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Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Catholic Online reports that new priests will be expected to be familiar with and promote efforts to reduce carbon emissions.
New priests to learn about global warming as part of formation
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LOS ANGELES, CA (California Network) — The Catholic Church is intimately concerned about climate change. The Vatican’s Pontifical Academy of Sciences is the world’s oldest, longest running scientific mission. That body, which advises the pope on matters of science, has concluded that global climate change is real and is caused, at least in significant part, by human activity.
This is important to the Church because creation care is part of our mission. We are called to be stewards of creation. It’s also important because climate change can exacerbate the ills of poverty. Poor people in much of the world are the most vulnerable to changes.
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Unfortunately, the issue is politicized. In the late 1970s, when the issue threatened the financial interests of the fossil fuel industry, the political lobbies, chiefly in the United States, financed a massive political disinformation campaign to manufacture the illusion of dissent within the scientific community.
We know because this manipulation of public opinion has been caught and documented. The fossil fuel industry funds nearly all of the climate change skeptics, going so far as to commission questionable studies, to financing think tanks, and even paying individual bloggers. The deception continues today.
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But what does this have to do with the Church?
The Church has a responsibility to care for people, and the environment. And care for one is also care for the other.
Now updated guidelines for the formation of clergy says new priests should understand this as well:
“Protecting the environment and caring for our common home — the Earth, belong fully to the Christian outlook on man and reality. Priests should be “promoters of an appropriate care for everything connected to the protection of creation.”
The new guidelines suggest that in the future, priests will also have a good grasp of the global climate change problem and will share this with their congregation.
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Read more: http://www.catholic.org/news/green/story.php?id=72433
From the Vatican website;
The Gift of the Priestly Vocation
… For some time now, experts and researchers, active in different fields of study, have turned their attention to the emerging planetary crisis, which is reflected strongly in the current Magisterium regarding the ‘ecological question’. Protecting the environment and caring for our common home – the Earth – belong fully to the Christian outlook on man and reality. They constitute in some way the basis for a sound ecology of human relations. Hence they demand, today above all, a “profound interior conversion. It must be said that some committed and prayerful Christians, with the excuse of realism and pragmatism, tend to ridicule expressions of concern for the environment. Others are passive; they choose not to change their habits and thus become inconsistent. So what they all need is an ‘ecological conversion’, whereby the effects of their encounter with Jesus Christ become evidence in their relationship with the world around them. Living our vocation to be protectors of God’s handiwork is essential to a life of virtue; it is not an optional or a secondary aspect of our Christian experience. Therefore it will be necessary for future priests to be highly sensitive to this theme and, through the requisite Magisterial and theological guidance, helped to “acknowledge the appeal, immensity and urgency of the challenge we face”. This must then be applied to their future priestly ministry, making them promoters of an appropriate care for everything connected to the protection of creation. …
Whats next? Excommunication of scientists whose theories aren’t approved by the Pope?
Update (EW) – Added a quote from “The Gift of the Priestly Vocation” from the Vatican website.
This pope is pushing me further away from my religion. I suggest he and the church stick to the practice of religion and avoid/shun political or scientific issues.
This pope isn’t professing the Catholic faith. Is he, therefore, a Catholic? Or is he an imposter placed in Rome to further the globalist agenda?
Condoms!!!
Oh yeah…heaven forbid the Pope tells the steaming masses ..to quit breeding so many peol detriment to the planet.Also Im starting to believe more and more in abortion….TOO MANY PEOPLE is unsustainable.
Too many people trapped in “urban prisons” by their own learned social ideology and work ethic. – “The Sustained”
When “The Sustained” outnumber “The Sustainers”, the economy eventually erodes into the unbridled printing of currency to keep up. Oh, wait…
Wow, well put!
Have you made your exit plan then? I mean, will you lead by example?
And this is the same “Scientific Mission” which threatened to excommunicate and do who know what else to Galileo because he proposed that the earth was NOT the center of the universe. I also believe Vatican scientists opposed the premise that the earth was round and not flat!
400 years later the church still has the blood of Giordano Bruno on its hands.
No, the official Church cosmology was Ptolemaic, ie a series of nested spheres.
A flat earth was maintained by Early Church Fathers, because that’s what’s in the Bible, but from Augustine onward (c. AD 400), the Church made peace with pagan science, in order not to turn off educated converts. Read his “The Literal Meaning of Genesis”.
No milodon, the flat earth is not in the Scriptures — unless you skillfully read it into some texts and ignore others.
The Greeks had frisbees and drum-shaped earths and geocentric arrangements of the heavens. Augustine was the scholar who shoehorned the Roman Church doctrine to the Greek teachings. And that is where it stayed.
Oh how they miss Aristotle.
But even Augustine deserves some credit for not making up certainties where they are not merited, esp. in Astronomy.
Galileo said when defending himself against the scholastics,
Zeke,
The whole Bible, both Testaments, is a flat earth document, from start to finish. Reading 1 Enoch leaves no doubt, but, as noted, Enoch, despite its popularity in Jesus’ time and with his sect, was kept out of the Masoretic Text as presaging the Ascension of Christ, and out of most Christian canons for being too obviously at odds with pagan science.
https://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/febible.htm
First, consider the OT. The essential flatness of the earth’s surface is required by verses like Daniel 4:10-11. There the king “saw a tree of great height at the center of the earth…reaching with its top to the sky and visible to the earth’s farthest bounds.” If the earth were flat, a sufficiently tall tree would be visible to “the earth’s farthest bounds,” but this is impossible on a spherical earth.
Same goes for the NT. In describing the temptation of Jesus by Satan, Matthew 4:8 says, “Once again, the devil took him to a very high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world in their glory.” Obviously, this would be possible only if the earth were flat. The same is true of Revelation 1:7: “Behold, he is coming with the clouds! Every eye shall see him…”
Further proof of the biblical flat earth comes from its “corners.” For example, “After this, I saw four angels stationed at the four corners of the earth holding back the four winds…” (Revelation 7:1). Spherical apologists point out that the Greek “gonia” can refer to regions rather than points. Most translations of the Bible opt for “points”, eg. the King James version says “on the corners of the earth”, implying that the writer viewed the habitable earth as a four-cornered area.
This was indeed the way many early churchmen interpreted it, such as Cosmas Indicopleustes, as late as AD 547 (150 years after Augustine suggested that the Church should give up on a flat earth). The corners could, however, be those regions at the ends of the earth referred to in Jeremiah 51:16: “[H]e brings up the mist from the ends of the earth, he opens rifts for the rain and brings the wind out of his storehouses”. But an earth with ends is also plainly not spherical.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth#Early_Christian_Church
There is no modern astronomy or cosmology in the Bible, just as there is no geology, chemistry, meteorology, biology, physics or any other science. Nor does the Bible anywhere claim to offer a naturalistic picture of the world. Instead, it features talking serpents and donkeys, and cud-chewing rabbits. It’s a pre-scientific compilation of documents, which retarded the advance of science for 1000 years.
Playing fast and loose with the scriptures there Chimp.
The vision that the king of Babylon had of a massive tree that filled the earth (and earlier of an enormous statue) was symbolic. Spiritual visions are usually non-verbal and highly symbolic, and are expressing simply and visually what would take many volumes to say in language. Jesus used parables to talk about spiritual things. And you, if you dream at night, dream in images too.
You know that it was a dream, a picture, because Daniel himself gives the meaning of the tree whose height is to the heavens. “It is you O king.” It was a picture of the Babylonian Empire. But the holy watchers came and cut the tree down. Daniel interpreted this in chapter 4 as the king going mad for seven years.
Folks, this is not a text which proves the flat earth!
Some basic rules of scholarship.
If you are going to handle any ancient or even historical texts, you are going to have to try to understand when spiritual images are used, as in the symbolism of the vision; or when an idiom is being used. In some cases there may be some figure of speech which is no longer in use.
You have to remember, the king of Babylon’s empire was a world empire, and it was very hard to get away from its shadow.
Goodness. By these rules, if you use the term “sunrise” or “sunset” you are a geocentrist!
Chimp says, “After this, I saw four angels stationed at the four corners of the earth holding back the four winds…” (Revelation 7:1).” [Must be literal corners of a flat earth]
There’s a good college try. That is much more interesting.
John saw the vision. Let’s have fun and think of it as if he literally saw the earth beneath him, and he saw Angels preparing themselves and preparing the earth. They are “holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, on the sea, or on any tree. Then [he] saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God. And he cried with a loud voice”
First, if he was close enough, he certainly would see the ends of the earth. Do you like NASA live streaming of flyovers? They are beautiful. But not far enough distant to see the earth’s entire sphere. None of us would accuse NASA of presenting a flat earth, would we? Well maybe some would. After all, it is youtube.
Syllogisms and philology are fun, and interesting; but they are failing you here. That text is not a flat earth text either. And the Greek word can mean an angle or a quarter. Besides this, the root word is unknown. So it is not a matter of astronomical certainty.
Do you know what Christians believe milodon? We believe that there will come a time when the earth reels to and fro like a drunkard.
The earth is violently broken,
The earth is split open,
The earth is shaken exceedingly.
The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard,
And shall totter like a hut;
Its transgression shall be heavy upon it,
And it will fall, and not rise again.
Now that is so sad. But drunkards are three dimensional. 😀
Zeke,
To anyone who has studied Greek, the origin of the word is not unknown. It’s obviously derived from “gonu”, “knee”, and clearly cognate with the English word. I first encountered it not in the NT, but in Homeric Greek from hundreds of years earlier. One of Achilles epithets is “well-greaved” (shin guards), which is “ἐυ-κνήμιδες” (eü-knḗmides), even more obviously cognate with “knee”. Shin and knee in Greek are similar, ie knay and gonu. So a corner of a room is where you kneel.
There are passages in the Bible which also can be read as an earth shaped like a disk rather than a rectangle, but still flat.
The tree in the dream in Daniel is not regarded as fantastic. That the same idea, ie being able to see the whole world from a high place on it, appears, as I showed, in the NT as well, outside of a dream context.
In the Bible, the anthropomorphic sun does literally rise, come out of his tent like a bridegroom, runs a race like a strong man, then returns to the place of his rising. His return has to take place outside the solid, domed vault of heaven covering the flat earth, held immobile in place by its pillars.
It’s those who try to read science into the Bible who violate the rules of scholarship. There isn’t any science in it. It’s pre-scientific from Genesis to Revelation.
Nor is it a valid exercise to try to show that there is science in the Bible. The whole point is to take its incredible stories, such as the Resurrection, on faith. If the Bible were factually credible, then what’s the value of faith?
As an Early Church Father wisely wrote, “I believe precisely because it is absurd.” And as Luther sagely said, “In order to be a Christian, one must tear the eyes out of his reason.”
God remains hidden for a purpose, although of course He used to walk and talk with people, then spoke only from storm clouds or burning bushes, before finally the rule became, “to see God is to perish”. The human concept of God changed over the centuries during which the books of the Bible were written. Yahweh started out as the chief god of a tribe, who like Apollo rode in a chariot across the sky, as shown by coins. And He enjoyed a good burnt or blood sacrifice, just like the pagan gods.
Now milodon,
I am very interested in the use of the mountain where the devil took Y’shua to tempt Him, as a proof for a geographical theory. He “showed Him all the kingdoms of the earth and said, ‘All these will I give you, and their glory, if you will but follow me.'”
Now I have always pictured “all of the kingdoms of the earth” as meaning all of the kingdoms of the earth. This includes not only the Empires of the ME like Greece and Rome, but also future kingdoms.
And a helpful way to study these ancient texts is to compare Scripture with Scripture. Lucifer appears in Isaiah, and this is why I come to this temptation in the wilderness with a different understanding than you do. Ol’ Scratch is a spiritual being. And he has a very big “thing” about being the highest, above all the angels, above the stars.
“How you are fallen from heaven,
O Lucifer, son of the morning!
How you are cut down to the ground,
You who weakened the nations!
13 For you have said in your heart:
‘I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;
I will also sit on the mount of the congregation
On the farthest sides of the north;
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds,
I will be like the Most High.’
15 Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol,
To the lowest depths of the Pit.
16 “Those who see you will gaze at you,
And consider you, saying:
‘Is this the man who made the earth tremble,
Who shook kingdoms,
17 Who made the world as a wilderness
As you can see, he will wind up in the lowest little pit instead of the highest heaven.
So no flat earth there either. And incidentally, he may be able to make legitimate offers like that. For “the whole world lies under the sway of the wicked one.” A lot of people will take him up on that. I wouldn’t take any offers from Ol Scratch, or any geography lessons though. (:
Nice that you have an early date for HOmer…(:
PS: The cognate is even more obvious in French than in English or German: le genou.
I am not so sure you have much of a chance of convincing people that the earth is flat because of the four knees in Rev 7, where angels are standing opposite each other, in the four quarters of the sky.
This kind of rifling through texts to pilfer what you need for a particular proof is very very common. In fact Galileo said that is exactly what the scholastics were doing to him, in order to defend Aristotle and Ptolemy.
See quote here:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/12/10/catholic-church-new-priests-will-be-expected-to-preach-global-warming/#comment-2367231
PPS:
It’s probably just an accident that the Greek word for knee, gonu, is so similar to that for woman, gune (goo-nay), as in gynecology. Greek u is written like a y but pronounced oo..
Zeke,
I don’t have to convince anyone. The Early Church Fathers were flat-earthers because there is no sphericity in the Bible. As noted, even in the 6th century, there were still Catholic intellectuals who insisted on a flat earth because the Bible clearly says so.
The map of Cosmas Indicopleustes from AD 547, for instance:
need anymore proof that the Catholic Church is run by Marxists..I quit supporting years ago..Catholic Charities are a money sucking discrace
Jesuits, Communist with Crosses.
Marranos with crosses.
We are now seeing the downfall of the Catholic church – instead of preaching the gospel, priests will promote the false narrative of global warming. That’s why so many of us have left that church – it truly is a cult.
That’s a real turn off to practicing Catholics in the US, and probably a dire warning to Third World Catholics who’d like too some more economic opportunities. Global warming is becoming the alter-ego to Liberation Theology
Don’t they preach that it all started with paradise where people could walk around naked all year around? Most have been a warm place.
No polar bears.
over a couple of days, naked humans cannot survive temperatures below 27C / 80F. we die of exposure. the earth is now 15C. it wasn’t God, it was climate change that kicked us out of Paradise. We need at least 12 C of global warming to return to the Garden of Eden.
The Pope is trying to prevent the very thing that would allow us to return to Paradise.
Here is a quote from a character named Boris Alotovkrap that appeared at Zero Hedge a few years ago. I have never forgotten it. It is quite befitting.
“In cave in rural France is painting circa 5000 BC, and is tell story. One day is rain much and lightening is loud and scary. Leader of cave community is explain danger of lightening and is predict end of world if citizenry is not work hard for stopping of lightening. Every citizenry of community must bring it portion of berries and meat for sacrificial god and make incantation. Leader of cave community is so very smart, is not help hunt and gather, but is must make strategy and “guide” community for self-preservation technique. One day, citizen is look up and see is still lightening, but is look around and is still alive. Other is still alive. Lightening is come and go, and community is survive. Citizen is make comment at cave meeting and next day is fall in tar pit.
Leader of cave community is explain danger of tar pit and is predict end of world if citizenry is not work hard for prevention of tar pit…”
No dinosaurs.
Yes there is, on the right side sticking his neck up.
That’s an ostrich.
Birds are dinosaurs.
Robertvd writes “Don’t they preach that it all started with paradise where people could walk around naked all year around?”
Yes, they don’t preach that. They preach it all started with “Let there be light”
Coming from the Church which imprisoned Galileo for having the gall to profess the Earth was not the center of the universe. It only took more than 300 years for the Church to admit that Galileo was right and to clear his name of heresy. Safe to say the Church doesn’t have a good track record with whatever the ruling power mandated science of the day is.
It was 300 years after the Church had gotten in league with the international banking families. Thus, the change of heart.
This is bullshit, they have no place preaching some global control agenda.
David Popowitch says “they have no place preaching some global control agenda”
Says you. When did it become your place to tell anyone else what is their place?
When did it become your place to tell anyone else what is their place?
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the same can be said for the Pope. When did it become the Pope’s place to tell anyone else what is their place? nowhere does the Bible mention carbon pollution as an evil.
As I recall, the message of Jesus was to let God into your heart, and thereby God will guide your actions. Why do I need the Pope to tell me what God wants if I can speak directly to God?
“Why do I need the Pope to tell me what God wants if I can speak directly to God?”
That’s just the heretical kind of thinking that created Lutherans. I mean, if you didn’t need priests, you wouldn’t need to pay the church tithes. Then the RC wouldn’t be filthy rich.
true
The last time the church got involved with science and said the universe revolved around the earth, they killed the disbelievers. Now they are again going to preach unproven and most probably fake science again. I’m losing my faith in the Catholic church.
That’s the whole point behind what the globalists are doing. They want a one world religion (or a dogma-less church), a one world government, a one world police state. What goes on in Rome isn’t Catholic. The church was overrun by atheists and luciferians decades and decades ago. Its ‘coming out’ party was Vatican II.
If a god exists and catholics control that god thru prayer then can they not pray away the warming?
Here’s a quick lesson in syllogistic reasoning. For the conclusion to be true, both premises must be true. Your second statement needs some work. (Hint: no religion claims to control God.)
Catholics do not control God. No human does.
According to this pope he does control God. Seem to remember something from biblical teachings about false prophets and such and here one is in the Vatican. Imagine that.
According to this pope he does control God.
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He certainly says he knows what God wants better than we do. Otherwise why not simply tell people to let God tell them what is right?
Or is his message on Climate Change from God, or some other source? If it is not the word of God, then what the heck is the Pope doing as the spokesman?
I pray for warming everyday…”God, I pray that it gets warmer because right now my fingers are numb’. …see, I just prayed. Let me check outside see if it worked…………..nope. Dang!
Sitting here with my Johnnie Heater hanging under the counter my computer sits on keeping finger thangs warm.
Ye of little faith. Go forth and burn some carbon and thou shalt be warmed.
Brian? Carbon is burning, it just don’t reach this corner of the house.
If I do some harm
By just keeping warm,
You’ll have to kindly forgive me.
I find my solution
Is carbon pollution,
Ere Gaia would quickly outlive me!
I didn’t use to believe in God. Then Trump got elected.
BooYaa.
all it takes if liberals stop breathing or breathing slower and they will cut carbon dioxide quickly
The Pope’s infallibility applies only to religious doctrine and must be ratified by the Bishops of the Church. There is much dissent within the Church with this Pope’s dipping into politics; and the writers claim that the dissenting scientists have been ‘bought’ by the Fossil Fuel Industry are just as outrageous as Al Gore’s dire predictions were years ago. Yes, Virginia, there is climate change. It happens every Spring, Summer, Winter and Fall! That all priests will bow to this lunacy is far from certain!
Well said Mel. My priest can’t stomach this pope. I really question his allegiance.
The Pope’s infallibility applies only to religious doctrine and must be ratified by the Bishops of the Church.
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why would the divine insight from God need ratification by men? Why do humans need an intermediary to talk to an all powerful God on their behalf? Can’t God talk to us directly? If God is against CO2, why not just call us up directly and explain the problem? It you can create a Universe and everything in it, it seems you should at least be able to dial a cell phone. If God doesn’t make the call, perhaps that is the message we are meant to receive?
When the Pope (a true pope that is) speaks either ex cathedra (from the Chair of Peter) and ‘defines’ and ‘decrees’ a teaching on faith and/or morals, then he does NOT need ‘ratification’ from anyone. Even when the Pope teaches as a part of the ordinary magisterium, on the faith and/or morals, he does NOT need approval from anyone. However, in my opinion, this man is a plant (as were several before him) and is not a Catholic, let alone a pope.
When the Christian faith was introduced to Northern Europe, they incorporated elements of the pagan religions already there in order to smooth the transition. Looks like the Pope is using the same technique to draw in members of the Church of Cagw.
Yes, people are contributing to global warming – the fact that there are more people on Earth than ever before means that people are contributing to global warming. So… is the Catholic Church going to promote birth control? The planet has been thru Ice Ages before and no doubt will go thru it again. Have the scientists in the Vatican have been listening to the same researchers have change advocates like DiCaprio who flies around on a private jet?
This Pope could say he was an atheist and it wouldn’t be surprising. He has supported LBGTQ and yet priests still can’t marry.
The Pope just compared reading fake news to coprophagia which is the eating of fecal matter. Now the church is disseminating fake news. Whatever is he trying to tell us?
That he’s the false Pope.
No further evidence required for me. I’ve heard enough.
The Pope is a an Argentine Communist and he has hooked his star to the now failing new world order / Socialists and as we see trump quickly start to take over the reins of power, the FAKE NEWS of Global Warming, which is making guys like Gore and Tom Steyer Zillionarires off the rubes, will see themselves regulated to the dust bin of history. Remember in the 70’s it was the constant drumbeat of…. GLOBAL KOOLING & the NEW ICE AGE.. OOPS.. it started to get slightly warmer as the earths normal process and wham… the Crazies start screaming GLOBAL WARMING / CLIMATE CHANGE… The hoax is over !!! FINALLY.
James,
Not to forget Elon Musk among the scamsters.
Think you mean relegated, but regulated works, too.
Why not just go back to the original message we got from the Nuns at
Catholic School — It is a sin to waste resources. — I have a relative who was a Nun
for years. She has the carbon footprint of a church mouse. The Pope should stay
out of Climate Science and focus on moral lifestyle. The Church should have learned their lesson
with Galileo.
Absolutely
Jim writes “The Church should have learned their lesson with Galileo.”
I wish I had a dollar for every mention of Galileo on this page. It isn’t about Galileo!
Yes, in point of fact it is about Galileo, it is about the Catholic Church spreading lies and suppressing facts, two things CC has ALWAYS been quite adept at.
So the Church is going to preach a deliberate LIE rather than the Gospel of Salvation… it has abandoned God (see 2 Cor. 4:4 and John 8:44).
Exactly. They cannot be that stupid (this academy of science thing, I mean). It is intentional. It is not a mistake. It is a lie. Goal (ultimately): money.
That is the lie.
… has asserted…
That is the truth.
Note, too, any of you devout Roman Catholics reading who are now wondering if the AGW conjecture is, after all, true:
“Has “concluded” is NOT PROVEN.
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I’m not a Catholic, but, as a believer in the same Lord and Savior, it makes me sick. Their leadership are just friends of the world, now. Indistinguishable. Thus, as an organization, the Roman Catholic Church does not de facto exist. They ARE the world.
James 4:4.
(It must be acknowledged here that there are many, many, genuinely devout Catholics who are highly competent, world-class, genuine, scientists and who are, likewise, appalled)
“They cannot be that stupid” … sorry Janice, they are that stupid
I disagree Mark. That is to excuse them. Only a relatively few people on earth are that intellectually impaired. They may be foolish in taking such a parishioner-alienating stand, but, they are quite saavy about just how flimsy the conjecture about human CO2 is. They are intentionally deceiving their flock.
“Has concluded” is a consensus. A consensus is a political fact, not a scientific fact.
Exit polls indicate 55% of Catholics voted for Trump, much better than the 54% who voted for Obama. This in spite of our misguided Pope and his commie advisors. Note that these idiotic policies are in no way church dogma. Remember that as the largest governmental organization in the world the bureaucrats will continually screw things up.
They cannot be that stupid..
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Janice, this has nothing to do with “stupid”
The Catholic church is gaining members in countries that get paid…
…and losing members in countries that pay
He’s playing to his audience.
Janice, as I commented earlier in this thread: I think this is a perfect example of a “fake news” story. I am certain that the actual findings of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences has absolutely no references to the “big oil” conspiracy or anything more “radical” than that mankind should pay attention to our impact on the earth by our deeds as we are charged to “protect creation”. If one looks at the address of the link Eric provided you can see readily that the original pontifical academy findings are passing through several green filters on their way to becoming this story. In peoples rush to show off their need to challenge authority, or erudition on the history of Christianity, or disdain for it all, they say stupid things that isolate themselves from natural allies like the very substantial conservative catholic movement. This battle, even with the encouraging news of some of Trumps appointees, is far from over. Allowing pet peeves to separate us is playing to the progressive game of dividing the public into ever diminishing groups requiring “special consideration” from an overreaching but “beneficent” government.
The goal is MUCH more than filthy lucre, Janice. It’s the carbon casino (Rothschild owned and run) and because you are a ‘carbon life form’ (as we were told by our predictive programming called television), most of humanity is to be taxed into oblivion because of its carbon ‘footprint’ and/or eliminated outright, and/or never allowed to be born. I’m sure you’ve heard of Agenda 21?
Have to agree with Mark here. If the leading lights of the regular academic institutions can be that stupid, why not the Papal Academy? One would think that in order to join such a strange outfit — institutionalized subservience of science to dogma — you have be on the not so skeptical arm of the normal distribution to begin with.
Michael, we have to stop thinking they are all doing this because they are stupid.
The pope is not being stupid…he’s being slimy
It’s his version of buying votes.
Telling people in the first world…where the church is losing members…they don’t have to pay…will not get him any more members.
Telling third world people…where the church is gaining members…that joining the church will get them something….’will’ get him members
Look where he’s been and what he’s said in the past….he’s playing to the third world..and has since day one
Specifically, you’re referring to the Catholic church. Definitely not the Church Paul teaches to in the New Testament.
If it is such a problem, shouldn’t we fix it by eliminating humans?
Just tell them if people aren’t working they can’t put money in to the collection basket every week. That will change their tune in a hurry.
Fake News will be disseminated from the Catholic pulpits?
WHY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH STAND ON CLIMATE CHANGE IS A BUNCH OF BS!
Consider this fact regarding the Vatican’s Climate Change Summit that was used as bases for the Pope’s encyclical on global warming. Opponents, skeptical scientist, regarding climate change were banned to the Vatican’s Climate Change Summit. This act alone makes the Pope’s encyclical on climate change questionable at best. A French scientist, Philippe de Larminat, who authored a book arguing that solar activity not greenhouse gases was driving global warming, sought a spot at a climate summit. The powerful Vatican bureaucrat in charge of the academy insisted he had no business being there. “They did not want to hear an off note,” de Larminat said. The incident highlights how climate-change doubters tried and failed to alter the landmark papal document unveiled last week, one that saw the leader of 1 billion Catholics fuse faith and reason and come to the conclusion that “denial” is wrong.
Fred Singer, a leading scientific skeptic of anthropocentric global warming (AGW), is an atmospheric physicist, and founder of the Science and Environmental Policy Project (SEPP), an organization that began challenging the published findings of the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC); said in an interview with the National Association of Scholars (NAS) that “the number of skeptical qualified scientists has been growing steadily; I would guess it is about 40% now.” Singer, asked what he would like to see happen in regard to public opinion and policy on climate change, Singer replied, I would like to see the public look upon global warming as just another scientific controversy and oppose any public policies until the major issues are settled, such as the cause. If mostly natural, as NIPCC concludes, then the public policies currently discussed are pointless, hugely expensive, and wasteful of resources that could better be applied to real societal problems.
Look, weather is cyclical. Climate is always changing, but Global Warming is a sham! Five Scientific Reasons That Global Warming Isn’t Happening:
1) There hasn’t been any global warming since 1997.
2) There is no scientific consensus that global warming is occurring and caused by man.
3) Arctic ice is up 50% since 2012.
4) Climate models showing global warming have been wrong over and over.
5) Predictions about the impact of global warming have already been proven wrong. Worse, however, has been the deliberate deceptions, misinformation, manipulation of records and misapplying scientific method and research to pursue a political objective.
Is it any wonder why the pews are emptying? I never knew that Jesus gave His life for the environment . . .I must be misguided, I thought if was for the salvation of souls!
And the catholic church drives itself even deeper into irrelevance and false doctrine. It has now become the willing propagandist for the leftist ideologues that this pope so truly loves.
The same leftist ideologues who mock and demonize religion of any kind as well as those who ‘cling’ to it.
I think they’re called “Klingons”.
Star Trek taught you most of what you need to know. (It’s all masonic.)