Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Mainstream Media demonstrating their lack of listening skills.
President Trump’s Paris U-turn: I’d love to rejoin climate change accord
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By Piers Morgan For The Mail On Sunday
PUBLISHED: 10:31 AEDT, 28 January 2018 | UPDATED: 11:05 AEDT, 28 January 2018
President Trump caused outrage when he pulled America out of the Paris Accord on tackling climate change.
Last week, French President Emmanuel Macron said it was impossible for any country, including the US, to now try to renegotiate the terms.
But Trump told me he’d ‘love’ to go back in, if the deal can be renegotiated. ‘For you, is it about the science or about the money?’ I asked. ‘I think it’s about everything,’ Trump replied. ‘I’m a believer in clean air and clean water. The Paris Accord, for us, would have been a disaster.’
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‘Do you believe in climate change? Do you think it exists?’
‘There is a cooling and there’s a heating. I mean, look, it used to not be climate change, it used to be global warming. That wasn’t working too well because it was getting too cold all over the place.
‘The icecaps were going to melt, there were going to be gone by now, but now they’re setting records, OK? They’re at a record level. I’ll tell you what I believe in. I believe in clean air. I believe in crystal-clear, beautiful water. I believe in just having good cleanliness in all.
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How can Trump’s Paris renegotiation demand possibly be considered a “u-turn”? Trump has said since he announced the withdrawal from the Paris Agreement that he would consider re-entering the agreement on renegotiated terms.
Obviously it would be more satisfying for climate skeptics to see President Trump make a clean and final break with the Paris Agreement. However a re-entry on say the terms agreed by China and India (no action before 2030) would likely satisfy President Trump’s requirement, that international agreements do not put the USA at a competitive disadvantage.
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Eric, you are right that this is not a U-turn. Re China and India, they are doing two things: 1 they are kicking the can down the road and utilizing the opportunity to get in some sound bite hits against the USA, and 2. they have no intention of ever doing anything that hurts their economy as both are low profit margin, but huge quantity, economies. Getting back into the Paris Agreement would give President Trump an opportunity to engineer a clean environment agreement, pass it by Congress, and let everyone else lose some talking points.
It always amazes me how many supposedly “smart” people cannot see what Trump is doing with these statements, even though it is so painfully obvious. First, remember that this Paris agreement is a complete fraud that in fact will do nothing, and that the only important part was where the US agreed to transfer hundreds of billions of dollars to other countries to do whatever they want with.
The one and only thing that matters in this agreement in any real world sense is that promise by the US to be a fountain of cash. Trump says he will never do this, and so he’s pulling out. He has said “Renegotiate” means that the US will not be handing out any more cash than anybody else does, but other than that he’ll agree to the rest.
Trump can agree to ANYTHING – Trump can offer ANYTHING (except the money, which is what he will never offer) and he is guaranteed that the Euro’s and the rest of the world will shoot the proposal down – because just like Trump, they know that the only REAL part of this is the part about the money, and the rest is just a big, bad, PR joke. Trump is offereing them a deal they have to refuse – because to accept it would destroy all of their real world kleptocratic support.
Trump is doing the same thing with the DACA negotiations – he offers the other side what they claim they want, because in fact they do NOT want that at all, they want things that will make them look bad if they admit them in public. The international Climatistas will never admit openly that this entire mess is all about extorting money from Uncle Sugar – and so now that Trump is offering them everything EXCEPT the money, they are turning him down, because that is the ONLY thing they really want, and they know it – just like Trump knows it.
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” when he pulled America out of the Paris Accord ”
It’s not a U-turn because never actually DID ANYTHING to pull USA out, he only stated that he intended to. Not the same thing. So having misreported his previous position they can now state that his “new” position , which is just the same as his previous position, is a U-turn.
That’s the way the lying FAKE NEWS media system works.
Paris with a re-entered Trump would not be Paris anymore for the hypocrite European climate-saviours, but Canossa.
It is not possible to re-negotiate Paris. The signatory nations would then open a veritable can of worms. Just imagine negotioations with Trump’s delegation who ask pertinent questions about the state of science behind Paris. It would be a huge advantage for sceptics. The whole charade of alarmism would risk being exposed.
Maybe by 2030 the sheeple will have seen sense and binned this nonsense once and for all.
BY 2030 China’s population will have stopped growing, so even by doing nothing after 2030, China’s CO2 emissions will stop increasing (and that’s all they’ve committed to do in deference to the gullible warming cause; to stop their emissions growing after 2030).
In other words China has agreed to ‘do’ precisely three fifths of five eights of sweet FA and for that courageous promise, the gullible warming believers lead by Obummer have been queueing up to congratulate China for their environmental leadership.
If this whole rock-show wasn’t such an appalling squander of OPM, it would make an excellent basis of a Monty-Python style slapstick comedy.
India’s population is almost equal to China’s now and in a few years will surpass China’s population. India may become a 2 billion person nation someday soon.
In addition, India is a parliamentary democracy, their citizens enjoy freedom of religion, freedom of the press, freedom of speech, etc. They can critisize their government without fear of being arrested, imprisoned and potentially executed.
It makes me wonder why we do so much business with China, while India, an ally, is right next door.
China still has a very large population that still has a lot of ground to cover in terms of increased wealth and welfare. As these millions catch up with the urbanized rest, co2 emissions are very likely to go on rising.
China’s population may stop growing, but their economy won’t. China still has a lot of poor people who want a shot at a middle class lifestyle.
I think the majority of people have already seen sense, it just needs to filter down to the politicians at the bottom of the swamp!
@ur momisugly Klem 4:13
Beyond 20 years, population projections have issues, but:
India to peak about 2050, at about 1.75 B, then decline.
Nigeria is expected to become the 3rd largest just before 2050, and reach 1/2 B about 2065.
Other serious issues, such as Russia’s declining population ought not be forgotten.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/271340/population-growth-in-russia/
and
https://www.indexmundi.com/g/g.aspx?c=rs&v=25
So their birth rate is increasing off the bottom during the collapse 1990’s
Read between the lines. Nothing Trump said above indicates he buys the theory that human-emitted CO2 is driving any warming. Nothing. He evaded, he swerved, he ducked and dived. True Believers come right out and say it…’settled science’…’the debate is over’…’97%’…and so on.
Trump doesn’t buy it even for one single second.
and iron man musk will incinerate global warming with his new solar powered flame thrower.
One Per Child!
“Read between the lines.”?
Maybe we can start with the lines themselves and see if we can figure out what he’s saying.
The ice caps are at record levels?
He didn’t say high or low, did he? The guy is a master troll. Regardless, they were predicted to be gone by 2015 or thereabout, yet there they still are.
Anyway, I hate the phrasing “Do you believe in [insert scientific hypothesis/theory here]?”, eg. “Do you believe in evolution?”; “Do you believe in climate change?” Do I “believe” in gravitational theory? No. I believe that gravitational theory is our best model of how gravity works, but I don’t believe in it like it was Santa Claus or The Easter Bunny. In the case of climate change, I don’t have to believe anything; the proof of it is everywhere to be seen on the Earth. Unlike the modifications done to Newtonian physics to account for velocities approaching the speed of light, we know — for sure, end of story — that the Earth’s climate changes over time. Nothing to believe there. Are humans causing/accelerating it with CO2 output? Well, there’s your need for believing right there, because there sure isn’t any evidence for it.
He may have been right, if you include the growth in Antarctica ice to the loss in the Arctic. There has been a quick analysis before on these pages. I’m not the right one to re-perform it.
‘He may have been right, if you include the growth in Antarctica ….’
East Antarctica has been increasing mass balance since 1900, the end of the Little Ice Age in the Southern Hemisphere.
Coincidence? I think not.
College students give negative reviews for Trumps state of the union speech.
A speech that hasn’t even been given yet.
https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10442
Modern leftists no longer even pretend that they are thinking for themselves.
They are told who to hate, and they obligingly hate.
In fact, it sounded to me like Trump was ridiculing the idea. I got the feeling Trump must be reading WUWT because he repeated the same kind of talking points you would see here.
Trump reads? Do you have any evidence of that assertion? I’m under the impression that all he does is watch TV.
Do you think seriously, C. Paul Pierett?
ristvan says it well:
“He knows Macron and Merkel said no renegotiation. So his offer is just a chess gambit, knowing full well it won’t happen.”
Trump is exposing their close minded attitude, while he defends Americas position from economic standpoint.
I get the impression that you underestimate Trumps intelligence.
Anybody that self proclaims themselves a “stable genius” is pretty dumb.
“David Dirkse January 28, 2018 at 12:20 pm
Anybody that self proclaims themselves a “stable genius” is pretty dumb.”
please explain the reasoning. i’m very interested in this phenomenon.
once upon a time The Safe Subject was weather. now it’s very hard to find safe topics in a minefield of litmus tests and very hair triggers.
i’m trying to understand the etiology of it. it seems to have evolved from sesame street children of disney parents. when it’s ‘normal’ to pretend things are not what they are and that wishes are considered goals and even accomplishments, it seems the consciousness loses it’s moorings and seeks to fasten on anything to relieve the fear of uncertainty – even simple aphorisms whose part in any chain of cause & effect is little more than a temporary tattoo.
as there are effusively friendly drunks or hostile drunks, the Avenue Q cohort might be the other end of this spectrum?
i do know what it takes for a liberal apostasy, so be assured that this is not a trick question to engage in an attempt to persuade anyone of anything. i don’t save souls…lol
“please explain the reasoning”…pretty simple, geniuses do not have the vocabulary of a 7th grader: https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/most-presidential-candidates-speak-at-grade-6-8-level-300237139.html#
thanks for the reply. it didn’t increase my understanding, but that’s on me…
are you familiar with Poe’s Law, btw?
Dunning Kruger would be much more applicable than Poe to someone that self assesses themselves as a “genius”
Poor David, still hasn’t caught on why Trump said that..
Are you, perhaps, a journalist, David ? 😉
twice you’ve said “someone that self assesses themselves as a “genius” ”
therefore may i conclude the deliberate use of 3rd grade grammar is intentional parody?
.if this happens because english is a second language to you, please forgive – and ‘bravo!’
Leftists have a congenital need to believe that anyone who disagrees with them is stupid, and only smart people are on their side.
It’s easier than dealing with all the failures of leftist policies/
CheshireRed
TRUMP PULLED OUT OF THE PARIS ACCORDS
and mentioned not one thing about the junk science
nor did the EPA head Scott Pruitt.
Either cowards or dummies
— both of them
All he had to say was CO2 does not cause global warming, there has been massive model failure, but he didn’t and I blame his daughter.
Where is your red team Donald?
Its easy to lose faith in politicians, they never fail to disappoint.
Of course he is wrong about this:
“‘The icecaps were going to melt, there were going to be gone by now, but now they’re setting records, OK? They’re at a record level.”
The Arctic summer sea ice, yes, but nobody ever said that the ice caps, like Greenland the Antarctic would be gone by 2018. But who cares? He just confronts empty propaganda with the same low quality statements.
They did say that the Arctic ice cap would be gone by now.
But who cares about accuracy when you have a fantasy to defend.
Trump does give a hoot about theory or truth. He will do the same as on immigration. It will be a complete surrender to climate warriors and painted as smart negotiation.
Prepare to be stabbed in the back, if you can.
Notice he made the extremely important point about “Global Warming” morphing in to Climate Change.
Nobody can possibly refute “climate change”, because it is always doing so.
But he made the distinction on what started the whole IPCC onslaught, ie CAGW.
Yes AC Osborn. The “belief” changed from something easy to refute (that the world will continue to warm) due to some imaginary tipping point to the climate changes (which is a strawman argument) since that is a fact, since climate changes.
This then leads to the strawman conclusion that there are climate d-e-n-i-e-r-s!
It is a president playing politics. I don’t believe the POTUS will do a thing to intentionally harm the US economy and any meaningful concession on the Paris Accord would do just that. What he says must always be taken in the context of what else he has said. And he could not have made it clearer that the economic growth, in part founded on the energy independence of the United States is priority 1 in his address.
He knows Macron and Merkel said no renegotiation. So his offer is just a chess gambit, knowing full well it won’t happen.
Bingo- while pointing out the failures and goal post moving of the CAGW cabal.
Which countries have pledged the most?
US (Obama) – $3bn / Japan – $1.5bn / UK – $1.2bn
France – $1bn / Germany – $1bn
As all contributions are voluntary, and the EU is getting all benefits from their leadership in renewables, it should be easy for M&M to satisfy financial needs of dictators and bureaucrats.
Quite right, they would never dare let that fox into the hen house. He could start asking difficult questions! He could rock the boat! He, after all, does not risk losing lots of money by not toeing the party line, quite the contrary.
Trump could in fact unravel the whole Paris deal, simply be implying that those poor countries who are in there for the buks, could get a better deal by him. That can’t be allowed.
In Australia he’d be called a sh*t stirrer and in Canada a sh*t disturber… one who makes a statement that will get the desired reaction. The Democrats and the MSM keep falling for it… Trump must be getting bored, they’re all too easy.
I would add that the POTUS in his invitation to the rest to come along and join the economic renewal based on capitalist principles, was not really an invitation. It was a warning. He was really saying, get your ducks and order and come along or suffer the consequences and be left behind. The more I hear this president the more it becomes obvious that his mastery at making deals has also made him a master of understanding how to use the iron fist of power encased in the velvet glove of diplomacy.
agree 100%…you also have to watch how Trump works it…..he baits the liberals every time….gets them to show their real positions…
Yup.
the terms agreed by China and India, which in effect require them to do nothing after 2030 expect think about if they may do something .
Frankly these two countries are simply not buying into AGW, accept as a means to extract guilt cash out the west or a means to drive their competitors out of business. That China as a become an ‘co’ of the greens is merely a reflection of their often water mellow nature.
The “Deal” agreed by China and India was to Double and Treble (respectively) their CO2 emissions between 2015 and 2030.
That was part of the 46% INCREASE in CO2 emissions by 2030 that was agreed by the signatories to the Paris Climate Agreement.
And yet the Propaganda that was fed out from Paris was that this was Reducing CO2 emissions to limit temperature rise. What All of those signatorieshave made clear is that they know very well that a 46% increase in man’s CO2 emissions will not alter the climate in any way at all; it’s all about reshaping (downsizing or removing) developed nations’ industries and transferring jobs, manufacturing and money to developing nations like India and China.
Unreliable renewables are the key means of forcing that reshaping of industry through unaffordable energy costs (as well as its unreliability – see Southern Australia) regardless of the fact that it their own electorates that are paying the price through energy poverty and current and future job losses.
Old England
As concise an analysis as I’ve seen.
2030 that’s a lot of water under the bridge, and maybe a near double body count ! Lets hope that they do not breathe, a personnel “carry with you ” re-breathing system ?
Mr. Trump is making sense: Focus on REAL pollution, NOT on increasing atmospheric CO2, which is entirely beneficial.
Demonizing atmospheric CO2, the basis of life on Earth, is the obsession of scoundrels and imbeciles.
I published this in 2002:
“Instead of Kyoto, a new global anti-pollution initiative should be drafted by people who have a much better understanding of science, industry and the environment. It should focus, not on global warming and CO2, but on real atmospheric pollutants such as SO2, NOx and particulates as well as pollutants in the water and soil — and no country should be exempt.”
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/01/10/polar-sea-ice-changes-are-having-a-net-cooling-effect-on-the-climate/#comment-74283
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Europeans are freezing from cold temperatures and the results of incompetent energy policies, since they have relied on intermittent wind power when they really needed fossil fuels or nuclear power to survive.
Here is one of my newspaper articles from 2002. It is a much more accurate indicator of recent climatic events than the IPCC reports, and includes a prediction of global cooling.
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My predictions on energy are proving correct. If I were to make any changes, I would be more negative on wind power and corn ethanol than in this article – based on further research on the very low “Substitution Factor” of wind power, and the very low energy efficiency of corn ethanol. In general, I do not support energy technologies that require ongoing operating subsidies, that mask the fact that these technologies are wasteful and uneconomic.
It is deeply regrettable that politicians worldwide have been so badly advised on this critical issue for the survival of our societies.
Best regards, Allan
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Kyoto hot air can’t replace fossil fuels
Allan M.R. MacRae
Calgary Herald
September 1, 2002
The Kyoto Accord on climate change is probably the most poorly crafted piece of legislative incompetence in recent times.
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Instead of Kyoto, a new global anti-pollution initiative should be drafted by people who have a much better understanding of science, industry and the environment. It should focus, not on global warming and CO2, but on real atmospheric pollutants such as SO2, NOx and particulates as well as pollutants in the water and soil — and no country should be exempt.
Then there might be a chance to actually improve the environment, rather than making it worse and wasting billions on the fatally flawed Kyoto Accord.
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We don’t need a global agreement, accord, initiative, or whatever you want to call it on pollution, as polltion is the business of individual countries. And we know that it is wealth more than anything else that creates the ability to clean up one’s environment.
Allan replied:
True Bruce, we don’t NEED anything. But now, countries like China are pollution havens, and this gives them an unfair advantage in industrial costs, and poses a greater health burden on their people.
It is a matter of human rights, above all, that countries spend a certain amount of their money on control of REAL pollution (not CO2). A statement of BASIC international objectives would be helpful, without a system of penalties, and without the excessive creeping tighter-and-tighter guidelines that the radical leftists have imposed on the Western democracies in an attempt to stifle industry and society.
After thirty years of carbon hysteria by scoundrels and imbeciles, we need to get back to basics – to what really matters – to control REAL pollution.
Bruce wrote:
2. And we know that it is wealth more than anything else that creates the ability to clean up one’s environment.
Allan replied:
True Bruce – see #1 above
“But now, countries like China are pollution havens,”
They wouldn’t be, if we hadn’t shipped most of our manufacturing there because of the AGW nonsense. There’s no need for yet another bloody ‘international agreement’ that will be abused to trash the economies of the West, when we can just put tarrifs on imports from China until they stop polluting.
“and this gives them an unfair advantage in industrial costs, and poses a greater health burden on their people. ”
The health of their people is a matter for their people, not us. If they don’t care, why should we?
MarkG
“The health of their people is a matter for their people, not us. If they don’t care, why should we?”
China is looking for hand outs and concessions after generations of communistic failure. They chose what boat to row, and when it sank they expect the West to put on the development brakes to allow them to catch up.
Actually, it’s worse. They don’t expect the West to let them catch up, it’s the bleeding heart liberal westerners who demand the poor subjegated Chinese be absolved of their appallingly human rights violations over generations by giving them hand outs.
No wonder Trump says they are laughing at America, they can’t believe their luck!
The hollowing out of North American manufacturing happened because of excessive regulation here, and no regulation in China.
China had no pollution controls and no workers rights or human rights.
But now we have cheap energy and other cost advantages, like much lower shipping costs and other benefits of proximity to our market – so I suggest we can compete and rebuild manufacturing in North America.
However, we have to get rid of the extreme leftists in government and the civil service, who excel in harming free enterprise and reducing the cost-competitiveness of our industries. These destructive parasites have cost us dearly, both in profits and jobs.
Lets not forget the damage unions have done to the nations competitiveness.
Between unrealistic wage demands and asinine work rules, they had increased the cost of doing business in the US.
In order to do anything “globally,” or “nationally,” some people would have to be given power over other people… sort of the way it is now, don’t you think? The fact is that people having power over other people is the major reason for all the wars and state sponsored murder and torture that have accompanied it throughout history. There are NO “right people” to exercise this power.
The desire/lust/compulsion to control the lives and property of others is the root of all evil. Doesn’t matter what the stated motives or incentives are… control of others is the core problem. Can’t solve real problems by promoting more of the same.
If USA can renegotiate the same deal as China and India so should Australia and every other nation. The this climate change nonsense will be over.
The Paris Agreement is built on the shifting sands of the SatanicCO2 Memes and the resulting Babel Tower will eventually collapse, with history picking over the rubble .
Whatever your view on this President Trump is right to protect America from the ongoing consequences; as all leaders of countries should do for theirs.
I only wish the UK Government would follow suit and show some pragmatic guts amid this chaos of energy provision.
Hey Alasdair: did the UK just aquire a Government? Must have missed that. Have you got a link?
‘For you, is it about the science or about the money?’ When was it ever about the Science and not the money?
‘Do you believe in climate change? Do you think it exists?’ It’s a question that betrays ignorance of the issue. But it comes fully loaded with all the baggage of the CAGW nonsense. So there is a temptation to reject it out of hand, and that’s when the bait is switched. Mr. Trump did well to dodge that bullet, but it’s always a bit cringey listening to two people discussing something neither have much clue about.
This was never anything more than piggybacking off the US. A fair agreement means the leeches have to ante up and actually cut emissions. Never gonna happen.
I asked a question if the methane in the arctic would erupt.？
Here’s a link to an article posted a little while ago:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/01/17/study-arctic-ocean-methane-bomb-really-isnt-anything-to-worry-about/
What if the sky would fall?
Arctic Methane will continue to do what it has always done in the past. It will seep but not erupt or explode. As temperatures warm slightly, it will seep a little more than it would with colder temperatures. Any article you may have read claiming it will erupt or explode suddenly or violently has been written to Scare You into submission.
Trump talks in circles a lot using circuitous logic in a roundabout way.
And ends up winning. That is genius.
Yep
“circles”; “circuitous”; “roundabout”; … how about cyclic?
Like the Carbon Cycle of Life – the cycle that all life depends upon. Within the Carbon Cycle, there is only one singular throttle and that is CO2. Without CO2, there is no cycle of life.
cederhill,
You are a hard person to please.
Trump won an election which was rigged against him
He has pulled the USA out of the shit in just one year.
He is well on the way to making America great again.
And all you want to do is take heed of what is dished up by the lame-brained, left-wing media.
You are an A Grade dill.
Beautiful, glorious, ain’t it? Winning isn’t everything – it’s the only thing.
He’s just trying to give the D’s a bit of that “Hope” back that they miss from the previous guy. Think of Trump as Lucy, holding the ball for Charlie Brown to kick. They’ll keep coming back for that hopium stuff, every time. Endlessly entertaining.
He’s obliterating that previous guy and his legacy.
He’s obliterating that previous guy and his legacy.
Love the “Lucy holding the ball” analogy. In my view Trump is positioning for the next election. He can say that he thought the Paris Accords were bad for the US because we were funding the project with no reasonable agreement from India or China to cut their CO2 – this was just a money grab. There are still a lot of people that buy into the CAGW meme. In the next election cycle Trump can claim that he would have joined the Paris agreement if it had been fair. That positions him as a realist in the eyes of the uninformed public. I believe he has no intention of renegotiating since the other signers have stated that the will not renegotiate – perfect.
This is like the DACA ploy. The dems will never agree to building the wall, ending chain migration and ending the lottery. Now Trump can say that he offered a solution the DACA problem but the dems wouldn’t go along and refused to compromise. Brilliant.
Let’s hope we get seven more years of Trump and eight years of Pence. I suspect by then the globe will have cooled sufficiently (unfortunately) to put all of the CAGW BS to rest.
It’s nothing but UN one worlder evil. Trump needs to stay out of it.
It’s nothing new – he’s said pretty much the same thing from the beginning. I wish he wouldn’t refer to it as a “deal” though. We have absolutely nothing to gain, and everything to lose by signing anything, regardless of the terms.
Interesting viewpoint. Contracts and treaty serve some useful purpose, I would think. Buying houses, no dropping nuclear weapons on each other. Sure, they are abused and misused, but I can’t say I believe there is no way they are useful to the US and people.
It is the scientific exploitation of money.
If I were Donald I’d be laughing my head off at all the commentary
We all have things we would love to do, IF…..
The man is a class 1 troll. He’s using the ‘maybe/could/its possible that’ against the greens, poking fun at them and they dont even realise it.
Leo,
Your use of “troll” seems a bit off.
He stirs the hornet nest daily, or several times daily.
And does it in the open. And I do find it entertaining.
Maybe I just have the wrong idea of what a troll is.
There are trolls whose only purpose in life seems to be to stir controversy and to keep people upset.
However I don’t believe that is The Donald’s purpose in these actions.
He’s stirring up the activists and getting them to say stupid things in public. Things that he can use against them at a later time.
Remember that Macron has stated that there can be no renegotiation on Paris, so Trump is on safe ground.
If Macron can smell the possibility of some American $$ he will unstate that statement.
Good. Then he can try his best to get what he wants in the new negotiation. Right now, Macron is just paying for some scientists to move to France for five years (or something like that). He is relieving countries of their climate scientists and then supporting them. He may not be a financial genius.
Sheri @ur momisugly 9:06
Did he not also say France would kick in the USA’s share of the Green Fund that Barry O. had not already given?
President Trump is playing with their minds. He is the maestro of mind games. It’s doing the global warmists’ heads in. Just lovin’ it.
BTW, does anyone know if Bloomberg ever actually sent the $15 million he promised when Trump pulled us out of the Paris scam?
Wait and see. having putAmerica first, I will give him the lead. Generally, accords are a threat to self government, .though.. And a treaty in service of an illusory promise of “crystal clear” water is not sufficient reason for any nation to submit to a UN style treaty.
Or an accord that can morph into something else.
I have the odds that trump betrays on this issue at about 70%. Isn’t that basically what he’s saying admitting he will?
Under Hillary USA would have gone full Paris from day one. Whatever Trump does on this issue, Hillary would have been worse.
What has Trump done, not said, but done, that leads you to present such odds. You really need to work on cracking the Trump code. It can be done, but you’ll never do it just by analyzing what he says. And you’ll never do it listening to what the media is saying or not saying about him.
No, that is not what he is saying. You hear what you want Trump to say, not what he is saying.