The Atlantic: Is it OK to enjoy Warm Winter Weather?


Guest essay by Eric Worrall

The Atlantic is worried that a few pleasantly warm days at the end of winter may be prompting “anxiety and unease” amongst the climate obsessed.

Is It Okay to Enjoy the Warm Winters of Climate Change?

The weather is nice, but it reminds us of the problems to come.


From D.C. to Denver, from Charlotte to Chicago, towns and cities across the United States have posted strings of record-breaking summery days in what is normally the final month of winter. Wednesday was only the third time since 1880 that Green Bay, Wisconsin, cracked 60 degrees Fahrenheit in February. Ice on the Great Lakes covers only a quarter of its normal surface area. And parts of Oklahoma and Texas have both already been scorched by 90-degree afternoons.

All in all, the United States has already set more than 2,800 new record high temperatures this month. It has only set 27 record lows.

Most people handle this weather as the gift it is: an opportunity to get outside, run or bike or play catch, and get an early jump on the spring. But for the two-thirds of Americans who are at least fairly worried about global warming, the weather can also prompt anxiety and unease. As one woman told the Chicago Tribune“It’s scary, that’s my first thing. Because in all my life I’ve never seen a February this warm.” Or as one viral tweet put it:

“While we’re hearing over and over again that climate change is something we should fear, most people are experiencing it in a way that’s really quite comfortable,” says Megan Mullin, a political scientist at Duke University and one of the authors of the study. “What I take away from this is really a lesson for scientists. My Twitter stream is filled with these maps, over and over again, showing departures from historically average temperatures. In my mind, [that kind of messaging] is not going to motivate the public to treat this as a top priority.

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The abstract of the study referenced by the article;

Recent improvement and projected worsening of weather in the United States

Patrick J. Egan & Megan Mullin

As climate change unfolds, weather systems in the United States have been shifting in patterns that vary across regions and seasons. Climate science research typically assesses these changes by examining individual weather indicators, such as temperature or precipitation, in isolation, and averaging their values across the spatial surface. As a result, little is known about population exposure to changes in weather and how people experience and evaluate these changes considered together. Here we show that in the United States from 1974 to 2013, the weather conditions experienced by the vast majority of the population improved. Using previous research on how weather affects local population growth to develop an index of people’s weather preferences, we find that 80% of Americans live in counties that are experiencing more pleasant weather than they did four decades ago. Virtually all Americans are now experiencing the much milder winters that they typically prefer, and these mild winters have not been offset by markedly more uncomfortable summers or other negative changes. Climate change models predict that this trend is temporary, however, because US summers will eventually warm more than winters. Under a scenario in which greenhouse gas emissions proceed at an unabated rate (Representative Concentration Pathway 8.5), we estimate that 88% of the US public will experience weather at the end of the century that is less preferable than weather in the recent past. Our results have implications for the public’s understanding of the climate change problem, which is shaped in part by experiences with local weather. Whereas weather patterns in recent decades have served as a poor source of motivation for Americans to demand a policy response to climate change, public concern may rise once people’s everyday experiences of climate change effects start to become less pleasant.

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Can you imagine these people lecturing their kids, telling them that instead of playing in the sun, they should feel worried about the end of the world? No wonder they’re all permanently depressed.

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Walter Sobchak
February 23, 2017 5:57 pm

A warmer world is a happier and healthier world.

Reply to  Walter Sobchak
February 24, 2017 6:13 am

A cold winter is just weather, but a warm month is proof of global warming.

Reply to  Walter Sobchak
February 24, 2017 6:47 am

The Atlantic is a far-left rant rag that’s trying desperately to keep the Liberal Narrative afloat in the age of Trump for the benefit of the permanently-disaffected chattering class who read it, mostly in the dentist’s office. Subtract the dentist and doctor waiting rooms, I wonder how many subscribers they’d really have?
The upper middle class wannabes need something to wring their hands about for the sake of virtue-signalling to their fellow social climbers. Shuddering over the absurd CAGW scenario is one of their fashionable methods of feeding their collective bummer trip through the world.

Reply to  Walter Sobchak
February 24, 2017 8:15 am

Sinner! heretic! Infidel! UNBELIEVERS! Repent!
For the days of heat are upon US! Don’t look at
those Bermudas! those Bikinis! happy people enjoying
the sunshine! Bring the Prophe…er, Profit to your
benighted happy plane and he will bring blessed cold and snow!
(as he did to Park City and the Sundance fetivius.!!

February 23, 2017 6:01 pm

And the west coast of Canada is having the coldest snowiest winter that I can remember.
And I grew up in the 60s and 70s. Not a lot of talk about global warming lately. I’m sure that it will start up again in a couple of months.

William Astley
Reply to  Mick
February 23, 2017 8:13 pm

Warm west coast winters may be a distant memory.
Ocean surface temperature in the Atlantic cooled 10C to 15C during past Heinrich events in the 40 to 60 degree latitude region. The cooling in the Pacific Ocean and South Ocean was less but still significant.
The issue is not just cold but amount of snowfall. West coast regions that have 20 to 30 inches of rain in the winter will have to deal with 16 feet to 23 feet of snow if ocean surface temperatures cool.

Reply to  Mick
February 23, 2017 10:44 pm

…I hear “global warming” is a seasonal thing and it happens mostly in the summertime.

Reply to  RockyRoad
February 24, 2017 2:12 am

ahhh… but its not global..
I can tell you that when it gets warmer up there, it gets colder down here.
A scientific marvel that needs $10 billion for me to study this incredible phenominumnum…

Patrick MJD
Reply to  RockyRoad
February 24, 2017 2:49 am

“AndyG55 February 24, 2017 at 2:12 am
I can tell you that when it gets warmer up there, it gets colder down here.”
That’s why we have thermal undies.

Reply to  RockyRoad
February 24, 2017 6:14 am

Regardless of the year, it also tends to happen whenever the sun is over the horizon.
However as some keep telling us, correlation is not causation.

Lee L
Reply to  Mick
February 24, 2017 6:09 am

Hey Mick. I grew up in Vancouver in the 50s and I remember icicles hanging from the gutters, sledding down Little Mountan and one year where we ice skated on Lost Lagoon in Stanley Park. Beaver Lake in the same park, a smaller and shallower pond, froze maybe once every seven years. It froze this winter too.
Speaking of West coast, some people I talk to are surprised to learn that …
Berkeley Earth reports that calculated since 1990, Vancouver, BC (birthplace of Greenpeace) has a temperature trend of minus 1.24 C per century while Vancouver, Wa has a trend of minus 1.62 C per century.
From the same source:
Province of British Columbia .. minus .04 C per century
Washington State ………………. minus .54 C per century
Oregon …………………………….. minus .33 C per century
So much for talk of the skyrocketing temps on those parts of the Left Coast as minus does mean it cooled right? ( or does it mean that aliasing cooled the fluctuating data?).

Reply to  Mick
February 24, 2017 8:35 am

In Victoria, buds on the ornamental plums (pink like cherry trees but bloom earlier) are 3-4 weeks later than last year.
The fountain at my apartment complex froze almost enough to cut off the flow to the strong central plume 3 times this winter, which hasn’t happened before in the 12 years I’ve been here. One of those times, the ice was thick enough for an adult to stand on.
Snow was the least of it.

February 23, 2017 6:03 pm

Winters last hurrah. It’s interesting that when it’s warm, it’s climate change and warmer winters are constant now. Lost in this was just a couple of years ago the Great Lakes were totally frozen over. Or that Russia and Europe have been expecting a brutal winter…

February 23, 2017 6:09 pm

No. It’s not okay.

February 23, 2017 6:16 pm

We’ve been in the 60’s for a few weeks now. I’d be lying if I said it didn’t freak me out. But I also can’t fathom how one or two years would cause winters to “disappear,” and I’m reminded of what Dr. Easterbrook said: freak weather can happen any time and is not an indicator of climate.
Note: I am a climate activist currently questioning/leaning skeptic. Hit me with all of your wisdom!

M Courtney
Reply to  Allison
February 24, 2017 2:46 am

Several points.
1) Warmer weather is actually beneficial. We can see that. It has to get very hot before things get problematic. And then, we cope with winter sea surges already. It may well be cheaper to adapt rather than try and prevent. We can’t know that action on climate change is doing the right thing for now.
2) As we have no idea how much of the warming is natural it may be that the effect of CO2 is saturated and any warming we have is just the natural reversal for the Little Ice Age in the Victorian era. Most CO2 emissions are post-WW2 but the rate of warming is the same before and after WW2 – since the mid-Victorian era. So prevention may be impossible. We can’t know doing anything is right for now.
3) The cost of altering the world’s energy sup[ply is huge. If it were cheaper to use unreliable renewables we would be unable to stop people using then. But it’s a lot more expensive – hence intervention from the State. The argument being that the market looks short-term but in the inevitable long-term the cost of emissions is great. But we can’t know that. we can know that resources spent now are resources not used on other things (clean water, disease prevention, education of women – and men, etc.) Yet adaptation in the future, when we actually know what needs to be done, will be paid for by the people then. And they will be far richer than we are now. The economy keeps growing and technology keeps finding cheaper ways of doing things (intensive growth). So worrying about not doing enough now is worrying about not taking enough resources from the poor and giving them to the rich. That’s right-wing, regressive Anti-Robin-Hood policies that anyone with a sense of justice should oppose. We can know that doing anything is wrong for now.
Of course, there is good and bad in every policy choice. But this a good argument as to why, on balance, action on climate change is the wrong policy for today.

Reply to  M Courtney
February 24, 2017 4:38 am

shifting to a new source of energy does involve a lot of investment, yes…
but as you do it, the cost comes down.
somewhere like India or the Gulf where there is a lot of sunlight the latest solar power installations are now seeing really low costs per watt… offshore wind gets cheaper every year.
plenty of places are already well into the shift to renewables and in the plaes where there is a lot of wind or sun or little local fossil fuel 9or it has to be shipped in) we are hitting the tipping point of ‘cheaper and impossible not to use’. Australia is next on that list…

Reply to  Griff
February 25, 2017 12:58 pm

Making stuff again, skanky?
South Australia for one is just palnning on building new ultrasupercritical coal plant for cheap, reliable power – that’s if they can afford to after all the lawsuits for losses and damages caused by failures due to the unreliability of the ‘Unreliables’, of course.
Have you apologised to Dr. Crockford for attempting to damage her professional credentials by lyina about them yet?

Monna Manhas
Reply to  M Courtney
February 24, 2017 6:09 am

Griff, South Australia is one of those places that is “well into the shift to renewables”. They have had 5 power blackouts in the last 6 months, 2 of them major ones. During a heat wave earlier this month, the Australian Energy Market Regulator imposed rolling blackouts across Adelaide and much of South Australia. Electricity prices spiked to $13,440/mWh, while the total demand was about 3000 MWh. At 6 pm on Feb 9, wind power was supplying less than 100 MWh (about 7% of its capacity). What were you saying about the “tipping point of ‘cheaper and impossible not to use'”?
h/t to Jo Nova

Reply to  M Courtney
February 24, 2017 6:18 am

Monna, Griff has already explained it. Those blackouts were the fault of unreasonable consumers demanding more power than the system was able to provide.
They should be grateful that they have power for even part of the day instead of whining that they don’t have it 24/7 like they used to.

Reply to  M Courtney
February 24, 2017 6:19 am

“But as you do it, the cost comes down” is a widely held belief of renewable advocates. Skeptics wonder whether renewables can ever overcome renewable’s intermittent and diffuse flaws to the point that renewables can move beyond appropriate for niche applications to actually powering the grid. It may be technologically feasible but the grid integration costs will be huge – so huge that I believe that we cannot ever integrate renewables to the point where replacing fossil fuels is not much more expensive.

Reply to  M Courtney
February 24, 2017 9:20 am

shifting to a new source of energy does involve a lot of investment
Investment or taxes? Because there is a huge difference.
For most people an investment is when you take your surplus money and put it to work making more money.
However, for governments, investment is when they take tax money from average people and put it to work losing money.
Because that is what carbon taxes and green subsidies represent. Taking tax money from people and spending it on propositions that are otherwise losing money. Because if the propositions were not losing money they would not need help from the government.
And at the same time, because the average person is paying increased taxes, that tax money is not longer available to them to invest and make money.
So for the average person it is a lose-lose proposition. Money that they could use to make money is taken from them by the government and spend it on things that lose money.

Reply to  M Courtney
February 24, 2017 9:28 am

actually it is probably lose-lose-lose, because as the government spends tax money on losing propositions they will need to further increase taxes to pay for the tax revenue they would have otherwise have gained had the tax money instead been spent of profitable propositions.
because unlike people, companies only pay taxes when they make a profit. people however still have to pay taxes, no matter how much of a loss their household is running at.
so, for example. A company makes $1000, but has to spend $1100 on rent to make the money, they pay no tax. An individual makes $1000, but has to spend $1100 on rent to live in the same city as where they work, rather than out in the country where rent is only $100. The individual should pay no tax, because everything they are making is spent on the rent differential, but instead the individual pays taxes on the full $1000 and their cost of rent is ignored.

Reply to  M Courtney
February 24, 2017 9:31 am

One of the posters in the 2nd fear of nuclear article made the claim that our standard of living is too high and needs to be brought down.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Allison
February 24, 2017 2:55 am

Allison, some will call it “freaky weather” …… but a better name for the causing of 80F temp on February 23rd would be “freaky” winter Jet Stream position.
The shaded area on this map depicts the Jet Stream ”winds” sucking that “hot” air up out of the southwest and pushing it toward the northeast, ….. to wit:

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
February 24, 2017 3:08 am

OOPS, I should have pointed out the shaded area at the top-left corner of the above map, That looks to me like a little, per se, Polar Vortex that’s pushing “cold” Arctic air down across Alaska and British Columbia.

Brook HURD
Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
February 24, 2017 6:47 am

The map also shows the atmospheric river which has been causing much higher than normal rain and snowfall in California.

Nigel S
Reply to  Allison
February 24, 2017 5:18 am

Advice to Allison
Beware the Hippogriff!
and while you’re at it …
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!

Steve Fraser
Reply to  Nigel S
February 24, 2017 1:32 pm

Vorpal swords to the ready!

Reply to  Allison
February 24, 2017 5:43 am

Google “Climate Change Deciphered”…
(More proof awaiting publication)

Reply to  Allison
February 24, 2017 6:22 am

Allison, I have a geology degree. To me, a few years is not climate; a few decades is not “climate”. I might be persuaded to regard a hundred thousand years as “climate”, but I’d really prefer a million.
And on that scale, Earth is experiencing an abnormally cold “snap”. Earth is normally a nice warm planet, too warm for permanent ice even at the poles; about 20 degF warmer than the current average.
Sooner or later, regardless of humans, Earth will return to “normal”. Most likely (imo) “later” — like, after another glaciation, or two, or more. And we humans will not do well when the advancing ice pushes us into the tropics — though maybe by then we can be “pushed” to our lunar or Martian colonies. That would be awesome.

John F. Hultquist
Reply to  Allison
February 24, 2017 7:10 am

Check out the charts for Yakima WA. Temps for January and February. Next 7 days also to be cold.
The main wisdom is that CO2 was heading lower for a long time and when it gets too low plants will not grow. Thus Earth as we know it would be no more. For whatever reasons — mostly Nature adjusting with a little help from carbon based fuels — CO2 in the atmosphere is trending up. That is a good thing.
When the concentration gets to about 600/800 ppm we can all relax, knowing plants have the main building block to keep everything on Earth alive.
Any temperature change from current CO2 to 600 ppm CO2 will be sufficiently small we won’t notice. Climates (pl.) of the World will remain unchanged.

Reply to  Allison
February 24, 2017 8:59 am

Consider this:
CO2 levels on earth reached in excess of 3000ppm in the past and there was NO runaway global warming. Why, now, at a mere 400ppm, barely above the level to support life on this planet is everyone afraid we are all going to fry due to runaway global warming? Also, forget ocean acidification, the oceans were still basic at 3000ppm CO2 as well.
Now relax, enjoy the weather.

James at 48
Reply to  Allison
February 24, 2017 10:53 am

This winter’s warmth is limited to the Eastern half of the US. Out West we are having a heck of a nasty winter.

Reply to  Allison
February 27, 2017 10:54 am

Allison, I’m in the same boat, a couple months ahead of you. I was planning on signing up for 350’s climate leadership training and did some research into the subject myself and the wheels came off the bus. I read Jim Steele’s Landscapes and Cycles and J. Dedgrick Robinson’s Global Warming, both of which were useful starting points. Also try the Freeman Dyson interviews on youtube. I’d try to get a hand on the geological history of the world and then the history of the global warming movement (recent piece about that in the New Yorker). Everything sort of falls into place from there, at least in my experience. Good luck.

February 23, 2017 6:22 pm

Absolutely not climate worriers.
Stay in.
Enjoy nothing.
More for me.

Reply to  rebelronin
February 23, 2017 10:45 pm long as it thins out the ski slope crowds.

February 23, 2017 6:26 pm

So I am 30 years old and live in Massachusetts. Ever since last February when it was super warm up here I started to read more about climate change/global warming and I have had a very stressful last 12 months. Just constantly in a state of…not so much freaking out but lethargy? maybe? I am trying to find a silver lining but I am struggling to and I am also struggling to ignore climate change. Why do I care about what happens after I’m dead? Why is it affecting my life now? I want to better myself and go to the gym but even then I am like well what is the point? I have no idea why I am spewing all this info out now and here but as a laymen and certainly not a scientist. Is it dumb to be worried about this like I have been?
Is there some silver lining I am missing that should “calm” me down? Is the last few years of “unprecedented record hot years!” just hype and alarmism?

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Crabby
February 24, 2017 1:27 am

“Crabby February 23, 2017 at 6:26 pm
Is there some silver lining I am missing that should “calm” me down? Is the last few years of “unprecedented record hot years!” just hype and alarmism?”
Yup, just hype, totally man-made hype at that.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Crabby
February 24, 2017 3:35 am

@ Crabby

Is there some silver lining I am missing that should “calm” me down?

“Yes”, Crabby, you sure are missing a “silver lining” …….. for your checkbook,
Its called a $2 million Federal Grant to study CAGW climate change.

old white guy
Reply to  Crabby
February 24, 2017 5:07 am

warm weather is better, it should make you fell better. crops grow in warm weather not snowy weather. sit on the deck, crack a beer and put your feet up.

Reply to  Crabby
February 24, 2017 6:22 am

Crabby, there are a lot of silver linings. The green movement and media thrive on selling fear, which is why you might be feeling worried. They work very hard at that.
It turns out that many of the things they want you to worry about aren’t a problem. Despite increased CO2, hurricanes and cyclones haven’t increased; they have slightly decreased. The polar bears are doing fine, despite a decade of lower sea ice levels in the Arctic. The Antarctic unti recently was packing on a lot of ice over a period of 30 years. Levels of drought are stable or declining. As for the “record hot years” there are a lot of concerns about data adjustments and how those numbers are made.The extra warmth hasn’t made hot days hotter, but nights and winters warmer–something you would also get with urban heat island effects contaminating the data or changes in cloud cover. The dramatic sea level predictions haven’t happened either. They are increasing more or less linearly, as they have been doing for hundreds of years. South sea islands (the ones they worried about) have gained area. And best of all, plants have become more productive because every leaf and twig you see needs CO2 to develop and grow. That has increased crop yields all over the world to feed a growing population. Plants have become more drought tolerant in areas of marginal growth. And they have become more salt tolerant as well. The increases in productivity extend to the oceans, with phytoplankton doing better with more CO2. I can’t imagine how more plant productivity can be a bad thing.
The kinds of predictions you might worry about are very unlikely to happen. And anything we might try to do is unlikely to have much impact, even if we spend trillions trying. Do some keyword searches on this site and learn more. Try “temperature adjustments”, sea level, sea ice or anything you are particularly concerned about.

gary turner
Reply to  Kira
February 24, 2017 11:35 am

” I can’t imagine how more plant productivity can be a bad thing.”
One word: Triffids
Triffids are an existential threat to mankind, yet people worry over inconsequentials like global warming. Where is the money to study on how to eliminate the real danger? Fund triffid research! Now!

Reply to  Kira
February 24, 2017 2:30 pm

gary turner,
Thanks for not mentioning your doctorate in triffid research, and the need for multi-hundred-million grants for said research!
Mods – SARC!
I know gary is not one of the scientists who prostitute themselves for grant monies.
I bet one or two folk reading could hazard a guess at chaps and chapesses who could, perhaps, meet that description.
In some folks’ opinion.
Auto, who loves lawyers.

Reply to  Crabby
February 24, 2017 6:36 am

The point is that you and others who feel like you’ve described should be clinically evaluated for depression. That’s the underlying elephant in the room. Not uncommon in the college-age crowd who are finding out that the Reality they’ll be going to work in is a little different from the one their teachers and parents promised. No life’s NOT fair, and spending it whining about all the “injustice” isn’t going to move that needle very much.
The CO2 theory which has held much of the developed world hostage for the past 30 years has now, on the basis of actual observations as opposed to computer game-playing, been debunked. Time to move on. Like you, I swallowed the horseshit and believed I was committing a Crime Against Nature every time I turned the key in my car or the heat kicked on in my house. When I started to READ, I was very relieved to discover the truth. The historic climate record, which clearly shows we have been both very much warmer and very much colder in the past, long before human activity could have contributed, is quite reassuring.
Get treated for your depression–it’s a beautiful world out there whatever the season, you should feel able to enjoy it without obsessing over the illusion of control of things well out of any human hands.

Reply to  Crabby
February 24, 2017 7:18 am

Doesn’t look like there were a lot of constructive responses, but I think what might be of interest is two main points: a) warming isn’t so bad, and b) we’re not really sure just how much warming there’s been due to CO2.
Regarding point “a”, it should be noted that instead of turning the entire globe into blistering desert of unbridled heat, a global trend in increasing AVERAGE temperatures is accomplished, as far as I can tell, by a reduction in the extreme colds. This mild winter could be considered an example. (Note, I’m not attributing the current warm Feb temps to anything specific. I’m just stating that the effect of the warm winter months will necessarily adjust the average temp upwards.) So, instead of simply having an extension of the Sahara over the face of the globe, what we’re more likely to get, is a lot more Florida.
As far as point “b”, the theory that one variable (in this case, CO2), amongst the many, many variables affecting the climate, could singularly cause a temp increase, is mathematically ignorant, scientifically illiterate, and empirically inaccurate. A multivariate non-linear system, such as the climate, does not produce a linear response from a linear change to a single variable. That’s not how it works mathematically. Scientifically, what we can see is that the effects of CO2, though interesting to note, are more than compensated by other dominating feedback mechanisms, both on paper, and in the real world. Really, one only needs to consider the fact that the ocean, being as it is hundreds of times more significant that the atmosphere in terms of mass, climate affect, etc, is much more likely to be the climate driver than the thin film of atmospheric gases clinging loosely to the surface of our globe. The ocean’s the dog…the atmosphere’s the tail. Sure, changes in the composition of atmospheric gases will have some level of impact, but it’s in the margins. That’s the science of it. And finally, empirically speaking, we do not observe the predicted effects of a CO2-driven climate change. This has been extensively documented through empirical observations. See, for example, this post and the linked paper describing the empirical, observational evidence that exists in the real world:
So, cheer up. The world’s not ending. By almost every measurable standard, the earth is a better place than it was even one hundred years ago. Humans, for all our faults, aren’t unilaterally destroying the planet, but rather, gradually learning how harness it, use it and maintain it all at the same time.
Hope this helps.

Alan McIntire
Reply to  Crabby
February 24, 2017 7:42 am

I tried to learn a little about the “greenhouse effect” by surfing the web. I found the late John Daly’s site to be especially informative.

Reply to  Crabby
February 24, 2017 9:59 am

“Ever since the Industrial Revolution took off in the 18th century, vast quantities of fossil fuels have been used to power the economy and deliver unprecedented affluence to huge numbers of people.”
We have wealth and affluence to deal with change. That was not so true a century or two ago. Imagine vast parts of the U.S. without an electrical grid.

Frederick Michael
Reply to  Crabby
February 24, 2017 10:45 am

Check the seed catalogs; you may have gained a climate zone. If you’re a gardener, that should cheer you up.

James at 48
Reply to  Crabby
February 24, 2017 10:54 am

OK. How about this. We have 40 feet of snow at Mammoth Mountain.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Crabby
February 24, 2017 9:30 pm

I think “Crabby” and “Allison” are either the same person, or form the same group, trolling.

Reply to  Crabby
February 25, 2017 1:00 pm

This may help to reassure you:

Global environmental change is rapidly altering the dynamics of terrestrial vegetation, with consequences for the functioning of the Earth system and provision of ecosystem services1, 2. Yet how global vegetation is responding to the changing environment is not well established. Here we use three long-term satellite leaf area index (LAI) records and ten global ecosystem models to investigate four key drivers of LAI trends during 1982–2009. We show a persistent and widespread increase of growing season integrated LAI (greening) over 25% to 50% of the global vegetated area, whereas less than 4% of the globe shows decreasing LAI (browning). Factorial simulations with multiple global ecosystem models suggest that CO2 fertilization effects explain 70% of the observed greening trend, followed by nitrogen deposition (9%), climate change (8%) and land cover change (LCC) (4%). CO2 fertilization effects explain most of the greening trends in the tropics, whereas climate change resulted in greening of the high latitudes and the Tibetan Plateau. LCC contributed most to the regional greening observed in southeast China and the eastern United States. The regional effects of unexplained factors suggest that the next generation of ecosystem models will need to explore the impacts of forest demography, differences in regional management intensities for cropland and pastures, and other emerging productivity constraints such as phosphorus availability.

Richard M
February 23, 2017 6:27 pm

The effect of more CO2 is to produce warmer nights and winters along with cooler days and summers. And, this appears to be what the data is showing when corrected for natural cycles. In other words, it is good for the vast majority of life.

Reply to  Richard M
February 23, 2017 9:59 pm

which is exactly why the unverifiable Karl et al paper was a frawd.

They know that the effects of warming are not the same on day and night, yet use nocturnal marine air temperatures NMAT to “correct” daytime SST data.

Reply to  Richard M
February 24, 2017 9:34 am

the main effect of CO2 is to even out the temperature all over the earth. this is most evident on Venus, where daytime and nighttime temperatures are almost identical, even though day and night on Venus last 116 earth days.
In contrast, if Earth rotated at the same speed as Venus, the oceans would likely boil on the daylight side and freeze on the nighttime side.

February 23, 2017 6:31 pm

Weather phobias abound.

February 23, 2017 6:31 pm

This is hardly the first time we have had mild winters over the past few decades. And let us not forget that Europe and a lot of the US had brutal weather and lots of snow too this year! Didn’t a major, Named Storm, just clobber NYC and points north? Phooey, if you have nice weather right now (like I do) just enjoy it and stop looking for the catch, the catastrophe, the end of the world that was supposed to happen a few years ago.

Reply to  pameladragon
February 23, 2017 9:09 pm

Every silver lining has a cloud. Now we know where the snowflakes come from. Even a beautiful day isn’t a “safe space”.

February 23, 2017 6:32 pm

So I am 30 years old and live in Massachusetts. Ever since last February when it was super warm up here I started to read more about climate change/global warming and I have had a very stressful last 12 months. Just constantly in a state of…not so much freaking out but lethargy? maybe? I am trying to find a silver lining but I am struggling to and I am also struggling to ignore climate change. Why do I care about what happens after I’m dead? Why is it affecting my life now? I want to better myself and go to the gym but even then I am like well what is the point? I have no idea why I am spewing all this info out now and here but as a laymen and certainly not a scientist. Is it dumb to be worried about this like I have been?
Is there some silver lining I am missing that should “calm” me down? Is the last few years of “unprecedented record hot years!” just hype and alarmism?

M Courtney
Reply to  Crabby654
February 24, 2017 2:52 am

How hot does it have to be before it becomes a problem?
So far it’s been beneficial.
And why are you sure it’s not natural? The IPCC can’t determine why is natural, after all. And they can’t model it either.
So relax and enjoy the sunshine. And focus on the problems for today.
Our ancestors who fought WW2 were not foolish enough to ignore totalitarianisms and worry about the weather today. Why not worry about poverty today and let the grandchildren worry about the weather they face?
Remember, even the worst scare stories about climate change were solved by the Dutch in the Middle Ages, using the technology they had then.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Crabby654
February 24, 2017 4:54 am

Old saying:
“God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, Courage to change the things I can, And wisdom to know the difference. .”
Now add this to the mix:
“Life is short and then you die”
So, Crabby654, stop worrying and do your best to enjoy the short time you have here. There are do overs.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Tom in Florida
February 24, 2017 4:55 am

There are NO do overs.

Reply to  Tom in Florida
February 24, 2017 6:21 am

I am currently trying to renegotiate that part of my contract.

Reply to  Tom in Florida
February 24, 2017 6:22 am

Tom, unless you believe in re-incarnation.

Alan McIntire
Reply to  Crabby654
February 24, 2017 7:44 am

check out this article

Reply to  Crabby654
February 24, 2017 9:19 am

I also live in Massachusetts. My yardstick for memory is the Joe Val Bluegrass Festival, every Presidents’ Day Weekend in February. This year, it was balmy, temps in the 40s and 50s. Two years ago a blizzard stranded some trying to get home, and kept some from attending. Three or four years ago it was such bitter cold (c. 5º F) that walking from the distant parking lots was torture.
This week it’s gotten into the 60ºs. We had 15″ of snow on the ground from two weeks before, but now it’s rapidly melting. A few winters ago we had so much snow, from January storms, that plowing the driveway wasn’t enough; we had to have a front-end loader come in to remove snow.
It’s all weather. Twenty thousand years ago Boston was covered by a mile of ice. It like likely happen again, maybe sooner than we would like. There is no empirical evidence that CO2 from fossil-fuel burning causes any measurable increase in either local or ‘global’ temperatures.
Enjoy the unexpected warm SW winds. Turn off the TV, get out for a walk in the woods, and listen to the birds.
/Mr Lynn

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Crabby654
February 24, 2017 9:34 pm

Reposting under a slightly different name. crabby?

February 23, 2017 6:34 pm

I find it hard to believe that someone would try and take this great weather and try to scare people with it.
Give it up folks, your failed scam has no traction anymore with those of us with more than two brain cells to rub together.

Reply to  nigelf
February 24, 2017 6:42 am

The Weather Channel has elevated the weather scare story to an art form all it’s own! They can parlay an ordinary rainy day into a State of Emergency, and if today’s weather’s not scary enough, they play endless footage of past hurricanes, tornadoes, and floods. They do it because FEAR STOPS EYEBALLS and eyeballs sell advertising. This is what you get when most of our cultural “content” is now produced by people who’ve never worked outside, never gotten dirty, never raised their own food or been in contact with “nature” outside of a manicured urban park.

Gunga Din
Reply to  Goldrider
February 24, 2017 3:45 pm

I’ve noticed that TWC has been putting a graphic lately of “Potential Record Highs”. Lots of red dots this morning. Maybe they do but I’ve never noticed them saying the next how of those were a bust.

Kalifornia Kook
February 23, 2017 6:47 pm

We should never enjoy this beautiful planet. When God created man, he had no idea the horrors he was unleashing on his blue jewel. Wait… God is omniscient, so that can’t be. In fact, everything is going according to plan.
Ah – fortunately, I do not believe in God, so I don’t believe he put us here. Must have been some alien. If that doesn’t work, then maybe we are indigenous to the planet, and just part of the system. We are either derived of this planet, or not. If so, then the planet is ours. We don’t have to share. T-Rex did not share. He was fine until a big meteor hit us. If you think that was Gaia crying for help, go back to the first paragraph please.
Enjoy it. Enjoy everything that is thrown at us! I love snow, I love warm summer days spent on an inner tube in the Colorado River. That is the way it is supposed to be. Don’t waste, but don’t force an undue penance on yourself – or me.

Reply to  Kalifornia Kook
February 23, 2017 10:51 pm

…or you crawled out from under a rock!
Well, not you, specifically, but your ancestors a million generations back, but how far back makes no difference.
And since the chemicals in the human body are worth $15 or so, that should humble a lot of people (since it takes more than $15 to convert them into separate, salable products)…
…especially non-believers.

Reply to  Kalifornia Kook
February 24, 2017 9:39 am

fortunately, I do not believe in God, so I don’t believe he put us here
you have it backwards. evolution moves towards perfection, with many missteps along the way. not just on earth, but across the universe. at the end of time perfection will be achieved and God will be born. God didn’t create the universe. The universe exists to create God. However, I expect we can all agree that Al Gore is living proof that human beings are a misstep.

Jeff L
February 23, 2017 6:48 pm

It hasn’t been this warm of a February since 1954 …. but we had hardly added any CO2 to the atmosphere. How could that be??
Maybe the this is related to CO2 or “climate change”
JB – if you are reading -thanks for the post on WB site showing how warm Feb 1954 was … maybe you can elaborate

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Jeff L
February 24, 2017 3:55 am
Jeff L
February 23, 2017 6:50 pm

This is really funny … people actually enjoy warmer weather (surprise, surprise) . Talk about an uphill battle … lets try do something to try to make the weather / climate colder. Not going to be many takers on this.

February 23, 2017 6:52 pm

Here in Oz we have media bleating incessantly about 40+C days and bushfires. I mean, who ever heard of 40+C and bushfires in Oz before? It’s this wild weather, I tell you!
Meanwhile, a complete silence about our cyclone drought. We have had one minor cyclone (not sure if it hit land) so far, and summer is nearly over. Our children won’t know what cyclones are!

Patrick Peake
Reply to  Jer0me
February 23, 2017 9:04 pm

And Western Oz has been having rain and days as cold as 17C. So on average Oz has had a pleasant homogenised 30 odd degrees.

Johann Wundersamer
February 23, 2017 6:57 pm

So soll es auch sein.
That’s how it should be.

Reply to  Johann Wundersamer
February 23, 2017 7:13 pm

Could this be related to to the cold not pouring down so far from the Arctic?

Reply to  Catcracking
February 23, 2017 7:17 pm

Sorry need to click on the image to updat dramatic decline N of 80 degrees.

Mark - Helsinki
Reply to  Catcracking
February 23, 2017 9:02 pm

same reason why greenland pilling on mass, weather, winds.

Stephen Singer
February 23, 2017 7:00 pm

I noticed they picked the most extreme and UNLIKELY pathway, 8.5, for climate change for their study. I’ve noticed in many studies we’ve seen on this site about climate change the same bias to the most unlikely pathway.
GET REAL climate change researchers!!!!

Michael Jankowski
February 23, 2017 7:03 pm

Are these people idiots, nutjobs, or both?

Reply to  Michael Jankowski
February 23, 2017 7:22 pm

No, just Liberals. ARG!

Reply to  Stephen Greene
February 24, 2017 2:14 am

ummm.. I’m sure you meant to type…
YES, they are liberals,,,, arghhhh !!!

Reply to  Stephen Greene
February 24, 2017 2:40 pm

Or, perhaps, piggies with two trotters, at least in the trough.
Or watermelons, Citrullus, seeking power through taxes – and the elimination of over ninety percent of living human beings.
Auto, who didn’t trust Khrushchev, let alone the ‘cuddly’ Putin . . .

Michael Jankowski
February 23, 2017 7:04 pm

There are places that stay cold year-around. These morons should move.

Steve Case
February 23, 2017 7:13 pm

It got to 70 deg F here in Milwaukee yesterday. If it weren’t for the 0.8 deg C increase in world temp since 1850 we would have gotten to only 68 deg F or so. For this I’m supposed to change my life style?

Nigel in Santa Barbara
Reply to  Steve Case
February 23, 2017 9:30 pm


Reply to  Steve Case
February 24, 2017 5:46 am

No, just fork over most of your earnings to pay the warmistas to protect you.

Reply to  Steve Case
February 24, 2017 6:07 am

It’s out of the abundance of caution that you must fork it over and be warned not to fact check the liberal messaging of wealth redistribution for the good of the Party. How else could we bail out the Chicago pension systems without faithful consistency of the message mixed with periodic over reach methods like Waxman Markey bills?

February 23, 2017 7:16 pm

Chilly Phoenix called. They want some of their heat back.

Richard G
Reply to  BallBounces
February 23, 2017 9:58 pm

There are frost warnings for So Cal for Friday morning. Someone stole their warmth.

Stephen Singer
February 23, 2017 7:16 pm

RCP(Representative Concentration Pathway Definition
AR5 global warming increase (°C) projections[5] 2046-2065 2081-2100
Scenario Mean and Mean and
likely range likely range
RCP2.6 1.0 (0.4 to 1.6) 1.0 (0.3 to 1.7)
RCP4.5 1.4 (0.9 to 2.0) 1.8 (1.1 to 2.6)
RCP6.0 1.3 (0.8 to 1.8) 2.2 (1.4 to 3.1)
RCP8.5 2.0 (1.4 to 2.6) 3.7 (2.6 to 4.8)

February 23, 2017 7:17 pm

It has been the ultimate in propaganda.
Just imagine the scene at the end of the war in which someone predicts that a pseudoscience hoax could be launched that would eventually convince the entire world that it was getting warmer, when in fact it has been getting colder since the termination of the third Reich. Bernays and Goebbels would have understood.

February 23, 2017 7:18 pm

“…we estimate that 88% of the US public will experience weather at the end of the century that is less preferable than weather in the recent past.”
That means that after 80 years, 12% won’t even notice that the weather has gotten worse. If over 10% of the public doesn’t notice a world-wide catastrophe, it can’t be very catastrophic, can it? The “climate obsessed” are so panicked by what MIGHT happen 80 years from now that they can’t enjoy good weather today. Someone needs to teach them the meaning of Carpe diem.
I think these climate worriers have a bigger problem to worry about than climate change. It’s called mental illness. If these hypochondriacs didn’t have climate change to obsess about, they would simply find something else. Before climate change came along, they did find other things to worry about, from acid rain and DDT to nuclear winter and the China syndrome. I guess I should be grateful that climate change has distracted them from many other potential problems, except that they are determined to make us pay trillions to help them feel better about it. The fact is, nothing will make them feel better, no matter how much we spend. They don’t want to feel better. That would destroy their victim status. What they really want is for the rest of us to be as miserable as they are.

David Chappell
Reply to  Louis
February 24, 2017 2:44 am

“…That means that after 80 years, 12% won’t even notice that the weather has gotten worse.”
probaly a lot more than 12% because they will, like me, be dead by then.

Stanley Baer
Reply to  Louis
February 24, 2017 5:35 am

So true. It’s in their character structure. They want turmoil around all the time. If energy were truly cheap and available and people were happy and content, their heads would explode.

Not Chicken Little
February 23, 2017 7:25 pm

I see someone already said it, but these people are insane. Or maybe just borderline psychotic, or as we used to say, “Thet boy jest ain’t right in the haid”.

Reply to  Not Chicken Little
February 23, 2017 7:31 pm

I was just about to write something similar. It seems like we’re dealing with a form of psychotic breaks or something, brought on by decades of fear-mongering and/or conditioning. Weird.

February 23, 2017 7:32 pm

The authors of this study are, to be charitable, historically illiterate. Additionally they seem unaware of the difference between “climate” and “weather”.
A light winter like this is “weather”. Not “climate”.
But the academics know how to shake the magic science grant tree by genuflecting to the climate apocalypse, so they are imminent scientists, it would seem.

Not Chicken Little
Reply to  hunter
February 23, 2017 7:46 pm

But certainly not eminent or immanent.

February 23, 2017 7:34 pm

I know anecdotal evidence is always dismissed out of hand, but having grown up in the Midwest, in the Corn Belt, I can assure anyone who reads this that there have been winters with warm, sunny days and a Chinook in January or February that was a welcome relief from snow, and winters when the confounded snow and cold were more annoying than some climate geek’s bad breath.
This winter, lovely warm days in February after a beastly cold end of December; it’s been so nice the birds are ignoring my food offerings. Last winter, I stayed up all night in late February to shovel snow off my front steps until 5AM, because I didn’t want to have to dig out for the umpteenth time, and the birds thronged my feeding station. I have pictures and everything, and I make a note of the weather readings (temp, humidity, WC, etc.) several times a day, but I’m not a scientist, so it doesn’t count. I don’t get grants to do it, either, so I don’t have to justify my existence in a world of hoohaa panic attacks over NOTHING.
Someone please let me know if I have to sacrifice a goat cheese and some wine to Shu, the Egyptian god of the Weather/Atmosphere, okay?
Oh, yeah – if the problem is excess CO2 showing up, it would help a lot if the panicky climate fear freaks would just zip their mouths shut. That would cut their carbon load by about 6 billion annual cubic tonnes of carbon dioxide. The air would smell a lot cleaner, too.

Reply to  Sara
February 24, 2017 2:49 pm

I suggest that you sacrifice the goat cheese, but sent me the wine. It will be sacrificed, I assure you!
Yesterday, we has Storm Doris. A rather nasty 12 hours, causing one death, about four serious/life threatening injuries, and seriously disrupted trains. It is February.

February 23, 2017 7:46 pm

This is all so silly. Our human lifespans are like the blink of an eye compared to the Earth’s 4 billion year history. What can we possibly deduce about the climate from such a tiny and meaningless sample?

Rhoda R
February 23, 2017 7:49 pm

Weather is lovely and so is the power bill.

Johann Wundersamer
February 23, 2017 7:58 pm

no kidding.
So you can sit on the ferry on chicago in the winter sun doing breakfast withcomment image

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  Johann Wundersamer
February 23, 2017 10:18 pm

Now you’re talking!

February 23, 2017 8:01 pm

One wonders how much natural variation in weather it will take for people to understand all is normal. Or maybe they already do understand.

Reply to  markl
February 23, 2017 8:11 pm


John Robertson
February 23, 2017 8:10 pm

This has to be the psychosis of the city dweller.
No one but a creature of the urban sprawl could avoid the weather so reliably , flitting from heated building,bus,car or train in the winter and air conditioned boxes all summer.
Without our current population distribution would the Climate Hysteria even be possible?

Reply to  John Robertson
February 23, 2017 8:13 pm

“This has to be the psychosis of the city dweller.” Excellent observation!

Dave in Canmore
Reply to  John Robertson
February 24, 2017 6:37 am

John Robertson I’ve thought this constantly during this climate nonsense. The disconnect between researchers and true believers and the actual environment leaves them with so many misconceptions of how nature operates. They all suffer from thinking nature is fragile and delicate and that man is the center of all things. A perfect backdrop of misinformation to superimpose their confirmation bias.

Johann Wundersamer
February 23, 2017 8:10 pm
February 23, 2017 8:13 pm

No wonder they’re all permanently depressed.

If I might …
“No wonder they’re all permanently depressing

Reply to  Manfred
February 23, 2017 10:58 pm

…I find a strange sense of satisfaction in their depression. By contrast, I’m doing just fine!
Reply: #allschadenfreudematters ~ctm

February 23, 2017 8:18 pm

Dumb. In the Midwest we had record cold and record ice extents just a few years ago. Also, a one degree difference is imperceptible amidst the normal 100 degree annual variance.

February 23, 2017 8:50 pm

These nice warm days in the last month of winter terrify me. No, not because I fear being outside in nice weather. No, not because I fear it is just a sign of the impending doom to be caused by climate change. It is because I fear it will lead to even more intolerable rhetoric that the global warmers will spew because of the nice weather. We recently almost broke a temperature record here – a record that was set in 1915 or so – over 100 years ago. I bet the citizenry and press of that day weren’t worried about a few nice days in February. They just relished in the pleasant weather near the end of winter – like we should!

Reply to  PJ
February 23, 2017 9:59 pm

And 1915 didn’t have the same UHI effect.

Mark - Helsinki
February 23, 2017 8:52 pm

This first 3rd of this piece is full of lies and nonsense. 2/3rd of Americans fairly worried about global warming? utter rubbish, maybe they mean 2/3rd of Holthaus’ neighbourhood have been depressed by Eric with patent falsehoods
Record cold records have smashed record warms since 2010, by thousands more records, but lets not let the truth get in the way of a homogenised lie eh

Reply to  Mark - Helsinki
February 24, 2017 6:28 am

They got the 2/3rds from the same place they got the 97%.

Leon Brozyna
February 23, 2017 8:56 pm

Now let’s see … here on Dec 15 where the average high temp was 36°F, the actual high was only 16°F, or twenty degrees below average; lately here, at the end of February, we’ve been experiencing temps twenty degrees ABOVE average (min-fifties). Now, which would I prefer … gee … that’s a tough one.
Now, for all those critters wringing their hands over climate change, try taking a walk with temps in the teens, then try it with them in the fifties, and try saying with a straight face that you prefer the teens.
Of course, this year it seems that all our snow has gone west to California. Enjoy it while you can … I’m afraid that next year out snow will be back … with a vengeance.

keith bryer
February 23, 2017 9:37 pm

There bis a word for this: Millenarianism. Its a collective madness that comes around every 1000 years. It is exclusively judeo Christian disease. Like the flu it morphs each time it hits. Affects intellectuals each time.

Non Nomen
Reply to  keith bryer
February 23, 2017 10:57 pm

Affects intellectuals each time.

I wonder why they are not extinct by now. Adaptation?

February 23, 2017 9:53 pm

It’s perfectly okay to enjoy the warmth. Global Warming will melt ice, but this notion of the tropics bursting into flames is complete hogwash. Even Al Gore got this point right in his Inconvenient Lies film. The tropics will be barely affected by Global Warming. Most of the “heat” goes to melting the ice.
In the mid-60s, I lived in the DC area and experienced an entire week in February with temps in the 80s. Trees starting sprouting green and then another snow slammed it all shut. That’s called “weather.” It happens.
And since we live in an ongoing Ice Age, warmth is a good thing.

Leonard Lane
February 23, 2017 10:11 pm

An intellectual is a person who thinks I’m, so so smart!
But so many average people work and live and enjoy life without thinking about the intellectuals at all. That is, until they come up with the next scheme to live off the taxpayers.
DDT, Alar & apples, ozone holes, climate turning cold we will all die, nuclear winter, Global warming,… And, the taxpayers dread the next scheme to unfold; because they know their taxes will always go up to pay for those who are so so smart.

Johann Wundersamer
February 23, 2017 10:18 pm

Al Gores al Jazeera still spinning lies:
about european colonisation of Afrika:
The christian kingdom of Alans and Vandals brought civilization to northafrica, their auxiliary numid troops were bound into this developing civilization.
An ideological agressiv islam overturned that early civilization that could have been a first blueprint for development in northafrica.
The Arabs were the first to do slave raids into black africa to fill harems and do domestic work.
It’s laughable that till today that narrative is held upright and cries for ‘reparations’.

Reply to  Johann Wundersamer
February 23, 2017 11:33 pm

You will find that Justinian the Great sent his general Belisarius to bring North Africa back within Byzantine (Greek) Roman rule.
Imperial control scarcely reached beyond the old Vandal kingdom, however, and the Moorish tribes of the interior proved unwilling to accept imperial rule and soon rose up in rebellion. The new province was shaken by the wars with the Moors and military rebellions, and it was not until 548 that peace was restored and Roman government firmly established.
I doubt that Gore blimey has even heard of Procopius, Justinian’s biographer, let alone read him.

Steve Case
February 23, 2017 10:27 pm

Claiming that warmer weather will be a disaster, is selling a refrigerator to an eskimo times ten. But it’s been done and in spades.

Non Nomen
February 23, 2017 10:52 pm

Mankind hasn’t realized yet that the weather changes incessantly as well as the climate does. Overworried fearmongering pseudo-scientists enjoy heating up the atmosphere, at least verbally. But I am a spoilsport: warmer is better. No reason to worry. Period.

February 23, 2017 10:56 pm

Taint anywhere near over. We can get snow and cold clear into May. And we’re getting payback tonight and tomorrow with a blizzard. Oh – and just think of all the CO2 that wasn’t emitted because we didn’t use as much fuel for heat.

Darrell Demick (home)
February 23, 2017 10:59 pm

Had a chat with a very educated individual this afternoon about CO2, global warming, the whole gambit. He was of the very clear opinion that. “if 97% of the scientists say that we are doing damage, then we must be doing so.” Believe me, I am attempting to pass as much information as possible through this individual as possible, and allow this individual to formulate an opinion based on all of the information. And personally, I am okay if they chose to believe that we are doing damage. This individual is very educated and if this individual decides that damage is being done, I will respect the opinion of this individual.
I will not agree, but I will respect.
Enough preamble, the message that I am attempting to portray is that mainstream media are painting a picture, and irrespective of your personal opinion on this picture, this is what is being disseminated to the general population and it is an overwhelmingly powerful message! Therefore yes, it comes as no surprise to me that a very large percentage of the population will have angst over ANY unusual “weather” (note: “weather” is over a matter of days/weeks/months; “climate” is over centuries/millennia/millions of years – BUT YOU KNOW THAT).
Up here in the Great White North, some areas of the province of Alberta hit record highs a few days ago, barely surpassing temperatures of 100 years ago. MESSAGE TO THE UNBELIEVERS: the weather was THE SAME AS NOW, 100 years ago!
Heck, I had to shovel snow this morning whereas last year at this time, I was taking my motorcycle out of storage for an early start to the season. My angst is opposite of the majority, I want warmer weather NOW, so I can get out and enjoy life on two wheels.

Reply to  Darrell Demick (home)
February 24, 2017 5:37 am

“if 97% of the scientists say that we are doing damage, then we must be doing so.”
Therefore, since 97% of the scientists (presumably “climate scientists” in this discussion) have not said that we are doing “damage”, then we must not be.
Assuming your friend is “very educated” and reasonably intelligent, he should know that there is no 97% agreement that we are doing “damage”.

Darrell Demick (home)
Reply to  JohnWho
February 24, 2017 10:18 pm

It is my opinion that there are a lot of well educated people who truly believe in what mainstream media are publishing on a daily basis. That plus they do not dig into the large body of work that has been done to refute the CAGW nonsense.
I was on the fence for a very long time – hey, if all of the mainstream media are saying it is so ….
It wasn’t until I dug into the information on the Carboniferous period, found the infamous 600 million year plot of CO2 concentration and temperature, saw a video about how Canada is responsible for the eventual drowning of the Marshall Islands, and my blood has been boiling ever since. Did a lot of digging into this topic and am trying to persuade people away from The Dark Side.

Johann Wundersamer
February 23, 2017 11:01 pm
will build super corals so in 40 years al Gores ‘scientists’ will repair the reefs. Nobody told him when to run. For environmental help.

February 23, 2017 11:35 pm

Don’t you mean algoreezza?

February 24, 2017 12:20 am

The government was worried about unsusual winter warmth in January 1662, at the height of the Little Ice Age. Just to show, short term climate quirks are not at all unsusual:
15 Jan 1662
“… it is a fast day ordered by the Parliament, to pray for more seasonable weather; it having hitherto been summer weather, that it is, both as to warmth and every other thing, just as if it were the middle of May or June, which do threaten a plague …”
In contrast, on 1st Jan 1667:
“Lay long, being a bitter, cold, frosty day, the frost being now grown old, and the Thames covered with ice. “

February 24, 2017 12:42 am

All the studies done with RCP8.5 can be trashed, the world’s energy system doesn’t have the means to deliver the fossil fuels they assume will be burned. The continued use of RCP8.5 and similar pathways and their representation as “Business as usual” borders on scientific fraud.

Peta from Cumbria, now Newark
February 24, 2017 1:13 am

feel worried about the end of the world? No wonder they’re all permanently depressed.

Its a pig to visualise but, I think we’ve got that the wrong way round – Oh the joys of feedback systems and in this case, positive or self-reinforcing feedback.
They are depressed in the sense that a big part of their cognitive processing has been switched off/disabled, Its not like classic depression when you’re sad about divorce, poor health, death of a spouse or the like. Its a chemical depression exactly like alcohol does, especially to folks driving cars. airplanes or machinery.
Of course, alcohol (seems to) clear the system fairly quickly, but does it? No matter that.
The depression here is brought on by eating sugar in all its forms, from dextrose, sucrose, fructose and not least glucose as obtained from digesting processed (cooked) starch.
This would clear also like the alcohol but we insist on eating ‘3 square meals per day’ All of them based around sugar. We are *never* clear of the stuff.
A ,little understood part of any depression, but what it actually is, is the loss of the person’s self-confidence. And of course, alcohol *appears* to do the exact opposite – long term it does not,
Self confidence is the ability to think and act quickly, especially to new or rapidly changing situations.
Now you see what’s happening, depressed people do not like ‘change’ – in its broadest sense. They cannot handle it exactly because it requires some sort of response from them, it is something to learn and the switching off of their cognitions has quite effectively reverted them to children. They hate learning.
You want ‘children’?
See what Karl did, publishing that BS he did then immediately retiring.
Just a childish prank of running up someone’s driveway, ringing the doorbell then running away to hide. Pure childishness from a supposed educated man with a lifetime of work and experience behind him.
More childishness is the new faze in the UK of naming weather systems – children give inanimate things names. And we see it all the time in the debating tactics of (especially) alarmists.
And so it is with what is perceived to be a change in the weather, it is a change in ‘something’ that they cannot figure a way through it and haven’t the mental energy to do so either.
So it frightens them.
They also want to pass-the-buck -pure childishness yet again. It takes guts (self confidence) to admit a mistake.
Hence they are alarmed.
Now, in steps all this fancy new technology (that is going to save us all ‘in the future’ according to warmists and skeptics alike) and the tech is used to assemble spread/disseminate and invariably expand upon this alarm.
See the positive feedback?
What a mess

Reply to  Peta from Cumbria, now Newark
February 24, 2017 6:20 am

The UK just started naming storms and thing? Gee whiz, Pete, the weather services here in the US have been naming snowstorms and thunderstorms for about 10 years now. They’ve had this ridiculous and desperate need to ID everything instead of just saying ‘It’s a thunderstorm’.
I think they named the February 2011 blizzard, too. That one shut down Chicago’s Lake Shore Drive northbound, because a bus broke down and blocked traffic, leaving everyone behind it stranded in gale force winds coming off Lake Michigan. It was supposed to be about 2 inches of snow, and turned out to be 20 inches instead. I’ve never seen worse forecasting, EVER.
I was so glad I was retired and didn’t have to put up with that, although finding 4.5 feet (1.36M) of snow drifted up against my front door was annoying until one of my neighbors dug me out. I have pictures. ALWAYS, ALWAYS ALWAYS get pictures.

George Lawson
February 24, 2017 1:21 am

“Wednesday was only the third time since 1880 that Green Bay, Wisconsin, cracked 60 degrees Fahrenheit in February”
So no need to worry, these temperatures are not a record, they’ve reached these levels a couple of times in the last 137 years!

Reply to  George Lawson
February 24, 2017 6:34 am

With all of the previous times occurring when there was a lot less CO2 in the atmosphere.

David Chappell
February 24, 2017 3:02 am

As at 1000UTC today the temperature differential in recorded reporting stations in the world is 96C. In the Northern Hemisphere summer the differential is around 130-150C. In Hong Kong (a relatively small place) right now the difference between the coldest place and the warmest is 8.7C. Who the hell is going to notice a 2C difference in annual average temperature?

February 24, 2017 3:18 am

A political scientist? Rather says it all!

John M. Ware
February 24, 2017 3:32 am

This February has been unusually warm in Virginia, so far slightly over 5 degrees F above the “long-term” average. Two years ago, February 2015 was 12.43 degrees F BELOW average! The mean temp for that month was 28.5 degrees, compared to the long-term average of 40.9. So averaging 2015 and 2017, the two months were still over three degrees below average. Didn’t hear much about global warming in Feb 2015. . . Now these figures are for Mechanicsville, 12 miles outside of Richmond, not for Richmond itself.

Bill Illis
February 24, 2017 3:56 am

Its been warm lately in the eastern US but this is coming to end this weekend with temps going 7F below normal.
Then a huge cold-front will move through in the first week of March with temps going down to 10F-15F below normal by the end of the first week of March.

February 24, 2017 4:46 am

It must be great to have nothing else to worry about than climate change that may or may not be natural/beneficial. I guess everything else in their lives are sorted.

February 24, 2017 4:49 am

There’s a boogy man inside the closet. Better pull the covers over your head and shiver in the dark. Apparently readers of The Atlantic have a four year olds mentality.

Reply to  troe
February 24, 2017 6:13 am

Or you could start a website or two claiming there are no such things as boogy men… scientists invented them to justify their spending on closets.

Reply to  Griff
February 24, 2017 7:29 am

Or even better still you could start a heterodox website irritating the crap out of the high priests who demand more virgins to keep the boogy man at bay. You know old saw Griff “the more things change the more they stay the same” easy to see once you know the players.

Reply to  Griff
February 25, 2017 1:16 pm

Have you apologised to Dr. Cockcroft for lying about her professional credentials yet, skanky?
Tell us, are you indemnified by your handlers against legal action taken against you for slander or – more likely – will they just hang you out to dry?

michael hart
February 24, 2017 5:00 am

“The Atlantic: Is it OK to enjoy Warm Winter Weather?” Maybe The Atlantic should send their “journalists” out to sleep with homeless, and ask them what they think while they are about it.

David Smith
February 24, 2017 5:12 am

Great comment on the Atlantic page that will have the greenies in a strop:

Hell, if it means the end of winter I’ll club every baby seal to death personally and turn the glaciers into a giant Walmart.

February 24, 2017 5:36 am

“As a result, little is known about population exposure to changes in weather and how people experience and evaluate these changes considered together.”
I’m pretty sure that from September/October until April/May, that a rather large migration occurs. People from the Northeastern part of North America, aka ‘snowbirds’, travel by car and plane to Florida in order to avoid cold weather.

Reply to  Mason
February 24, 2017 6:24 am

Really? From the northeast to Florida? Well, what about all those people who migrate from flyover country to ski resorts in the mountains of New England? I haven’t checked anything in the Sugarbush, VT area, yet, but without a lot of snow, they don’t get the seasonal ski business they count on every year.

Gloateus Maximus
February 24, 2017 5:46 am

So, the Atlantic staff would prefer this scene from earlier this winter in NYC:comment image?v=at&w=320&h=180&api=7db9fe61-7414-47b5-9871-e17d87b8b6a0

February 24, 2017 5:53 am

When you are having an early warmspell you are always worried the apple and peach blooms will be destroyed. This is just weather and has nothing to do with climate change.

February 24, 2017 6:00 am

Why not further explain the point to the ignorant masses that you are saying perpetually strong El Nino conditions projected with a straight edge into the future? And then go on to dare a graph or two depicting the ludicrousness of the verbal warning. Education in America, at least among technical majors, has not deteriorated to the point yet that reading a key graph or two is not helpful.

February 24, 2017 6:09 am

Did anyone ask the Arctic?

Gloateus Maximus
Reply to  Resourceguy
February 24, 2017 6:34 am

Much higher than average Arctic air temperatures with below average sea ice. CACA shot down yet again.

Gloateus Maximus
Reply to  Gloateus Maximus
February 24, 2017 6:36 am

Oops. Sorry. Meant to post alleged Arctic sea ice extent:
And say accidental coincidence.

February 24, 2017 6:38 am

There are cold winters and there are warm winters. The eastern half of the US is experiencing a warm winter and the western half has been cold and wet. Nature always tries to strive to reach a balance but in an attempt to do so, it ironically creates imbalances in temperatures and moisture. Two years ago Texas came out of a major drought and now California is doing the same. Nothing stays the same. Average temperatures are not something we normally experience but is used as a measure of average conditions. If you put one foot in an ice bucket and the other foot in hot water, on average your feet should feel fine.
I’m sure there are parts of the world that are much colder than normal. The winter of 2014-215 was very cold in the east. For the month of February, the average temperature in NYC was 8 degrees below normal and everybody was using the displacement of the Polar Vortex further south as the cause. Usually, a 3-degree departure would be significant for NYC. Eight degrees is unheard of. People have short memories. I remember winters in 1980’s that were warmer than this year in the east.

Reply to  Arthur Morrone
February 24, 2017 9:19 am

I disagree with this, “…Nature always tries to strive to reach a balance but in an attempt to do so,..”. In my view, nature is always shifting and that is to the benefit of all of nature. There is no balance per se, but every region/area eventually gets what it needs in rainfall amounts as well as in healthy freezes which aid in controlling insect populations. Insects could otherwise burst out of control except for natural mitigation. That is how the balance of nature works.

Bruce Cobb
February 24, 2017 6:46 am

These people worried about the warm, enjoyable weather are experiencing classic cognitive dissonance. The unusually warm weather is good now, but ultimately “bad” for the planet, and “bad” for the children (they think). The way out of their dilemma would be to educate themselves about climate, but they have a belief system to protect, so they don’t. I call these people climatards.

February 24, 2017 6:56 am

Was it not Duke where medical science was faked and caught?

Dave in Canmore
February 24, 2017 7:00 am

I checked out the twitter feed of the person who tweeted “the earth is in danger.” While it’s unfair of me to judge them without knowing them, their feed leaves me to believe they are uneducated, incredibly shallow and numbingly superficial. Why anyone would care what her opinion is especially of a scientific nature is beyond me. It shows the level of journalism in the Atlantic that they would vault this person’s opinion to relevancy regardless of the number of people that re-tweeted it. The tweet author appears to spend the bulk of her daily mental energy on celebrities and make-up rather than taking personal action on the issue that supposedly worries her so much. For the Atlantic to project a “fake opinion” as representing the opinion of the general population is either lying, lazy or incompetent.
A pox not just on bad journalism, but all journalists who allow the bad ones to drag down their entire profession to a laughing stock. That’s what journalists are now, a pathetic profession of idiots, fools, and enablers who remain silent.

Craig Loehle
February 24, 2017 7:24 am

People forget so quickly that just a few years ago the entire great lakes were 90%+ frozen in February and didn’t thaw completely until June. There is a huge wobble in the Jet Stream due to the Rockies, Greenland and other mountain ranges. So one region can be toasty (like Chicago right now) and another can be frozen solid. That is just how it works.

Curious George
February 24, 2017 7:42 am

Anxiety and unease about weather. Yesterday kids were anxious about Trump, last year kids were anxious that police would come and kill them. Some parents are totally unfit for the role. So is Mr. Meyer.

February 24, 2017 7:50 am

Mild winter weather in the past would always have been celebrated, welcomed, and a relief.
The incessant socialist-initiated fear-mongering & brain-washing has produced a kind of cultural psychosis.

Pop Piasa
February 24, 2017 8:12 am

Delightful! Worthy of archiving for historians to look back and chuckle at the MSM inspired pessimism of the present.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Pop Piasa
February 24, 2017 1:35 pm

Oh, wait! that’s a poem by John O’Brien…

February 24, 2017 8:16 am

We had a touch of ground frost the other day. Should I start to worry about global cooling?

February 24, 2017 8:17 am

“It’s scary, that’s my first thing. Because in all my life I’ve never seen a February this warm.”
Yep, because she was probably born after the last big El Nino!

February 24, 2017 8:26 am

Definitely not ok. Nor should you enjoy the sun illuminating the greener than ever vegetation. You must put on a hair shirt and go freeze somewhere, chanting, “cold is extreme, extreme is warming, repent!”

Non Nomen
Reply to  gymnosperm
February 24, 2017 8:47 am

Serpents are poikilothermic and they like it warm.

Pop Piasa
February 24, 2017 8:39 am

I give The Atlantic about as much credence as I do RT News. Look at them once in awhile to see what’s new on the “fringe”.

Non Nomen
Reply to  Pop Piasa
February 24, 2017 8:44 am

RT is more credible than the BBC, or the Graudian, for example. RT doesn’t pretend being unbiased.

Reply to  Pop Piasa
February 24, 2017 9:13 am


February 24, 2017 8:50 am

Weirderer and weirdererer.

February 24, 2017 9:00 am

What we’re dealing with here is a level of stupidity not seen since yesterday’s climastrology news.

Pamela Gray
February 24, 2017 9:03 am

Enjoy the warm, fear the cold. Over and over again ice cores demonstrate dry windy drought in cold temperatures and increased wetlands and plant growth in warm temperatures. The catastrophics have it assbackwards.

February 24, 2017 9:04 am

Down-welling IR has been decreasing this century. comment image?w=640&h=252
Isn’t this definitive proof that CO2 can’t be responsible for any 21st century warming?

February 24, 2017 9:15 am

A recent poll shows that 97% of humans, who had a choice, would rather sweat than shiver! 😉

Reply to  ossqss
February 24, 2017 11:32 am

Positive feedback loops enhance or amplify changes; this tends to move a system away from its equilibrium state and make it more unstable.
Consequently, global warming alarmism is a positive feedback loop — fear of global warming sparks research funding to attribute global warming to humans, where confirmation bias confirms this, which amplifies fear of global warming, moving one’s sanity away from its equilibrium state towards greater mental instability. … The sensitivity of this feedback loop to funding, thus, is huge.
Money makes people crazy. Now let me get started on my pretty graph that shows the relationship between average research-grant dollars vs. warnings of climate doom.

Reply to  Robert Kernodle
February 24, 2017 11:37 am

Now for some: Because of the freaky warm February here in the central east coast USA, I have (for the past week) been able to do a much needed window replacement on the house, which is better sealed and more water resistant for the next blast of cold winter in coming years.
In other words, the warm has enabled me to prepare for the cold. (^_^).

Reply to  ossqss
February 24, 2017 11:38 am

… should have read, “Now for some irony”

February 24, 2017 9:15 am

Conclusion: Financially fragile and precarious media groups are more susceptible to climate scare media messaging ad placements.

Caligula Jones
February 24, 2017 10:02 am

English language media is centered here in Toronto, Canada.
We have no snow now, haven’t had much, might get some more.
Just north of the city, its been a “normal” winter. My dad lives about two hours north, and it has the traditional three feet or so.
But you can guess what the headlines are (see first line).

Caligula Jones
February 24, 2017 10:09 am

The Left has transformed into what the Right used to be. They are the new Puritans, with their pearl-clutching and fainting couches.
“Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.”
HL Mencken

Reply to  Caligula Jones
February 24, 2017 12:24 pm


February 24, 2017 10:45 am

Until Wednesday, we had a string of warm winter days (50° to 60F)°. Now we have a foot of snow and it’s 22 degrees. Maybe we should fear those who think they can predict the future rather than the worrying about warm winter weather.

James at 48
February 24, 2017 10:51 am

Firstly: Weather is not climate. With that out of the way, it does seem that the Eastern US has had an abnormal amount of warm conditions the past couple of decades, meanwhile here out West … zzzzzzzzzzz …. even perhaps a tad colder than normal during that same span.
PDO? AMO? etc?
In any case, it is truly unfortunate that there are so many climate alarmists and MSM who happen to be in the US warm sector (e.g. due to our highly uneven continental population density). Talk about a positive feedback loop.

February 24, 2017 11:09 am

Mammoth Mountain CA just hit 500″ of global warming earlier than any season than since they started keeping track. They have had trouble keeping the roads open and are actually having to dig out the chair lifts.

February 24, 2017 1:05 pm

I’m not in the least bit disturbed that I can ride my motorcycle in late February in the mid-Atlantic region.

February 24, 2017 2:14 pm

Obama scared me more than the climate ever will.

Gunga Din
February 24, 2017 3:40 pm

…the weather can also prompt anxiety and unease. As one woman told the Chicago Tribune: “It’s scary, that’s my first thing. Because in all my life I’ve never seen a February this warm.”

I followed the link to what she said.
She’s only 33. I’m a few years shy of being twice as old.
I’ve lived in my current little spot on the globe for only about 4 years shy of her total lifetime.
Today we set a record (recorded) high for Feb 24. 76 or so for central Ohio. (YEAH!)
We might have a bit of snow tomorrow. (BUMMER!)
Nothing to be afraid of.
It’s just weather. It changes. (As do the numbers in the records, at times.)
PS For the little spot on the globe I currently occupy, the record high for Feb 4 as listed in 2002, was 66 set in 1946. In 2012 it was listed as 61 set in 1961 and tied in 1991.
The last list I have (2014) says it was, once again, 66 but it was now set in 1890.
I don’t trust the records for my little spot on the globe much anymore. Why trust what they say is the average of the rest of the spots on the globe?

Reply to  Gunga Din
February 24, 2017 4:23 pm

I’m also in central Ohio! O-H 🙂

Gunga Din
Reply to  Allison
February 25, 2017 5:58 am


Steve R
February 24, 2017 5:15 pm

I was recently made aware of “Betteridge’s law of headlines” which states: “Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no.”'s_law_of_headlines

February 24, 2017 5:54 pm

Dallas: Yesterday…
I was stretched out in my lounge chair w/ a cool beverage, sunglasses and a paperback. It felt like vacation in Miami.
Yes. I enjoyed it. A LOT.

February 24, 2017 9:15 pm

Some people, such as the staff of The Atlantic and those who waste their time with this publication, are only content when they are unhappy. They revel in their ‘guilt complexes’ and wallow in the attention they can garner by portraying themselves as victims.
This is their lifestyle choice, which I will not begrudge them. I personally choose to be as happy as possible as it enhances my own quality of life. My happiness is ever enhanced by making others happy. In the case of these sad sacks, it means encouraging their misery.

Craig W
February 25, 2017 5:38 am

“Weather is not climate”. 🌈🦄

February 25, 2017 6:45 am

Relax. If you check out UAH satellite temps you will notice that the El Nino is already cooling down. It is quite likely that a cool La Nina will soon take over its place. Cooler weather is also forecast by the background temperature trend that temporarily was over-ridden by the El Nino of 2015/2016.

February 25, 2017 7:52 am

What the greens should be concerned with isn’t enjoying the warmth, they should feel ashamed for being exploited and used as political useful idi0ts.
Climate “Science” on Trial; Clear-Cutting Forests to Save the Trees

Bill Parsons
February 25, 2017 5:37 pm

I can understand why early springs bring such dissonance. I saw a daffodil today, and when I get over my shock and disbelief and denial, I just got out the Roundup and put it out of its young misery
Best of luck to all of you other disillusioned warmists out there… RESIST!

Barbara Skolaut
February 25, 2017 6:59 pm

Oh, ferchrissakes. I make a short trip for a convention at the end of every February. Last year, the area had tornadoes and high winds (I was literally nearly blown off my feet while trying to get in the door of the hotel; another guest grabbed me to keep me on my feet). The year before that, there was 8+ inches of snow (in a large metropolitan area that I think had all of 2 snowplows – thank God for all-wheel-drive). This year, daytime temperatures were in the 70’s; I was wearing a short-sleeved shirt and using the air conditioning in the car.
Guess which year I prefer?

February 26, 2017 4:09 am

Warm winterweather is exactly why I moved to Florida. Maybe the question why does anyone enjoy cold winter weather?

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