Moderating like the left?
honestliberty,
RE: “Moderating like the left?” Probably not….
I’m not a lefty socialist and about 1 in 6 of my comments here have some glitch. Usually the ‘glitch’ comments just take 10 minutes to hours before they appear in the comment queue. Rarely, they do not appear at all. Others have complained of similar glitches… it does not appear to correlate with politically oriented perspective. Hang in there!
(Honestliberty,J Mac and Clyde Spencer, I went through the trash bin for the entire month of January and the spam list is empty none of you have anything missing in the last 30+ days) MOD
I am the one who alerted Anthony to this SciAm article, and I have had comments disappear regularly. Some never do show up. I think it has something to do with quantum spin states.
MOD,
This month I don’t recall any comments that ‘disappeared’ permanently. My recollection is I have had 5 or 6 that did not show up right after hitting the ‘post comment/post reply’ buttons. These showed up in the comment queues 10 minutes to hours later. I’m not griping in the least, just informing a frustrated fellow commenter that these glitches are not politically oriented censure.
I have posts disappear on a regular basis. About one in every 15 or 20 posts. Sometimes they show up later, and sometimes they don’t.
PS: I believe the Nargles hid them…. or perhaps microscopic black holes intersected the bit stream.
Ok excellent, and like I said if I was wondering my sincerest apologies. Therefore, I sincerely apologise.
I want to reiterate my praise and thanks for all who add to this site
MOD (Charles?),
I did complain about a recent missing submission and you said you were traveling but would try to take care of it. After A couple days, I notified Anthony and he took care of it. It seems that things disappear less frequently than formerly, but it still happens.
“Moderating like the left?”
Absolutely not. Anthony and crew are the most accommodating, laissez-faire hosts I’ve ever encountered. If there’s censorship going on, it’s WordPress’ doing. Sometimes lags between post and publish happen for some unexplained reason. Happens to us all.
The only times that I’ve had a post stuck in moderation was apparently when I used verboten words while posting in a less than cheerful mood. (As far as I can tell there are only a few of those triggers and the reasons are understandable.)
And one time when, after wondering what I had said wrong, I realized that I had forgotten to click the post button. That will do it every time!
Good to know. I figured maybe it would be considered off topic or taboo.
Either way lesson learned
It’s a bummer because I even thanked Anthony for the great work but the post doesn’t go through?
Maybe my phone isn’t working right and if so my sincerest apologies
Apparently, there’s some quirky stuff about WordPress that sometimes tosses our comments into the cyber dumpster. Demons? I don’t know, but I’ve learned not to take it personally. Happened to me just yesterday.
Ok, I thought maybe my messages were considered off topic.
But I’m glad this article got the coverage. This site is a Godsend. Now, if only these believers would investigate the evidence and use reason. There msm press is strong propaganda though
They seem to come in clusters as well. Months with no problems, then all of sudden every third post disappears for a day.
There is no “crackdown” on “immigrants”, only those who are illegal. Why do these presumably intelligent individuals not embrace a merit-based immigration policy?
“Ableist”? Really?
They are after immigrants who will support left wing policies.
The long list of things that the 500 women accuse Nye of being reminds me of the funniest piece of slogan graffiti which appeared on a long stretch of wall alongside the circle line of London’s tube. Passengers were able to read a long piece of feminist script which (I don’t remember the exact text) went something like “ Women rise up and resist the opppressive male capitalist fascist state and break your chains”. In big capital letters.
At the end some naughty person had added the postscript “yes dear”.
Everyone I ever saw read it smiled.
Every time Nye blunders his way into the news, it makes me long for the days of Don Herbert… Mr Wizard taught real science. Today’s youth audience needs another Don Herbert. The adult audience, too.
Everybody knows that the best way to convince people of your point of view is to completely have nothing to do with them, their friends, family, dogs, or houseplants…
And its super effective to also alienate anyone that tries to pass on your views as well.
The Non-Science tv personality Performed by Bill Nye has no credibility to lend to NASA and NASA’s Climatoid branch has less to spare.
These lefty hate mongers with their “anyone who disagrees with us is a racist bigot homophobe poopyhead and really icky and deserves to DIEDIEDIE” attitude are so amusing.
Ha ha ha ha …. and Billl Nye also kicked my dog!
“…… And we cannot stand by while Nye uses his public persona as a science entertainer to support an administration that is expressly xenophobic, homophobic, misogynistic, racist, ableist, and anti-science…..”.
Aw c’mon ladies. Don’t hold anything back. Let it all out…..
…..and the statement from the 500 women scientists demonstrates how deeply that they have embedded themselves in politics, although I have no problem seeing them raking Nye across the coals. I have the been around the block enough times in life to seriously suspect that politics is every bit as good at corrupting science as it is everything else. When (not if) we see this happen, science has a very serious problem and has lost its way.
When and how this can ever be corrected is perhaps not something that is not easily answered. Maybe getting govt tax $$$ out of science would be a start, but the howls of objection to it would probably make the idea difficult to implement.
Oops. Not something that is easily corrected.
The End is Nigh…
and the Nye is Ended!
The article is authored by : 500 Women Scientists
500 Women Scientists is a grassroots organization started by four women who met in graduate school at CU Boulder and who maintained friendships and collaborations after jobs and life took them away from Boulder. Immediately following the November 2016 election, we published an open letter re-affirming our commitment to speak up for science and for women, minorities, immigrants, people with disabilities, and LGBTQIA. The mission of 500 Women Scientists is to serve society by making science open, inclusive, and accessible.
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Another Open Society astroturf?
The department of education should be abolished, it’s become completely overrun by regressive socialists, a modern fork of Marxism which is some twisted hybrid of Communism and Fascism.
If you dig the web on them, they turn out to be, surprise surprise, an activist group, not just random scientists signing a petition.
I saw this earlier and thought about forwarding it to you. These days, it’s not only what you say and believe, but also with whom you associate. This is a good lesson for Bill.
You sleep with dogs and you catch fleas? The dog here being a US congressman.
not for nye et al. you sleep with dogs, you get an emmy.
Remove the dog’s fleas. They make excellent bed warmers and cuddle buddies (Pomeranian anyway).
Interesting trivia re. 500 Women Scientists. Their website states founded by 4 women friends in November 2016. Then it lists the co-founders: Kelly Ramirez and Jane Zelikova. Only 2 women? What happened to their two other friends? They quit after only a year? LOL
Reading their article here, I see why. The two quitters are probably more sensible and don’t want to be associated with these people.
“500 Women Scientists” vs. 2 women scientists (Judith Curry & Sallie Baliunas)
Kelly and Jane, will you debate them on global warming?
The credentials:
Kelly Ramirez
PhD in Ecology, University of Colorado
Postdoc Netherlands Institute of Ecology
Jane Zelikova
BS Ecology
Fellow AAAS
Judith Curry
BS Geography (cum laude), North Illinois University
PhD Geophysical Sciences, University of Chicago
Professor & former Chair of School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences, Georgia Tech
Professor of Atmospheric & Oceanic Sciences, University of Colorado
Co-author of textbook, Thermodynamics of Atmospheres & Oceans
Co-editor, Encyclopedia of Atmospheric Sciences
Henry G. Houghton Research Award from AMS
Sallie Baliunas
MS Astrophysics, Harvard
PhD Astrophysics, Harvard
Astrophysicist, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
Professor, Tennessee State University
Director, Mt. Wilson Observatory
Board Member, Marshall Institute
Donald E. Billings Award in Astro-Geophysics, University of Colorado
Langley Abbot Fellowship, Smithsonian Institution
Bok Prize, Harvard University
Newton Lacy Pierce Prize in Astronomy, American Astronomical Society
One of America’s outstanding women scientists, Discover magazine
Wesson Fellow, Stanford University
Kelly and Jane, debate or chicken?
I know which two ladies I would rather emulate. Credentials and competency for the win!
Perhaps someone at SciAm saw this and realized they can’t possibly sink low enough to equal it.
From the article: “ableist”
Well, I learned a new word. Never seen this one before today. Apparently an ableist discriminates against those with disabilities.
It’s hard to keep up with the wordsmiths on the Left. They are always coming up with new ways to claim Republicans are discriminatory.
You know the Left is losing when they start playing the race/discrimination card against the Right. That’s where we are at now.
i pine for the day when i could parody these guys.
I am so many “ists” that it would exceed even wordpress generous quota to list them all. I’d much rather have an aircraft pilot with functioning eyes, ears, hands and feet than to be missing any of these parts and abilities.
Scientific American’s accelerating decline started about when Martin Gardner retired “Mathematical Games”. Sad!
This group, 500 women, claims to speak for women, minorities; basically everything you are not. But look at the photo of the board and count the poor, the oppressed, the minorities among them. After all, it’s Boulder, Colorado. Where exactly are you going to find poor, oppressed minorities in Boulder?
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/582cce42bebafbfc47a82b04/t/5a5821df08522969d73d1b59/1515725326381/Meet+the+500+Women+Scientist+Board
exactly.
Looks like only 6 of them got the T-shirt.
My bet is they have diplomas from a community college in the social sciences and work at Starbucks.
Now don’t be condescending – everyone has value – “you are a child of the universe”, etc.
While I agree that Bill Nye the Anti-Science guy is a clown, this group is no better. “500 women scientists”??? This was a letter written by one or two persons, debatable whether they were scientists at all. In fact, they simply proved the old joke about 500 monkeys with typewriters…
Is Bill Nye the Turncoat Guy leaving the sinking ship USS Global Warming?
“When the water reaches the upper level, follow the rats.“
– Claude Swanson (1862 – 1939)
and put his own personal brand over the interests of the scientific community at large
The funny thing is, they seem to think this is the first time he’s done that. If they only knew…
Hoist by his own petard. It couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy. Aren’t these loony lefties truly nauseating..?
Fancy being associated with a congressman. I’ve lost all respect for the man. Loser.
Scientific American excoriates Bill Nye
Anthony, I think you should not say “Scientific American”, as it is an anonymous blog hosted at the Scientific American site.
It could be best said that the responsibles at SciAm have given a platform to extreme orthodoxes, thus passively promoting these extreme views. It is notable, that much of the far side extremism resides in blogs, columns and other soft sources. While they are much quoted and thus modify the opinions of big-green supporters, we must remember at the second they are proven harmful to alarmists, they become back solitary opinions that they are.
Bill Nye of course can not speak for scientists, as he’s a TV performer, not a scientist, but this is not the point. The point is that Bill Nye did something that the orthodox SJWs don’t want to accept, and exactly because Bill Nye is a card-carrying member of the alarmism house, along others like Al Gore, Katharine Hayhoe, Michael E Mann, James Hansen, he is immediately being attacked for any deviation. Any sign of compromising cannot be accepted by these people. Talking to Bridenstine is not allowed. This is the time to get to arms, not to talk, right?
Every time I read these, I tend to wear my far-side spectacles.
* crackdown => I think these is a missing word there, referring to seriously unlawful actions at the border control.
* gay marriage => While I have a transsex person in family, I think calling it marriage is basically just a way to insult some people. I wish my cousin-in-law happy life with his spouse.
* abolishing => right, it appears somebody wants to stop some harm done by government. I’m interested, because usually you can both save money and get rid of annoying bureaucracy by abolishing a government department. It is seldom you have a chance to do that.
Oh, it could be Bridenstine is doing something wrong, no doubt. But overselling it makes me think he’s probably the right man doing some important stuff.
What I missed from this account is why a GOP politician would bring Bill Nye as his guest to the SOTU address in the first place. Normally “guests” are present to make a point (e.g. Dems brought illegal aliens to gain sympathy for their opposition to DJT’s immigration control proposals).
What was the point to be made by Nye’s presence? Has he promoted NASA or a like agency recently?