Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Having failed to break the US political deadlock, greens are now looking to the US military to intervene in domestic politics, to save us all from the carbon demon.
The Only Force That Can Beat Climate Change Is the U.S. Army
America’s military is the only institution that can break the partisan deadlock on the worst threat the nation faces.
BY ANATOL LIEVEN | JANUARY 9, 2018, 12:45 PM
The precise extent of human-induced climate change is unclear, but the basic science is unequivocal, as is the danger it poses to the United States. This threat comes from the direct impact of climate change on agricultural production and sea levels but equally importantly from the huge waves of migration that climate change is likely to cause, on a scale that even the world’s richest states and societies will be unable either to prevent or accommodate.
…
This is because the most promising avenue to convince conservative American voters and to generate genuinely serious action in the United States against climate change would be to firmly establish the link between global warming and critical issues of national security. The threat should be obvious, but even before Donald Trump took office, the security elites in the United States and other major countries had not yet really integrated it into their thinking. Thus the vast majority of reporting and analysis of security issues in the Persian Gulf relates to classical security threats: the future of the Iran nuclear deal, the geopolitical and religious rivalry between Saudi Arabia and Iran, the Saudi-led boycott of Qatar, and so on.
…
But the case for a security role is a vital one. Only security establishments and national militaries have the capacity to mobilize resources on the scale required. Only they can make the link between the threat of climate change and patriotic duty and convince ordinary voters that the sacrifices required are necessary for the future safety of their countries.
Integrating security into this debate would also bring with it a better understanding of how to address the risks involved. Climate change deniers such as the Heartland Institute are apt to call for absolute scientific certainty about climate change — a guarantee that any action will come far too late. On the other hand, some activists falsely assert absolute certainty about detailed future impacts — a certainty that simply cannot be justified scientifically.
…
One of the impediments until now to approaching this issue rationally has been that the issue of climate change has become miserably entwined with the cultural-political divide now splitting American society. In recent years, all too many conservative Americans have begun to deny climate change not on the basis of evidence or debate but because their cultural allegiance rules it out. “We aren’t the kind of people who believe in climate change.”
This is where the role of the U.S. military is so crucial. It is the one American institution that retains the confidence and respect of the great majority of Americans from both political parties. It is also an institution whose culture depends on a sober and realistic appreciation of threats and which can talk to conservative patriotic Americans with conviction and in a style they can understand. No “citizen of the world” will ever persuade a Republican voter to vote against his or her immediate interests. A U.S. soldier talking about threats to America would have no problem doing so.
…
The internal divisions in U.S. society and politics concerning climate change are obviously serious barriers to the security establishment’s playing a bigger role — as witnessed by the Trump administration’s NSS.
However, the sheer scale of the threat to the security of the country means that the U.S. military has an institutional and patriotic duty to instruct Americans concerning this threat, just as it has influenced them in the past on other threats falling within the military’s sphere of competence. Incidentally, this also involves education on the likely security consequences of mass migration, a subject on which liberals are as irrational in their way as conservatives are concerning climate change.
…
The second relates to the role of patriotism and nationalism in America. At present, climate change has been turned — quite unnecessarily — into an issue that divides Americans rather than unites themAt present, climate change has been turned — quite unnecessarily — into an issue that divides Americans rather than unites them. Nationalism is the only force in the United States and elsewhere that can motivate the masses to make sacrifices in the struggle against climate change not on behalf of abstract ideas of planetary responsibility but on behalf of a commitment to the future of their countries. This involvement of patriotism is vital, both because the economic sacrifices required will indeed be very considerable and because they will have to be made by present generations on behalf of future ones.
The military can play a key part in mobilizing these feelings and turning this struggle into one that unites Americans and reduces the divisions and hatred that are beginning to pose a threat not only to the working of the U.S. political system but even the long-term survival of U.S. democracy. Without this engagement, successful action against climate change will be impossible, and the consequences for the United States and the world will be disastrous.
Read more: http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/01/09/the-only-force-that-can-beat-climate-change-is-the-u-s-army/
I suggest one of the main reasons the US military enjoys the respect and support of the US people is because of the long upheld US military tradition of serving the Constitution rather than any particular political cause, a tradition of NOT intervening unnecessarily in US domestic politics.
The military in Hawaii can’t even figure out what button to push for a ballistic missile warning test . Asking them to set the worlds thermostat seems ambitious . The green uniforms are a good first step but don’t they have some bigger real problems to deal with ? Lighting off NK nukes for example .
Imagine what happens when pot is legal . Cool fireworks man .
Might have been on purpose ….now it’s on peoples minds …
Things aren’t always as simple as they seem .
And it was the state , not the military …
Was the Demorat Hawaiian civilian government, per new news reports. Nithing to do with our Navy.
Rob, it is noted that you say NOTHING against this totalitarian fascism that is the topic.
@Rob
I’m sure “Demorat” was an intentional misspelling, but it obviously flew over your head. The other misspelling I suppose was not. However, if you think one misspelling in a comments section on a blog is a good indicator of intelligence, then afraid it’s you who is the idiot…you and the Demorat Hawaiian civilian government of course.
Again Rob, it is noted that you say NOTHING against this totalitarian fascism that is the topic.
So Rob has now shown that he SUPPORTS this sort of totalitarian fascism.
Keep yapping Rob.
Your sympathies have been highlighted.
And if you think telling me to STFU will have even the slightest effect you can think again.
I don’t cow-tow to bullying, certainly NOT from low-life DEMORATS.
Poor Rob, You went for it hook line and sinker.
EXPOSED yourself for all to see.
So Funny. 🙂
Still waiting for you to comment AGAINST the totalitarian fascism that the topic is about..
Waiting
Waiting
Still waiting for you to comment AGAINST the totalitarian fascism that the topic is about..
Waiting
Waiting
EVERYONE can see you SQUIRMING, little worm. !!
Still waiting for you to comment AGAINST the totalitarian fascism that the topic is about..
WHY THE CONTINUED EVASION, Rob. 🙂
Everyone can see it.
They are all laughing at you. 🙂 🙂
Keep digging……
….. Deeper and deeper into your own leftist totalitarian sewer. 🙂
I’ll leave you to squirm for a while, little demorat. 🙂
SQUIRMING and struggling like a stunned mullet..
Poor Rob.
HILARIOUS
So SICK and EVIL that you have EXPOSED yourself as CONDONING the use of military to force your fascist control AGENDA.
Mussolini would be proud of the way the Demorats have adopted his meme.
Come on Rob, stop squirming.
Say that you DON’T CONDONE the use of military force to get your totalitarian agenda in place.
Very easy to get out of the total MESS you are currently in. 🙂
Linking to your own cowardly evasions.. .. pretty mindless of you.
Do you or do you not CONDONE the use of military yo get your totalitarian agenda in place?
Simple answer and you are off the hook. No more need for you to behave like a stunned mullet.
It seems that Rob FULLY SUPPORTS the use of military to ENFORCE the totalitarian AGW agenda..
But is too cowardly to actually say so. !!!
These are the sort of people we are up against. !!
The Demorats have bent the FASCIST mentality to their totalitarian anti-human control agenda.
And nil-educated like Rob, can’t even see it….. but SUPPORT it whole-heartedly
HILARIOUS as Rob continues to refuse to answer.
It is obvious he is TOO COWARDLY to admit than he FULLY SUPPORTS the use of the military to enforce the Totalitarian AGW agenda.
Watching his manic evasions is quote hilarious.
I hope everyone is enjoying the entertainment 🙂
@Rob
Liberals like to pretend that the term fascist can only be applied to right wing politics. However, in general fascism describes a political system that allows economic freedoms but not social freedoms…i.e. policing thoughts and beliefs. This article in this post describes exactly that, so describing it as fascist is correct, although eco-fascist or neo-liberal fascist might be more accurate.
Now, beyond semantics, do you agree or not with the proposal? Or do you only care about defending the inept Hawaiian DemoRAT government and pointing out spelling errors?
Tell us all Rob…
WHY do you SUPPORT the use of the military to enforce the Totalitarian AGW agenda. ?????
“http://www.slate.com/articles/life/fascism/2017/01/define_fascism_why_nailing_down_a_comprehensive_theory_of_fascism_has_been.html”
“We readily accept that socialism or liberalism can mean many different things.
The only thing that distinguishes fascism is its enormous negative moral charge.“
So yes, the AGW AGENDA holds very much with the one distinguishing feature of Fascism.
Why do you support the use of military to enforce this most Anti-human, Anti-science, Anti-Life FASCIST AGENDA, Rob.
Why are you STILL avoiding answering WHY you support the use of the military to enforce the AGW totalitarian agenda. ??
“The Fascist conception of the AGENDA is all-embracing; outside of it no human or spiritual values can exist, much less have value. Thus understood, Fascism is totalitarian, and the Fascist AGENDA — a synthesis and a unit inclusive of all values — interprets, develops, and potentiates the whole life of a people.”
Straight from the leftist Wiki. With one word changed, “State” replaced with “AGENDA”.
Defines the AGW AGENDA to a tee. Wouldn’t you agree!
Why do you support the use of the Military?
“Could you please spell Democrat properly?”
Didn’t he?
Rob:
“Please stop using words you have no comprehension of.”
“Please stop using words of which you have no comprehension.”
There…fixed it for you. Please try to keep up next time?
🙂
“Using words you don’t know the meaning of?”
Oh dear…another one??
*sigh*
Left-wing Fascism….. from left-wing Wiki…
“Horowitz argues that a tenet of “left-wing fascism” in the United States is a rejection of American ideals and the democratic system and an assertion of socialism as an idealized abstraction.”
“In the late 20th and early 21st centuries, the term “left fascism” has been used to describe unusual hybrid political alliances. ……. opening up the opportunity for cult-like, irrational, anti-democratic positions that combine characteristics of the left with those of fascism”
The AGW AGENDA.. Writ large.
Left-wing totalitarian FASCISM. !!
And YOU not only CONDONE it.. you SUPPORT the use of the military to ENFORCE IT. !!.
Rob Bradley–you’ve amply demonstrated yourself to be a Nasty Democrat unwilling or unable to answer Andy’s question.
Your next post will either be Strike Three or you’ll redeem yourself.
The choice is yours.
Rob takes a walk, with his **** held firmly between his legs.
Runs away from answering why he CONDONES / SUPPORTS the use of the military to ENFORCE the AGW AGENDA.
@Rob
No. Totalitarianism is high government control both socially and economically, like North Korea.
It’s apparent that your only weapon is semantics. You sound like an English lit major that’s in way over his head. Come back when you have an actual point to make.
“Thank you for interjecting sy computing, but your “correction” is not necessary.”
Are you sure? You DO want to be consistent with your grammatical criticisms don’t you? Otherwise you might show yourself a bit of an hypocrite…or ignorant…we wouldn’t want that!
(Note: I do NOT accept Bitcoin for my tutelage…sorry)
🙂
“there is no such thing as a ” Totalitarian AGW agenda.””
There very much is a “Totalitarian AGW AGENDA”
Heck you even support the use of the military to ENFORCE it.
Your cognitive dissonance is hilarious.
The whole AGW has , by its very won admission been aimed at breaking down capitalist societies and replacing them with a TOTALITARIAN ONE-WORLD GOVERNMENT
There is so much direct evidence on this that only the wilfully blind-folded could deny it.
And Rob would like to use MILITARY FORCE to make this happen.
“…because he is ignorant of what thee word means.”
Oh dear…Rob…really? For you, I’ll even take a check…
Rob.. still squirming like a little worm.
Why do you support the use of MILITARY to ENFORCE the AGW Agenda if its not totalitarian, and by very definition (a few posts above) a form of Left-wing Fascism?
ANSWER the question, yellow-back…
WHY do you support the use of military to enforce the AGW Agenda.?
How many beers?
““…because he is ignorant of what thee word means.”
At least as many as thou hast…
🙂
Who says I’m trying to help him?
It’s you who needs help! See my plea above!
🙂
Rob needs some help to get over his COWARDICE in answering a simple question
left-wing fascism is defined to a tee up above.
Simple question little yellow-back troll….
Why do you support the use of the military to enforce the AGW agenda?
Do you have the guts to answer??
My guess is you will just keep flapping around like a stunned mullet !!!
Oh my…look Rob, grammar lessons are one charge…logic is quite another…I’m sorry that’s just the way it has to be. First one is free.
Lesson One: The Law of Non-Contradiction
“However, Andy might need a lot of your help.”
“sy computing, AndyG55 is a big boy…..he doesn’t need your help”
We mustn’t contradict ourselves Rob. When we’re able to derive a contradiction from our belief system then those we’re attempting to convince of our position will quite rightly reject our arguments out-of-hand. After all, if we can derive 2 + 2 = both 4 AND 5 from the same belief system, what in the world are we doing!
Left-wing Fascism….. from left-wing Wiki…
“Horowitz argues that a tenet of “left-wing fascism” in the United States is a rejection of American ideals and the democratic system and an assertion of socialism as an idealized abstraction.”
“In the late 20th and early 21st centuries, the term “left fascism” has been used to describe unusual hybrid political alliances. ……. opening up the opportunity for cult-like, irrational, anti-democratic positions that combine characteristics of the left with those of fascism”
The AGW Agenda, and its supporters, DEFINED to a “t”
Add the totalitarianism of using the military, you have totalitarian fascism
Its new, but unless the world wakes up, it may be coming to a street corner near you.
Thank goodness the USA has Trump and not Hillary as President, or it would already be there. !!
Pathetic is refusing to answer a simple question
WHY do you support the use of military to enforce the AGW Agenda.?
Only a totalitarian lefy-wing fascist would do that.
Poor Rob.
His whole existence is one of EMPTY COWARDICE.
RUNNING and HIDING, even from HIMSELF.
A left wing SJW for sure. TRIGGERED. !!
Poor Rob.. Cannot read .. cannot comprehend
Left-wing Fascism….. from left-wing Wiki…
“Horowitz argues that a tenet of “left-wing fascism” in the United States is a rejection of American ideals and the democratic system and an assertion of socialism as an idealized abstraction.”
“In the late 20th and early 21st centuries, the term “left fascism” has been used to describe unusual hybrid political alliances. ……. opening up the opportunity for cult-like, irrational, anti-democratic positions that combine characteristics of the left with those of fascism”
You are a cowardly left wing fascist, Rob…. . And you KNOW it.
Everybody knows the meaning of the word COWARD, Rob
I have define left-wing fascism, which palpably OOZES from you
Stop your mindless attention-seeking and your cowardly squirming and…
….. ANSWER THE QUESTION.
Rob doesn’t know how to follow links from Wiki
Cowardice, enhanced by IGNORANCE.
STILL the manic SQUIRMING and AVOIDANCE of answering a simple question.
WHY ARE YOU SO SCARED OF ANSWERING , Rob ??
You are getting manic, like a 5 year old chucking a tantrum.
Making a total FOOL of yourself.
STILL the manic SQUIRMING and AVOIDANCE of answering a simple question.
WHY ARE YOU SO SCARED OF ANSWERING , Rob ??
WHY do you support the use of military to enforce the AGW Agenda, Rob?
Those are the actions of a totalitarian fascist……. and you are very much far loonie left-wing.
I am neither right-wing, or a fascist.
I just want a mindless COWARD to answer a simple question.
Rob, the top people at the UN IPCC have made it very plain their goal is to remake capitalist democracies into one world automatons. Read more and comment less.
Rob, really. You need to quit while you are behind.
You mistake a DESCRIPTION for name-calling
ANSWER THE QUESTION ! Or the description sticks to you like glue.
You have NOT put any argument, all you have done is childlike EVASION of simple questions.
You have not even stated your position, because you don’t have the GUTS to do so.
You are EMPTY !!!
Fascism was defined correctly already. State control over the fruits of production but private control over the means of production. Price controls, for example, are fascist instruments. Fascism has nothing to do with capitalism or classic american liberalism both of which are rooted in individualism (I.e. right wing) rather than collectivism (I.e. left wing). The environmental movement is left wing by nature, as is socialism, communism, and labour unions. This isn’t difficult stuff. Right wing was made into a boogeyman term decades ago. The term liberal was more recently bastardized into a pejorative. I am surprised no one has mentioned Mussolini, Gentile, and even FDR here. The first two were pretty much writing all about fascism and even hard at work putting it into practice in Italy for a couple of decades. They were pretty good buddies. So were FDR and Mussolini. They had lots in common before that whole ww2 and the holocaust thing happened and fascism became so 1930’s. Obviously the greens will try to use any of the instruments of collectivist (I.e. left wing) philosophy and government to achieve their goal of healing the planet. Since greens view the fruits of capitalism as an assault on the planet, fascism is logically a great model for them to try to implement as a means to their ends of ending the alleged assault on the planet.
WR
There are No economic freedoms without social freedoms .
Since the introduction of the (not) federal reserve there has been NO economic freedom.. So beware, digital money like bitcoin, is slavery. A cashless society is slavery. Direct taxation ( form 1040 ) IS slavery.
If you want a free country start with abolishing the federal reserve who are funding the Big Brother state.
Rob, you are the one assuming that pointing out that Hawaii is a Demorat plantation is a political statement.
fascism doesn’t mean what most socialists claim it means.
It’s a form of socialism, it doesn’t mean “anyone I don’t like”.
“Rud, it was a human error. ”
Was it? Or was it someone deliberately wanting to raise a ruckus to get people freaked out to force Trump to concede to anything that North Korea demands? Could be either. I personally favor the latter as more likely in my personal opinion.
Rob Bradley January 13, 2018 at 8:47 pm
Andy doesn’t know what “fascist” means.
.
LOL!!!
In fact, I think that would be you, Bradley.
To find out, try looking in a mirror.
Just because pot is legal in a state will not mean it is legal in the military, even for active duty service members posted in that state or who are citizens of that state serving in the reserve components such as the National Guard . Service members are not only subject to the laws of the civil authority but also to military law under the UCMJ AT ALL TIMES, even when not on active duty.
Hawaii Emergency Management Agency – a state level FEMA, with tsunami volcano earthquake etc alarm ‘buttons’ that are tested time to time under competent leadership.
I am sensing desperation in the green camp. It is beginning to smell like a shithole.
Haiti smells worse, as the Clintons know.
Rob is apparently a 5 year old.
Certainly a far-left fascist.
What to use the military to enforce his cult religion.
I thought Haiti smelled like money to the Clintons.
I’ve seen a number of Haitians interviewed over the last few days and it seems that one thing they have in common is they don’t like the Clintons.
They think that instead of helping Haiti after the earthquake they had there, the Clintons went into Haiti to make money off the trajedy.
That’s a real intelligent comment there, Rob.
“your anus smells the same as Hatii”
Ha ha. Rob, the Haiti Minister of Tourism would like to thank you for defending their fine country!
Since I noticed on a comment string above that you’re a bit of a stickler for grammar and spelling, maybe you can answer this question: what is the plural of anus? I would guess that many parts of Haiti smell like more than one.
P.S. You spelled Haiti wrong.
Rob, that isn’t even funny, or clever. So disappointing.
Rob! Did you just say that Haiti is a sh/thole? The MSM will crucify you.
And it is not spelled Hatii. Those who live in glass houses and all that.
I doubt Rob is a person. Only a bot still in the beta development stage could put up such stupid comments.
I see that Rob has given up trying to play an productive role in any discussion.
All he’s capable of doing is insult those who don’t worship as he does.
chaamjamal January 13, 2018 at 5:37 pm
“I am sensing desperation in the green camp. It is beginning to smell like a sh/hole.”
Notice how the progressive globalists in Congress, such as Mitch McConnell, can’t tell the difference between a free English-speaking republic, and their own rear ends.
The author of this fantasy piece must be a university professor . When Hitler didn’t get his way he used brown shirts so all the author is seeking is a color upgrade . Dream on .
“When Hitler didn’t get his way he used brown shirts”
Nowadays the radical Left has Antifa.
Hitler was a “National-Socialist” and in the first Time of the war II a friend of Josip Stalin of the UDSSR. His political agenda before founding the “NSDAP” ( National-Sozialistische Partei Deutschlands” was nearer to the former “SPD”, he was a member, than to the former “Centrum” aka todays “CDU”. That you must have in mind, when you speak about Hitler. The word “ventennio fascista” is a italian word and describes the time of Mussolini. Hitler describes himself never as fascist.
Question climate authority
And the libs started out with ‘question authority.’ See how low they have sunk.
At gunpoint?
One of the major arguments of the loony activists has shifted towards climate change being the cause of international conflict and refugees. Sheesh! How do you argue against that? There are reams of data to suggest otherwise, but they are mostly subjective and the Greens are determined to believe what they want to believe. I guess the argument develops that stopping climate change will negate the reasons for a military, so in good Green fashion, turn the military to other uses like making the population want what the Greens want. Idjuts.
I needed to fix the first sentence, which reads:
“The precise extent of human-induced climate change is unclear, but the basic science is unequivocal, as is the danger it poses to the United States.”
To be scientifically accurate, it should read:
The precise extent of human-induced climate change is unclear, but the basic science is unequivocal, as are the amazing benefits we are poised to reap from the modest warming and CO2 fertilization, leading to global peace and stability.
There,,,fixed. Now the rest of the article becomes irrelevant. (sorry if someone has already made this very necessary correction.)
Harry S How do you argue against the argument that man-made climate change is responsible for global conflicts? Ask what has changed, and how does it differ from the last 5,000 years.
It all reminds me of the George Carlin joke where he reports that “…archaeologists have discovered an ancient civilization in which the people had no skills whatsoever! Nothing was found anywhere near the site!”
In other words, the claim is groundess; completely devoid of evidence. So ask them to produce the evidence.
I know, let’s set up a military junta. Let’s relinquish civilian control of the military. Sure, that was a great experiment proved successful since ancient Roman times. But new situations demand that we give up tried and true advances in civil human governance. I say we need to return to the dark ages after the fall of Rome and before the Enlightenment. Those great times when the military called the shots; giggle, giggle – pun intended. But seriously, who better to call the shots than those that can shoot. And, by all means, let’s get serious about this: no more namby pamby trials by twelve jurors of one’s peers. Screw that. I say military tribunals for those climate miscreants. Let’s have judge, jury, and executioner all efficiently rolled into one to try and hang (bullets are too costly) those scofflaws.
Can’t you just see how necessary this is? Well, can’t you? Can’t you-can’t you-can’t you? Waaaaaaa! Can’t you? It’s about military junta time.
“equally importantly from the huge waves of migration that climate change is likely to cause” Is this guy a racist or is he being manipulative? I’m sure that if his liberal friends called him out on it he would say that he doesn’t actually believe that mass migration is a bad thing he only said that to get the attention of the right wing. It does raise the question, what else did he say that he doesn’t actually believe.
Yes. Climate change is no where near as scary as the people who believe in it!
It would appear that the ‘greenies’ think that the members of the military are interchangeable with the public school teachers. Hate to disappoint them.
After the US Military have “Instructed” Civilians on the need to Address so-called ‘Climate Change’, what do the do with those stragglers who think that it is all a hoax? Shoot them?
If they try, we shall shoot back.
I’ll be at your shoulder, Rud. 2nd Amendment forever.
The Left has killed around 270 million of their own citizens in peacetime. They did this not because they didn’t understand socialism, but because this was socialism working exactly as designed – to kill all dissenters who are standing in the way of the delusional ‘utopia’ (any system where the Left has total control).
In the US people like Van Jones and even Oprah have talked about the need to simply kill anyone with a view the Left doesn’t approve of.
Look at the historical record, the Left always harms the citizens and society it is in, sooner (North Korea, East Germany, USSR, Cuba, Venezuela) or later (Sweden, South Africa, Zimbabwe, Baa’thist Iraq, and now much of Europe).
Socialism mass murdering people (‘democide’) is socialism working as intended by the hateful leaders of the Left. It is self-delusion to think otherwise.
Exactly.
Ok, well not exactly. I wouldn’t go so far as to call the left’s leaders hateful.
Wanting to jail or kill anyone who disagrees with you or who gets between you and power, sounds pretty hateful to me.
It’s not hate Mark, it’s just “what needs to be done”. (Even scarier)
A hypothetical: There is a small town with a dam above it. A man is carrying explosives to blow the dam and wipe out the town. You have a rifle. Do you shoot him? Of course, there is no moral quandary because you are “saving the town”. But you don’t hate the man involved, he just had to stopped to save the town.
Imagine what your conscience would allow you to do if you are “saving the planet”? They don’t necessarily hate you, you’re just something in the way of the “Grand Plan” and needs removal for the good of all.
So it would seem that the threat is not the weather per se, but rather being inundated by immigration from sh/thole countries?
Hasn’t Trump already moved on this?
Yes, Trump is taking measures to fix the mass migration problem. He’s telling them they can’t come in. They are going to have to work out their own problems in their own countries.
The only thing Lieven left out of his rant was the “Sieg Heil” at the end.
And this is why we SHOULD NOT be treating ANYONE that supports this EVIL Anti-human, Anti-life, Anti-CO2 with anything except contempt and derision.
Missed a major word..
we SHOULD NOT be treating ANYONE that supports this EVIL Anti-human, Anti-life, Anti-CO2 AGENDA with anything except contempt and derision.
Where are Nick, Toneb, griff etc commenting on this.
Come on, show that you DON’T agree with this sort of enforcement.
Crickets chirping !!!!
http://www.broomwithaview.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/FieldCricket.png
Has the world gone mad!!
America like Canada has vast forests and farmlands as well as significant water systems that use much of the carbon they create and like Canada may be carbon neutral.
Canadians like lambs to the slaughter are paying for carbon credits and unconstitutional taxes and fees for something that does not exist….crooked thieves and liars within government and mps who have shares in companies who will benefit directly through government intervention.
Canada has provinces that have huge supplies of hydro-power. So the residents of those provinces will not be as greatly affected by carbon taxes and/or cap-and-trade. Cheap electricity.
Only parts of the U.S. have enough hydro-power. So much more difficult to sell carbon taxes and/or cap-and-trade in the U.S. Expensive electricity.
Then why does Toronto have the highest electricity rates of any North American city? Why does the province of Ontario have some of the highest priced electricity in North America?
Your Hydro point only applies to Quebec, Manitoba and British Columbia, and only the former has what one could call ‘cheap electricity.’ Even then carbon taxes raise the cost of EVERYTHING that has any fossil fuel inputs – and in Canada that includes a lot of food that is transported very long distances in the winter.
In the meantime, what the US may lack in hydro is more than made up for with natural gas and the whole issue could be settled with more nuclear power.
Average Canadian pays about 45% of their earnings to taxes these days.
Barbara – it will not be cheap for long. Ontario is using it to subsidize solar and wind so the cost has skyrocketed.
Manitoba is over borrowing to build dams which the prev gov “hoped” they could export. Now the users will be paying a lot more for Hydro to pay off the loans.
Here in the northeast, after much legal wrangling, route-changing, and some line-burying, Hydro Quebec will be building a supply line called “northern Pass down through parts of NH, VT, and in Mass. This, of course, is being touted as “clean energy”. A NG pipeline over from the Marcellus shale could have supplied a lot of that electricity, but I suppose that was too much to ask.
Socialist/fascist juntas – Brilliant!
Because it’s working soooooo well in Venezuela!
More bovine fecal matter.
Given wee are now heading for a Solar Minimum a cooler planet is more likely than a warm one.
Maybe the military would soon need to be in the cities – to hand out winter clothing and blankets.
Three things, first there is no reason to think there would be consensus in the military. Second, there is no reason to think civilians will listen to the military about civilian policy. Third, the military already has a full time job.
I enlisted the navy in 1970 to get a technical education in nuclear power and see (sea) the world. Later the navy sent me back to college to finish my engineering degree and I became an officer.
As a junior officer, it was impressed upon me the valve of questioning everything. I am a trained skeptic.
Many year later I attended a presentation about ghg causing warming. The presenter was an attorney and claimed to have given the same presentation to Clinton and Gore. Very convincing, I was convinced in one hour.
Well for about one day until I had a chance to look at the material provided in the presentation. I came to a different conclusion. While I am not a climate expert, I am an expert on certain environmental issues. For example, not exposing children to I-132 when making electricity with fission.
There is a least a billion people who do not have access to clean drinking water and electricity. We have the technology. If I am going to shape political will that would be my advocacy.
Sad to say but Jane Fonda is more influential than I am. Maybe if I had a 100 mph fastball and a good slider, my priorities might be considered. Even sadder is that actors, athletes, and journalists who disagree with the consensus better not exercise ‘free speech’.
Finally, when I was in the navy; there was just not the time.
There idiots always fall back on “the basic science is unequivocal”. They know nothing about science.
This isn’t what the military is for and, as many others have noted, would go directly against the Constitution and every American tradition.
So I’m surprised this Watermelon didn’t suggest that the military should bomb coal-fired power plants around the world to ‘fight climate change.’ But only with solar-powered planes and missiles flown from wind-powered aircraft carriers of course, with all vegan crews eating only locally sourced produce.
So says a Socialist. Now, let me think, what happened the last time those two concepts were combined?
Meanwhile, in the real world, it’s snowing in Australia, in the middle of summer…
Where? Link please.
Tassie often gets snow on Mt Wellington in summer.
Most interesting snow I’ve seen was November 22, 1996 (year might be wrong) in the hills just east of Canberra. Wish I’d had a camera 🙂
Yeah tassie, but some at mt hotham in vic too.
“weird weather” of course, not actual cokd weather….
http://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/natural-wonders/thick-blanket-of-hail-covers-tasmanias-east-coast/news-story/b7ea0dbfa9152d20bdbc8b3ce4df07fe
hmmm..
“A SMALL town on Tasmania’s east coast has been blanketed in hail after an unseasonable downpour on Saturday afternoon.
It’s not the only place with snow falling in otherwise shuttered ski resorts.”
Someone seems confused about hail and snow.
Mt Hotham looks like snow though
Summer snow at Mt Hotham is, of course , not unheard of.
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/dreaming-of-a-white-christmas-then-head-for-the-hills-20101219-191xi.html
Closest I can find is http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-13/hail-and-ice-fall-in-tasmania-in-january/9327084
Nuke the whole planet; get a nuclear winter; problem solved.