Friday Funny – the first consequence of exiting the #ParisAgreement

Almost immediately after Trump announced he’d exit the Paris Climate Accord, the world went haywire. Dilbert creator, Scot Adams, was the first to notice and promptly tweeted his reaction.

Our resident cartoonist, Josh, noticed and replied:

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Keitho
Editor
June 2, 2017 4:11 am

Perfect. #Thanks Trump

Robert W Turner
Reply to  Keitho
June 2, 2017 2:33 pm

And a meme is born! Any time weather ruins an outdoor event, #Thanks Trump

Anonymous
Reply to  Robert W Turner
June 4, 2017 3:06 am

Shitty weather since yesterday; my barbecue plans for today are ruined! #ThanksTrump

Mark Hansford
June 2, 2017 4:14 am

Brilliant – laughed my socks off

Proud Skeptic
June 2, 2017 4:16 am

Where I live, in RI, The weather had been miserable for over a month. The day Trump made his announcement the sun came out again. It is still out today.

Reply to  Proud Skeptic
June 2, 2017 6:34 am

Not only did the sun come out where I live but also summer started.

ferdberple
Reply to  M Simon
June 2, 2017 7:14 am

summer started
==========
summer. that is the dangerous global warming that gore, hansen and wirth warned everyone about years ago, when they switched off the air-con for the senate hearings. what we need globally is 1816. the year without summer.
if we don’t reduce our carbon footprint, global warming will get so bad that summer will start to happen every year.

Sheri
Reply to  M Simon
June 2, 2017 8:59 am

Definate serious, dangerous warming. 60° with rain where I am. Was 85° yesterday. So yesterday was Trump’s fault and today is weather. 🙂

Mike Slay
Reply to  M Simon
June 2, 2017 12:23 pm

Actually, it really was predicted by Alan Jay Lerner and Frederick Loewe.

ferdberple
Reply to  Proud Skeptic
June 2, 2017 7:06 am

The Trump Effect. Just like the Gore Effect, but reversed. Gore says X, bet on Not X. Trump says X, bet on X.

Nylo
Reply to  Proud Skeptic
June 2, 2017 7:32 am

It’s good not to live anymore where the sun doesn’t shine 🙂

Mark T
Reply to  Nylo
June 2, 2017 7:37 am

My ass.

CCC
Reply to  Proud Skeptic
June 2, 2017 8:45 am

I can back that statement up, I’m also a RI resident

Bruce Cobb
June 2, 2017 4:16 am

Now I’m out of champagne and popcorn.
#ThanksTrump.

Steve Fraser
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 2, 2017 5:40 am

Reload!

Science or Fiction
Reply to  Steve Fraser
June 2, 2017 8:18 am

Done.

3x2
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 2, 2017 6:54 am

Can’t help you, I’m all out too …
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/environment

Rhoda R
Reply to  3x2
June 2, 2017 9:05 am

I’m not sure that states can sign onto agreements with foreign countries without approval from Dept of State. But I’m also sure that any state that agrees to cut their CO2 emissions will encourage their businesses to exit that state, thus making it easy for them to meet their reduction goals.

Reply to  3x2
June 2, 2017 9:28 am

States entering international agreements is prohibited by Article 1 section 10.1 of the Constitution.

LarryD
Reply to  3x2
June 2, 2017 2:12 pm

Mainly, it is virtue signaling.
The big cities have been driving industry away for years, anyhow. More of the same.

Reply to  3x2
June 4, 2017 5:21 am

Man, how I loathe The Guardian. It used to be called The Manchester Guardian, a source of solid unbiased news on a par with The Times. Now it’s an organ of lefty propaganda beloved of well-heeled public sector parasites. Margaret Thatcher nailed it: “The trouble with Socialism is that it eventually runs out of other people’s money.”

Frederic
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 2, 2017 2:11 pm

CO2 spewing champagne, that is.

eyesonu
June 2, 2017 4:16 am

Forget about blaming just bad weather on Trump, now we can credit ALL weather to Trump!

Desitter
Reply to  eyesonu
June 2, 2017 5:30 am

I guess that every french activist (or politician, it’s the same) will use such a “concept” “ad nauseam”.
I read a lot of comments about Trump’s decision in french “orange.fr” : a woeful bunch of bullshit.
It seems that almost eveyone here in France is unable to understand that Trump’s décision is quite sensible and is the only one which cab stop useless expenses.
IMO as a frenchie

Reply to  Desitter
June 2, 2017 6:44 am

It’s not just in France. The NYC tabloids have also jumped the shark.

Robert W Turner
Reply to  Desitter
June 2, 2017 2:38 pm

But have you walked out on the street to ask people? The bat-shit crazies only seem to exist online. Maybe they never go outside? That explains their confusion on weather and climate.

peyelut
Reply to  Desitter
June 3, 2017 10:05 am

Reminds me of a story: In airline indoctrination ground school I was seated next to a Frenchman. One day, the presenter was a very attractive young woman and I asked my seatmate if they were “all like that in France?”
His response was “Yes they are, but there is one large problem – they’re all French”.

RockyRoad
Reply to  eyesonu
June 2, 2017 6:26 am

Just the weather?? Hey, we should be able to blame all CLIMATE on President Trump.
(And Obama was satisfied in just controlling the sea level… What a minimalist.)
/sarc

David A
Reply to  eyesonu
June 2, 2017 8:15 am

At least Bush is officially off the blame hook.

Reply to  eyesonu
June 2, 2017 8:59 am

Trump is the antii-Mann.

Reply to  Robert Kernodle
June 2, 2017 9:00 am

Oops, too many “i” ‘s.

Hugs
Reply to  Robert Kernodle
June 2, 2017 1:09 pm

You had too Manny i’s.

Reply to  Robert Kernodle
June 2, 2017 4:28 pm

Too many Manns, I suggest.
Did we ever get to the bottom of his prizes for Dancing, Gymnastics, Road Safety and spelling?
Possibly amongst others . . . .
Besides Nobbles, Olympic Golds, and Lobster Leo’s Prize for the Best Chowder . . . .
Auto,
Joint Nobelist for whatever the ‘European Union’ got a cup for [I didn’t get my bit of the prize money, so far as I can remember]; whenever it was.
Might it have been always flushing the toilet after use?
Something BIG for sure, like that.
Kindergartens to have a quiet hour??
I got a Nobel prize, after all.
Auto

2hotel9
June 2, 2017 4:21 am

Trump, he is such an over achiever! There is truly nothing he can not accomplish. Hahahahahahahaha!!!!!

John
June 2, 2017 4:21 am

No “Trump effect” here. Great weather for the next 2-3 days. Maybe that IS the “Trump effect” – weather is still weather.

Bruce Cobb
June 2, 2017 4:22 am

There is no joy in Alarmville.
Mighty Paris has struck out.

Steve
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 2, 2017 4:26 am

Wasn’t Paris dragged by his ankles around the battlefield by Achilles? Looks like that is what Trump is doing.

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  Steve
June 2, 2017 5:08 am

Surely that’s cartoon material?

2hotel9
Reply to  Steve
June 2, 2017 5:17 am

Hopefully Josh is working on that image right now!

Faith
Reply to  Steve
June 2, 2017 5:45 am

Paris’s brother Hector was the one killed, Paris being unwilling to fight. When Paris did fight, he used bow and arrow, not hand to hand, which was not well regarded by his contemporaries. He did die in the Trojan war, receiving little or no help from those he had betrayed. He appears to have been a self-serving weasel for the most part.

Pizza Boy
Reply to  Steve
June 2, 2017 6:01 am

No Sir, Hector was dragged by his ankles around the battlefield by Achilles. Paris was who killed Achilles with an arrow to the heel. And all of these terrible things happened because of Helen.

Vik
Reply to  Steve
June 2, 2017 6:14 am

It was Hector who was dragged around the walls of Troy by Achilles for several days until tPriam ransomed his sons body

Richard
Reply to  Steve
June 2, 2017 6:26 am

That was Hector that Achilles dragged around the gates of Troy after slaying him in single combat, in front of his wife, parents and children. Later Paris (who eloped with Helen, causing the Trojan war) killed Achilles by shooting him in his only supposedly vulnerable spot, his ankle.

RockyRoad
Reply to  Steve
June 2, 2017 6:27 am

I think that was his heel, Richard. Hence the term “Achilles heel”.

Richard
Reply to  Steve
June 2, 2017 6:39 am

True, it was his heel. And perhaps it was well deserved, for being such a heel for the way he disrespected the slain Hector’s body in front of his family.

Steve
Reply to  Steve
June 2, 2017 6:56 am

My mistake. Sorry.

kendo2016
Reply to  Steve
June 2, 2017 10:03 am

i think that was Hector,not Paris

Richard Keen
Reply to  Steve
June 2, 2017 11:38 am

So 4000 years later, Trump is Hectoring the Paris accord?

Chimp
Reply to  Steve
June 2, 2017 12:34 pm

The death of Achilles isn’t in the Iliad. In ancient art, both Greek and Roman, he is shown wounded in the ankle, but also in the heel, foot (including sole), lower leg and thigh. His mom would have been more likely to dip him in the River Styx by the ankle than heel.
Gantz (“Early Greek Myth”, 1993) pointed out that words for “heel” in the Romance languages derive from the Latin word for ankle, “talus”, which may have caused the common (mis)conception that it is Achilles’ heel that is vulnerable.
http://www.ibrarian.net/navon/paper/Achilles__Heel__The_Death_of_Achilles_in_Ancient_.pdf
If that link doesn’t work, please search for the title key words.

Chimp
Reply to  Steve
June 2, 2017 12:54 pm

PS: The Achilles tendon connects the heel with the back of the calf muscle, so the fateful arrow could have inflicted a fatal injury anywhere in that area.

Evan Jones
Editor
Reply to  Steve
June 3, 2017 6:09 am

No, that was Hector. Paris is the one who shot Achilles in the heel.

Steve
June 2, 2017 4:24 am

It’s Friday night here, I’ve got beer and popcorn. Loving it! 🙂

Catcracking
June 2, 2017 4:24 am

I was shocked last night that Bret Baier on Fox news last night was bemoaning a 1 degree temperature rise apparently unaware of the medieval warming period or the daily temperature changes.
There was no Scientific discussion on the impact of the cost or reliability of Solar or Wind even though Trump made much of that clear in his speech. The MSM is unhinged with stupid comments and impacts

TA
Reply to  Catcracking
June 2, 2017 8:49 am

Yeah, Bret seemed a little underinformed on the subject. Some of the Fox News people have it correct and some of them don’t.
I think after Trump’s action, CAGW is going to be discussed a lot more publicly, so eveyone can get a little more educated on the subject, even clueless Fox News reporters.
Tucker Carlson proved last night that he needs to bone up on sea level rise. He let the mayor of Miami push the CAGW narrative that flooding in Miami was the result of Global Warming, and Tucker let the mayor’s statement stand, apparently because Tucker doesn’t know the real reason for the flooding in Miami. Hint: It’s not CAGW/Global Warming.

Reply to  TA
June 2, 2017 9:12 am

I watched the segment with Levine, the totally clueless mayor of Miami Beach. On the one hand Carlson did let him slide on that one, but he was after the clearer and unequivocal problem with the Paris Agreement and Levine was totally an ass about it and would not answer the question. It is sad to see such a dumb as a rock individual directing waterfront development in and around Miami.
In the meantime the issue of flooding in Miami Beach is down largely to tidal flooding caused by continued construction on former flood or tidal plains, narrowing of water channels plus subsidence due to groundwater extraction. Sea level rise as measured by tide gauges along the Florida coast is essentially unchanged and remains about 3mm per year or 12 inches every 100 years.

Chris
Reply to  TA
June 2, 2017 1:10 pm

TA, please provide a link that shows that the sea level rise in Miami is not substantially caused by AGW.

Chimp
Reply to  TA
June 2, 2017 1:14 pm

Chris,
That’s easy. There is no evidence whatsoever that AGW has substantially caused SLR anywhere on the planet.
Since CO2 took off after WWII, SLR has decelerated from its surge during the second half of the LIA and early post-LIA interval, ie since c. AD 1695 until c. 1945.

Tom Harley
Reply to  TA
June 2, 2017 11:42 pm

Bret Baier has been hanging too close to warmist Chris Wallace.

richard verney
Reply to  TA
June 3, 2017 3:42 am

<blockquote.TA, please provide a link that shows that the sea level rise in Miami is not substantially caused by AGW.
Chris
NOAA state:

The mean sea level trend is 2.39 millimeters/year with a 95% confidence interval of +/- 0.43 mm/yr based on monthly mean sea level data from 1931 to 1981 which is equivalent to a change of 0.78 feet in 100 years.

You can find the NOAA data for Miami at:
https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends_station.shtml?stnid=8723170
What is interesting is that even the mark 1 eyeball can see that the rate of sea level rise for the first data period, ie., about 1930 to about 1952, the sea level is rising at a faster rate than during the second period, ie., about 1955 to about 1982.
I do not know why there are breaks in the data nor why it runs only through to about 1982, but it is clear that just when CO2 levels started increasing, ie., the period 1955 to 1982, the rate of sea level rise actually fell. As you are no doubt aware, the IPCC only considers CO2 to be a significant driver post 1950. If CO2 was a driver one would have expected to see an increase in the rate of sea level rise, not a reduction in the rate of sea level rise.

Latitude
June 2, 2017 4:30 am

…it’s raining here today

Hugs
Reply to  Latitude
June 2, 2017 4:43 am

Solid water, that is.

Photoncounter
Reply to  Latitude
June 2, 2017 6:14 am

Don’t forget that rain is heavily contaminated with dihydrogenmonoxide, a commonly used industrial solvent with lots of negative consequences. I didn’t see anything in the Paris Accord addressing this issue…

Jeffrey Mitchell
Reply to  Photoncounter
June 2, 2017 10:02 pm

More information on Dihydrogen monoxide here:
http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html

Jeffrey Mitchell
Reply to  Photoncounter
June 2, 2017 10:06 pm

Also, if they want an Accord, they can pay some money and have Honda send them one. [meme stolen, but I can’t remember where from]

Hugs
Reply to  Photoncounter
June 3, 2017 5:11 am

Absolutely. Solid DHMO is a killer that causes huge amount of brain damage on yearly basis. Gaseous DHMO causes severe burns, which may be lethal in a blink of an eye. Liquid DHMO is the real killer though, having plenty of lethal consequences following inhaling, drinking and safety device corrosion.
Impure DHMO is an abundant chemical with lots of industrial use, so the danger may lie anywhere!

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Latitude
June 2, 2017 8:49 am

And that’s a good thing. I think people have forgotten that plants require water to grow and that water comes from rain. Or have the left liberals decided that sunny days with low humidity are the only weather they will accept and go on to claim it is a constitutional right that can be sued for.
Here in Florida we have been in a drought so rain is needed badly. But we are going to have to have a few tropical storms or a hurricane or two to get back to normal levels.

Bloke down the pub
June 2, 2017 4:42 am

I’m sure that if Donald Trump thought that by exiting the Paris accord, Michael Mann would get struck by lightning, he’d have done it on day one.

RockyRoad
Reply to  Bloke down the pub
June 2, 2017 6:29 am

I dunno–President Trump let Comey dance in the wind for several months before abruptly terminating him–justifiably so, I might add..

Reply to  RockyRoad
June 2, 2017 6:37 am

The dancing in the wind got Comey out of his office so his computer could be confiscated before a wipe.

Marque2
Reply to  RockyRoad
June 2, 2017 8:02 am

They had to wait for the right moment to fire Comey. They didn’t tell anyone and fired him away from the office. That allowed the state department to grab all of Comey’s records and documentation without it getting destroyed by Comey or his underlings. Hence the Trump “tapes” comment. He was letting Comey know they had Comey’s documents to counter anything untrue Comey might say after the firing.

MarkW
Reply to  RockyRoad
June 2, 2017 8:35 am

Comey is the guy who took the decision on whether or not to prosecute Hillary away from the career prosecutors.
He also declared that even though she broke multiple laws, she didn’t mean to so she couldn’t be prosecuted.

TA
Reply to  RockyRoad
June 2, 2017 9:00 am

“Comey is the guy who took the decision on whether or not to prosecute Hillary away from the career prosecutors.
He also declared that even though she broke multiple laws, she didn’t mean to so she couldn’t be prosecuted.”
I’m still not sure how that worked. Comey can’t legally just take over deciding the guilt or innocence in a case, that is for the Justice Department to handle.
The only way Comey could hijack the process is with the cooperation of the Justice Department. The Attorney General is, after all, the FBI Director’s boss, and can overrule him, but chose not to do so.
Hillary’s intent had nothing to do with whether she should be prosecuted or not. If she committed the crime, which she did, it doesn’t matter whether she meant to do it purposely or did it accidentally, she is still subject to prosecution. Intent is not applicable. Comey was way off base in his actions regarding Hillary.
I think the Special Counsel should be investigating all of this. Laws were broken and the guilty have temporarily gone free. The Special Counsel needs to recify this situation and punish the rampant corruption and law breaking that has gone on for at least the last eight years.

Reply to  RockyRoad
June 2, 2017 9:09 am

As they say: “ignorance of the law is no excuse.” But Killary is a member of the self styled “elite” and so above the law, willfully or ignorantly.

Michael darby
Reply to  RockyRoad
June 2, 2017 9:11 am

Laws may have been broken but the guilty have not gone free. Nobody has been found guilty, because you are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Your mistake is assuming guilt before trial.

Reply to  RockyRoad
June 2, 2017 11:29 am

Darby,
Comey logic. When intent is necessary for guilt & you are assumed innocent unless proven guilty, the only people that can be proven guilty are those that admit intent/guilt. Some with means and protection will never admit intent/guilt because they can’t be leveraged into doing so, so prosecution is a waste of time … you are free to go.
Laws were broken, but there is no guilty party?

Chris
Reply to  RockyRoad
June 2, 2017 1:15 pm

“As they say: “ignorance of the law is no excuse.” But Killary is a member of the self styled “elite” and so above the law, willfully or ignorantly.”
And Trump, who was born into a rich family, who had silver spoon education, who had help avoiding the draft – “avoiding STDs was my Vietnam” – is not an elite. Some people are born stupid.

Reply to  Chris
June 5, 2017 4:52 am

Sorry you were born that way. When the subject is “politics”, the elite is in reference to the “ruling class”. i.e. families like the Bush and Clintons. Trump has not been in politics until he ran for president.
There is a cure for your birth defect. it is called education.

Michael darby
Reply to  RockyRoad
June 2, 2017 1:38 pm

Chris, not only are some people born stupid, they prove their stupidity day after day with tweets.

DonS
June 2, 2017 4:45 am

Airline stock prices will tank. The third world bespoke clothing trade will die. Contrail numbers will diminish. Luxury hotels will suffer a sharp decline in business. The ranks of “climate scientists” will thin. American taxpayers are finally gonna get a break; with the exception of those in Pittsburgh, California, New York and other cities and states where mayors and governors have announced that they will remain loyal to the Paris Accord. Hilarious

2hotel9
Reply to  DonS
June 2, 2017 5:20 am

Allegheny County has been actively driving business and industry out for 40 years, and Bill Peduto has put that agenda on steroids in the city of Pittsburgh.

fxk
Reply to  DonS
June 2, 2017 6:21 am

Yes, cities following the Paris Accord will spend (waste) additional monies – but that was true whether the Paris Accord was made in the first place, or whether we pulled out. What is true, there will be more federal monies kept at home, and not shipped overseas. Yes, some of the efforts will continue at fed, state and local, but not dictated by Brussels and not make the US subject to the EU fiasco.
The key is now we can work independently as we see fit, and what we are willing to afford and when. We can work with REAL pollutants, rather than chasing the CO2 boogyman. We can maintain our industries, and our standard of living, yet still be a responsible member of the world.
America First is neither racist nor xenophobic; it is a term of love for its taxpayers and its citizens.

I Came I Saw I Left
June 2, 2017 4:53 am

The bald, fat peckerhead with a goatee has become a meme.

Reply to  I Came I Saw I Left
June 2, 2017 5:12 am

I afraid, as with “Sir Peters new Car”… ‘They are all like that, sir’

June 2, 2017 4:57 am

I can’t wait until Stokes and mosher stark blaming Trump for the bad weather.

Reply to  philjourdan
June 2, 2017 5:01 am

They they’ll say there’s a statistical method that they’ve tested thoroughly that indicates it’s Trump’s fault.
Then they’ll say there are several other methods that agree.
They said so.
Andrew

Reply to  philjourdan
June 2, 2017 7:11 am

That would be stupid. Obama was stupid not to treat it like a real treaty and submit it to congress. The treaty itself is stupid symbolic bullshit. I think global treaties are wrong headed and useless.
U dunce.

hunter
Reply to  Steven Mosher
June 2, 2017 11:05 am

Actually Obama set s trap by signing the Paris Accord. A judge could have made a ruling in a suit brought by some big green NGO that since it’s signed document and not rejected it can be used as the standard to measure EPA regs by. Paris is incredibly dangerous. Obama knew he could just wait on one of his corrupt judges to make it law. Heck it still may. Some corrupt judge may decide that if Trump goes against the consensus he can be stopped by a judicial ruling. They are doing exactly that on immigration.

John F. Hultquist
Reply to  Steven Mosher
June 2, 2017 12:00 pm

Obama was/is stupid.
The “agreement” was designed to push UN global dominance.
Use of “climate” was like the cover of a book that reveals nothing about what is inside.

Grant
Reply to  Steven Mosher
June 2, 2017 12:50 pm

Not stupid if your in line for a cash payment every year. Wondering who actually thought that money would be spent on green energy?

Reply to  Steven Mosher
June 2, 2017 1:02 pm

LOL! The first part of your comment is the old Mosher and finally sanity prevails. only to be broken by your second part.
Baby steps Mosh. baby steps.

Chimp
Reply to  Steven Mosher
June 2, 2017 1:05 pm

SM,
Obama didn’t submit as a treaty because he knew the Senate would reject it, to include some old-fashioned private labor union-backed Democrats voting against it.

PiperPaul
Reply to  Steven Mosher
June 2, 2017 1:21 pm

If there’s something progressives really like it’s symbolic acts, because that way they don’t have to actually do anything of substance (they usually suck at anything that requires competence anyway). Oh, wait! They also like telling other people what to do. If they can get government to *compel* others to do things… even better!
“I’m doing my part by lecturing others and raising awareness!”

pouncer
Reply to  Steven Mosher
June 2, 2017 4:49 pm

So then was Bill Clinton for failing to submit the Kyoto Treaty when he was president — and Al Gore the presiding officer of the Senate.
Stupid isn’t why that didn’t happen. Actually, the opposite. The clever politicians discerned that the representatives of the rural states would outvote the representatives of the urban/coastal states, and the treaty would be rejected.
Obama might have rammed it thru anyhow. He could have promised — “If you like your current climate, this plan will let you KEEP your current climate.” But that would have been a big lie.

Reply to  Steven Mosher
June 2, 2017 6:09 pm

“LOL! The first part of your comment is the old Mosher and finally sanity prevails. ”
I’ve been absolutely consistent since 2007 on the issue of global treaties and Mitigation.
The science is the science. GHGs warm the planet. We add GHGs. Doubling c02 will raise temps 1.5C to 4.5C
HOW we MANAGE that RISK ( 1.5 to 4.5C) is not a science question. We can do “what if’ scenarios. we can apply pre cautionary principles, we can apply worst case reasoning, we can Seize the day and screw the future.. We can try to “engineer” the future ( fat chance there )
It seems really stupid for people to waste time fighting the science when the BETTER arguments all center around policy and risk abatement.
I mean seriously, 20 years from now when it is still getting warmer, you’ll look pretty dumb arguing that C02 is not a GHG, that the records are all faked, that the Arctic ice is increasing.
You have INSIDE OF THE CONSENSUS two big uncertainties
A) how much warming (1.5-4.5C)
B) What can and should we do.
And instead on hammering in those admitted weaknesses, you clowns promote skydragon nonsense,
goddard nonsense, and Salby nonsense.
what a waste of talent. seriously.
And then when it does come to the actual debate ( on policy ) you have this baggage.. The baggage of years of claiming the science was a hoax.
Watch Pruitt. he wont answer the hoax question. WHY? because he knows that it is a LAME argument.
an argument that loses as time goes by.. So he shifts to the uncertainty argument and the policy argument.
here is a hint.. the uncertainty argument never loses.. uncertainty either narrows and you change your position or it doesnt narrow and you hold fast.
What is his policy argument? we cut c02 without treaties by shifting to NG ( Guess who made that argument before him? ) and he argues for exporting that technology ( Guess who ALSO made that argument before him )
Bottom line. you guys need to catch up, Pruitt is learning

2hotel9
Reply to  Steven Mosher
June 3, 2017 4:14 am

CO2 is not pollution, it is plant food and good for the environment.

Gabro
Reply to  Steven Mosher
June 2, 2017 6:17 pm

Steven,
There is no actual evidence that doubling CO2 raises global temperatures by 1.5 to 4.5 degrees C. That “estimated” range is based upon nothing more than two guesses from the 1970s, with an arbitrary margin of error attached.
What evidence has been gathered since then suggests that instead the range is more likely 0,0 to 2.0 degrees C, if not in fact actual cooling in some environments.
IOW, absolutely nothing to worry about. More CO2 is better, in fact.

Gabro
Reply to  Steven Mosher
June 2, 2017 6:27 pm

And you can toss out the higher of the two guesses, ie 4.0 degrees C, since it was by Jim “Venus Express” Hansen. That leaves the less outrageous guess, ie 2.0 C. Applying the margin of error factor, yields a still high but defensible range estimate of 1.5 to 2.5 degrees C per doubling.
IOW, absolutely nothing to worry about. In fact, a good thing.
So the world could have saved trillions in treasure and millions of lives, sacrificed on the altar of the false Watermelon God.

Reply to  Steven Mosher
June 2, 2017 6:37 pm

It’s an amazing accord. It was signed with a complete bypass of the American people. It does not require any country to actually fulfill any promise, and yet Juncker says it binds the US for a minimum four years.
They really really really REALLY want a shot at that cash.
To the mayors and governors declaring their jurisdiction will honor the accord, by all means cough it up and be ready to explain it when you’re up for re-election.

Mike the Morlock
Reply to  Steven Mosher
June 2, 2017 10:29 pm

Steven Mosher June 2, 2017 at 7:11 am
“I think global treaties are wrong headed and useless.”
Salt 1 & 2?
Above ground testing treaty?
Washington and London Naval Treaties (1922, 1930)?
Treaties fail when it becomes obvious detrimental to one side and is BAD PUBLIC POLICY.
You don’t make public policy as you advocate on someone’s sandwich board prophecy.
BTY it snowed in Moscow today. Kind of hard to con people with the it’ll get hot spiel, when it is snowing in both hemispheres.
“U dunce.”
michael

Carbon BIgfoot
Reply to  Steven Mosher
June 3, 2017 8:05 am

Steven I suspect you didn’t attend ICCC-12 where we put an “End to the Scare” and climate sensitivity is a negative not 1.5-4.5 BS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h51IP3Z_A9A

Dr Dave
Reply to  philjourdan
June 2, 2017 7:50 am

They’ll have to first stop sucking their thumbs and get out of the fetal position…

philincalifornia
Reply to  philjourdan
June 2, 2017 9:10 pm

4.5C
Somebody buy the English major a cheap calculator and show him how to divide by 2. What a moron.

Bruce Cobb
June 2, 2017 5:01 am

Democrats are unhinged about this. Trump might as well be Satan himself as far as they are concerned. It is hilarious, watching the foam and spittle come from their mouths. Note to self: buy more popcorn.

MarkW
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 2, 2017 6:21 am

Democrats are unhinged on principle. It’s just that they’ve stopped trying to hide it since November.

Reply to  MarkW
June 2, 2017 1:36 pm

“just trying to hide it since November” I don’t think so Mark…Cummings boycotted the inauguration claiming that Trump “is not our legitimate President” and now is is on the Congressional committee “investigating Russian collusion” intending to find Maxine Waters “evidence” for her call to impeach. The only Dem that treated Trump with some respect was Obama and he was busy making sure that the spy apparatus would leak like a garden hose information that they were illegally gathering on Trump!

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 2, 2017 6:21 am

Trump might as well be Satan himself

So, business as usual for the Democrats?

Tom
Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
June 2, 2017 7:42 am

Not that different from the way the way Repubs view Obama or Clinton.

JohnKnight
Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
June 2, 2017 2:53 pm

“Not that different from the way the way Repubs view Obama or Clinton.”
A perfect SJW style dodge, it seems to me . . It’s sort of the way many view Hitler or Stalin or Mao too, but that don’t make them equally malevolent or destructive as everyone else by default. It’s possible that Mr. Obama and Ms. Clinton really are corrupt A-holes, and rightly seen as such, regardless of what Mr. Trump is portrayed as by anyone.
Make your case against Mr. Trump, or for Mr. Obama/Ms. Clinton, I say, but playing a ditsy game of *All blamed are equally guilty* is psychopathic, to me.

Wharfplank
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 2, 2017 7:04 am

Maybe the Dems would welcome Lucifer with open arms, Saul Alinsky did.

TA
Reply to  Wharfplank
June 2, 2017 9:02 am

Good point, Wharf!

Mike the Morlock
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
June 2, 2017 7:42 am

Bruce Cobb June 2, 2017 at 5:01 am
We use one of old fashion types with the oil in the steel poping pot .
It was a worthy investment. Also order high grade poping corn. We just got a gal. of the Amish popcorn. Perfect for occasions like this.
Also flavored salts to pour on it, and cheddar topping, one must do things properly of course
michael 🙂

June 2, 2017 5:02 am

Covfefe the Paris accord!
A bondage we ill can afford
CO2 keeps us free
Food for you, food for me.
The temperature sham sows discord. https://lenbilen.com/2017/06/01/covfefe-the-paris-accord-a-limerick/

sherlock1
June 2, 2017 5:06 am

Good on ya – Trump – at last an HONEST politician..!
For the avoidance of doubt – here’s how the Paris Accord works.
You are a country – let’s call you Enviroland. Before you send your 100-strong delegation by private jet to Paris, you are asked by the organizers what you intend to do to reduce ’emissions’.
You say you will ‘aim’ to reduce emissions by 20% by 2030.
Your delegates attend the Paris Climate Summit.
At the end, the leader of your delegation signs a declaration that you, Enviroland, will do your best to keep global temperature increases below 2C.
Loads of whooping, applause and backslapping.
Delegation returns to Enviroland on your private jet.
You report smugly to your population that Enviroland has signed up to the Paris Accord.
Carry on as normal.

RockyRoad
Reply to  sherlock1
June 2, 2017 6:33 am

President Trump’s honesty (and ready willingness to call a spade a spade) is what crooked politicians hate about him. Remember how Hillary had nothing good to say about Trump (and talked about little else)?

PiperPaul
Reply to  RockyRoad
June 2, 2017 1:43 pm

Come on now – she did say she liked his family…

Marque2
Reply to  sherlock1
June 2, 2017 8:11 am

More sinister, European companies want to move factories to China to cut costs. They support Paris, because it gives them an excuse to shutdown factories in Europe – and get paid by the European governments for doing so. Then when they just rebuild, or partner with China, which has no limits, they don’t have to feel guilty, plus they get around firing laws, etc. And you wonder why business in Europe has been so supportive. And this is even if you don’t create eco power. In the US it is the biggest government parasites that have screened the loudest. Musk, completely depends on that 30% Solar tax break to make money. And Tesla, even with at least a billion in government grants still loses money.

Chimp
Reply to  Marque2
June 2, 2017 1:51 pm

Good points about European industry, or deindustrialization.
Governments like it when more people depend upon them for survival.

CheshireRed
June 2, 2017 5:07 am

First step delivered. Now go after the data manipulators. THAT really will be fun.

Desitter
Reply to  CheshireRed
June 2, 2017 5:32 am

And alarmist religion will be over

NorwegianSceptic
June 2, 2017 5:17 am

The northern part of Norway may get 40 cm of snow this weekend (in JUNE!). I Guess they’re not too convinced by the alarmists up there……

Andrew
Reply to  NorwegianSceptic
June 2, 2017 5:29 am

No the Norwegians are the worst of the worst alarmists. They have drunk the Kool Aid. (Having waited 6 months for it to thaw out of course.)

NorwegianSceptic
Reply to  Andrew
June 2, 2017 6:13 am

Not all of us, I assure you! My colleagues and I have stocked up on popcorn and beer (and Aquavit….) 🙂

Steve Fraser
Reply to  NorwegianSceptic
June 2, 2017 5:45 am

There has been a persistent upper-level low between there and Greenland for 10 days. Its about to divert, and shovel cold air down that,way. Gasp! Weather!

arthur4563
June 2, 2017 5:21 am

The responses by the extreme global warmists have provided a portraiture of how ignorant they are , about most everything. What’s astounding is that a supposedly competent scientist like De Grasse is making dopey statements. But, then, De Grasse is a media scientist, apparently, and a token Black one at that.

Reply to  arthur4563
June 2, 2017 9:16 am

Hawking was the one that dissapointed me the most. For some reason I expected better from him.

fretslider
June 2, 2017 5:40 am

Gosh! The BBC and the Guardian have taken the news really badly
The kommenters’ heads are exploding
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/02/trump-shut-out-world-paris-deal-climate-isolationist-us

HotScot
Reply to  fretslider
June 2, 2017 6:16 am

No idea if this will work, but here goes.
From, guess who? No less than the BBC, a symbolic picture of climate activists, complete with begging bowl.comment image

RockyRoad
Reply to  HotScot
June 2, 2017 6:35 am

Yes, President Trump did “wake up to the climate crisis” and dismissed it with aplomb. That the alarmists are alarmed about it isn’t alarming, is it? (It’s what they do.)

Reply to  HotScot
June 2, 2017 6:43 am

If that kid wants a clean planet some on might want to tell her that a LOT of dirt will need to be removed.

BBould
June 2, 2017 5:43 am

What a wonderful cartoon! Thanks Josh!

Pablo an ex Pat
June 2, 2017 5:46 am

Nice work Donald !

June 2, 2017 5:46 am

What is funny is truth has triumphed due to Trump and his base over the powers of untruthfulness and darkness, despite the overwhelming msm fake reporting on the subject of climate change over the last couple of decades. MAGA

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