Trump White House: Climate ACTIVISTS Are a National Security Threat

Al Qaida leader Osama Bin Laden speaks to a selected group of reporters in mountains of Helmand province in southern Afghanistan Thursday, Dec. 24, 1998. The man accused of masterminding the bombings of U.S. embassies in Africa says the U.S.-British airstrikes on Iraq make it a “duty of Muslims to confront, fight and kill” Americans and Britons. (AP Photo/Rahimullah Yousafzai)

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

h/t Breitbart – The directive which removed Climate Change from the list of national security threats also suggests that the real threat to US national security is climate activists.

From the NSS Document;

… Climate policies will continue to shape the global energy system. U.S. leadership is indispensable to countering an anti-growth energy agenda that is detrimental to U.S. economic and energy security interests. Given future global energy demand, much of the developing world will require fossil fuels, as well as other forms of energy, to power their economies and lift their people out of poverty. The United States will continue to advance an approach that balances energy security, economic development, and environmental protection. The United States will remain a global leader in reducing traditional pollution, as well as greenhouse gases, while expanding our economy. This achievement, which can serve as a model to other countries, flows from innovation, technology breakthroughs, and energy efficiency gains, not from onerous regulation. …

Read more (p22): https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/NSS-Final-12-18-2017-0905.pdf

The NSS document talks of the economic risks posed by radical greens and their anti-growth agenda, but the most extreme greens pose a far more direct threat against the wellbeing of the American people.

The terrorist Osama Bin Laden once tried to recruit radical greens to his global Jihad. Bin Laden saw the fanaticism of the green movement as a weakness which could be exploited to destabilise his enemies.

… Osama bin Laden wrote a letter calling on the American people to help President Barack Obama fight “catastrophic” climate change and “save humanity”, in the latest evidence of his worries about environmental issues, newly released documents show

The letter was among materials that were seized in the May 2, 2011, U.S. raid on bin Laden’s hideout in Pakistan that killed the al Qaeda chief and which were released on Tuesday by the Obama administration.

The undated, unsigned letter “to the American people,” which U.S. intelligence officials attributed to bin Laden, appeared to have been written shortly after Obama began his first term in 2009, based on the letter’s references to events.

Bin Laden’s preoccupation with climate change also emerged as a theme in the first tranche of documents from the raid that was declassified in May 2015, as well as in an audio recording released via the al Jazeera network in January 2010. …

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-binladen-climatechange-idUSKCN0W35MS

Thankfully Osama Bin Laden was killed before his plan to recruit radical western greens was fulfilled, but US greens of today are still just as desperate, arrogant and in some cases demonstrably willing to commit acts of violence and eco-terrorism as they were when Osama Bin Laden tried to recruit them.

As the climate movement collapses, the desperation amongst holdouts will likely increase. It is likely only a matter of time until another enemy attempts to exploit and twist the fanaticism and desperation of the most extreme members of the green movement, to indoctrinate and train them into committing atrocities against the people of the United States.

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99 thoughts on “Trump White House: Climate ACTIVISTS Are a National Security Threat

      • “Osama bin Laden wrote a letter calling on the American people to help President Barack Obama fight “catastrophic” climate change and “save humanity”, in the latest evidence of his worries about environmental issues, newly released documents show”

        I have to call BULLSHIT on this fake news.

        Osama bin Laden hated the west and the US in particular for our actions in the middle east and other parts of the world. Who in their right mind believes he gave a crap about climate change?

  1. The United States will remain a global leader in reducing…greenhouse gases….

    This is like a MIRSA infection. You can dump a pile of antibiotics on it, but it comes right back.

    • The United States will remain a global leader in reducing…greenhouse gases….

      Nothing in that statement indicates DJT himself is worried about “greenhouse gases”.
      Remember he is a negotiator and that statement knocks out the legs of one of the counter arguments.

      • Also, a rational “precautionary principle” might be involved, wherein the potential for disruptive/harmful “GH gas” induced “climate changes” are not entirely dismissed, but is not treated as an inevitability, given the relatively low levels of warming thus far, and low levels of “climate changes” that can be rationally attributed to such “GH gas” effects.

  2. Well, the muh-Russians “recruited” the greens to fight fracking and the Greens don’t care. I’m gonna bet the Greens wouldn’t care if they were being used by Osama too. All for the greater good and whatnot. Windmills! Solar!

  3. The very idea that progress is good is under attack. A large part of our educated population has been infected with the idea that the things that made America great are evil. link

    The thing that keeps the Malthusians from being right is technological progress. We don’t run out of necessary materials because improving technology allows us to use less material or to use different materials. An example is fracking and directional drilling which make it possible to get at oil and gas deposits that weren’t previously viable.

    It is quite a bad thing that the left encourages and abets the eco-radicals. The project should go back to the left and the right both working in their own ways to make things better for Americans in general. The goal should be something like ‘a chicken in every pot’ and not ‘save the lesser brown spotted kangaroo rat’ or ‘capitalism is bad’.

    We have to have the confidence to push forward into a wonderful future. We should not be persuaded to wreck the system that is solving many of the world’s worst problems. WUWT

    • “The thing that keeps the Malthusians from being right is technological progress.”

      Technological progress with a little help from increased CO2 fertilization and slightly longer growing seasons in temperate latitudes.

      • Certainly – if the science is settled [and I am unconvinced] –
        . . . . the increased CO2 fertilization is a part of our technological prowess – I suggest.

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    • It is not just in the US. In Scotland the government and “powers that be” care so little for our industrial heritage that the place where James Watt invented the steam engine is derelict with parts of the engine lying around rusting in the rain and being used as rubbish bins.

      It’s quite clear to me, we live in an anti-industry age where large parts of the west are being run by anti-industry and anti-engineering elites fed by endless anti-industry stories dressed up as environ-mental concern.

      So, for example. If someone seriously believed CO2 were a serious problem (which it is not), then there are two general ways of reducing it.

      1) You reduce consumption and production for the population so we each consume less.
      2) You bring in measures to encourage population reduction so that we all continue consuming as much … but there are fewer of us.

      The first has a dramatic effect on living standards causing us all to become poorer and is extremely divisive.

      The second has negligible effect on living standards – indeed given the cost of bringing up kids, we’d all arguably be better off. There is no harm to any living person, etc.

      But somehow when the eco-nutters talk about draconian changes to society they are completely silent about reducing population and almost everything they talk about involves a wholesale attack on living standards, on industry, engineering.

      As such, it’s very clear this CO2 non-science is just a cloak to hide an anti-development, anti-industry agenda and the nutters pushing it are just using the environment to push an extremist political agenda.

      • Or you close coal plant and bring in renewable energy – which has precisely no effect on living standards and no evil effects on society. Economic growth continues.

        Scotland is now very much renewably powered as far as electricity is concerned.

        I had not noticed its complete collapse?

      • So which part of Scotland does Griff live in or is he just making it up. On the very few days on which a reasonable amount of domestic energy is produced by renewables the greens trumpet it to all who will listen, giving the impression to the gullible that this is normal rather than exceptional. Wit the closure of Longannet Scotland’s power provision is on a knife edge, and another winter like 2010 would be potentially disastrous. You may also have noticed in recent days that long term economic prognostications for Scotland are very gloomy indeed.

      • “…..Or you close coal plant and bring in renewable energy – which has precisely no effect on living standards and no evil effects on society….”.

        Or Griff is so poorly informed and ignorant that he does not know about the toxic waste that solar panels leave behind at the raw material mining and manufacturing phase. And that the will pile up as toxic waste at the end of their useful lives….

        http://www.nationalreview.com/article/449026/solar-panel-waste-environmental-threat-clean-energy.

        “…….A new study by Environmental Progress (EP) warns that toxic waste from used solar panels now poses a global environmental threat. The Berkeley-based group found that solar panels create 300 times more toxic waste per unit of energy than nuclear power plants. Discarded solar panels, which contain dangerous elements such as lead, chromium, and cadmium, are piling up around the world, and there’s been little done to mitigate their potential danger to the environment…..”.

        If I recall correctly, wind turbines leave toxic waste behind as well. Wake up and smell the manure Griffy-poo.

      • Griff

        December 19, 2017 at 4:54 am

        Or you close coal plant and bring in renewable energy – which has precisely no effect on living standards and no evil effects on society. Economic growth continues.

        Scotland is now very much renewably powered as far as electricity is concerned.

        I had not noticed its complete collapse?

        To see the direct environmental damages created from Wind Power and EV battery manufacture you need look no further than how and where the needed elements are mined
        https://www.google.com/search?q=%22CHINESE+RARE+EARTH+MINES%22&lr=&hl=en&as_qdr=all&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiAq7GC1JbYAhUSw2MKHXc-DF0QsAQIMA&biw=1902&bih=1070
        Definitely “NO EVIL ON SOCIETY” here and NO environmental damage either. (Just look how clean the process is)
        /sarc

      • There’s no point replying to Griff. As he has told us, all he’s doing is repeating what he reads in the left-wing newspapers. What’s the purpose of arguing with that?

      • Actually Griff is half right.

        A lot of people in our old neighbourhood in England used to buy cheap wood from someone “it isn’t a business, just a hobby really”. Nobody ever asked questions – they needed cheap renewables to heat their home more than they needed to report dodgy local forestry officials.

      • “Eric Worrall December 19, 2017 at 3:39 pm

        A lot of people in our old neighbourhood in England used to buy cheap wood…”

        In the ’70’s my father and I would wander the nearby industrial estate for wooden pallets, broken or not. The 1970’s were cold and my father could not afford coal, and the house did have a coal bunker too. We were, in actual fact, stealing these things to burn. And they burned very well. My father didn’t know, and I certainly didn’t then, that these pallets were treated and the ash was toxic.

        As they say, what you don’t know doesn’t hurt you.

      • As predicted by Ayn Rand in her book: “Return of the Primitive, The New Left – The Anti-Industrial Revolution” 1971

      • In Griff’s world, drastically increasing energy costs have no impact, because other taxes have made it so that the people couldn’t afford energy at any price.

    • Yes, when people are motivated by unsupportable emotional arguments, getting them to buy in to other self destructive and counterproductive fantasies, is as easy as getting a dog to eat bacon.

    • Go watch “Five Easy Pieces” (1970) and the segment where they pick up the two hitchhikers. Listen to the rantings of “Palm” (Helena Kallianiotes) and realize nothing has really changed in 50 years of environ-mental lunacy.

  4. Climate sanity, from a US President, amazing. & I hear he’s rolling back regulations by the score.
    Does this mean that there’s hope for free enterprise in the mad U$Asylum Empire?
    Or, having just had their backsides kicked in Syria, along with their ISIS/Al-Qaeda mercenerary proxies, does it just mean that the US/UK/ZIO/Bankster NWO, along with their now-feuding Gulf State Moneybags, has realised the US military is not up to world domination & must regroup & modernise?
    We live in interesting times.

    At least it looks like TPTB have realised the climate scam is a dead duck, & China, Russia, Iran, Egypt, Turkey & others are getting on with building OBOR, one belt, one road infrastructure projects, instead of trying to bomb the world back to pre-industrial medieval times, as the mad NWO Empire is intent on.

    There is hope in the world.
    Have a good Christmas, everyone.
    John Doran.

    • John,
      Thanks.
      Can you help me – probably alone – with one, at least ,of your acronyms.
      Like TPTB – it can’t be The Powers That Be – can it. In your reference you seem to be talking about watermelons.
      Is NWO New World Order?
      I get UK [!] and ZIO

      “We live in interesting times.” – yes, Fukuyama was wrong.

      MTMAI

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      • Auto, sorry, I take too much for granted. For clarity:

        1) TPTB = The Powers That Be. By which I mean primarily the Central Banksters who have secured the power to create money out of thin air, as debt, in cahoots with the very few politicians bright enough to have spotted this scam. Ron Paul is a shining exception: he knows the score. These Central Banksters now control the West, its govts & political parties. I abbreviate this as the Rothschild/ZIO/UK/US Empire, tracing the roots back to the Brit/Rothschild plan for global domination. Two Books:
        1) Pawns in the Game, William Guy Carr.
        2) The Creature from Jekyll Island, G. Edward Griffin.
        3.5 hour YouTube: BILL STILL MONEY MASTERS
        Research: fractional reserve banking/lending.
        It’s a bigger con than the climate scam: endless profits out of thin air.

        2) Watermelons, as James Delingpole so cutely describes them, are the political troops of these Banksters: GreenPiss, WWF, Sierra Club, etc, etc ad infinitum.

        3) NWO = New World Order, yes.
        Their ultimate goal is a Feudal, pre-industrial world of Lords & Serfs, after a vast depopulation, ~95%?
        http://www.c3headlines.com
        Click on Quotes.
        http://www.green-agenda.com/index.html

        4) We live in interesting times is based on an ancient Chinese sly insult; “May you live in interesting times” meant: “I hope your life is chaotic.” 🙂

        MTMAI? FUKUYAMA?
        Cheers,
        JD.

    • I just personally hope he regains sanity in other areas too. After all he did won basically because of fearmongering (America sucks!) and empty promises (but luckily for you, only I can offer salvation and enlightment!) You would think that climate skeptics, out of all people, would recognize and resent those tactics. Not to mention his protectionist and nationalist views which doesn’t exactly instill a great deal of confidence. I’m just sick of people worshipping politicians. First Obama and now Trump.

    • amtrak has a great record of derailing themselves, tho.
      when the gov runs a railroad, it digs a dirt road.

      • The train was going too fast.

        We need to understand why the engineer didn’t obey the speed limit.

        I heard a railroad expert say this morning that the tracks over which the train ran were setup to use Positive Train Control, which would have automatically slowed the train down as it came to the curve, but this particular train was not equipped to use Positive Train Control.

        I didn’t figure it could have been a track defect. Usually, when an important event like this takes place, the railroads will send out inspection crews ahead of the train to make darn sure everything is strike (in good shape).

      • That information came from one of the riders who was connected to the agency which oversaw the building of the new track. He also stated that the train was running 30 minutes behind schedule which had to do with why the train was running at high speeds. He was riding in the car which sat side hill at the end of the crash. He gives an impromptu news interview at the scene, and his voice is uneven and stuttering a bit through out the interview. That was a bad one, but it looks like engineer error. There are going to be a ton of lawsuits over this.

    • I wondered about that possibility. Then I came across a story which presented information from an official who worked for the agency which oversaw the building of the new track. He was on the train to take part in the inaugural run of the new track, and was sitting in the car that ended up on the side of the hill. He stated that the train had been running 30 minutes behind schedule, and that the engineer was trying to make up some of that time. Very unfortunate, and careless there will be ten tons of lawsuits over this.

      That person gave an impromptu interview at the scene. His voice is pretty shaking sounding through the entire interview. It can be found on YouTube.

    • I remember all the fuss about that ad campaign like it was yesterday. People didn’t get that we were in a war, fighting against overwhelming odds.

    • Two more delusional people who believe in CAGW: Ted Kaczynski and Osama bin Laden.

      I bet even Alarmist would recognize these two are delusional. Too bad they cannot recognize it in themselves but I guess that’s to be expected since it is hard for a delusional person to know they are delusional because they are delusional.

  5. The people who believe in global warming are definitely kind of wacko. They all seem to feel like no one should argue with them. When they don’t seem to know the answers to basic questions.

  6. “The United States will remain a global leader in reducing traditional pollution, as well as greenhouse gases, while expanding our economy.”
    Unfortunately, our government still has an entrenched Climatist infection, as shown by that statement and others. Although progress is being made, I’m not sure that Trump sees the problem all that clearly.

    • It would be more accurate if they removed “traditional” that would eliminate the false association of CO2 and pollution.

      Reducing CO2 may not be desirable, but it is true that the USA has reduced CO2 emissions, unlike most Paris signatories.

    • Bruce it says …..” greenhouse gases”…..not mentioning CO2. I’m sure he knows EXACTLY what the truth is.

  7. GALACTIC CYCLE DENIERS are so stupid it defies belief – YES – Pollution is a problem – but CO2 and water vapor in the concentrations we have on earth are ESSENTIAL for LIFE to thrive.

    Anybody who thinks that CO2 at 0.05% of atmosphere by volume with 9 degrees of freedom can ever be a serious contender for Climate Changes should realize that water vapor is 20 times the greenhouse gas at 1% with 9 degrees of freedom.

    We currently live in an ice age with ice at the north and south poles – however we live in an interglacial period in an ice age – so warming and cooling is all part of the normal natural GALACTIC CYCLE.

  8. Green radicals will never convince me they are interested in lowering carbon emissions when they fight the ONLY technologies that can meaningfully reduce these emissions. No one who has given any thought to reducing them can justify being against nuclear energy, against hydroelectric power and against natural gas which is responsible for a 10% reduction in carbon emissions in the US which should be hailed as a crowning achievement for the ‘Cause’. One can only conclude that these people are not serious or they are incapable of understanding that they are simply tools of a political movement that has nothing to do with the environment.

  9. Typical America First comment. Hrrumph. The threat is to GLOBAL security, and most extreme in the 3rd World where all the trouble is at, which needs all the energy it can get to become developed and thus solve all the other problems that require wealth and education to deliver.

    The problem comes when they are delivered as if normal, so the next genertion of the elite all want to kill off the basic underpinnings that made them possible, with no practical understanding of how all our health, wealth and happiness is delivered by technology they prefer not to like, and to deny these capable enrgy sourcs to those still to apply them, who they prefer to continue to live in an undeliverable world of woefully inadequate weak and intermittent enrgy, which in fact the 3rd World already endures, thanks. adding batteries to inadeqaute supply makes no more energy, just time shifts it very expenively. But it needn’t be coa. No reason why the third world cannot develop using modular SMRs, though. But gas is fine if its available uder the ground. Clean and easy to pipe wherever it’s needed, warlords permitting.

  10. The security threat from climate activists is also evidenced by the valve-turners who illegally attacked pipelines out of their fear of global warming. Three trials found them guilty, but so far no serious sentences. One more trial (in Minnesota) comes in February, when apparently the “necessity” defense will be allowed. No matter the outcome, it seems there will be more of this sort of activism. unilateral ideological action.

    https://rclutz.wordpress.com/2017/10/07/a-valve-turners-trial-mostly-guilty-october-6-2017/

      • OK, not innocent. Hung jury, then mixed verdict.

        After a first trial ended in a hung jury, in a second trial earlier this month, the jury found Ward technically guilty of second degree burglary, but deadlocked (for the second time) and failed to find him guilty of the charge of sabotage.

    • I agree that climate activists that go to extremes of lies or actions are, in fact, an authentic security risk. It was a shame that this sham piece trying to tie bin Laden to them was ever written.

  11. Bin Laden was backed by a foreign oil producing country. If American oil production goes up, imported oil goes down and would have affected Bin Laden’s sponsor. Eastern Canada imports foreign oil instead of using Alberta oil, refuses to use Alberta oil. Why? The country that Canada imports oil from then buys Canadian made military vehicles built in the eastern 1/2 of Canada. Follow the money, it always leads to the answer.

    • Bin Laden had as great a hatred for the Saudi royals as he did for anybody. They allowed the US onto sacred soil, as far as he was concerned. He was ostracized by the Saudis. Not only that, but the man was dying of renal failure in 2003, so whoever wrote a letter to Obama or tried to recruit green fools was a manufactured spook. This whole piece reads like a child’s tale created from fake news.

  12. This article is impressive. Only since the imposition of Trumpism has holding a political view become a “national security threat.” What next? Re-education (concentration) camps?

    • Ron,
      Be assured the the US Progressives and the Eco-facsists have long ago, and many times, advocated “re-education” concentration camps for those opposing their views. The weaponization of the legal branch of fogovernment by Democrats to use criminal legal processes to attack Conservatives is well documented.

      The Obama IRS.
      The Obama DOJ.
      The Obama FBI.

      The powers given to the IRS are frightening. They can seize bank accounts and properties with zero due process with merely the claim of a tax bill. They hold financial records on every individual and business in this country. Obama could not resist the temptation of a weaponized IRS would enable political victories. All that stops the IRS from weaponization is the DOJ and the FBI. Weaponize those too, and you have an unstoppable government.

      The clear danger are the Progressives who will use any and every means to advance their cause.

    • “What next? Re-education (concentration) camps?”

      No. That was what would have happened if Clinton had won.

      But, hey, SJWs always project.

  13. It is clear the White House, DJT, and his National Security Advisor understand that Climate Change and its CO2-scaremongering are just a Trojan Horse carrying a socialist agenda, one-world government agenda.

    Can anyone imagine Little Marco Rubio, or Low Energy Jeb as President having big enough cajones to put that out there as a challenge to the Watermelon mafia? They probably would go along because the swamp wants it to go on as it consolidates power inside the Beltway and empowers lobbyists with campaign cash.

    • I would support a One World Government but it would require the USA to add several hundred more states and stars to the old Stars and Stripes.

    • “Can anyone imagine Little Marco Rubio, or Low Energy Jeb as President having big enough cajones to put that out there as a challenge to the Watermelon mafia?”

      Neither Marco or Jeb! would have been much better than Hillary on these subjects. They definitely wouldn’t challenge the Left and the MSM.

      Their desire is to be loved by the MSM, so they have to toe the Leftist line to a certain extent. Like Republicans, before Trump, used to do all the time, and still do. They understand the power of the MSM and don’t want them on their back. Trump doesn’t care what the MSM thinks because he knows they are delusional.

  14. There is no better way to control and suppress the people.
    “Your lack money, freedom and democracy is saving the world.”
    I’m sure, in whatever hell exists, Stalin, Hitler and Bin Laden wish daily they could have acted on it.

  15. Osama bin Laden was not the brains behind al Qaeda. He was the money man, “rainmaker”, figurehead and inspirational figure. He was portrayed as the modern Saladin. Ayman al-Zawahiri was and is the brains. I doubt Osama did anything without Zawahiri’s approval. al-Zawahiri was/ is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood. Suggest everyone take the time to read or re-read Sun Tzu’s “The Art of War.” Along with the lessons learned from Islam’s martial past they are following Sun Tzu pretty closely. So siding with the radical greens and radical socialists in the West would certainly fit well into their long term strategies. Appreciate the radical socialists opposition to any and all anti-jihadists speaking on campus, including women who were just trying to explain women’s lives under strictly enforced Sharia. We know that the Antifa, other radical socialist groups and the radical environmentalists walk hand in hand. That they would join with the radical Islamists should be of no surprise. They all have one goal destroy capitalism and Western democracies, with the United States being at the top of all their lists.

    • Edwin I read somewhere bin Laden started out as a structural engineer. Of course that may not have been true but chances are someone involved was. That’s why those planes struck quite low. I watched on live TV at work in the UK. Chilling. I knew what would happen next.

      • A small, single-engine airplane deliberately tried to crash into the White House on September 11, 1994.

        Fortunately, the pilot was not able to hit the White House, and hit the White House lawn instead. President Clinton was not at the White House at the time of the attack.

        I always wondered if this incident is what gave Osama bin Laden the idea to use aircraft against American targets. The guy that crashed on the White House lawn showed just how easy it was to hit at the heart of the American system.

        Too bad that attack didn’t spur American intelligence to consider the danger posed by aircraft. Vice President Al Gore was instrumental in killing the effort to strengthen aircraft cockpit doors to prevent terrorists from entering the cockpit.

        The airlines didn’t want to spend the extra money, and Al Gore was their man. Good move, Al.

      • People had been writing stories about using hijacked airliners as weapons for years before 9/11. Heck, the ‘Lone Gunman’ X-files spin-off show had an episode about flying remotely-hijacked airliners into the World Trade Centre about six months before 9/11.

      • Osama bin Laden also had the example of the French airliner that was hijacked in Algeria by a separate terrorist group on Dec. 24, 1994. The terrorists planned to fly the aircraft to Paris and crash it into the Eiffel Tower.

        But the aircraft had to land to refuel before they could proceed to Paris, and while they were on the ground in Marseille, French Special Forces stormed the aircraft and stopped the hijacking.

        Osama bin Laden had some new attack modes presented to him in 1994: the one at the White House, and this one.

        Bin Laden’s group also talked about hijacking a large number of airliners (12 or more) at one time, from the Phillippines and other Asian nations, and blowing them all up over the Pacific Ocean at the same time, which would have killed a LOT of innocent people.

        I think this “Pacific Ocean” plan was the brainchild of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, and I think the timeframe was about 1995 or 1996.

      • bin Laden’s father owned one of the biggest construction companies in the Middle East. Osama was suppose to follow in his father’s business. No one imagined that the World Trade Center would collapse as it did. It was assumed by al Qaeda that planes full of jet fuel would be enough to so damage the buildings they would be unusable and al Qaeda would have pictures of the buildings burning as propaganda.

  16. I just don’t think Osama bin Laden was an Alarmist. It seems to me he would have thought that what the climate does is the will of God and questoning the direction it was taking would be blasphemy.

    I wouldn’t put it past him to try to use Alarmists to help his cause, though.

  17. Well if you have an antihumanist point of view and you proclaim that your absolute goals warrant the use of any means necessary…You could be a danger to peaceful productive citizens.
    With a colourful history of vandalism,physical assault and endless uttering of threats, on the part of Gang Green, law enforcement would be very negligent if they failed to consider the threat to public safety that groups of such mentally disturbed persons represent.

  18. UK-side, the BBC is currently leading the new drive to recruit the greens against: Plastics.
    Of course they are no better informed in this respect than their campaign against carbon dioxide, but it will actually be much less harmful because they are not then attacking the bedrock of industrial society, cheap energy. I am almost inclined to indulge them in this. Merely distracting a four-year old is sometimes the easiest option.

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