Friday Funny – Bonus Edition: Josh on Mann’s call for “trench warfare”

Readers may recall a story from earlier this week where Lewandowsky and Mann called for “trench warfare” with climate skeptics related to a new slime attack paper against Dr. Susan Crockford and climate skeptics where Dr. Judith Curry opined:

This is absolutely the stupidest paper I have ever seen published.

In the press release, they said this:

To counteract the blogs’ pernicious effects, the authors argue that scientists must now engage in the “trench warfare” of public debate: “We strongly believe that scientists have a professional and moral obligation not only to inform the public about the findings and implications of their research but also to counter misinformation.” This fight, the authors caution, may require an adaptation of tactics: “Many scientists mistakenly believe that debates with deniers over the causes and consequences of climate change are purely science driven, when in reality the situation with deniers is probably more akin to a street fight.”

Josh weighs in:

The reference to “no more money” comes from this finding.

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December 2, 2017 2:13 am

is this another Friday funny or Nikola Tesla’s revenge
250,000 lightning strikes overnight felled power lines and cut supply around the (Australian) state’s Tesla battery on the day it was switched on.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/south-australia-storms-power-blackouts-as-tesla-battery-is-turned-on/news-story/de20d9518b40191381e9534eca722980

p.s. Nikola Tesla was born approximately at midnight, between July 9 and July 10, 1856, during a lightning storm.
http://selections.rockefeller.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Tesla_colorado_adjusted.jpg
Nikola Tesla in his Colorado lab, 1899 (image from Rockefeller University website)

BillP
Reply to  vukcevic
December 2, 2017 8:36 am

Basically they built the battery in the wrong place.

As previously reported on this site, a major problem is that the remote wind turbines are connected to the consumer by a flimsy power grid. Building a battery where the wind turbines are may reduce the problems of variability in the wind but they do nothing about the grid.

They should have built the battery as close to the consumer as possible. I know that there are land price issues in cities, but a site somewhere on the outskirts should have been possible.

Alternatively put it next to the large transformer station that served the, now demolished, coal plants. That has multiple power lines connecting to it giving a measure of redundancy.

Reply to  BillP
December 3, 2017 9:43 am

The logical place for the battery is next to a large fire house with a 24/7 staff and lots of heavy fire fighting equipment, foam, and water on hand.

The Original Mike M
Reply to  vukcevic
December 3, 2017 6:43 am

(The Australian wants $4/week? I was born at night but it wasn’t last night. Goodbye Australian!)

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-28/energy-regulator-has-done-everything-possible-to-stop-blackout/9200344

She (Ms Zibelman) said AEMO could deliver 800 megawatts of additional power from gas generators. The regulator is also planning to ask big power users and utilities to cut their use of power when demand rises.

AEMO said that would allow them to pump more than 1,000 megawatts of power into the system if needed.

We take a look at the process of load shedding and why it takes place. Still, AEMO is not guaranteeing the lights will stay on when temperatures soar.

The operator’s summer readiness report said demand could be “precariously tight” if any major power generators are taken offline for maintenance.

December 2, 2017 8:08 am

here is one more from genius-entrepreneur Elon Musk
The SpaceX chief executive has revealed the company is due to put its first Falcon Heavy rocket into space next month, taking Tesla car into orbit around Mars.
more here

Stu
Reply to  vukcevic
December 2, 2017 3:56 pm

It’s amazing what you can do when you have billions of dollars of government money. I wonder if it was his money if he would be so generous.

observa
Reply to  vukcevic
December 3, 2017 1:45 am

You get the feeling Mr Musk is fast running out of other people’s money-
https://www.msn.com/en-au/motoring/news/comment-tesla-roadster-launch-is-an-illusion-nothing-more/ar-BBFZ4FE
But Tesla BIG BATTERY fans have more to worry about long term than their car deposits-
http://www.mining.com/web/cobalt-sulphate-prices-continue-rise-battery-demand-metal-remains-stable/

observa
Reply to  vukcevic
December 3, 2017 2:09 am

The cobalt cliff problem for the true believers in large scale lithium battery solutions to their perceived problems is explained well here-
https://investorintel.com/sectors/technology-metals/technology-metals-intel/cheap-lithium-ion-batteries-for-evs-vs-the-cobalt-cliff/

Reply to  observa
December 3, 2017 9:47 am

For what a tesla powerwall will cost, one can buy a huge whole home back up generator, a huge propane tank and thousands of gallons of propane.
An average medium sized home will need at least 4 powerwall battery packs at a cost of over $20,000, and these will run that house for a day at most.

Nick Werner
December 2, 2017 1:42 pm

I think these fourteen co-authors have mistaken their gutter for a trench.

Bruce Cobb
December 2, 2017 3:54 pm

May they all come down with a severe case of trench mouth.

Kevin Schurig
December 2, 2017 7:55 pm

Interesting choice, “trench warfare”. It was made obsolete.

Zeke
December 2, 2017 7:55 pm

“To counteract the blogs’ pernicious effects, the authors argue that scientists must now engage in the “trench warfare” of public debate…”

Well perhaps scientific controversies are a bit of a contact sport. (:

The Original Mike M
December 3, 2017 6:17 am

What Michael calls a “trench” is what the the rest of us call a place to hide from accountability given his propensity to block twitter accounts of anyone he is unable answer.

Robert B
December 6, 2017 4:22 am

Watching the 5th wave while reading. A bad movie but interesting plot. Aliens want to eliminate humans because they want Earth for themselves. They con children into hating and fighting the Others until some realise that they are fighting humans for the Others in human form. Adults were killed because they would be too sceptical.
Publishing propaganda in a science journal is to create classroom material. No scientist would fall for it.