Guest essay by John Ridgway
I’ll tell you what you don’t get to see that often nowadays: Death by Chocolate.
There was a time, not so long ago, when no dinner party was complete without a postprandial chuckle over the prospects of slumping dead into one’s pudding bowl. Now, sadly, Death by Chocolate has gone the way of Mississippi Mud Pie and Baked Alaska, never again to menace party-goers with fanciful threats that belie the delicious truth. It all seemed so jocular then.
Of course, I’m not laughing now, sat here with my type 2 diabetes. Nevertheless, I think it is fair to say that Death by Chocolate was fake news – a triumph of fear over facts. To prove the point, all I needed to do was to apply the scientific method, mastered as a consequence of studying physics at both undergraduate and postgraduate level. A simple body count, a few questions about who had eaten what, and a bit of basic statistics would have been enough to establish the science behind the Death by Chocolate hypothesis. At least, that would have been the case if my dinner party guests had been obliging enough to succumb to their fate before they got to the brandy and cigars. After that point, disproving the hypothesis would get decidedly messy. Besides which, what sort of host would I have been, counting corpses to prove a scientific point.
So what should I have done? Apply the precautionary principle and insist we all stick to the trifle? Perhaps. But if I had done so, would that have been a scientific decision or would it have been a political one, driven by the imperative of etiquette over scientific curiosity?
Turning to the Death by Carbon Dioxide hypothesis, I think we can see that we are confronted by a similar dilemma. To pass the test of falsifiability, we will have to wait until the predictions of Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming (CAGW) have been confirmed by Nature. Any conclusions that one may reach prior to that point will be tainted by levels of uncertainty that far exceed the limits required for scientific confirmation1.
So, if we are to use science as a foundation for timely political decisions, then we must necessarily accept that the science will be incomplete. That is not seen as a problem to those who advocate exercising the precautionary principle; after all, acting under significant levels of uncertainty to avoid catastrophic consequences is what the precautionary principle was invented for. Unfortunately, whilst the principle may represent pragmatism in the face of uncertainty, it can also provide the basis for institutionalised neurosis, in which the seriousness of an imagined scenario can be used as the excuse to replace scientifically deduced probabilities with a fear-driven respect for the merely plausible. The challenge is this: how do we come to terms with the realities of post-normal science without succumbing to a modern version of Pascal’s Wager, complete with all of its religious connotations.
Science and Truth in Practice
You know, I think that sometimes post-normal science gets a bad press. Undoubtedly, when it is sold as a postmodern antidote to the philosophical realism that underpins ‘normal’ scientific methodology, one can understand why heckles are raised. Whilst most of us can accept that truth is, to a certain extent, a social construct, any attempt to downplay science’s ability to counter such subjectivity will not play well with those of us who have first-hand experience of science at its objective best. But I don’t think that is what Silvio Funtowicz and Jerome Ravetz had in mind when they first presented their own brand of the philosophy of science.2
I believe their primary intent was simply to propose a pragmatic alternative that is more suited for the support of policy-making under uncertainty. For example, if one looks under the post-normal bonnet, one finds concepts such as NUSAP3, which provides a framework for the categorisation and assessment of evidential uncertainty that would not look out of place in practical arenas such as safety-critical systems engineering. This shouldn’t come as a surprise, since post-normal science’s avowed intent is to provide a framework for problem-solving within complex, high-stake scenarios characterised by significant levels of uncertainty. As is the case in many other fields, the safety-critical systems safety engineer has to evaluate complexity and uncertainty, and does not enjoy the luxury of waiting for the body count in order to make his or her safety case.
Having said all of this, I’m not sure that the pragmatics behind post-normal science can justify the ‘extended peer community’ as a means of ensuring effective quality assurance.4
And I’m certain that taking the further step of democratization, whereby consensus usurps the twin towers of falsifiability and repeatability, will leave most of WUWT’s readership baying at the moon. By taking such steps one is left with a view of science that is closer to the courtroom than the laboratory, and that detracts from the integrity of ‘normal’ science – we don’t want to know whether CO2 is found guilty of plotting humanity’s downfall, we want to know if it actually is guilty. The post-normal approach may be necessitated by complexity, uncertainty, contested values, high stakes and expedience, but it doesn’t alter the fact that it is a highly compromised approach to the pursuit of science.
Not So Post and Not So Modern
It may seem to some that such aspects of post-normal science represent postmodernism at its worst, but there is nothing modern about the reasoning that lies at the heart of scientific post-normality. Back in 1669 the thoughts of renowned philosopher and mathematician, Blaise Pascal, were posthumously published in a paper rejoicing in the somewhat unassuming title, ‘Thoughts’. Within it, Pascal presented an argument for belief in God that now goes by the name of Pascal’s Wager. He proposed that, when it comes to deciding whether God exists or not, Man is a finite being faced with a world of infinite uncertainty. In fact, since rationality can never be used to decide the issue, one might as well toss a coin. If God exists and you choose not to believe, you face infinite loss in the form of eternal damnation. On the other hand, belief in God, if he didn’t exist, can only result in finite loss (e.g. Sunday mornings in church when you could be down the pub). So, with a fifty-fifty chance, what sort of fool plumps for the option carrying the potentially infinite downside?
By basing his decision upon a combination of probability and utility, Pascal had invented the decision theory upon which post-normal science is based. However, by downplaying the role played by rationality, he had also demonstrated how a combination of fear and pragmatism can be used to make the irrational seem sensible. Basically, Pascal was arguing that one should believe because one has a vested interest in believing. Faced with complexity, uncertainty, contested values, high stakes and expedience, Pascal used the supposed impotence of rationality to justify choosing the option that suited him best.
So, if you’re wondering why your eyelid twitches whenever post-normal science is mentioned, it is probably because it shares much of the logic that lies behind religious advocacy. That doesn’t make it wrong; in the right hands it still offers a rational approach to the adoption of science in the support of policy-making – that is a good thing. But in the wrong hands it can lead to the rational adoption of politics and ideology in the corruption of science. And that’s a bad thing.
The IPCC: A Masterclass in Post-normal Dystopia
Mike Hulme, professor of climate and culture in the Department of Geography at King’s College London, and former professor of climate change in the School of Environmental Sciences at the University of East Anglia, has described climate change as a, “classic example of…post normal science”. He explains that the absence of controlled experimentation requires that the principles of falsifiability and reproducibility be replaced by the development of consensus amongst deliberating experts. In the case of climate science, this consensus arises following consideration of field studies and mathematical models. In stating this, Mike Hulme is not expressing an opinion, nor is he making an accusation. It is a simple statement of fact. The IPCC makes no secret of the importance it attaches to consensus; forming a consensus is what it was set up to do. In a Climate Change article, dated 2011, Garry Yohe and Michael Oppenheimer wrote:
“Achieving consensus is, to be clear, one of the major objectives of IPCC activities. Paragraph 10 of the amended Procedures Guiding IPCC Work, for example, states that ‘In taking decisions, and approving, adopting and accepting reports, the Panel, its Working Groups and any Task Forces shall use all best endeavors to reach consensus’.”
Relying upon consensus is hardly an ideal situation, but clearly it is one considered acceptable for the purposes of drawing up policies that commit the world’s governments to colossal investments in green energy. And if that were all there were to it, I would just shrug my shoulders and accept that this is what happens when scientists and policy makers are confronted with complexity, uncertainty, contested values, high stakes and expedience.
However, one should keep in mind that the IPCC was also set up with the expressed intention of investigating climate change, where ‘climate change’ is defined as human-caused climate change. The consensus that is sought, therefore, centres upon that prejudgement. And remember that “all best endeavours” are required to ensure such a consensus. So is it any wonder that the IPCC’s executive summaries for policy makers mention nothing of the uncertainties reported by its working groups and task forces? Is it any wonder that IPCC members deemed to hold contrarian views are routinely side-lined or dismissed? Is it any wonder that the IPCC so judiciously flouts its own rules for peer review, or the admissibility of cited references? I could go on but the IPCC’s misdemeanours have already been well-documented elsewhere.5 Suffice it to say, when it comes to reaching a consensus, the IPCC’s conception of “all best endeavours” seems quite inventive.
I suspect that the lack of full scientific rigour condoned by the post-normal scenario conveniently suits the IPCC in pursuit of its preconceived political agendas. Once consensus has been proposed as a legitimate arbiter of scientific enquiry, the scene is set for the corruption of science in the guise of science. And fears that climate science is being used in the service of higher ideals are hardly assuaged when hearing prominent former IPCC member, Mike Hulme, say, “the idea of climate change is so plastic, it can be deployed across many of our human projects and can serve many of our psychological, ethical, and spiritual needs.”
Spiritual needs indeed! So it seems we are back to Pascal and his wager; could it be that complexity, uncertainty, contested values, high stakes and expedience are being used by the IPCC as a pretext for believing what it has a vested interest in believing?
So Where are the Anti-Scientists?
When the man on the Clapham omnibus6 thinks about scientists he will, more than likely, conjure up an image of an absent-minded boffin, bedecked in a white coat, surrounded by the paraphernalia of the laboratory. Such an individual is to be trusted, since he or she deals only in data and logic in the noble pursuit of truth. There are no preconceived values or hidden agendas, only Nature being forced to reveal her secrets under the scrutiny of the scientific method. This is indeed what normal science is about. Objectivity reigns supreme because only falsifiable statements are allowed, and reproducibility of results is de rigueur. Such a scientist is not in the business of idle speculation. So, who should we believe? Scientists and their facts, or the right-wing politicians and climate change deniers with their fake news? What qualifications do these deniers have anyway to impugn the scientists’ expert authority?
Except, that isn’t what the real debate is about. In most cases, science is a commercially funded enterprise, undertaken by individuals who are paid to get results that matter to their patrons. Even in academia, the success of a scientist’s career is largely determined by the revenue generated for his or her parent institution, resulting from the prestige of published papers and citations. Increasingly, policy-makers look towards such scientists for the evidence that can be used to support their favoured policy. And when they do so, the scientists concerned are often dealing with problems beset with complexity, uncertainty, contested values, high stakes and expedience. This is a heady cocktail, forcing them to resort to conclusions supported by decision theory rather than by hypotheses that pass the tests of falsifiability and reproducibility. Now the borderline between science and advocacy becomes blurred, and there is quite enough partisan speculation abroad for any right-minded sceptic to question.
Under such circumstances, questioning the CAGW hypothesis cannot be labelled as anti-scientific; it is simply justified scepticism taken to its logical conclusion. However, the media have successfully demonised the sceptics’ position largely by selling the IPCC’s work as an example of science in its finest tradition. The IPCC is responsible for generating this impression since it partakes in a particular brand of politically corrupted post-normal science, in which uncertainties are often censored and replaced with statements of certitude that no self-respecting post-normal scientist would endorse. Reasonable climate sceptics are not anti-normal science or even anti-post-normal science, but they are against the mis-selling of the latter as the former. The real anti-scientists are the IPCC policy makers who oversee the gruelling, last-minute, all-night, summary-writing sessions during which any hint of scientific post-normality is removed prior to the summaries being issued for the consumption of the unwitting public.
In summary, the IPCC scientists conduct post-normal science but the IPCC portrays their work as the ‘normal’ science that the lay public holds in such high regard. This is disingenuous. CAGW sceptics are not anti-science, but they are against such duplicity. I’ll grant you that the Death by Carbon Dioxide hypothesis has more science behind it than Death by Chocolate, but it is still only post-normal science, and post-normal science is the sort of science that is settled when the policy-makers say so. Some would say, therefore, that the IPCC’s politicking is the true face of anti-science.
Notes:
1 By ‘confirmation’, I really mean a convincing failure to falsify.
2 See, for example, Funtowicz, S. and Ravetz, J., 1993. “Science for the post-normal age“, Futures, 31(7): 735-755.
3 NUSAP is a notational system used in the management and communication of uncertainty when dealing with science used to support policy. The acronym stands for: Numeral, Unit, Spread, Assessment, Pedigree. For more information, see NUSAP net.
4 The internet may be a rich source of erudite critique but it is also infested with fake news and ill-informed diatribe, so much so that it is no longer seen by some as an open forum for healthy debate. In a recent article published by Wired a number of experts were asked what they thought was needed to ‘fix’ the internet. Sir Tim Berners-Lee advised that, “It’s about re-establishing facts, which means re-establishing data and science as the basis for democracy”. This doesn’t sound like a ringing endorsement of the current state of affairs.
5 See, for example, the Inter Academy Council (IAC) audit of 2010. Read it at your leisure, but I draw your attention to the following two findings:
“Review Editors do not fully use their authority to ensure that review comments receive appropriate consideration by Lead Authors and that controversial issues are reflected adequately in the report”.
“…guidance was not always followed, as exemplified by the many statements in the Working Group II Summary for Policymakers that are assigned high confidence but are based on little evidence”.
Remember, these are not the opinions of a bunch of internet nut-jobs payed by Big Oil to sow doubt, these are the findings of an august and respected body mandated to provide independent governance of the IPCC.
6 Sorry, but I’ve just realised that this expression may require explaining to some of my readership. Back in 1871 Lord Bowen, then a junior court counsel, coined this expression to represent public opinion. It has since been adopted by the British judiciary system to measure the standard of care a defendant must live up to in order to avoid being found negligent. If the man on the Clapham omnibus wouldn’t be satisfied, then you’re going down! Note that only the men on the omnibus were to be metaphorically consulted. Presumably, the women were in their metaphorical kitchens, keeping their opinions to themselves. Ah, different times!
Excellent article.
The general public must at all times be reminded that the IPCC is not in any form an “independent” science grouping.
It was set up and is funded by the UN to, as is the World Meteorological Organisation.
The best way to break any illusion that the public may have about the WMO or the IPCC being independent science bodies is to only refer to them as the “UN operated and controlled IPCC/WMO”.
They exist purely to furnish the UN with propganda dressed up as “science” in order for the UN to promote it’s new world order style global economic policies of global wealth transfer.
Check out the Geneva Environment Network ( est. 1999 ) member organizations and coordinated by UNEP. Also known as the GEN.
Geneva Environment Network, Geneva, Switzerland, Est. 1999
Select Network: > Network members > Governmental & Non-governmental members > Click on any member for more information on the member organization.
http://www.genevaenvironmentnetwork.org
GEN coordinated by UNEP.
Pascal’s wager is crap. How do you know the probability of infinite loss or infinite reward is not zero? Zero evidence for the existence of infinity yields zero probability. Otherwise, you should worship me because there is non-zero probability that I am omnipotent and I will punish you with infinite loss if you don’t worship me
I really like an atheistic perspective on CAGW in the modern era. It is as socially politically refreshing as it is purely scientific. Are you saying you’re a believer in God Dr.?
I am saying I am agnostic of infinity and infinite powers. Infinity is a useful mathematical concept. There is absolutely no evidence it exists physically. Hence you cannot play a game of chance and apply the theory of probability when the reward or loss is imaginary. What is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Of course you can believe anything you want without need of proof.
I’m replying to myself, which I haven’t done before so I don’t know how this is going to work? Yes, it would seem the dead horse of the IPCC has been beaten to shreds and it still won’t run the race, as they would say. Since we actually read criticisms of the continually failing predictions of these “esteemed” scientists; we might actually care about what is possible and what is probable. Even though I firmly believe in God, (to fairly answer the question I put to you) I have disagreed most religiously regarding any catastrophic predictions with any member of my faith who is willing to have a discussion, (and there aren’t many). I’m going to have to hold off on judgement regarding the human races role in the slight warming of the planet. But isn’t it more important now to mention how C02 and warming actually helps our race rather then hurts it agriculturally.
You need to read E. T. Jaynes on Max Ent as the proper subjective naive prior. Being honest and saying 0.5 I don’t know leaves one wriggle room not available to the BS-er. Max Ent is Maximum Entropy.
Interesting take on Pascal’s wager. But if you read the Pensées it becomes evident that the “wager” argument was more in the nature of marginalia; a statement made in exasperation. Pascal’s real philosophy was much more deeply reflective. Take this statement for example: “Atheists ought to say what is perfectly evident; now it is not perfectly evident that the soul is material.” Pascal understood the difference between material observation and the transcendant. The AGW movement has confused this distinction. Thus it takes on an air of divine mission and abandons proper restraint and skepticism appropriate to material observation.
Nietzsche said religion destroyed the mind of Pascal. But who cares about Nietzsche? He’s just a self-proclaimed Anti-Christ. The use of Pascal’s wager by AGW fanatics is not coincidental. As one skeptical commentator in Germany noted, Global Warming is the new religion of the post-Christian Europe.
There’s nothing Nietzsche couldn’t teach ya ’bout the raisin’ of the wrist…
It may be something of a shock here, but Pascal’s Wager is about as much of an impediment to serious religion as it is for serious science.
John, post normal science will always serve politcal agenda! Name one planetary disaster that could have been prevented using the precautionary principle. Indeed name one such disaster period. Thermodynamic considerations have led me to the axiom that humans can’t cause a planetary disaster. Even with small, admittedly horrible, local events like the Hiroshima bombing, radiation was back to normal background within a year and the city was rebuilt. Chernobyl exclusion zone is now Europe’s Serengeti wildlife park!
CAGW was made a big issue by a Marxist fellow named Maurice Strong who shouldn’t need an introduction to anyone writing on this subject. A philosopher like yourself I’m sure is familiar with Bertrand Russell’s orbiting teapot. CAGW is the tailor made example of what Russell was remonstrating about.
A soothing, more probable prediction with rapid greening, mild warming, peak population (we’re over 80% there), abundant harvests, abundant cheap energy (thank you DJ Trump), an new era of world prosperity which brings peace.
Let’s not try so hard to convince the totalitarians. Think of how you speak to a child. Let’s steadfastly move forward and let the goodness rain down on them.
Quite a well written article!
From Race, Sex, Evolution, Intelligence, Biology and Economic Studies the real science deniers are on the political left.
The Real Science Deniers
https://co2islife.wordpress.com/2017/11/07/the-real-science-deniers/
The real sleight of hand is the insertion as a starting premise, or a “given”, the notion that the “stakes are high”. That is actually not a reasonable premise but is a baseless conjecture. Climate change is climate doing what it always does, and slight warming from current neoglacial conditions is beneficial, as is CO2 fertilization of plants globally.
No – the stakes are not high for humanity. For the majority it is all “much ado about nothing”. But they clearly are for those invested in the CAGW scam.
Ah! Pascal’s Wager and climate science compared.
The difference between them is proof of results. In Pascal’s wager, we can only prove the existence of God by anecdotes and “miracles” which medical science can repeatedly show were spontaneous response produced by individual will power. Some people want to believe in miracles. Some don’t. Others just don’t care and dismiss the whole thing as nonsense. There is no accountability, or a way to test or repeat results by intentional experiments.
Climate science, if it wishes to be counted as true science, has to allow for repeated tests and proven results from those tests. Otherwise, it’s just science being corrupted by politics and perceived power.
As a reminder, the predictions in the 1970s were that we would soon be awash in glaciers, in the midst of a glacial maximum by now, and that we were all doomed. So far, what we’ve mostly had is seasonal changes from summer to fall to winter to spring, always the same cycle but not always with the same weather events.
Now the prediction, 40-some years later is that we are all heading toward an overheated Doomsday, one which will have us all awash in ocean water (?) on the edges of a land gone to desert.
As far as I’m concerned, none of the predictions have any more provability than the existence or non-existence of God or a bunch of gods and goddesses, because the predictions were consistently wrong in the past and seem to be consistently wrong going forward.
It’s the lack of accountability on the part of some of the more raucous and obnoxious people, as well as the greedy grab for cash (and attention) that bothers me more than anything else.
Therefore, unless climate science people are more willing to accept that their predictions do not hold up under close examination, I will continue to point at them and giggle and tell them that if they are so very worried about CO2, they could help a lot by wearing rebreathing equipment. I also think they need to be told that they are boring one-note instruments and it would do all of us a lot of good if they’d take a break from predictions. Wait about 20 years, then we’ll review their predictions for accuracy.
I simply can’t take them seriously in their chosen “profession” any more.
Science is a near-space, near-time philosophy. Beyond that, there is conflation of logical domains, myth, fairy tales, and people who want or need to believe.
The precautionary principle run amok is illustrated by the woman I knew who would not leave the house out of fear (in a very safe town), or those who spend twice as much on groceries at Whole Foods because they worry about their health too much. It was claimed in the 1840s that riding in a train faster than a horse could run would surely be fatal. It is too easy to imagine catastrophe, but failing to advance also has a cost/risk that is never counted by the scaredycats.
Excellent article. I would add, that the real dishonest aspect but of the IPCC and its supporters is the invention of imaginary tipping points, …. these being neither scientific or post modern sciency. They are pure propaganda points, with the intent to deceive. Climate change, man made or not, moves at a pace so slow that it can’t and will never pose some insurmountable risk to adaptable, mobile populations such as humans.
Since there is nothing scientific, or even post modern regarding these imaginary tipping points, it is safe to conclude that the skeptics are NOT anti-science in any aspect, but rather anti propaganda.
“To pass the test of falsifiability, we will have to wait until the predictions of Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming (CAGW) have been confirmed by Nature.”
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Sorry Mr. Ridgway, “Catastrophic” is not part of the science of AGW hence your test is bogus. In fact “catastrophic” is a strawman, built by those trying to knock down the underlying science of AGW.
‘Catastrophic’ is exactly what has been used to sell the policies pushed by AGW proponents, and used to HIDE the facts of the underlying science.
Thank you Joel, for noting that “catastropic” is strictly policy, and not part of the science.
“‘Catastrophic’ is exactly what has been used to sell the policies pushed by AGW proponents,”
Yes, nearly all the AGW promoters are actually promoting CAGW. When they claim AGW will cause the Earth’s weather to be worse than it normally would be, they are really trying to make a case for CAGW.
AGW would be a benign warming.
CAGW is a warming with catastrophic consequences. Most of those promoting human-caused Global Warming/Climate Change are predicting catastrophic consequences as a result, not AGW. AGW isn’t scary enough.
“AGW isn’t scary enough.”
Bingo! That hits the proverbial nail on its head. Without hyperbole, hysterics, and verbal jumping up and down and pointing at a non-existent bogeyman, the CAGWers and Warmians and Whatevers have nothing. They are required by the Rules of Engagement to lie, fabricate results, exaggerate everything and do whatever is necessary to frighten you in to believing them.
Unfortunately, it is no longer working that way.
The scary numbers, falsifying results, plain old lying about normal events are all the same tactics used in politics as propaganda. E.g.,: Vote for ME, and I’ll give you everything you want (bald-faced lie to get votes). Vote for OTHER and you’ll starve to death and have no toys (also a bald-faced lie to get votes).
The best way to counter these clankers is to keep producing facts and NOT allowing them to get away with fudging results or deleting uncomfortable facts.
My understanding of the precautionary principal means that we should take action on global warming ie Carbon Tax, renewables , Paris agreement because if we do nothing we are at huge risk of devasting disaster. Let’s take out some insurance it’s worth the cost. However, I would argue that a true precautionary principal would be to do nothing. Anecdotally despite claims to the contrary there is nothing to fear about what’s happened to the world in the last 20 years or so every fear is based purely on model projections. What if the models are wrong? I would argue that the cautious person wondering what is in his best interest would ask ‘why take the risk and change the status quo. ‘
People and businesses make commercial decisions to self insure all the time because they have assessed that the cost of insuring that risk exceeds the cost of managing that insurable risk if indeed that event occurs. Consumers who value there financial assets will do the cost / benefit analysis whether that be health, home,life , business risk or indeed any insurable event. And part of that assessment should be whether if the insurable event occurs will the provider of that insurance payout. If one looks at the policies undertaken by governments and the projected minute impact on future temperatures ( which don’t seem to be disputed) one would be right to believe that no sensible person would buy such insurance.
The arse about logic of the precautionary principal when it applies to AGW is similar to the use of the term denier as appling to sceptics when it is in fact the AGW supporters who deny the natural occilations of the climate cycles and replace this normality with their global warming fantasy world driven by excesses of the CO2 plant food. Who are really the deniers of the real world circumstance?
Your point is taken, but in the many debates with the religious green, the precautionary principle is that we should make changes because it would benefit, it would be good, it would conserve resources, it would lead to a cleaner environment, etc. … even if CAGW theory is wrong.
Of course, what they’re really saying (whether they know it or not), is that we should condemn half the world’s population to energy poverty, just in case cagw is real.
Climate Crisis? Al Gore and Michael Mann Fail Science 101
https://co2islife.wordpress.com/2018/01/05/climate-crisis-al-gore-and-michael-mann-fail-science-101/
Funtowicz & Ravetz talked of urgency as one of the necessary conditions to invoke post-normal science. After nearly 40 years since the NYT declared CAGW an urgent problem I see nothing but failed predictions of doom strewn along the pathway to the present. The climate simply continues to cycle along the pathway staying within its normal bounds. Dr. Curry is right in calling climate a ‘wicked problem’, we still will be working to understand it many decades from now. Let us get back on the righteous pathway of normal science and in the meantime practice ‘Resilience’ as we adapt to whatever challenges lie ahead.
From the article:
I haven’t read Funtowicz and Ravetz’s book, but if that is true, I’m not seeing how “post-normal science” can possibly be any kind of science at all. I always thought the fundamental purpose of science was to provide new information about the real world, not to provide a framework for enabling us to pull off the miracle of solving problems when we don’t have the information that’s necessary to solve them.
With “post-normal science”, we seem to be departing from reality and entering the realm of the absurd. Surely, real science goes in the opposite direction to that.
Cassio,
Thank you for your observation.
I think I understand where you are coming from. I have wondered myself whether the term, ‘post-normal science’, is a misnomer, if only because it allows for the consideration of statements that are not falsifiable – a definite scientific no-no. However, I don’t think it should be dismissed out of hand, because one still has to answer the question: How do we proceed when the uncertainties appear to be unresolvable? In a technical review of the precautionary principle (UNESCO 2005, SHS-2005/WS/21), UNESCO put it this way:
“We can only judge the relative probability [between two hypotheses] when we have sufficient evidence to make this determination. When we lack sufficient evidence about both hypotheses, we should suspend our judgement about which hypothesis is true because we are ignorant about that. But we should not suspend our practical judgement, because we still must decide how to act with respect to these possible hypotheses.”
The phrase ‘practical judgement’ captures it all. That’s where the pragmatic wisdom lies. But it is also were the madness and malfeasance lurks. When it comes down to it, post-normal science is just evidence-based gambling. I used to work in safety-critical systems engineering; another example of evidence-based gambling. So, for me, post-normal science doesn’t seem so bad.
Regards,
John
The big problem is we have the information we need, but it is ignored or hidden. Or just that they don’t understand nonlinear systems.
https://micro6500blog.wordpress.com/2016/12/01/observational-evidence-for-a-nonlinear-night-time-cooling-mechanism/
Temps are regulated by water vapor, co2 changes are filtered out at night.
CS to co2 is under 0.5°C, a non issue.
I, for one, am sure glad that we had a multi-billion-dollar organization around to tell us that when we don’t know enough to decide which course is right, we still have to make a decision somehow.
Post normal is a nice way of saying it. Gravy train, noble cause corruption, ego, fear for career, kudos ect There are many reasons for various types of self delusion that lead to the malpractice of science.
Today’s Denver Post (1/6/18) has an interesting article on drinking raw untreated water. Seems to be a theory that treated water is bad for you since it is full of evil chemicals, non-molecular H2O and leaves out all the good stuff in untreated water. Like parasites and giardia.