Guest essay by Eric Worrall
What do you do when your feeble climate evidence fails to convince?
Climate scientists reveal their fears for the future
Cradling her newborn baby girl, heatwave expert Sarah Perkins Kirkpatrick admits to feeling torn between the joy of motherhood and anxiety over her first-born child’s future.
“I always wanted a big family and I’m thrilled. But my happiness is altered by what I know is coming with climate change,” she said.
“I don’t like to scare people but the future’s not looking very good.
“Having a baby makes it personal. Will this child suffer heatstroke just walking to school?”
…
‘I wouldn’t want to live in Brisbane or further north’
How hot could it get?
All of Australia is vulnerable to climate change but Dr Perkins Kirkpatrick said as the decades progress, some regions will be better off than others in terms of heatwaves.
“We’ve already seen changes in heatwaves, particularly their frequency, and these heatwaves are only going to get worse, particularly in the tropics, where the number of heatwave days will be much greater than now,” she said.
…
Read more: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-27/climate-scientists-speak-of-their-worst-fears/8631368
There are plenty of reasons to live North of Brisbane, such as the balmy 73F winter day I’m currently enjoying.
Up here on the edge of the tropics, we have discovered a simple solution to heatwaves, a solution which obviously hasn’t filtered down to our cousins in more temperate regions.
Our solution to heatwaves – stay indoors, crank up the air conditioning. Or wear a hat and drink lots of water, if you have to be outside.
So sad,.. delusions for life will infect the newborn. Regardless of the argument,… raising a new sprout on negativity, misandry and perspective of misery might be considered ‘child abuse’ in some corner. Hope they brighten-up and learn to be more positive and constructive in their lives. Karma {way of thinking founded on hubris of control} is the path to 181,00 rebirths of suffering and misery. Seek enlightenment! Forget the nonsense,..
Who lets their kid “walk to school” any more? Most places, you get busted for “risk of injury to a minor” if they’re out of your sight until they’re 26 years old . . . /sarc!
Sparky, very good points.
I wonder if this woman is fit to raise a child. The poor child could be exposed to such irrational thinking on global warming and who knows what else. Are the college professors pumping such nonsense into their students. Hopefully some will take your advice as they grow up. Hopefully she is just acting to get attention since that seems to be popular today with the anti Trump folks.
Is it too much to hope that she does no more breeding?
As the judge said to the dentist, “Take the tooth, the whole tooth and nothing but the tooth>”
The climate “scientists” should worry about employability after being involved in the greatest academic fraud of the 20th century, spilled for almost a generation into the 21st century.
I watched parts of this sideshow alley bit on ABC’s Lateline program and was just appalled at the antics of these so called scientists. That sort of narcissistic grandstanding says all you need to know about the substance of their science…there is none imo.
As for the snivelling & sobbing 0f Dr Hyphenated-Name with lots of makeup, it was the trigger for me to switch off and hit the sack for a good night’s sleep, safe in the knowledge that climate scientists are truly just a silly joke.
Going on about her fears for her baby girl in the future, Dr Hyphenated-Name struck me not so much as a bit of a ‘helicopter parent’ ( that is so 20th century anyway) but rather as the latest iteration, the ‘drone parent’.
The poor kid. The poor, poor kid. Parents who think they are saving the world and their kids but have really just developed anew form of child neglect if not abuse.
So why did she have a baby if it is only going to contribute to CAGW ??
What people say they “feel” and what they do, in response to other feelings, are two different things.
What someone “feels” and 0.92 cents will get you a senior coffee at McDonalds.
g
Obviously on paid parental leave from some university/government dept. Now worried about funding of her department (its that time of the year again) so makes utterance about child’s future to get fellow travelers worried that without windmills and panels there is no future. Not worried about aircon because there will be not enough power to run same from windmill.
I know several mothers like this. What they are really worried about is their future in a world that no longer needs them. Pushing an idea without any result is now unraveling. Big government is running out of money.
I think we’ve missed the big picture thingy here:
Viewing models & more models, this young woman has obviously discovered that NOBODY HAS SURVIVED LIVING IN AUSTRALIA FOR THE LAST 30,000 YEARS. ALL PREVIOUS AUSTRALIAN HISTORY IS A FRAUD, PERPETRATED BY REAL ESTATE DEVELOPERS. “CRIMINALS FROM ENGLAND” IS JUST A CRUEL JOKE.
I feel very fortunate to have seen this between the lines of this anguished young woman’s concerns for her (only) child, apparently an undernourished vegan, who will have to walk at least 5 miles to/from school (uphill both ways), without a proper hat. Oh, the humanity!
Moving South??
http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/news/video/201706/CNb_ClimateLATELINE_2706_1000k.mp4
Sorry, the best I can do is this:
http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/news/video/201706/CNb_ClimateLATELINE_2706_1000k.mp4
The mad fools!
Apparently they actually take this garbage seriously, and aren’t just in it for the money, career enhancement and virtue signalling.
Never underestimate the intense stupidity of educated idiots.
Gabro, look at the bright side… She may end up deciding not to have any more kids, thus saving the gene pool! (i would add, too, that maybe her child will die of heat stroke walking to school, but i’m not that mean… ☺)
(i am mean, i’m just not THAT mean)…
But.but, WHAT ABOUT SAVING THE PLANET?
As usual these hypocrites think other should do all the save the planet stuff and they can go on with their lives as long as they pay lip service.
If you look at all the shit in the world right now, climate change is 100y time is the least of the problems her newly born will have to face.
Gabro,
“Apparently they actually take this garbage seriously, and aren’t just in it for the money, career enhancement and virtue signalling.”
Perhaps . . but it’s all a big IF they are speaking of . . beware false prophets, eh ; )
there is a type of lonely person who enjoys confession and joins various 12 step programs for the drama and camaraderie.
she just must have got herself kicked out by the drunks…
The only heatwave this lass experienced was during coitus.
@GlennM
One can only hope she’s had that experience.
Don’t go there being misogynic.
Termites like big families too. I have no idea if it thrills them or not.
I always thought that it was all about the thrill, not about the big family.
Howcum J.S. Bach had such a big family ??
g
Good work, Watson. Holmes would be impressed.
These people are like dolphins. When trapped in a trawler’s net, although they are intelligent, it never occurs to the dolphin to simply jump up, over and out of the net, an ability that they demonstrably have. Like the dolphins, it never seems to occur to climate scientists that man is an adaptive species. Many of our ancestors came out of Africa to populate the cold, harsh northern regions of Europe. We are the consummate adapters. We developed ways to keep warm while our bodies gradually adapted to the cold. I’m pretty sure we can go in the opposite direction just as easily.
So I would say to the good Doctor, don’t worry, be happy! Buy a nice window A/C, down a pint and enjoy yourself! Our descendants will probably be just as adaptive as our ancestors (and we) are.
By the way. Dr Perkins-Fitzpatrick is very concerned about the future, but in the end, she did have a baby, so I would go with what she does, not what she says.
To be fair dolphins most likely don’t see the net coming until too late. Picture driving down a road in light fog at night, with a dark wall *moving* towards you at the same time…
Yes! The whole climate crisis meme ignores the dynamic adaptability of life and humanity. This is like sitting on the sofa fretting about starvation, while ignoring the fact that you have legs and could walk into the kitchen and get something to eat! Once you realize that you can actually do something to relieve your hunger (go get food), the whole idea of worrying about starving to death becomes pretty crazy.
Never mind the bollocks! It isn’t even getting warmer!!
Reminded me of lines from an old-school Chicago (the band) song,
“I haven’t been there lately. [the city]
The country is so fine.
People there don’t act hungry,
’cause they haven’t got the time.”
Actually I think most of our ancestors came out of Africa and headed east. Then people from the East came back and tried to make a go of it in those cold northern places.
g
And I am sure they have no idea what a net is…
No children ever born in the 300,000 year history of H. sapiens has ever faced fewer challenges than those lucky enough to enter the world in this century.
Remember: your warranty expires at 25 years as the “young sprouts” take you “out”.
We may have extended the human warranty, thanks to the scientific revolution since AD 1543, but in many fields of science and math, you’re right. Your best work will be done in your 20s.
But the world couldn’t function with only people under 30.
Somehow the Founding Fathers knew, without benefit of brain, skeletal and psycho-socio research, that humans aren’t fully mature until age 35.
Us old farts are still needed to cuff the young dolts across the ear hole as needed.
best work starts around 20’s but ends when you end up actually getting laid regularly.
quit on a win, i guess….
As I’ll be turning 35 this year, ’tis good to know my maturity is complete. And I’ll be able to say, “I’m not old. I’m presidential!”
(So far my requests for campaign contributions have all been met with blank stares. :] )
I manage ships.
One oil major said, quite openly, your senior officers need experience.
They need to have seen – experienced – problems. Trouble, if you like.
Dealing with the sea – entirely right.
Also exposure to “make do and mend” stories from older seafarers.
How I gained most of my respect for the sea, until I had a green wave break over my bridge – about 75-85 feet above the water [23-26 metres]. Three wave trains from different directions, and we fell into the ‘hole’ ahead of the wall of water.
If in trouble, they may not be specifically analog – but might give guidance to how a solution [temporary/until something better is devised/enough to get you to a safe port] is derived.
Do our young people appreciate this hierarchy?
Auto
I would challenge that only slightly – because of antibiotic resistance.
We have perhaps 20-30 years to solve that problem, or we will go backwards healthwise.
Reading about the growth in numbers of the “anti-vaxxers”, maybe the human species is ALREADY going backwards!
You know how anti-bacterial cleaners always say they kill “99.9%” of germs? I’d say it’s the 0.1% they DON’T kill that you need to worry about.
Perhaps in 20-30 years we’ll be pioneering stuff like nanobodies–microscopic robots that can kill harmful bacteria at the cellular level–and won’t be using so many antibiotics.
Emphasize that!
The “antibiotic crisis” is mostly an economical one. Regulation and litigation have driven the cost of drug development so high that pharmaceutical companies have little incentive to come up with new antibiotics. Consider that a course of treatment typically lasts some two weeks – after which the patient is either cured or dead (or switched to another drug because the first one failed). The drug companies find it far more attractive to develop drugs that people will take for the rest of their lives – whether those drugs will solve an unsolved problem or not. Antibiotic research in industry continues to decline even now.
Scientifically, selectively killing bacteria remains a much simpler problem than selectively killing tumor cells, not to mention pipe dreams such as “curing Alzheimer’s”. There are many promising early-stage lead compounds, but again, getting anyone to sponsor the costly and risky clinical trials is the problem.
Well they never had to try texting while driving, without walking off a cliff or on to a railroad track in front of the train.
I believe that Charles Darwin wrote a book about texting while driving.
g
There WILL come a day when (real) scientists rely on hard data that has been verified, validated, and cross-validated.
I’m “feeling” we may have to wait a bit for that to happen!!!
tom
Plus lots.
Thanks.
Auto
Not actually holding my breath!
What are the qualifications of a “Heat Wave Expert”?
Reading a thermometer and hand waving perhaps.
Oh, how amusing. New born, right. Lady, I know from experience, while you might not know it, your worries about heat waves are leaving your world at escape velocity and your priorities are about to change big time.
Sleep and caca disposal are about to surge to the forefront. But, then, she should be well versed in CACA.
I don’t know about the baby, but she obviously came down with the last shower.
It’s called ‘baby brain’ and it lasts for up to 10 years. After 10 years they then become entitled to tell everyone what to do. The excuse is that the ‘mother gene’ kicks in.
But is Australia even getting significantly warmer? Perkins-Kilpatrick looks no more than thirty something, so if Oz is anything like the US, there probably has not been real warming during her lifetime.
No place on Earth is getting significantly warmer.
The stupid fool should be worrying about her sprog freezing its butt off from frost bite.
I don’t see the make-up on her face melting.
UAH Australia, 20 years
nb.. I just looked up the up to date chart. trend in 20 years is now 0.0019Cº/yr, down from 0.0022Cº/yr
PANIC TIME !!!!!
AndyG55, now look at what you have done. You have gone all sciency on us and the poor (new) mother was talking about feelings. For instance, when I say “I feel it is time for a beer”, there is no need for science to get involved.
Well, there you go, you’ve just removed the reason for only having one child!
@ron-
It’s definitely time for a beer! As soon as it warms up here in Canada, anyway.
Ah, but it’s all definitely going to happen, Tom. Definitely. Absolutely definitely.
And when it does it’ll be terrible. Definitely terrible. And unbearable. Absolutely unbearable.
Believe it.
My father would tell me stories of the area around Balarat, how hot it would be in the late 20s and early 30s, the fires that ran through the Eucalyptus groves, jumping over roads, the fire breaks they had to build, the way they built houses with thick walls, etc. He maintained that the decades after the war were no where near as hot as the 30s Irrespective or whether it is actually hotter or not, they persisted and lived through it without air conditioning (just a lot of beer it seems).
This shows just how easy it is to obtain a Doctorate nowadays. Such a simpleton cannot understand even the most well-known facts about CO2, as taught to most teenagers at school!
Have a look at ‘The Carbon Cycle’ for school children. If you search for just that I was directed to a site that started out as normal but ended with a diatribe about the ‘pollutant CO2’ and how much warming it was causing. Everything has been tampered with.
Facts about CO2 are no longer taught in schools.
Only AGW Anti-Facts.
No CO2, only “earth scorching CO2” in schools
I just had lunch at a restaurant that had a big CO2 warning sign on a door leading to the kitchen. The sign said you could get asphyxiated if you went through that door, without paying attention to the high CO2 concentration in there.
No ! I am not making this up.
G
I am not an academic (retired CFO), so I can’t make heads or tails out of Dr Perkins-Kirkpatrick’s education (https://au.linkedin.com/in/sarah-perkins-kirkpatrick-6b123449). Her BS,MS and PhD were all in “Atmospheric Sciences and Meteorology”, which kinda sounds “science-y”, but there is nothing obvious in her work that looks like real hard-core physics (and all the rigor that implies), although she did win the “Tall Poppy” award(?).
Can someone decode her educational background to tell me if she’s an atmospheric physicist or a political scientist disguising herself as a physicist?
Her PhD evaluated models. No doubt she found that they underestimated the dread horror of what is to come.
She probably constructed a model to evaluate the models too…
How does one evaluate a model. They change so often it is hard to judge. They don’t seem to care who is around, while they are changing. I guess they just get used to changing.
g
@george – winner for today. And it’s time for another beer (can we get a consensus on that?)
Her BS,MS and PhD… We all know what BS is, therefore MS must be more of the same and PhD means it’s piled higher and deeper.
Ha ha ha! Love that, thank you.
A Ph. D. is someone who has learned more and more about less and less, until they finally know everything there is to know about absolutely nothing at all.
Well in many cases they are also the world’s leading expert on the subject of their PhD.
In severe cases they are actually the only person who ever had any interest at all in the subject of their thesis. That can mean absolutely nobody will ever pay them for what they know.
g
Her qualifications and experience shouldn’t be the point of contention. What is more pertinent is why people take science at its word.
It’s the lack of education about the differences between raw science and verified actionable data that’s the problem. It’s a very bitter pill to swallow for some when you realise how hard it is to get reliable measurements.
If someone is paying you in suitcases of cash you’re most likely going to swim in it at some point.
mickyhcorbett75
No. Absolutely wrong.
Most (95%+) citizens do not have the education to understand and self-diagnose complex scientific claims – respect is easily given to ethical & properly the educated specialists (like the cardiovascular surgeon who gave me a new heart valve).
Charlatans deliberately cloak themselves in “science-y” degrees exactly so unsophisticated readers do not question them. My question is legitimate: exactly what the hell is the “virtue signaling”, fertile young woman educated in?
The answers, so far, is “who the hell knows”.
Javert
I think we are agreeing on the same thing. It doesn’t matter what she is educated in, what matters is the quality of the output of her work. If the work is repeatible and verifiable then that’s good. If it’s just speculative science, that’s also good for the field but not for taking action.
The public needs to be educated on the difference. Sadly they believe peer review means things are correct.
Javert Chip June 27, 2017 at 9:25 pm
No decoding necessary because she is neither an atmospheric physicist or a political scientist.
Her claim-to-fame expertise is that of being a ……. heatwave expert, ….. whatever that is I wouldn’t have a clue. To wit:
Excerpted from above quoted commentary:
“ Cradling her newborn baby girl, heatwave expert Sarah Perkins Kirkpatrick admits to …”
Yes, a heat wave expert foresees more and more heat waves in the future.
Whodathunkit?
If it gets really hot, stay in the bathtub until it cools off.
She could always move to Canada. We know what to do when it gets hot. Take your clothes off and go to the beach!
Most of the electricity generated for your air conditioner is from coal. What about poor people (e.g. post-grads) who can’t afford an air conditioner?
The local McDonalds has good air conditioning…
Our local public library has good air conditioning, good quality Wi-Fi, and even a small interior food court. If you could sleep inside or out in your car without the police sending you on your way for loitering, you could literally live there.
Some people can’t even afford coal.
g
Anything to get your name in the press, I suppose.
This reminds me of a family that went on a hiking expedition in the summer around Alice Springs (in the dead centre of Australia) about 40 years ago. They had a newborn baby (about 1 week old) with them. It coped with the heat fine. The only time it complained about the temperature was when it’s mother took it into an airconditioned chemist; it started crying and would only stop when they took it outside again.
So you can see just how ignorant this specious article makes this woman look. A friend should tell her not to have any more children, in the interests of increasing the average intelligence of humankind.
Ahh… a twist on Margret Sanger… Good show ol’ chap.
That reminds me of an old Will Rogers joke.
When the Oakies headed for California, the average IQs of both states went up.
“Oakies”? Ummm, “Okies”?
Hivemind,
I thought this was going to be the story that ended with this line:
https://youtu.be/uNchssGIAME
Didn’t WUWT mull over a similar “virtue signaling” situation (young scientist mother agonizing over her new child’s future in a hellishly hot world) about 6 months ago?
So… we see ANOTHER true believer hypocrite. Scared of AGW but hey, WTH, “I’ll have a baby anyway and then use it to tell the world how scared I am to bring a baby into the world.”
Do ANY of these lefty lot live up to their beliefs? They all demand that we non-believers must but I’ve yet to see any of them act ethically.
Although, maybe there ARE some and they’ve given up computers? 😀
Just being leftist is to embrace hypocrisy. “Do as I say. Not as I do.” another one… “Socialism is for the people, not for the Socialist.” The Liberal Mind has a multitude of psychological disorders as Lyle H Rossiter Jr. MD. in his book “The Liberal Mind, The Psychological Causes of Political Madness” explains.
I think the root of their mania is over-abstraction — thinking that ideas are more important than people. It makes a lot of their rank hypocrisies make more sense.
The Conservative Mind generally believes the opposite, that people are more important than ideas.
I never heard scientists expressing how they felt about Ebola, typhoid, cancer or any of the other real, immediate and widespread threats to human life. That they now feel the need to do so about climate change signals a daftness that does their credibility no good at all.
Had to look up the author of the photo – to be sure that this wasn’t a “conveniently selected” one. Nope, by the guy’s politics, he probably used the best shot he had.
So this woman always looks like she’s drugged to the gills? I’ve only seen those eyes on people just about to tank from too much Prozac.
I always associated talking through nearly closed eyelids with lying. But I’m no expert.
I was told that eyes whose pupils float upwards and are half-mast under the upper eyelids indicate a predilection for the occult.
That look… she’s been smoking too much hopium.
To be fair, having a newborn baby, maybe she hasn’t had much sleep lately.
Or still hasn’t completely come off whatever pain killers they administered during labor.
Can’t be, she’d be hopeful then.
Must be the other stuff, despairium downers with hot flashes.
I don’t think she’s used to gong out in the scary, sunny outdoors.
Get an air conditioner, and when there is a brown/black out, have an ice box ready to help out. Or move north (I mean south in that upside-down world of OZ)… Maybe to NZ…
Australia had very little air conditioning when I grew up, in the fifties and sixties. I certainly remember the heat waves during those times. No wonder Clint Eastwood calls Little Miss climate scientist and her mates, the Pussy Generation. Now it makes you think, how did those pioneer women cope during the western expansion of the USA? They certainly didn’t curl up and die. Unlike this brainless twit.
My great-great-grandmother crossed the cholera-infested plains and mountains on the Oregon Trail in 1852 at the age of 18, while pregnant. When writing her memoirs in 1905, she recommended that all young couples should have to traverse the continent in an ox cart, since there would then be so much less divorce. Any want of enterprise, ambition or resilience in the spouse would soon become evident.
Today’s coddled academics are indeed the pussies to end all pussies. Their cluelessness is vast as all outdoors, indeed of the universe.
Love your story, Gabro. Wish my great grandparents had written their memoirs. What I know about my ancestors is through my dear mum. Interestingly, she was born in May, 1910, when there was global panic and predictions that life on Earth would be extinguished by Halley’s Comet.
I’ll second you on that. I just educated some youngsters on another site. I’m an Arizona native, born to parents from Arkansas and Mississippi. Dad worked in the heat of the day wearing cotton long johns under long sleeved tight knit shirts and cotton pants of light colors and straw hats. While my siblings and I wore tee shirts and shorts and labored under the heat complaining. As a teenager I learned why dad was smart, for someone that went to the 4th grade six years in a row. The way he dressed kept him cool like a evaporator cooler and protected him from the Sun. Where we got Sun Burned and blistered being exposed to the Sun. My younger co-workers last week in the 115 – 119 F were suffering wearing dark clothes of mixed synthetics and short sleeves, as I dressed like dad did and a wide brimmed straw hat kept cool. They would go running to the AC set at 60 F and drink ice cold water, then return to the heatwave and get blasted again. I just found a shady area and drank cool water. And like my parents did, I live in comfort in the 80 to 90 F house with an evaporator cooler in summer. By living like this, I don’t shock my body going from one extreme to another. Where my younger co-workers cannot handle being outside very long.
What’s sad is that they don’t realize what is responsible for allowing them the privileged life they now live: hydrocarbons.
I take it the young couples should undertake this trek before getting married, not after? Otherwise, it would seem like a recipe for more divorce.
Drinking ice cold water can actually make you feel warmer, because the capillaries will shrink in response as it goes through your system, restricting circulation. Kind of like squeezing the water lines in a radiator. Tepid water is best for drinking in hot weather.
If she believes what she says she believes she would not have had a baby. Therefore …..
It’s unfortunate she shares her feelings of joy about her newborn with the climate inanity.
Taking a new-born into a room full of people? Why? Part of an appeal-to-pity argument? Or mere virtue signalling?
This is part of what Jung called “psychic epidemics:”
“I am convinced that exploration of the psyche is the science of the future… This is the science we need most of all, for it is gradually becoming more and more obvious that neither famine nor earthquakes nor microbes nor carcinoma, but man himself is the greatest peril to man, just because there is no adequate defense against psychic epidemics, which cause infinitely more devastation than the greatest natural catastrophes. – (Jung 1944)
Group think trumps intelligence/critical thinking with these people
Yes, I saw this on the ABC website yesterday and just about threw the monitor out in disgust. I cannot believe the utter tripe the ABC are serving up. Total, utter rubbish – even moreso recently. Your air conditioner broke down and now you’re terrified of a heatwave? It’s embarrassing. Also, many people live North of Brisbane and they all do pretty well. The main reason there aren’t more people up there is because there is not a lot of water, but that’s about all. Yes, its hot and humid BUT IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN HOT AND HUMID. F^&* me, people are becoming softer and softer and retarded. What a closeted and moronic generation. #unaustralian
Looks like a bad case of PPCCS: Post Partum Climate Change Syndrome
Just about to move to Brisbane.
Can’t wait and thanks for the tip.
I’ll pet a Koala and a Roo for you….