Climate Change Disables US Navy's Newest Ship!

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Climate Change Weather Disables US Navy’s Newest Ship!

Brand-new US Navy warship trapped in Canada amid cold and ice

Fox News

A brand-new U.S. Navy warship has not moved from Montreal since Christmas Eve and will spend the winter stuck in Canada due to cold and ice.

The USS Little Rock – unveiled in a ceremony on Dec. 16 in Buffalo, New York and attended by nearly 9,000 people – has not moved far since due to adverse weather conditions that kept the warship trapped at bay in Canada, the Toronto Star reported.

The warship known as a Littoral Combat Ship (LCS) cost $440 million to build and stretches 387 feet in length and weighs 15 tons more than the Statue of Liberty. It is capable of traveling more than 46 miles per hour.

Such combat ships are described as agile and designed for rapid transitions between missions with minimal manning. They are used for surface warfare, counter piracy and drug operations, as well as other first response missions.

[…]

“The temperatures in Montreal and throughout the transit area have been colder than normal, and included near-record low temperatures, which created significant and historical conditions in the late December, early January time frame,” Lt.-Cmdr. Courtney Hillson told the newspaper.

“Keeping the ship in Montreal until waterways are clear ensures the safety of the ship and crew, and will have limited impact on the ship’s operational schedule.”

[…]

The crew stationed on the ship was provided with cold-weather clothing and will focus on mission training while the delay continues.

Fox News

 

USS Little Rock was “built by Marinette Marine on the shores of the Menominee River in Marinette, Wisconsin“.  She had just been commissioned in a ceremony in Buffalo and was making a “routine visit” to Montreal on her way to her future home port, Mayport, Florida…

The USS Little Rock is a Freedom-class littoral combat ship built by Marinette Marine on the shores of the Menominee River in Marinette, Wisconsin. Designed to operate off coastlines and in shallow water, littoral combat ships can carry out anti-submarine, anti-mine, anti-surface, and amphibious warfare missions. Little Rock and her sister ships are small, fast, and agile.

Unfortunately for the crew, the ship was not agile enough to escape the rapidly advancing winter ice. Commissioned in Buffalo, New York on December 16, the ship stopped in Montreal for a routine visit before heading for the East Coast via the St. Lawrence Seaway.

Once in Montreal, a “historic” cold snap caused sea ice to form faster than expected along the seaway, which authorities promptly closed for the season. According to Weather.com, the percentage of the Great Lakes covered in ice increased from three percent on Christmas Eve to 30 percent by January 6.

The St. Lawrence Seaway is the only way in and out of the Great Lakes to the open ocean, and it typically stays closed until March. The Navy has accepted that the 389-foot long, 3,400-ton Little Rock won’t be able to get under way to her home port of Mayport, Florida until the seaway reopens.

Popular Mechanics

Clearly USS Little Rock was designed to be an agile pirate-hunting warship in an ice-free world, because “the ship was not agile enough to escape the rapidly advancing winter ice.”  Good thing the Pentagon dropped climate change from its mission list… Losing your newest ship to “rapidly advancing winter ice” would have been seen as a defeat in the war against weather climate change.  Now it’s just an opportunity for the crew to focus on “mission training” until spring.

USS Little Rock Commissioning

USS Little Rock commissioning ceremony, Buffalo NY, Dec. 16, 2017. US Naval Institute

In a totally unrelated bit of trivia, my second cousin, the late RADM. Roderick O. Middleton served on two of Little Rock’s predecessors.  He was a gunnery officer on CL-92 USS Little Rock (1946-1948) and he was commanding officer of CLG-4 USS Little Rock (1964-1965).  Oddly enough, CL-92 and CLG-4 were the same ship.  RADM Middleton also had a tour of duty at NASA, where he was involved in the Apollo program (1965-1969).

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You do not have to go through the seaway to get to New York. It will be longer but wise-up.
Get real and get the work-ups under way.

John harmsworth

Nobody in their right mind would rather spend the winter in Buffalo than Montreal. Ooh La la!

mike

It is true, you do not have to go through the seaway to get to NY State. The ship was commissioned in Buffalo afterall. You do have to go through the seaway to get a ship to NYC. The Erie canal has not been a canal in a LONG time. Please take it from a life long NY resident whos lived in NYC and Syracuse each for several years among other places. In the Syracuse area, many parts of the old canal are roads now with the ditch having been filled in. I have seen it. That ,though is besides the point. The canal is too narrow for a ship of that size. You can take, or could when i was in college at SU years ago, take a ride on a old canal boat for some short sections that have been redug.

ResourceGuy

This is not exactly the Northwest Passage we’re talking about here. So is this low standards and incompetence of the Canadian Coast Guard?

nc

Information on the seaway freeze up
“Technically the St Lawrence Seaway (correctly called the Great Lakes-St Lawrence Seaway) spans over 2500 Miles (4400 Kms) from the “Lakehead” at Thunder Bay, Ontario thru the Great Lakes, and down to the mouth of the St Lawrence River at the Gulf of the St Lawrence on the Atlantic Ocean.
Surprisingly, a great portion of this giant waterway DOES FREEZE in the wintertime including portions from Quebec City to Montreal and west onto Kingston (at the mouth of Lake Ontario). As well many of the Great Lakes also have a fair bit of freezing to them, including Lake Erie which freezes over almost every year. As for boat / shipping traffic… things come to a standstill pretty much between December and April (dates vary every year depending on the weather, water levels, ice situation and ice flows)…
For more info on this great Canadian feature I refer you to Wikipedia (a great source for general overview info on ALL things Canadian) as well as to the official website for the Great Lakes-St Lawrence Seaway”
The warmers tend to ignore the seaway.

ResourceGuy

So Canadian commerce stops in the winter also (?).

Crispin in Waterloo but really in Ulaanbaatar

Resourceguy
Commerce doesn’t stop. That’s why we have dog sleds.

MattS

@ResourceGuy.
No, it just shifts from boats to trucks. Google “ice roads”.

Canada’s East coast has large sea ports in Halifax and St. John (and others) that are year round. These would be used once the seaway have frozen over, and cargo transferred to train.

nc

Reply to ResourceGuy January 23, 2018 at 12:03 pm
So American commerce stops also?
ResourceGuy I suggest before you keep digging your hole deeper read up on the seaway, Great Lakes shipping, American and Canadian seasonal aspects. If you don’t, a bigger shovel will be needed.

ResourceGuy

I can read that a little ice shuts the seaway down and not just for a few days or weeks either.

nc

Um its not a little ice, you need a bigger shovel.

Here is the CBC on the storycomment image
The USS Little Rock is shown moored in Montreal’s Old Port Sunday, Jan. 21, 2018. The newly commissioned Navy warship will be wintering in Montreal after its journey to Florida was interrupted by cold and ice. (Graham Hughes/Canadian Press)
Instead, the 118-metre Freedom-variant vessel has been moored in Montreal’s Old Port area since Christmas Eve due to unusually heavy ice conditions. Lt. Cmdr. Courtney Hillson says the Navy has now decided to leave the ship in place until the winter weather improves.
While there’s no departure date scheduled, she says the St. Lawrence Seaway is generally navigable by mid-March. Hillson says the crew is doing well and will focus on training and readiness while waiting to travel to warmer waters.
The icy waterways have caused similar issues elsewhere this winter. Six ships were halted near Kahnawake on New Years Eve for a time, and days later, a ferry shuttling about 20 passengers from Lévis to Quebec City got stuck in ice for more than four hours.

PiperPaul

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ResourceGuy

More Navy incompetence to go with the ship collisions in Japan.

M Courtney

Not sure I approve of anyone posting online the exact location of a NATO ally’s warship.
Being stuck is funny.
Being sunk is not.

Don’t worry MC. Canada’s fleet of nuclear subs is protecting them.

sy computing

I highly suspect any enemy of NATO capable of actually attacking the vessel where she is has capabilities (e.g., satellite) to see her where she is now. I also suspect an enemy of that caliber isn’t going to dare attack her. The response would likely be overwhelming, i.e., their behinds would become toasty in the very near future.
🙂

Ben of Houston

Courtney, I would generally agree. However, being in port, especially in an allied nation, especially our neighbor to the north’s, is a completely different situation. Anyone with the capability to attack the ship could see the public records of who is docked, and any group with the resources to seriously threaten them would have access to their own satellite sources.

tty

There are icebreakers, but icebreakers need room to maneuvre to be effective and the ice they break has to go somewhere, so icebreaking in canals and narrow passages isn’t really practicable.

tty

There are icebreakers, but icebreakers need room to maneuvre to be effective and the ice they break has to go somewhere, so icebreaking in canals and narrow passages isn’t really practicable.

To illustrate. Look at how narrow the water is around the trapped warship, and between the trapped ship and the far shore.
An icebreaker rides “up” on the ice, breaks “Down” unto and through the ice with its armored sloping and rounded bow and the weight of the hull. The broken ice chucks and packs moves out and under the hull to both sides and floats up. Or, depending on ice thickness, the ice breaker “pushes” the ice sideways from the bow as it moves forwards, and the ice again moves out and sideways from the bow down the ice breaker hull. The following ships then tuck in very close behind the ice breaker and follow literally right in its wake pushing the broken ice away with their hulls. Imagine what happens when sea ice chunks (1-3 feet thick) get trapped between the hulls of a trimaran or catamaran.
Works in open ice-covered water. In very narrow areas, the ice will get pushed into the banks and close up behind behind the icebreaker, or get pushed sideways into the trapped ship near the pier. Pushing sideways tends to break the pier beams as well with ice trapped between the icebreaker and pier.. Sonar domes? (fiberglass!) Big and bulging out from the hull, if present on these ships, would get destroyed.

Not so tty. Norwegian icebreakers are known to work is close quarters.comment image

ResourceGuy wrote, “This is not exactly the Northwest Passage we’re talking about here. So is this low standards and incompetence of the Canadian Coast Guard?”
No. It is not.
Winter Navigation on the Great Lakes: A Review of Environmental Studies
Abstract : In 1970, Congress authorized a three-part Great Lakes-St. Lawrence Seaway Navigation Season Extension Program. It authorized a winter navigation demonstration program, a detailed survey study of season extension feasibility and a study of insurance rates for shippers. This report provides a review of numerous environmental and engineering studies conducted as part of the demonstration and feasibility portions of the program, as well as many environmental studies conducted after the completion of the original program. Topics include sediment transport, shoreline erosion, shore structure damage, oil and hazardous substance spills, biological effects, ship-induced vibrations and ice control systems.
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a295586.pdf
ECONOMICS OF WINTER NAVIGATION IN THE GREAT LAKES AND ST. LAWRENCE SEAWAY
The recent achievement of year-round navigation on the Great Lakes makes pertinent a survey of shipowners’ costs and benefits resulting from that development. Success on the Lakes also provides new evidence of the probable benefits of parallel extensions of the season in the St. Lawrence Seaway. Following general discussions of the pros and cons of winter navigation, the paper describes the analytical techniques developed by the authors for predicting the economics of extending the operating season both on the Lakes and through the Seaway. The probable economic benefits accruing to each of several kinds of ships are shown. In the case of Great Lakes bulk carriers, the effect of changes in each of several key parameters (for example, bow shape, severity of winter, and ship ice class) is also shown. In addition to economics, the impact of ice navigation on energy utilization is estimated, and possible environmental dangers are considered. Overall, it is concluded that commercial users of Great Lakes and Seaway ships have strong incentives to encourage year-round navigation. Shipowners, while seeming to benefit less than their customers, also have good reason to move in the same direction.
https://trid.trb.org/view.aspx?id=29376
1. It isn’t cheap.
2. It isn’t easy.
3. It’s complicated.
Come back after you’ve done your homework. Perhaps you could write a report for our readers.

ResourceGuy

Up thread ResourceGuy made a snide and fully unsupported remark …
More Navy incompetence to go with the ship collisions in Japan.
Which Navy?
Then he provides a link to ABB which includes the this interesting information …
ABB modernization adds 20 years’ service life to Canadian icebreakers
2017-12-20 – The modernization of CCGS Pierre Radisson has been successfully completed in an upgrade program that will ultimately cover 10 ships in the Canadian Coast Guard fleet.
http://www.abb.com/cawp/seitp202/2cf9ebf54198a0dbc12581fc0041b5bc.aspx
Be serious or be gone.

richard verney

Probably the US Navy. It is their obligation (not the Canadian Authorities) to ensure that the vessel transits in good time, before the seaway is closed by ice.
This is well known in commercial shipping, and under most charters, an owner can refuse a charterer’s order to call there, if there is a risk that the ship will get trapped, and often additional insurance is required.
But hey, the US Navy is doing its bit to save the planet from global warming, since when in port, the vessel will use less fuel and emit less CO2.

richard verney

Here is a typical charterparty clause: https://highseas-shipping.com/seaway-and-great-lakes-trading-clause/

Without prejudice to any conditions in this Charter Party applicable to ice, the Charterers shall have the privilege of trading the Vessel to the Great Lakes in the open season but the Vessel shall not be required to enter the St. Lawrence Seaway without the prior consent of the Owners less than 20 days before the officially declared closing date. Even in the event of accident, stranding, collision, engine breakdown or any other cause whatsoever occurring without any personal fault of the Owners, their Managers or Agents, if the Vessel is unable to gain access to the sea because of ice conditions in the Lakes or the St. Lawrence Seaway and/or delays in port or ports and/or locks hindering departure prior to the closing date, hire shall continue during the time of the detention.
(b) The Charterers shall be responsible for any penalties imposed by the US/Canadian Authorities for leaving the Seaway after the official closing date unless delay is caused by the Owners.
(c) Extra Insurance
The Charterers shall pay any additional insurance premiums required on hull, machinery, freight and disbursements to operated outside Institute Warranty Limits….

richard verney

And this is from the great lakes St Lawrence Seaway System website:

The St. Lawrence Seaway’s navigation season generally extends from late March to late December. Consequently, the following reports will show vessel activity only within this time frame.

See: http://www.greatlakes-seaway.com/en/commercial/vessel_transit.html
It does appear that someone made a bit of a cock up.

barryjo

And I am sure the training is very rigorous. If only to keep the crew members minds off the fact they were supposed to be in sunny Florida about now.

I will happily admit that the frozen St. Lawrence is neither unprecedented nor a sign if imminent descent into the worst depths of our current ice age, if the warmunistas could just admit that every grass fire, tornado, hot summer evening and tropical cyclone are not evidence that humans are controlling the weather and should be scraped from the Earth.

ossqss

I recall reading something the last few days about the ship and that it had an aluminum alloy composition and could not tolerate ICE contact or something to that degree. Not sure if the article was accurate or not as I cannot locate it to share. One would think a war ship could tolerate a little hull bumping in my eyes, but what can you expect from an Obama era creation? I guess we can expect a freeze ray to be the next secret weapon against our Navy soon!

nc

This is a special purpose built as in its description, built light for speed and maneuverability. It also employs water jets for propulsion which could be damaged from ice ingestion.

Graeme#4

Designed I believe in Perth, Western Australia, or at least a derivative of their design?

Choey

Can it withstand a tugboat pushing on the hull?

nc

Yes as there are pictures of it being re-positioned by tugs. A big difference between a broad area on a tug designed for pushing and sharp ice.

FerdinandAkin

The Marinette Marine steel monohull has no problem with tug boats. The aluminum hull trimaran made by Austal USA is a different story.
https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2016/10/06/tug-collides-with-lcs-montgomery-cracks-the-hull/

DHR

The hull of the monohull type of LCS is steel, but very thin. The superstructure is aluminum. The other kind of LCS, the trimaran, is all aluminum. Neither is capable of operating with ice around.

FerdinandAkin

The USS Littlerock (LCS 9) has a steel monohull with an aluminum superstructure. Having the aluminum superstructure in contact with sea ice would be a bad thing. The US Navy began botching up the design of the LCS around the year 2000, years before the Obama Administration had the opportunity to foster this waste of displacement on our sailors.

tty

The fact is that most warships have zero icebreaking capability and carefully stay away from heavy ice. They are much too lightly built and have a completely unsuitable hull form. The Soviet navy actually managed to get three destroyers intact through the Northeast Passage from the Pacific to Murmansk with strong icebreaker support in the summer of 1942. It has been regarded as a remarkable feat of seamanship ever since.

drednicolson

Up until around 50 years ago, wooden ships were preferred for Antarctic exploration, because the tensile strength of the timber resists being crushed by surrounding ice, to a point.

NW sage

Any ship built for light weight, high speed [40 knots is HIGH speed] maneuvering is certainly NOT designed to push through much ice, even if the iced has been broken up. Ice is incredibly abrasive and sharp. Many many holes would be torn and ripped in the hull at and below the waterline before much progress was made..

Ian L. McQueen

I suspect that the ship was caught in the seaway, not the channel to Montreal. I write as a nearby resident of Saint John, New Brunswick, which had a very active winter port (the water never freezes) until icebreakers were positioned on St. Lawrence River to keep the channel clear to Montreal. We are not happy, but this is the way it has been for decades.

I love the new unit of weight: “weighs 15 tons more than the Statue of Liberty”. Is the weight of the Statue of Liberty well known? That sounds rather like one the BBC’s standard units.

Bengt Abelsson

204 metric tonnes for the statue- but the second article reports 3400 tonnes for the ship.
A sceptic mind smells “fake news”

sy computing

…provide more horsepower than:
You left out how many Dodge Challenger Demons?
🙂

rocketscientist

Impressive turbo-pumps until you realize that one SSME (Space Shuttle Main Engine) pumped out the equivalent of the entire ship’s compliment and the SSTS (Space Shuttle Transportation System) had 3 of those engines!

drednicolson

To be fair, it’s a naval vessel and wasn’t designed with the intention to reach escape velocity. ‘:)

RLu

It is as long as the height of a wind turbine, but has the power of 40.

Old44

Having its home port in Mayport, Florida is probably a good idea.

Leo Smith

The crew stationed on the ship was provided ?
Further proof that the only people who can speak correct English these days are Indians..

rocketscientist

Crew is singular. There is only one crew, but it is composed several members. Likewise “team” is singular.

rbabcock

Correct.. but there is no “I” in team.

John M

The Giants is dead.

Walter Sobchak

There is no “I” in team, but there is an “m” and an “e” and they spell me.

drednicolson

The Enemies Assisting Me

Sara

I can assure all of you that the crew of Little Rock will not only not suffer the slings and arrows of the outrageous fortune, being stuck in Montreal for the winter, but also will find themselves with plenty of things to do, including making acquaintances with local natives and learning to speak Quebecois, a language foreign to them, as well as learning to tolerate the strange food items presented to them by local natives of the area.
You should have some sympathy for them, at least until ice-out occurs. if only the Coasties had sent their icebreaker down that way a little sooner….. Such a burden as these sailors will have to bear! I weep for them… mostly because I never had a cold climate duty station until the Navy sent me to Great Lakes, and the barracks was NOT the best thing ever.

MarkW

Will the crew have to stay on the ship, or have they been given warmer quarters for the duration?

Gerald Machnee

The crew has to stay on ship.

MarkW

Brrr.

PiperPaul

Montreal also has lots of strip clubs, which I hear sailors are fond of.

John harmsworth

They will be like the Bounty crew after Tahiti!

brians356

And don’t leave out the sailors admiring the picturesque pomp of the natives’ dress and accoutrements. (There’s a mangled quote in that, but from what?)

NW sage

Let the hockey lessons begin!

Stephen Richards

clearly the USN did not obey Obummer’s orders to inject global warming climate change planning into their manuals of war

John harmsworth

They have gotten to the future tropics ahead of the pirates! Very clever.

DonK31

Montreal will be well protected from Somali Pirates this winter. Americans…not so much.

South River Independent

At least the ship is safe in port. Some Navy ships have not fared well in restricted waters recently.

Moderately Cross of East Anglia

Surely it is only a few days before the long promised rise in sea levels means the ship will be able to travel over what was yesterday land…?

Extreme Hiatus

What! The Canadians are holding that ship hostage. Is this part of the NAFTA negotiations or something even more sinister?
My sources tell me that Canada is also preparing to send in its tank and elite Special Gender Force to surround this trapped ship. They claim that they don’t need more troops for this because diversity is their strength.

Turdeau is planning on using it as a ‘refugee’ rapid transit ferry.

ResourceGuy

+10

brians356

“Repel boarders, starboard!”

dearieme

Given how foolish the USN has been to let everything run so late in the year, I find the comments here insufficiently derisive. How about demanding the sacking of whichever idiot said yes to the timetable?

The USS “Little Rock” is a good name for the ship and a warning to the crew to keep an eye on the weather when at sea.

John harmsworth

USS Little Stuck?
USS Little Help?

Nigel S

‘And I know I ain’t going nowhere.’
Stevie Wonder

Svend Ferdinandsen

We hear about the fight against climate change, and what could be better than a warship to take up that fight?
When a warship could not win the war, i wonder if we should surrender and let the climate do what it does, and just get used to the climate/weather.

tty

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All that’s needed now is for the hull to undergo a ductile/brittle transition and crack up owing to the global warming-induced cryogenic temperatures. Marvellous.

Oddly enough, the Gulf of St Lawrence DID freeze up at about the same day as usual this past winter.
And, to be honest about it, the Gulf of St Lawrence (the outlet of the St Lawrence River into the North Atlantic between Newfoundland and the Canadian mainland), has had lower sea ice levels than those originally measured back in 1979-1981. The long-term “official” 30 year average of 1981-2010 sea ice area are larger than the recent daily averages of 2016 and 2017.
But, the Gulf of St Lawrence melted out far, far later in both 2016 and 2017 than in ANY prior year.

........................Avg.....Avg.....Avg
........................Mkm^2...Mkm^2...Mkm^2
month	day	DOY	81-10	14-15	16-17	1979	1980	2012	2013	2014	2015	2016	2017	2018
January	1	1	0.021	0.023	0.017	14152	21376	19802	20203	35221	10351	11963	18316	19626
	2	2	0.023	0.026	0.018	15373	18199	18917	21295	39573	11461	12706	19102	21970
	3	3	0.025	0.030	0.019	15172	19173	15088	22379	48996	11640	14091	19328	24712
	4	4	0.026	0.035	0.022	16530	16937	15124	20159	55442	14658	14926	19592	30746
	5	5	0.029	0.041	0.019	18531	20248	16229	19580	62581	19394	15109	22371
	6	6	0.030	0.045	0.019	22599	23996	15847	18486	68576	20800	15621	21616
	7	7	0.032	0.045	0.018	24991	25039	14523	16813	69265	20158	14851	21390
	8	8	0.035	0.044	0.019	27592	26997	13514	18150	65794	22004	14174	24698
	9	9	0.036	0.044	0.016	31765	30356	12552	18514	62243	24972	14314	18653
	10	10	0.038	0.042	0.016	33758	32098	12197	19161	60339	24317	15598	16326
	11	11	0.040	0.043	0.022	35270	31831	12545	20203	60432	25777	22162	21892
	12	12	0.043	0.045	0.023	46291	34185	12803	20332	60020	30627	21605	25339
	22	22	0.068	0.040	0.018	106451	39187	23826	22989	34278	45922	20682	15114
Feb	2	33	0.100	0.094	0.021	45099	70713	46143	42421	108653	78813	26874	15365
	12	43	0.129	0.147	0.048	92823	121645	70631	73085	154308	139222	39204	57731
	22	53	0.138	0.154	0.045	174272	105141	75024	61056	168133	140548	36941	52426
Mar     2	61	0.137	0.168	0.045	176936	156313	66133	62487	174132	161031	46426	44367
	12	71	0.134	0.173	0.062	127713	132519	57236	40038	175493	170666	54116	68892
	22	81	0.109	0.145	0.051	94806	94969	18788	37516	155965	134508	41917	59353
Apr	2	92	0.075	0.100	0.034	49961	46736	15516	25840	120231	79765	28528	38613
	12	102	0.050	0.072	0.027	31767	33422	23752	17514	88484	55733	23416	30704
	22	112	0.034	0.033	0.018	22277	20648	20204	15037	27085	39695	16897	18714
May	2	122	0.024	0.023	0.014	18766	14783	14049	12537	23534	22449	13163	15612
	12	132	0.017	0.012	0.016	14197	12242	13840	12719	15198	9792	14001	18910
	22	142	0.016	0.012	0.014	19477	11716	11088	8777	12511	12282	13945	14829
June	2	153	0.010	0.008	0.010	7861	5391	5740	6314	10113	6290	8069	11165
	12	163	0.001	0.001	0.003	5984	1835	876	788	951	882	2621	2919
	22	173	0.001	0.001	0.002	2420	2329	989	1528	1085	1634	2192	1437
July	2	183	0.001	0.001	0.002	3307	1531	911	604	581	694	2351	2274
	12	193	0.000	0.000	0.002	0	0	0	0	0	0	1299	2121
	22	203	0.000	0.000	0.002	0	0	0	0	0	0	1359	1903
Aug	2	214	0.000	0.000	0.001	0	0	0	0	0	0	1010	823
	12	224	0.000	0.000	0.000	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
	22	234	0.000	0.000	0.000	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Sept	2	245	0.000	0.000	0.000	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
	12	255	0.000	0.000	0.000	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
	22	265	0.000	0.000	0.000	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Oct	2	275	0.000	0.000	0.000	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
	12	285	0.000	0.000	0.000	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
	22	295	0.000	0.000	0.000	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Oct     31	304	0.000	0.000	0.000	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Nov     1	305	0.001	0.001	0.001	0	0	813	984	757	753	809	669
Nov	2	306	0.002	0.002	0.002	444	703	1636	1747	1810	1489	1740	1620
	12	316	0.004	0.004	0.004	2366	2364	4215	3774	4353	4218	4789	3659
	22	326	0.004	0.003	0.004	2407	2346	3172	4118	3759	3230	4264	4420
Dec	2	336	0.008	0.007	0.009	6211	7295	8426	5781	7238	6709	11337	7340
	12	346	0.014	0.017	0.011	10809	11192	13858	10791	20129	13205	10498	11212
	22	356	0.016	0.013	0.012	11631	22347	13896	17202	9047	16556	11648	12559
	23	357	0.016	0.011	0.012	8300	21865	14000	16792	7176	14928	10594	13856
	24	358	0.016	0.011	0.014	10350	24174	19763	16591	8334	14226	11561	15630
	25	359	0.016	0.013	0.014	11919	26645	20968	17886	14209	12788	13149	15151
	26	360	0.016	0.015	0.014	14456	26175	20705	19812	17839	12938	12211	15643
	27	361	0.016	0.016	0.017	16990	27013	16674	21998	19437	12379	13946	20026
	28	362	0.016	0.017	0.017	20570	30659	18116	24951	19851	13420	13522	20639
	29	363	0.016	0.015	0.016	23630	31592	12361	26680	19271	11717	12700	19694
	30	364	0.018	0.012	0.019	23635	30016	14997	30242	13776	10760	17041	20496
	31	365	0.018	0.011	0.019	25688	32408	17615	31431	10364	11019	18165	20709

(On the other side of the world, BOTH the Sea Of Okhotsk AND the Bering Sea set new satellite era records by NOT melting out completely in either summer 2016 and summer 2017. For every prior year, both sea ice regions melted out completely over the summer. This year, for the first time ever, we could see not only multiple-year (thicker) sea ice in the Sea of Okhotsk and Bering Sea, but three-year thick sea ice. )
Hudson Bay, kilometers north of the trapped ship, Hudson Bay is also seeing increased sea ice areas in December 2017-Janaury 2018 compared to previous years. Hudson Bay sea ice minimums in late summer 2016 and late summer 2017 more closely approximated previous years’ daily values though.

tty

That is almost certainly junk data. The sea of Okhotsk and Bering Sea are always ice-free in summer. Automatically generated satellite data always has problems with imperfect land masks and tend to count small islands as “ice” in summer. The same thing often happens with the Baltic which is even (sort of) bathable in summer.

from tty

That is almost certainly junk data. The sea of Okhotsk and Bering Sea are always ice-free in summer. Automatically generated satellite data always has problems with imperfect land masks and tend to count small islands as “ice” in summer. The same thing often happens with the Baltic which is even (sort of) bathable in summer.

In response, this from the NSIDC about their data.

Sea_Ice_Index_Regional_Daily_Data_G02135_vX.x.xlsx
This Excel workbook contains average daily sea ice extent and area, using 5-day trailing averages, in square kilometers, by region of the Arctic Ocean. For these sheets, the Arctic is broken up into 14 regions with boundaries defined by the ASINA team using Meier et al. (2007): Baffin Bay, Barents Sea, Beaufort Sea, Bering Sea, Canadian Archipelago, Central Arctic Ocean, Chukchi Sea, East Siberian Sea, Greenland Sea, Hudson Bay, Kara Sea, Laptev Sea, Sea of Okhotsk, and Gulf of St. Lawrence. See Figure 1 for a map of these regions.
The workbook contains 29 sheets. The first 28 sheets contain the data and the final sheet, labeled “Documentation,” contains brief documentation and URLs to more comprehensive documentation. Each of the 14 regions has two sheets in the workbook: one with the 5-day trailing average area and one with the 5-day trailing average extent. Column A is the month and Column B is the day of the month

Go argue with the NSIDC. It’s their spreadsheets. Their data. Their averages.
True, the NSIDC do NOT record the small ice areas of the Baltic due to its island reflections from the land around that little area. However, just like every year since 1979, the Bering Sea, Sea of Okhotsk, Hudson Bay and gulf of St Lawrence are monitored and recorded each day. In fact, because the NSIDC does “mask out” parts of the Gulf of St Lawrence each summer because it has historically melted out each summer, it too may have have sea ice remnants still frozen over the 2016 and 2017 summer melt seasons that were blanked over and deleted. The other three regional sea ice area were NOT blanked out, WERE surveyed, and WERE recorded with sea ice remaining through the summer. I did not expect that news, but will report it as discovered. (At least, until the NSIDC removes it.)
And, for the past two years of summer 2016 and 2017, all four regional sea ice records down below latitude 60 north show ominous signs of increasing sea ice area in their summer minimum levels, their 2014-2015 summer average areas, their 2016-2017 summer sea ice averages, or their individual Dec 2017-Jan 2018 records. My words stand on the NSIDC data as written. Total Arctic sea ice area ARE lower the past years from their record high 1981-2010 averages, but those averages are only half of the 70 year sea ice oscillation.

Bruce Cobb

I sure hope the SS Little Rock is sufficiently equipped to fight climate change.

tty

They will get an excellent opportunity to check the onboard climate/heating systems. And other systems. Electronics and hydraulics sometimes misbehave when it gets really cold.

eddie willers

“Littoral Combat Ship”
That name will get someone in trouble.

John harmsworth

Yet Frigid!

brians356

Literally.

Michael Jankowski

Of course, this was the sort of unexpected weather we can expect due to climate change.

Are some guys telling me the New York harbor is closed ? Please get real.
You have to go through the seaway to get to New York.
Pleaaaaaaaaaaassssssssssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!

No surprise, its just someone believing all the Global Warming hype…
Navy “You Cant Handle the TRUTH!!”

J Mac

In response to various comments above.
1) American ships are named after American cities. This one is named for Little Rock, Arkansas.
2) The USS Little Rock is a light weight, fast ship, designed for interdiction missions that require speed and high maneuverability. Light, fast ships are not ‘icebreakers’. Ice breakers are not light, fast ships.
3) Low temperature driven (ductile/brittle transition) fast fracture failures in ship steels were investigated and resolved in WWII. A great wealth of knowledge about steel alloying, steel plate manufacturing, steel welding, stress concentration effects in steel joints, and fracture mechanics was learned and applied. The USS Little Rock was fabricated to modern design, materials, and process specifications appropriate for naval ships. It is not susceptible to ductile/brittle fracture hazards.
4) The superstructure of the USS Little Rock is aluminum alloy. Aluminum alloys have lower density than steels, allowing weight reduction (and attendant ‘moment arm’ effects) above the hull. The reduced superstructure weight also reduces ballast weight, greatly enhancing speed, maneuverability, and range.
5) Port calls in state/provincial capitals is a standard political ‘good will’ mission for US navy ships, where possible. Montreal is the capital of Quebec, Canada.
6) Weather happens. Normal weather resulted in a fast freeze up while the Little Rock was making such a ‘port call’ on her maiden transit from fabrication port in Marinette WI to her home port in Mayport FL . Rather than risk hull damage from thick ice pack in the St. Lawrence Seaway, the USS Little Rock will remain in Montreal Port until the St. Lawrence Seaway is deemed navigable again.

AndyG55

“Weather happens”
Yes we all know it does…
Doesn’t mean we can’t have some fun at the expense of the alamists, who don’t know what weather once things creep a fraction a degree over normal.

Extreme Hiatus

Quebec City is the capital of Quebec. Montreal is just the strip club capital.

PiperPaul

LOL, correct on both counts!

J Mac

I stand corrected. Shouldn’t rely on memory for such geographic detail.
As for Montreal’s status as the strip club capital, I’ll defer to your greater knowledge, Gentlemen….

dearieme

None of which tells us why the USN gambled on her being able to reach the Atlantic in late December or early January. Though someone gave a hint above that the fault must obviously lie with foreigners, specifically Canadians. That reminded me of the fruitcake “explanations” offered for the collisions of the USN warships with commercial traffic last year.

PiperPaul

I read somewhere that they had problems with the steering wheel thingie before the ice-up but I think that’s a ruse and it’s really a super sekrit super duper spy ship eavesdropping in on the NAFTA negotiations going on now in Montreal.

J Mac

dearime,
I simply researched and provided facts, to clarify misunderstandings by others. Why don’t you research the reasons for the ships schedule and causes for delay, from release fromMarinette WI to Montreal Quebec. Provide a timeline, incidents, and reasons for delay. Identify those points where the US Navy ‘gambled’ and your evidence of such. Perhaps it will dispel your ‘fruitcake’ dyspepsia?

Québec city is the capital of the province of Québec. Montréal is the métropole.

South River Independent

Obviously should have been Christened USS Mayport in Mayport.

You can go up and visit Canada any time you like, even in January, due to global warming and the loss of all ice and snow in the region–Michael Mann.

Nigel S

Speaking of the ‘events of 1812’ I hope this isn’t the start of a revised ‘Plan Red’.

J Mac

See above:
J Mac January 23, 2018 at 5:47 pm

NW sage

I think this reverse global warming trick [the early freeze] was a maneuver planned by those treacherous Canadians (perhaps with the aid of those dratted British Red Coats) to capture the ship and hold it hostage. They are now in a much better position to negotiate a better trade deal under the NAFTA umbrella. The move is especially brilliant since we (the US) don’t even seem to realize they pulled it off. The only downside is that they now need to feed our sailors until we figure out what they have done! After that they can demand ransoms.

Dave in the UP

I think the most telling comment in the press release was that the crew was issued cold weather clothing. The LCS was designed to operate in temperate and tropical waters, they do not have a heating system to deal with a Canadian winter. Especially tied up to a dock running on shore power. The other LCS Class of ships, the Independence Class, are built in Mobile, Alabama where ice isn’t a problem….yet.

Amber

First they can’t read radar and now weather forecasts ? WTF Just blast your way out or get an ice breaker .
What exactly is the point of having a brand new Battleship that can go 46 Mph and zero in ice . Patrol
a third of the world or less ?
Something ain’t right here . We are not getting the full story . Sounds like a warranty issue .

sy computing

“Sounds like a warranty issue”
By golly Amber your logic is sound even if your facts aren’t!
“Fix it OEM, you morons!”
ROFL!

Warren Blair

That’s what you get when you don’t buy Australian (just kidding).
Austal ‘Littoral Combat Ship’ does the same speed; 46mph (40 knots) but it looks better . . . http://www.austal.com/full-vessel-listing (they started business building one modest cray-boat on a dirt floor in Perth).

MSO

“…weighs 15 tons more than the Statue of Liberty.”
I wonder how many people know how much the Statue of Liberty weighs?

michael hart

In the event of a sudden outbreak of the right kind of war, I’m sure they could ask to borrow one of the Russian nuclear-powered ice breakers.

The Gulf of St. Lawrence, well downstream of Montreal, looks pretty well iced over to me. I’d stay in Montreal….
http://ice-glaces.ec.gc.ca/prods/WIS28SD/20180123180000_WIS28SD_0009848517.gif

Thanks for the info. Welcome to Montreal enjoy your stay