Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach
Bill Nye the not-really-Science Guy was on Tucker Carlson tonight. Tucker tried time after time to get Nye to say how much of the change was due to humans … and time after time, Nye refused to say what his opinion was.
So Tucker got him to agree that the climate has always been changing.
Then, in response to the question as to “what the climate would be like if humans weren’t involved right now”, Bill Nye said (according to my own transcription):
NYE: “The climate would be like it was in 1750. And the economics would be that you could not grow wine-worthy grapes in Britain as you can today because the climate is changing. The use of pesticides in the Midwest would not be increasing because the pests are showing up sooner and staying around longer. The forests in Wyoming would not be overwhelmed by pine bark beetles as it is because of climate change. That’s how the world would be different if it were not for humans”.
Oh, my goodness. Isn’t that touching? Nye refuses to say how much of the change in temperature is due to humans … but at the same time he claims that if there weren’t humans, that the climate would have stopped changing in 1750. Without humans, he says, we would have a climate which was forever the same …
… and people actually believe this guy? Tucker Carlson was scathing:
CARLSON: You’re not even a scientist, you’re an engineer … So much of this you don’t know, you pretend that you know, and you gotta believe people who ask you questions.
Another escapade in the world of pseudo-science. Anyhow, after writing this I found a YouTube video of the interview—check it out, it’s good for a laugh.
Regards to all,
w.
PS—When you comment PLEASE QUOTE THE EXACT WORDS YOU ARE DISCUSSING, so we can all be clear about your subject.
Discover more from Watts Up With That?
Subscribe to get the latest posts sent to your email.
I don’t like “You’re not even a scientist, you’re an engineer ” dis .
Often engineers have a more immediate hands on quantitative interactions with the phenomena .
Bill Nye is willfully stupid not because he’s an engineer but in spite of it .
Well said Bob –
I once suggested (tongue in cheek) to an acquaintance that engineers should run the world and she replied, “Engineers don’t really know anything – they just know how to make things work.” I guess I am still missing the insult.
Further to the point, engineers can much more easily spot something technical that really does not have a chance of working. Superior BS detectors.
Sounds like mankind has saved itself from starvation but may have to move up from the beach a few feet according to Nye. Sounds like a fair trade to me.
Bill Nye thinks it is a bad thing that they can grow grapes in Britain, which they could incidentally during Roman times.
Too bad farming in Greenland wasn’t mentioned.
Mr Carlson’s show is like progressive flypaper.
They just can’t resist the urge to go there, but they get stuck every time.
That was truly sad. My oh my Bull Nye!
Title “Bill Nye loses the plot.”
Years ago Johnny Weissmuller played Tarzan in several jungle movies, then was a victim of dementia?
One evening in the nursing home, he leaped from a stairwell to swing on a chandelier, from which he fell to the floor, hardly injured.
The newspaper headline was “Tarzan loses his grip. ”
Younger readers should know of an adhesive in a tube named “Tarzan’s Grip – the stuff that sticks”, which became corrupted by common use “Grab a grip of Tarzan’s Tube, the stick that stuffs.”
Parallel thoughts to Bill Nye.
Geoff.
Bill Nye knows nothing of Climate Change Science. A Limerick.
The Roman Northamptonshire wine
was good, not excessively fine.
So it just goes to show
that Bill Nye does not know
of Climate Change past, that’s my line.
During the Roman warm period wine grapes were grown almost up to the
Hadrian Wall, The the dark ages came and grapes no longer ripened in
England. During the Medieval Warm Period there was at least one cheese
farm on Greenland “Gaarden under sanden”, abandoned as the glaciers
regrew until the “Little Ice Age”. We are still recovering from the
little ice age. 2016 may have been a warm year, but most years since the
ice age were warmer. See Chart. https://lenbilen.com/2017/02/28/bill-nye-knows-nothing-of-climate-change-science-a-limerick/
I don’t believe he was suggesting that the climate would stop changing, but rather than it would have remained cooler. Or maybe the climate would have continued to change, such as by getting cooler. There is of course no scientific basis for this fancy. The IPCC asserts that human impacts on climate are only realistically measurable after 1950. So, like most no thing cranks, he pulled this claim out of his nether regions of course.
“”Nye blurted out “100 percent” followed by: “If that’s the number you want.””
This clearly demonstrates the current practice in climate science.
Tucker Carlson did what he does beautifully, he allowed a fool to open his mouth and remove all doubt.
I look forward to his next,”interviewee”.
As for the failure of Tucker to ask concise and cutting “Climate Science” questions… Not necessary.
The subject is too big and too convoluted to tackle on TV, being a political quasi-religious ideology, far better to allow Bill Nye to show the viewers by his own words and actions.
The end is nye,these are the end times for the Cult of Calamitous Climate.
Either they be ridiculed evermore or they produce a more coherent spokesman to answer what Bill could not.
Ball is in their court, well played Tucker Carlson.
I doubt that a “coherent spokesman” for the CAGW ruse will ever emerge. Anyone with any kind of legitimate scientific background knows that there are too many extraneous variables and too many unanswered questions to ever attempt to become such a spokesman, let alone debate the theory. Sure, people like Mann and Gore have tried, but they avoid debate like the plague, because they have nothing but the theory and computer models to fall back upon.
Carry on Mr. Carlson, I’m sure our paths will cross again
Reminds me of a some novel…
PS: That was actually the last line spoken by Nye in the interview.
No kidding.
Nye never had the plot, so he couldn’t lose it.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/445338/tucker-carlson-bill-nye-debate-climate-change
“And the economics would be that you could not grow wine-worthy grapes in Britain as you can today because the climate is changing.”
Not true – and we have the evidence (not required, I know, in climate ‘science’) to prove it.
Grape vines and vineyards were recorded in the Doomsday Book in Southern England in the 12th Century. Archaeological evidence suggest the Romans introduced grape vines to Britannica during the Roman occupation.
So growing grapes for wine and wine making in England has been going on for at least a thousand years ‘despite’ climate change, as a matter of record… possibly longer.
Also GM has produced vines that can grow in cooler climates.
https://youtu.be/aPx6Xd8Uoqc
This is all nonsense about CO2. It has no effect on the atmosphere and I prove it with a simple demo-experiment you can buy on Amazon.com for $0.99 The facts are very simple:
CO2 is a “trace gas” in air and is insignificant by definition. It would have to be increased by a factor of 2500 to be considered “significant” or “notable.” To give it the great power claimed is a crime against physical science.
CO2 absorbs 1/7th as much IR, heat energy, from sunlight per molecule as water vapor which has 188 times as many molecules capturing 1200 times as much heat producing 99.9% of all “global warming.” CO2 does only 0.1% of it. Pushing panic about any effect CO2 could have is clearly a fraud.
There is no “greenhouse effect” in an atmosphere. A greenhouse has a solid, clear cover trapping heat physically. The atmosphere does not trap heat as gas molecules cannot form surfaces to work as greenhouses that admit and retain energy depending on sun angle. Gases do not form surfaces as their molecules are not in contact. Only liquids and solids have molecules in contact.
The Medieval Warming from 800 AD to 1300 AD Michael Mann erased for his “hockey stick” was several Fahrenheit degrees warmer than anything “global warmers” fear. It was 500 years of world peace and abundance, the longest ever.
Vostock Ice Core data analysis show CO2 rises followed temperature by 800 years 19 times in 450,000 years. Therefore temperature change is cause and CO2 change is effect. This alone refutes the anthropogenic global warming hypothesis.
Methane is called “a greenhouse gas 20 to 500 times more potent than CO2,” by Heidi Cullen and Jim Hansen, but it is not per the energy absorption chart at the American Meteorological Society. It has an absorption profile very similar to nitrogen which is classified “transparent” to IR, heat waves and is only present to 18 ppm. “Vegans” blame methane in cow flatulence for global warming in their war against meat consumption.
Carbon combustion generates 80% of our energy. Control and taxing of carbon would give the elected ruling class more power and money than anything since the Magna Carta of 1215 AD.
Most scientists and science educators work for tax supported institutions. They are eager to help government tax more money for them and enjoy being seen as “saving the planet.”
Read the whole story in “Vapor Tiger” at Amazon.com, Kindle $2.99 including a free Kindle reading program for your computer. We have an inexpensive demo-experiment “CO2 Is Innocent,” 99 cents at Amazon.com, showing CO2 has no effect on IR heat absorption up to 10,000 ppm and then it cools the atmosphere by driving water vapor out as it is seven times the IR absorber/heater as CO2.
Google “Two Minute Conservative” for more.