Leonardo DiCaprio Meeting with President-elect Donald Trump

Leonardo DiCaprio and Donald Trump
Leonardo DiCaprio By U.S. Department of State [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons and President-elect Donald Trump by Gage Skidmore [CC BY-SA 3.0], via Wikimedia Commons
Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Leonardo DiCaprio has met with Donald Trump and his team, to try to convince him to implement a programme of green job creation.

“Today, we presented the President-elect and his advisors with a framework – which LDF developed in consultation with leading voices in the fields of economics and environmentalism – that details how to unleash a major economic revival across the United States that is centered on investments in sustainable infrastructure,” Tamminen said.

Our conversation focused on how create millions of secure, American jobs in the construction and operation of commercial and residential clean, renewable energy generation.”

The Oscar-winning actor has been a strong advocate of fighting climate change and preserving wildlife, and his recent documentary, Before the Flood, addresses the peril that the world faces because of climate change.

DiCaprio met with Ivanka Trump a few days ago and presented her with a copy of the film.

Read more: http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2016/12/08/after-doco-success-dicaprio-meets-trump-talk-climate-change

LDF is the Leonardo DiCaprio Foundation.

I don’t know exactly what DiCaprio presented to President-elect Trump, but something called the “LDF Climate Action Plan” is available here.

The main points of the LDF plan;

  • GOAL 1: Net zero carbon emissions by 2050
  • GOAL 2: Average carbon price of $25 per tonne (USD) by 2020
  • GOAL 3: Zero net loss of forests by 2020 and protection of 30% of the oceans by 2030
  • GOAL 4: 100% climate literacy by 2020
  • GOAL 5: 40% more efficient by 2025 compared to 2015 (this appears to be related to efficient use of energy)
  • GOAL 6: 90% reduction of all waste by 2025
  • GOAL 7: 100% of all energy generation from renewables by 2050
  • GOAL 8: Net zero transportation emissions by 2050

Like a lot of DiCaprio offerings, the plan is long on big ideas and short on detail. The plan mentions the word “jobs” exactly twice. The following quote is telling about the kind of green jobs DiCaprio expects us ordinary folk to do, while he jets about above our heads.

… Installing building insulation or rooftop solar panels; converting decomposing waste into new products and clean, local energy resources; and restoring forests are just a few examples of how we can create millions of new jobs and make our communities healthier and more equitable, while making the globe a little cooler at the same time. …

If I get a choice I’d rather go for one of the forest planting jobs rather than the decomposing waste or rooftop solar jobs. Less chance of being electrocuted or falling from a height, and a lot less smelly.

In case you haven’t seen the DiCaprio climate documentary, I’ve created a 5 minute summary, to save you having to watch the entire film.

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charles nelson
December 8, 2016 2:35 am

It’s great to see these people crawling back. It must take some nerve and a very flexible spine to turn on a dime like Lenny just did. What do you reckon…De Caprio for President in ’32?

Greg
Reply to  charles nelson
December 8, 2016 3:21 am

What U-turn was that? Just because he met Trump to explore possible common ground of agreement does not mean it’s a U-turn. I’m not a Leo fan but if you want to criticise someone, especially in such a disparaging way, at least try to make sense.

wws
Reply to  Greg
December 8, 2016 4:55 am

He was probably referring to this news story from early October:
“Referencing Trump’s claims that climate change is not real, (Dicaprio) said, “The scientific consensus is in and the argument is over. If you do not believe in climate change, you do not believe in facts or in science or empirical truths and therefore, in my humble opinion, should not be allowed to hold public office.”
Before a screening of his film Before the Flood, he led a climate change panel. The film will be released on October 21, just before the 2016 election. He hopes the film will make people more aware of climate change and hopes it will sway their votes away from Trump.”
http://www.mediaite.com/election-2016/leonardo-dicaprio-donald-trump-should-not-hold-public-office/
and now he’s standing in front of Trump, hat in hand. I think that can be called a U-Turn.

PiperPaul
Reply to  Greg
December 8, 2016 6:15 am

“The scientific consensus is in and the argument is over. If you do not believe in climate change, you do not believe in facts or in science or empirical truths and therefore, in my humble opinion, should not be allowed to hold public office.”
DiCaprio is an ACTOR.

RockyRoad
Reply to  Greg
December 8, 2016 6:43 am

I hope President-Elect Trump tells Leonardo to cut the crap out–Leo has done nothing but tell lies about the role CO2 plays in our climate. And that’s the truth.

Goldrider
Reply to  Greg
December 8, 2016 7:14 am

Actors, football players, comedians, “celebrities” are NOT qualified to be setting Government policy on energy or anything else. They have NO scientific, economic, or political credentials whatsoever and we need to REJECT the standing they think they have as “thought leaders.” The American people have proven recent they are just not that stupid, and perfectly capable of thinking for themselves without “personalities” like Leo to do it for them. Stop giving all these people a bully pulpit and the clicks they crave, and maybe they’ll go back to making so-called “films” and “music” and whatever they do best.

afonzarelli
Reply to  Greg
December 8, 2016 8:12 am

Maybe trump owes him a cabinet position. After all, it was the backlash to doofusses like him that put trump over the top (way to go leo)…

Henning Nielsen
Reply to  Greg
December 8, 2016 8:16 am

Greg
What? “…to explore possible common ground of agreement…” As if di Caprio was a leader of a foreign country? Or an important politician? There’s no common ground to share standing on, until his planet-saving ego has been deflated. Much.

george e. smith
Reply to  Greg
December 8, 2016 11:20 am

When Lennie stops jet-setting all over the globe for the UN, maybe he could get a real job to show he’s sincere.
G

Duke Silver
Reply to  Greg
December 8, 2016 12:19 pm

If Leo were serious he would be taking the “I’m smarter than everyone who disagrees with me” tour to the UN IPCC but instead he turned to boot-licking a politician whom he has previously described as unfit for leadership. I think he’ll find the ‘love me cause I’m Leo’ shtick may be less effective on an actual businessman than a political scientist like Al Gore.

Phil's Dad
Reply to  Greg
December 8, 2016 5:25 pm

I hope they genuinely achieve Goal 4. Then they would immediately scrap Goals 1,2, 7 and 8.

Reply to  Greg
December 8, 2016 8:59 pm

Di Caprio and his elitist, leftist, ignorant allies have the problem of believing and promoting the lie that 97% of “some people”, perhaps social scientists, etc. ‘believe’ in the leftist BS of CAGW. They assume that the common person should just simply accept as a fact that the “scientists” must be believed as correct and truthful and that we are just dumb, ignorant peons to be manipulated to their whim.
I am enjoying seeing the liberal elites and the MSM melt down and seeing their hypocrisy and idiocy bubbling to the surface. Trump gave the common man permission to question the BS put out there by the leftists by his irreverence for all their crappola on his way to the Presidency. By his “objectionable” way of speaking, he brought to light in many peoples minds, the hypocrisy, lies and BS of the left. He gave many people permission to say, “you are full of sh*t and I’m seeing now it and done with it”. He was a genius in how he pulled it off.
I don’t need to be a “scientist” to understand a good explanation for how things work. Many of these CAGW promoters act as if most people are dumb and ignorant and assume people should just, simply believe them because they say so. It appears the ignorance is on them if that is their belief.

Michael 2
Reply to  Greg
December 9, 2016 8:02 am

I’m trying to remember if Leonardo was one of the celebrities that promised to go to Canada if Trump was elected.
Evidently not: http://townhall.com/tipsheet/catherinedunn/2016/09/08/these-10-celebrities-say-theyll-leave-the-country-if-trump-is-elected-n2215391
L.D. is the guy warning of sea level rise with the expensive (planned) resort at sea level in Belize.

Reply to  Greg
December 10, 2016 7:23 am

Sorry, Greg, but you may Google search for:
“Leonardo DiCaprio: climate change deniers should not hold public office – In what has been interpreted by some as an attack on Donald Trump, actor makes remarks in a speech at the White House”
And this article in the Guardian should make it clear to you why a DiCaprio with a spine wouldn’t be meeting Trump now. He’s made ludicrous claims both about the climate and about the way how the U.S. politics should work – and he’s obviously made a U-turn on the latter because he suddenly acknowledges by the meeting that Trump’s coming presidency is legally fine.

Henry Galt
Reply to  charles nelson
December 8, 2016 7:04 am

We don’t want millions of ‘jobs’ connected to ‘renewable’ energy in any way shape or form. How dumb do you have to be to not see where said jobs’ wages would come from?

ken
Reply to  Henry Galt
December 8, 2016 7:41 am

++++++++++

Reply to  Henry Galt
December 8, 2016 7:50 am

How about jobs building 4th gen MSRs http://www.egeneration.org for emission free 24/7 cheaper than coal energy?

rogerthesurf
Reply to  Henry Galt
December 8, 2016 2:07 pm

Hear hear!!!

rogerthesurf
Reply to  Henry Galt
December 8, 2016 2:09 pm

I was referring to Henry Gaults comment. Cheers Roger

Trebla
Reply to  charles nelson
December 8, 2016 10:53 am

Net zero transportation emissions by 2050. Wow! Sound so cool and easy! Let’s see … a 100,000 ton container ship sailing from San Francisco to Hong Kong … and that would be done how? Sails? Giant batteries? How about new green jobs filled by happy oarsmen with their giant paddles protruding from the hull? Could Lennie please fill me in on how this trick would be accomplished?

Reply to  Trebla
December 8, 2016 12:16 pm

Al Gore knows it will need to be through trade-offs and very creative accounting … with a small percentage (vast profit) going to him or somebody that he is associated with.
LeNardo … is he that stupid?, OR is he a just as big a weasel as Gore (and he thinks the rest of the world is THAT stupid?)
(how many trees would LeNardo have pay others to plant so he can fly across the Atlantic 19 times next year, and still call it net zero?)

schitzree
Reply to  Trebla
December 8, 2016 5:02 pm

I find the whole replanting forest part to be laughable. The first world countries are ALREADY seeing renewed growth of forests. The only forests the world is losing these days are the ones being clearcut for biofuel plantations or to be shipped off to DRAX.

rogerthesurf
Reply to  charles nelson
December 8, 2016 2:01 pm

I dont see any jobs in this what appears to be a very shonky plan labeled LDF.
As an economist I can see economic collapse, unemployment and starvation.
Where do these guys get their ideas from?
Cheers
Roger
http://www.rogerfromnewzealand.wordpress.com

nigelf
Reply to  rogerthesurf
December 9, 2016 3:51 am

The Communist Manifesto.

george e. smith
Reply to  charles nelson
December 8, 2016 3:31 pm

He’s such an inconsequential little twerp; how did he ever survive and get so cheeky ??
In the space of just one breath it seems that Donald Trump has actually accomplished more real things than diCapriotti can ever imagine doing.
He’s just a movie actor after all, and these days, you can make perfectly good movie actors out of ones and zeros on a laptop.
Prima donnas, are a dime a dozen these days in the entertainer field.
G

1saveenergy
Reply to  george e. smith
December 8, 2016 3:48 pm

“Prima donnas, are a dime a dozen these days .”
I’ll take 1/2 a dozen, with fries & brown sauce.

noaaprogrammer
Reply to  george e. smith
December 8, 2016 7:22 pm

… in a blanket…

Reply to  george e. smith
December 8, 2016 8:20 pm

DiCaprio met with Ivanka Trump a few days ago and presented her with a copy of the film.
I guess he must have millions of unsold ones of that film. I think I watched it, I think, hmmm I’ll go ask my wife….. we did for the first 2 minutes apparently.

catweazle666
Reply to  asybot
December 9, 2016 12:57 pm

“I guess he must have millions of unsold ones of that film”
A friend of mine collects things like that and hangs them on strings on his allotment as bird scarers. Maybe he should get in touch.
That’s about all it’s fit for.
Or perhaps it might be useful as a coaster…

ClimateOtter
December 8, 2016 2:38 am

How do you ‘preserve wildlife’ by wiping out (tens of) thousands of acres of wildlife habitat for a handful of wind turbines?

Griff
Reply to  ClimateOtter
December 8, 2016 2:57 am

wind turbines don’t wipe out wildlife if any attention at all is given to planning when constructing them.

David Smith
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 3:03 am

They don’t do a good job when it comes to birds and bats.

Greg
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 3:18 am

When you stop driving and tape up all you windows and euthanased all the cats in your neighbourhood, come back and tell us all about just how many “bats” and birds are being killed.
This lame argument just gets spouted all the time by people who have other reasons for not liking wind turbines. Just be honest, that are good arguments to be made.

ClimateOtter
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 3:27 am

They cut down an eagle’s nest in our area for a wind turbine, griffy. They said they would ‘relocate’ it but IT DOESN’T WORK THAT WAY FOR THE EAGLES. They won’t come back.
Ripping the tops off of mountains for wind turbines is wildlife habitat destruction.
Ripping roads through national parks in the US, Scotland, the Netherlands and Germany is wildlife habitat destruction.
Pounding wind turbine foundations into the ocean floor KILLS dolphins.
But I guess so long as you ignore it, it isn’t happening, right griffy?

Perry
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 3:52 am

Griff, you don’t half write some rubbish.
They are built where the winds blow. Birds fly where the winds blow.The only attention to planning necessary is the planning in order to decommission these bird choppers & make their constructors & owners pay for the complete removal of everything, including the massive concrete bases. FFFFFade away.

phaedo
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 3:58 am

“wind turbines don’t wipe out wildlife if any attention at all is given to planning when constructing them.”
What an extraordinary admission Griff.

Toneb
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 4:11 am

And how much wildlife was killed in regard to the Gulf disaster….
http://ocean.si.edu/gulf-oil-spill
The Alaska spill ….
http://arcticcircle.uconn.edu/SEEJ/Alaska/miller2.htm
Just for instance.

Alx
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 4:12 am

Yeah when they clear land for solar farms that does not impact any wildlife either. Face it, wildlife is the last consideration, if any, when planning wind or solar farms. Which to me is not the issue, the issue is the hypocrisy.

papiertigre
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 4:15 am

http://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/bald-eagle-attacks-trump-photo-shoot-time-magazine-4.jpg
You see that eagle on Donald Trump’s arm? Look closely at it’s left wing.
It was maimed by a wind turbine.
This picture was taken on the day Obama lost in court attempting to extend a general amnesty for wind farms in the USA to kill protected bird species over the entire 30 year service life of the turbine.
Between a visit with the eagle and a visit by decaprio, which one do you think President Trump will remember longer?

Tim Hammond
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 4:35 am

“When you stop driving and tape up all you windows and euthanased all the cats in your neighbourhood, come back and tell us all about just how many “bats” and birds are being killed.”
What? So I shouldn’t bother about saving tigers and rhinos until all animals are being saved?
That’s your plan?

Pierre DM
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 4:55 am

Griff said “wind turbines don’t wipe out wildlife if any attention at all is given to planning when constructing them.”
The same can be said for Nukes and pipelines

Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 5:05 am

Griff confuses small birds with birds of prey, the usual pathetic green fast one they pull
http://irishenergyblog.blogspot.ie/2016/01/impact-of-wind-turbines-on-birds-of.html

Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 5:44 am

At the Granite Reliable wind project in New Hampshire, where all the significant project are on mountain ridges, there was concern that the access road would provide a convenient highway for coyotes and other predators to get between the low and high areas. The American Marten, a high altitude species got the most attention and concern, see http://www.nhsec.nh.gov/projects/2008-04/documents/090312usdoi_letter.pdf and http://www.nhsec.nh.gov/projects/2008-04/documents/081219_nhfg.pdf
A condition of the project was that the access road would be narrowed to 12 feet post-construction, though I never understood how this would help anything. After construction, driveshaft bearings began to fail prematurely, leading the project owners to ask that they widen the access road permanently to 16 feet, see http://www.nhsec.nh.gov/projects/2014-03/documents/150203decision.pdf
Personally, I don’t see how any of the road width changes impacts access by predators. There may be an impact to martens as they are very sensitive to fragment habitat. I haven’t studied the situation closely.
At any rate, Griff’s claim is bogus in many directions. A lot of attention was directed at this during planning, and there’s still impact to the area wildlife.
There are also claims that noise and infrasound drive deer away from the Hoosac wind project in western Massachusetts, that’s something that might be worth investigating too.

Greg
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 6:21 am

What? So I shouldn’t bother about saving tigers and rhinos until all animals are being saved?

No, it’s more like don’t campaign to save a few tigers being shot by Indian villages trying to protect themselves if you are buying chinese medicine made from tigers or have a tiger skin rug in front of your fireplace.
Cats, windows and cars kill orders of magnitude more birds than wind turbines ( and Ivanpah ) . It should be avoided but turbine kill is an ingenuous argument rolled by people for whom that is not the real reason they object to wind energy. Be honest what the objection is.
That said I see no reason why badly though out wind or solar farms should have a free pass on killing protected species or idiotic massacre of wild geese because they have not considered documented, known migratory paths.
My impression is that it’s more likely the other extreme now with all the fuss about not being allowed to move desert tortoise a few hundred metres when putting solar panels in the desert.

RockyRoad
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 6:45 am

So Griff-_why build structures that are ugly, aren’t cost effective, and have no reclamation bonding requirements so when they become bone yards, the only people that make any money on the project are the lawyers who fight over who has to clean up the mess?
Are you a lawyer? (I only ask that because you must have some vested interest in pushing such boondoggles.)

Latitude
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 7:06 am

Never a more perfect example of “liberal logic”….
Bad behavior justifies more bad behavior.

MarkW
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 7:06 am

Very few were killed in the Gulf blow out.
There never would have been an Alaska spill had not you green terrorists prevented the building of a pipeline to carry the same oil.
PS: Exxon tried to fire the captain, but he used ADA to keep his job.

MarkW
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 7:07 am

Tim, the point is, until you stop doing what you are doing, don’t whine about what other people are doing.

MarkW
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 7:10 am

Greg: I’ve never seen a housecat take down a bald eagle. Have you?
The birds being killed by cats aren’t endangered, beyond that, cats are part of the natural landscape.
PS: Sorry Tim, I misread the point Greg was trying to make.

papiertigre
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 7:12 am
Chris
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 7:25 am

Coal processing in the US these days involves mountaintop removal, which is hugely destructive to habitat for birds and all kinds of wildlife. Yet not a peep here about that (pun fully intended). Oh, and cats kill 10,000 times as many birds as wind turbines – talk about misplaced anger. http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/09/15/wind-turbines-kill-fewer-birds-than-cell-towers-cats/15683843/

Jenn Runion
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 7:27 am

Griff: “wind turbines don’t wipe out wildlife if any attention at all is given to planning when constructing them.”
BULL. Go tell that to the people and animals that have to live with the slag lake in China made from providing materials to your precious wind turbines.
Tell you what, let’s just build your neighborhood’s power generation worth of wind turbines in your backyard and on your roof…then you can do a daily dead body count to back up your statement.
See? It’s all, “over there” thinking….let someone else take care of it kind of thing. The problem is, the person that is “over there” is saying…..what the heck dude? You want this? Go do it on your own lawn.

Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 7:40 am

Please put up a giant wind turbine in your back yard and get back to us.

Brook HURD
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 7:48 am

Griff,
Since you are a proponent of wind energy, can you please explain to me why every windfarm that I drive by has a significant percentage of rotors not spinning?
I have noticed this in Germany, the Netherlands, and in the western US. Since some are turning and some are not, it is not lack of wind. The non spinning rotors indicate a rather high failure rate. Is this a maintenance issue, a design issue or both?

hunter
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 8:51 am

Griff,
Drive through West Texas sometime. If you have and still say what you claim about windmills not wrecking the environment, you are a bald faced liar.

Latitude
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 10:00 am

cats are part of the natural landscape……
Well if that’s the case…..I for one am damn glad we didn’t domesticate wolverines

MarkW
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 10:14 am

Chris, I love it when you alarmists go off and get all mad. Meanwhile going out of your way to display your ignornance.
Yes, mountain top remove does distrub bird habitat, but the remediation when finished restores that habitat.
As to cats, when was the last time a house cat killed an eagle.
Are you really this committed to demonstrating your inability to make a logical argument. One that is actually related to the subject at hand?

MarkW
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 10:16 am

Latitude, had we domesticated wolverines, by this time they would look an awful lot like cats and dogs.
Please look at what the wild ancestors of both cats and dogs were look.

Bryan A
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 10:29 am

Greg
December 8, 2016 at 6:21 am

What? So I shouldn’t bother about saving tigers and rhinos until all animals are being saved?
No, it’s more like don’t campaign to save a few tigers being shot by Indian villages trying to protect themselves if you are buying chinese medicine made from tigers or have a tiger skin rug in front of your fireplace.
Cats, windows and cars kill orders of magnitude more birds than wind turbines ( and Ivanpah ) . It should be avoided but turbine kill is an ingenuous argument rolled by people for whom that is not the real reason they object to wind energy. Be honest what the objection is.
That said I see no reason why badly though out wind or solar farms should have a free pass on killing protected species or idiotic massacre of wild geese because they have not considered documented, known migratory paths.
My impression is that it’s more likely the other extreme now with all the fuss about not being allowed to move desert tortoise a few hundred metres when putting solar panels in the desert.

Greg,
Think about this arguement…
What ie the current ratio of cats to wind turbines? Of course cats kill more songbirds than wind turbines.
What is the current ratio of Windows to wind turbines? Of course cWindows kill more birds than wind turbines.
What is the current ratio of cars to wind turbines? Of course cars kill more birds than wind turbines.
It is a little thing called exposure to specific hazard.
To supply the same ammount of power that a 2000MW nuclear reactor can 24/7 you would need to vastly increase potential exposure
For example. a typical 2 unit nuclear reactor produces between 2000MW & 2200MW of electricity.
The Altamont pass wind farn has nameplate capacity of 576MW with 4930 turbines but only produces 125MW daily average.
To produce an equal ammount of power, the wind farm would require 16 times as many turbines or 78,880 wind turbines covering many tens of thousands of acres of habitat. Then to create battery storage supply for times when the wind doesn’t blow within the limits, you would require a minimum three times more capacity for storage charging or over 315 thousand turbines.
An excerpt from WIKI

The small turbines used at Altamont are dangerous to various raptors that hunt California Ground Squirrels in the area. 1300 raptors are killed annually, among them 70 golden eagles, which are federally protected; in total, 4700 birds are killed annually.[4] Overall there has been an 80% decline in golden eagles in Northern California, with no golden eagles nesting near the facility, although it is a prime habitat.

If wind turbines were at the exposure level necessary to offset just a single nuclear reactor facility it would have the potential to kill/maim 1300 x 48 (16 x 3) 62,400 raptors and a total of 225,600 birds.
So, yes, cats, cars, & windows kill more birds but thar are FAR MORE PREVALENT in the world today than wind turbines are

Robertvd
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 11:45 am

Any idea how big the mice and rat population would be without cats?
http://www.animatedimages.org/data/media/1609/animated-tom-and-jerry-image-0009.gif

Bryan A
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 12:08 pm

Just an FYI,
Those afore mentioned Bird Mortality Rates equates to just about 1 Bird per Turbine per year.
You drive a car, Do you hit 1 bird per year? Every year? (Highly unlikely, Have you ever hit a bird?)
You have a house with windows? Do each of your windows kill 1 bird per year? Every year? (Probably zero since you’ve lived there)
You have a cat? Does your cat kill 1 bird per year? Every year? (Probably more than 1 if an outdoor cat)

Latitude
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 2:09 pm

Mark…you lost me on that one
I thought you said cats were part of the natural landscape…
….then there’s nothing natural about them
I don’t think cats should be outside loose at all.

Bryan A
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 2:18 pm

We had a cat once that was an outdoor cat. Never once brought home a bird carcas but would, almost nightly, hunt sewer rats. We would wake up many mornings to discover 2 or 3 deposited on our dorstep from the Garage to the Kitchen. We would always be sure to praise her for her skill and then shut the door. She would eat one and we would throw the remainder away. She was always good for up to 5 rats a week

catweazle666
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 3:12 pm

“wind turbines don’t wipe out wildlife if any attention at all is given to planning when constructing them.”
LIAR.

bit chilly
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 3:17 pm

i prefer burning biomass griff. as long as the biomass used is decrapio and his ilk. some of the greatest hyopcrites the planet has ever endured.

papiertigre
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 4:24 pm

the most common bird in North America
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_wren

House wrens are feisty and pugnacious animals considering their tiny size. They are known to occasionally destroy the eggs of other birds nesting in their territory by puncturing the eggshell. Females that sang more songs to conspecifics that were simulated by playback lost fewer eggs to ovicide by other wrens. Female bird song in this species is therefore thought to have a function in competition and is not only displayed by males.[9] They are also known to fill up other birds’ nests within its territory with sticks to make them unusable.

House wrens kill more house wrens than cats do. Who knew right?

Analitik
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 5:20 pm

says

Coal processing in the US these days involves mountaintop removal, which is hugely destructive to habitat for birds and all kinds of wildlife. Yet not a peep here about that (pun fully intended).

Right and how much mountaintop area is used for coal processing vs wind farms?

Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 5:46 pm

Guess no one is paying attention, hey griffter

EJ
Reply to  Griff
December 9, 2016 4:56 am

Obviously, Mr. Griffmyster know’eth zero about the killings of bats by turbines.
Do you, Griffmyster?
How do wind turbines kill bats Mr. Griffmister?
I know the answer, and I’m actually surprised someone hasn’t mentioned it.?
Clue #1 for griffy – it’s not by flying into a turbine blade.

Jenn Runion
Reply to  Griff
December 9, 2016 6:35 am

What is wrong with cats? “They kill songbirds”…right? So what you are really saying is that all cats should be removed from the natural landscape because you deem songbirds to have more value. Ridiculous argument for 2 reasons…the first is that birds kill more birds than cats, and the 2nd is that cats are not the primary predator of birds.
As for getting rid of cats….yea, they tried that during the Beubonic (sp?) Plague. Guess what? The rat population exploded and spread the plague faster. Rats and mice carry a multitude of diseases and cats (along with other small predatory mammals) are very, very good at killing them.
Cats also hunt, kill and eat a variety of nasty insects that love to nest in your home.
Cats have value, lots of value, which is why humans domesticated them in the first place.
My dog did more damage to the songbird population than my cat ever did. He liked to decapitate them and leave the bodies. My cat on the other hand keeps my house and surrounding yard free of mice, voles and rabies carrying small mammals. My house is also free of poisonous insects…below the ceiling line where the house spiders’ territory lies.
Nature is not sterile and does not give priority value of 1 species over another because they sing. Every species has a predator and prey. And if you’d bother getting over your egotistical ideas of value, you’d come to realize most prey have a lot of predators. And those predators are prey themselves….including humans.

secryn
Reply to  Griff
December 9, 2016 3:38 pm

Griff, I wish you were right. Unfortunately, wind turbines threaten the very survival of the bald eagle species. Over 33,000 eagles have been killed since 1997, mostly by wind turbines. The carcasses are taken to a “Denver Eagle Repository” (sounds crazy but it’s true). If you want to get information about this facility, good luck, because in 1999 the Clinton administration, working with the even-then highly-subsidized wind industry, convinced congress to revise the Freedom of Information Act. All data concerning the deaths of eagles is now considered a trade secret of the wind industry and can not legally be released to the public.
This past May, the Obama administration’s Fish and Wildlife Service (which used to protect eagles) announced (astoundingly) that it would allow wind energy companies to legally kill or injure up to 4200 bald eagles per year without any penalty. No other industry or individual is allowed to kill even one bald eagle, ever.
Don’t want to believe it? The linked article is the first in a series expanding on what I just wrote:
https://www.masterresource.org/category/cuisinarts-of-the-air/
About 10 other related articles can be found here:
https://www.masterresource.org/category/cuisinarts-of-the-air/
For 40 years, the government has invested massively in both dollars and credibility in the wind industry. Like the poker matches shown on TV, they’ve put so much money into the pot with such a lousy hand, the only way they can win is keep betting and hope everybody else folds.

Krudd Gillard of the Commondebt of Australia
December 8, 2016 2:41 am

Love it, another meeting. Trump meets with them, then the next day he bazookas them with his next appointment.
If only we had a Trump in Australia…

Greg
Reply to  Krudd Gillard of the Commondebt of Australia
December 8, 2016 3:26 am

“GOAL 4: 100% climate literacy by 2020”
Thought police impose marshal law by 2020.
All “illiterates” are send to special interment camps for “re-education”. Haven’t we seen this somewhere before?

Harry Passfield
Reply to  Greg
December 8, 2016 3:59 am

What is “Climate literacy”?

phaedo
Reply to  Greg
December 8, 2016 4:06 am

Harry Passfield: What is “Climate literacy”?
It’s called Common Core.

Alx
Reply to  Greg
December 8, 2016 4:21 am

Yes we have seen this before. Literacy as in requiring knowledge in areas such as basic science, math, or history is a worthwhile goal. “Climate” in this usage really represents an ideology. Requiring literacy in “climate” suggests requiring obedience to an ideology. That is scary sh!t.

Tim Hammond
Reply to  Greg
December 8, 2016 4:36 am

I assume that refers to climate scientists….
Means by then they have to actually understand the climate.

RH
Reply to  Greg
December 8, 2016 5:51 am

“Climate literacy” has been force-fed to children for a generation. Those children have grown up and seen for themselves that none of the scary doomsday predictions have actually occurred.

MarkW
Reply to  Greg
December 8, 2016 7:11 am

Climate literacy means everyone agrees with me. Those who don’t are sent to the nearest gulag.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Greg
December 8, 2016 10:26 am

Climate literacy is the solution to climate emotionality as displayed by believers in the church of omnipotent greenhouse in carbon. The green movement won’t survive if all are given a complete education of the multiple forces which influence climate and the fundamental rules of science.

Reply to  Greg
December 8, 2016 12:44 pm

“Climate Literacy” within 37 months.
I’ll volunteer to proctor whenever Gore and LeNardo sit for the literacy test.

JohnKnight
Reply to  Greg
December 8, 2016 1:32 pm

I think it’s *imaginationalism* that’s the real problem, Pop . . believing what the imagination generates. The emotions that are stimulated when a person is taught/encouraged to treat the imaginary as if the sensed, are just a natural response to the images that have been indoctrinated into the people who have been trained to treat them as if reality.
I think part of the psychological assault on humanity we are discussing, is the scapegoating of emotions, so that those whose detect the assault, will tend to blame the victim, so to speak, rather than those encouraging people to treat the imagined as if the real. If what those people are imaging were real, the emotions make perfect sense, and I sure as hell don’t want to live in psychopath world . . which I believe is the “final” destination our would-be masters have in mind.

Reply to  Greg
December 8, 2016 5:29 pm

“GOAL 4: 100% climate literacy by 2020”
That’s going to be rough, those are alarmists seem pretty set in their ways.

Editor
Reply to  Greg
December 8, 2016 7:32 pm

“Climate Literacy”… does that mean having to correctly answer a series of questions in order to be allowed to vote? This type of tactic has been used before https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literacy_test#Voting

From the 1890s to the 1960s, many state governments in the Southern United States administered literacy tests to prospective voters purportedly to test their literacy in order to vote. In practice, these tests were intended to disenfranchise racial minorities. Southern state legislatures employed literacy tests as part of the voter registration process starting in the late 19th century. Literacy tests, along with poll taxes and extra-legal intimidation,[2] were used to deny suffrage to African Americans. The first formal voter literacy tests were introduced in 1890. At first, whites were generally exempted from the literacy test if they could meet alternate requirements that in practice excluded blacks, such as a grandfather clause or a finding of “good moral character.”

Reply to  Krudd Gillard of the Commondebt of Australia
December 8, 2016 7:01 am

Maybe Donald is giving Leonard his first lesson in climate literacy. 🙂

ken
Reply to  Krudd Gillard of the Commondebt of Australia
December 8, 2016 7:47 am

I hope Trump doesn’t fold. I am sorry to say I don’t trust him any more than I trust Obama. But I am a bit hopeful that he will follow up. His EPA appointment is promising.

John F. Hultquist
Reply to  ken
December 8, 2016 2:18 pm

With regard to O., just what were you trusting him to do that he hasn’t accomplished?
Nevermind.
You are “hopeful that he [Trump] will follow up.
He is neither dictator nor king. I am hopeful that he works with others and respects the constitution.
Here is an interesting comment from the WSJ’s Daniel Henninger:
Donald Trump treats the truth as only one of several props he’s willing to use to achieve an effect. Truth sits on his workbench alongside hyperbole, sentimentality, bluster and just kidding. Use as needed.
Unlike the above comment, many in the leftist media have no clue about Trump. I don’t like some of his positions but I do like that he has ideas (in contrast to HRC and others) and how to go about changing what he can. If he works with Congress, one should not then crucify him for not doing all you think he should.

urederra
December 8, 2016 2:48 am

I hope Tump does not fall in the green trap.
The Green Mafia is acting quick, you have to admit. First, Al Goreone, now Leonardo Di Marzio are trying to keep their green business. This does not look good.

RH
Reply to  urederra
December 8, 2016 6:09 am

I don’t think you need to be worried about Trump being swayed by these guys. Look who he nominated to lead the EPA: http://www.climatedepot.com/2016/12/07/trump-ignores-gores-advice-instead-picks-skeptic-to-head-epa-dismantle-climate-agenda/

urederra
Reply to  RH
December 8, 2016 6:48 am

Thanks, I feel better now.
But I still remember the BEST temperature data set fiasco.
I hope this time nobody changes their minds.

Bryan A
Reply to  RH
December 8, 2016 12:13 pm

Yes B E S T is what happens when their BEST just isn’t good enough

G. Karst
Reply to  urederra
December 8, 2016 6:33 am

I think it is important to send a skeptic delegation, to Trump, to counter all the BS, that has recently been foisted onto the Donald. We need to demonstrate to DT, that the skeptical view IS the only scientific based view and that we are scientists of significant numbers.
He needs to know that when the green demonstrations start, he will have our full and vocal support. It will take great courage on his part. GK

RH
Reply to  G. Karst
December 8, 2016 6:55 am

Trump appears to be very secure with his skeptical position, and not prone to bullying from the left. Let’s wait and see who Trump nominates for Under Secretary of Commerce for Oceans and Atmosphere. He has nominated Pruitt for EPA, Ross for Commerce, so I’m really looking forward to seeing who Dr. Sullivan’s replacement will be.

hunter
Reply to  G. Karst
December 8, 2016 8:52 am

+10, G. Karst.
I would help fund it. It is long past time for the green mafia to get some formal pushback.

John Harmsworth
Reply to  G. Karst
December 8, 2016 3:04 pm

Just a Canuck here but I think it is absolutely critical that Trump understands that this climate change fairy tale stands between him and his desires to unshackle the economy. and secure his legacy.

Chris
Reply to  urederra
December 8, 2016 7:35 am

What green business? Al Gore made his money off Apple stock and the sale of Current TV. Di Caprio from movies. Neither made money of any magnitude from green investments.

hunter
Reply to  Chris
December 8, 2016 8:55 am

Chris,
Gore has made a fortune lobbying for so-called green businesses seeking government regs and contracts to subsidize and pay for their business models.
Please stop lying.

Chris
Reply to  Chris
December 8, 2016 10:04 am

Hunter, stop lying. Just as I stated, Gore made the vast majority of his wealth from his Apple shares and stake in Current TV. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-05-06/gore-is-romney-rich-with-200-million-after-bush-defeat

Bryan A
Reply to  Chris
December 8, 2016 12:17 pm

Gore made money off Current TV by selling it to Islam influenced Arab owned Al-Jazeera and partially funded by the ruling family of Qatar

Joel Snider
Reply to  Chris
December 8, 2016 12:19 pm

Well, along with oil and tobacco.

catweazle666
Reply to  Chris
December 8, 2016 3:22 pm

Gore and Ken Lay of Enron (remember them, Chris?) were the prime movers behind the entire carbon credits racket.
http://humanevents.com/2007/10/03/the-money-and-connections-behind-al-gores-carbon-crusade/
And then there was the Chicago Carbon Exchange…
http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2013/11/03/blood-and-gore-making-a-killing-on-anti-carbon-investment-hype/#674dbff63750
You really haven’t a clue, have you?

Reply to  Chris
December 8, 2016 6:04 pm

Al made no money on his propagada hit piece?

Reply to  urederra
December 8, 2016 7:58 am

The Green Mafia …
BINGO!

LewSkannen
December 8, 2016 2:48 am

Great!
The Donald can offer to spend all Di Caprios money wisely on Green Energy. Until it is gone.
That would be a change eh! A government squandering a socialists money!

LewSkannen
December 8, 2016 2:51 am

Interestingly Arch Climate ‘Denier’ Villain Tony Abbott (ex-Australian Prime Minister) initiated a tree planting program pretty much as Di Caprio demands. This was about four years ago and only this week it was terminated by our new partially-elected pseudo-conservative crypto-green PM, Turnbull.

Reply to  LewSkannen
December 8, 2016 8:44 pm

Lew have you got a link to that I am serious because it would be another small nail in Turnbullsh!t’s coffin.

Roger Knights
December 8, 2016 2:58 am

A major motivation for the meeting might be that Trump promised Ivanka he’d meet DiCaprio, in order to get her off his back.

Reply to  Roger Knights
December 8, 2016 8:47 pm

Or Depricks excuse was so he could actually meet a real woman.

MikeH
December 8, 2016 3:06 am

From the list above:
“GOAL 4: 100% climate literacy by 2020”
I’m sure the course materials would be hand picked by their top experts in the field, no need for dissenting view points when the goal is so high, too much distraction.
As for using the term Literacy, I believe that when the Dept. of Education was started by Pres. Carter, one of the goals is to increase literacy in the USA, I believe we have the same level today as we did back in the late 70’s, so much for throwing $$ at a cause and having the federal government in charge of it.

commieBob
Reply to  MikeH
December 8, 2016 3:16 am

That stood out for me too. Maybe they could implement a young pioneer movement.

Alx
Reply to  MikeH
December 8, 2016 4:24 am

Yes and the war on drugs, poverty, etc also did not work out well if not complete failures.
Socially, the federal government is much better at creating cash intensive bureaucracies than solving problems.

MarkW
Reply to  MikeH
December 8, 2016 7:18 am

It’s been over 50 years since the government started it’s war on poverty.
Poverty is winning.

Reply to  MarkW
December 8, 2016 8:49 pm

Wasn’t that started by LBJ? in 64?

MarkW
Reply to  MarkW
December 9, 2016 8:10 am

Which would make it 52 years old.
You could argue that the socialist measures that FDR implemented in order to prolong the Great Depression were also implemented to fight poverty, even though that term wasn’t used.

hunter
Reply to  MikeH
December 8, 2016 8:53 am

Climate literacy from a cliamte kook like Leonardo means hard core indoctrination and forced-fed propaganda- and of course total censorship of skeptics.

December 8, 2016 3:08 am

Isn’t this the same plan that Obama tried? Where are all of those jobs?

Paul
Reply to  Bobby Davis
December 8, 2016 4:52 am

“Where are all of those jobs?”
At the EPA

MarkW
Reply to  Bobby Davis
December 8, 2016 7:19 am

Government employment is way up in the era of Obama.
Elsewhere, not so much.

MarkW
Reply to  MarkW
December 8, 2016 10:18 am

Last time I checked, Obama took office in 2008. Why should I compare today to 1990?

juanslayton@charter.net
Reply to  MarkW
December 8, 2016 10:28 am

Because the “era of Obama” started in 2008, and continues up until today. The comparison is between the “era of Reagan” where government employment was HIGHER than the current “era.”

MarkW
Reply to  MarkW
December 8, 2016 11:34 am

So you are arguing that government employment did not increase under Obama because it increased even more at some point in the past.
Sigh.

Roger Knights
Reply to  MarkW
December 8, 2016 11:53 am

Many government employees have been replaced by contractors at a higher cost, especially in the Defense department.

juanslayton@charter.net
Reply to  MarkW
December 8, 2016 2:22 pm

No MarkW, I’m arguing that government employment was less during the Obama era than during the Regan era. So when you say it is “way up” you are flat wrong, it’s actually “way less” than in the past.

MarkW
Reply to  MarkW
December 9, 2016 8:11 am

I love it when you socialists try to move the goal posts.
My claim was that government employment increased while Obama was president. Something that you have admitted. Just crawl away with what little dignity you have left.

December 8, 2016 3:12 am

You’ve got to admire Leonardo for the courage of his convictions: bicycling from Hollywood to Washington and back is a major athletic and ascetic undertaking. DiCaprio has never subscribed to the Harrison Ford / Stephan Lewandowsky School of Green Commuting (“Minimize your footprint by spending as little time on the ground as possible”).

Alx
Reply to  Brad Keyes
December 8, 2016 4:27 am

Yes and he even left behind his organic cooks and massage therapists. Though he did have his organic cooks make him sandwiches for the trip. The sacrifices one must make…

MarkW
Reply to  Alx
December 8, 2016 7:19 am

Is an organic cook, one that is made entirely of carbon compounds?

Reply to  Brad Keyes
December 8, 2016 12:37 pm

You’re joking but, Gary Johnson would have bicycled from coast to coast just for fun.

Dodgy Geezer
December 8, 2016 3:22 am

…In case you haven’t seen the DiCaprio climate documentary, I’ve created a 5 minute summary, to save you having to watch the entire film….
Alas, that video is not available outside the US. Could you please put up something for the rest of the world to view?

Reply to  Dodgy Geezer
December 8, 2016 5:13 am

It’s not available in the U.S. either, apparently.

D. Carroll
December 8, 2016 3:23 am

Oh yes!! They’ll keep snapping at his heals, till he trips!!
BTW. I can’t watch that movie here in my country, without paying. I’d have thought if it’s such an important issue,it would be available free for everyone to watch!

Ex-expat Colin
Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 8, 2016 3:59 am

Its got Fox International Channels Asia content in it Eric..so they blocked it. Cannot view in UK
Before the Flood of Boredom ?

Dave Ward
Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 8, 2016 4:10 am

Eric – according to the error message, it contains content from “Fox International Channels, Asia”, and that’s why it’s blocked.

Robert from oz
Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 8, 2016 2:49 pm

Won’t work in oz either .

JMH
Reply to  D. Carroll
December 8, 2016 12:13 pm

Globalisation is only a good thing for the rich. When the rest of us want to watch a movie owned in another country, content providers ban us and force us to buy it locally. That way they can extract as much money as possible from IP in different locations. They have to keep prices low in the US due to competition, but elsewhere they ramp up the prices. You can sign up to a vpn provider to get around this.

MarkW
Reply to  JMH
December 8, 2016 12:55 pm

If globalization is so easy to get around, then how exactly is it good for only the rich?
BTW, are you arguing that everyone who gets royalities from that video are members of the rich?
Are you arguing that everyone who benefits from lower prices and more choices are rich?
Or perhaps you just know what globalization is, other than something you are supposed to hate?

December 8, 2016 3:24 am

“100% climate literacy by 2020”. Hahahahaha and hahahahaha. Everybody needs a degree in physics learning all about heat transfer and fluid flow. I don’t somehow think so.

Tom Halla
December 8, 2016 3:25 am

I really must remember to avoid displays of schadenfreude, as it gets ugly, and given Trump’s recent behavior on green issues after meeting with advocates like Gore, he is about to do something to further annoy the green blob. Gloating is not pretty!

commieBob
Reply to  Tom Halla
December 8, 2016 3:48 am

I wonder if he gets off on having all these important and famous people prostrate themselves in obeissance and kiss his ring. Somehow he reminds me of Zaphod Beeblebrox, onetime President of the Galaxy, whose ego was larger than the known universe.

Reply to  Tom Halla
December 8, 2016 8:01 am

…the green blob. …
It’s a MOB

Reply to  Steve Case
December 8, 2016 8:58 am

It’s Gang-Green (gangrene)! Needs lopping off.

Tom Halla
Reply to  Steve Case
December 8, 2016 2:34 pm

I think the term “mob” implies too much organization, and ties into the conspiracy theory theme. Those !#$% are more of a fashion, a concensus, like socialism, and not like the Mafia.

Alan Ranger
December 8, 2016 3:27 am

“Installing building insulation or rooftop solar panels”
Maybe Leo could consult with Australian ex-PM (and failed candidate for boss of IPCC) Kevin Krudd, on the pitfalls of insulating buildings:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-25/insulation-companies-sues-government-for-compensation-pink-batts/7441782
https://theconversation.com/royal-commission-says-insulation-deaths-were-fault-of-the-governments-program-31113
http://insidestory.org.au/a-mess-a-shambles-a-disaster
Yay Leo!

William A. Weronko
December 8, 2016 3:46 am

Wasn’t Leonardo DiCaprio going to leave United States if Donald Trump was elected? I still have his ticket waiting for him.

phaedo
Reply to  William A. Weronko
December 8, 2016 4:04 am

“Wasn’t Leonardo DiCaprio going to leave United States if Donald Trump was elected?” I’m sure it weight heavily with some voters choice.

David Chappell
Reply to  William A. Weronko
December 8, 2016 12:29 pm

It will need to be a ticket to Mars – the rest of the world doesn’t want him (apart, maybe, from a few star-struck teenagers).

Reply to  William A. Weronko
December 8, 2016 9:09 pm

Between him, Lena Durham, Mylie Cyrus promising to move to Canada and madonna willing to give sexual favors to Hillary voters it’s no wonder Trump won!

Bernie
December 8, 2016 3:48 am

I wonder what MSNBC would say if Adam Sandler had met with Malia Obama to petition for closer US-Israel cooperation?

Rob
December 8, 2016 3:50 am

That’s insanity and a recipe for economic collapse.

papiertigre
December 8, 2016 4:03 am

YouTube blocked your video It seems some opinions are more equal than others once again when the topic is global warming.

papiertigre
Reply to  papiertigre
December 8, 2016 4:50 pm

D’Nesh D’Sousa has a movie out that is actually making money, unlike DeCaprio’s from the cutting room straight to Hulu mess.
And here is the Young Jerks oops I meant Young Turks , critique of “Hillary’s America”
Dinesh D’Souza’s Insane New Anti-Hillary Film
Just goes to show how brittle short tempered and small your warmers are. All their claims have an expiration date. None can stand a minute of criticism .

MarkW
Reply to  papiertigre
December 9, 2016 8:12 am

Which is why they usually try to outlaw criticism.

bobl
December 8, 2016 4:06 am

This is from someone who does Play Acting for a living…. He has so much credibility…. Not

papiertigre
Reply to  bobl
December 9, 2016 11:54 am

Play acting for a living ….yes. But look at the costume he adopts for a meeting with the President.
The goatee with jawline fringe beard, the same he carried throughout his climate change movie.
The same he wore while meeting President Obama.
It’s hard to tell usually about an actor’s true character because they can pretend so well, but it’s safe betting that this is the mask he would have the world see as the quintessential person. DeCaprio at his most honest true naked self .
https://youtu.be/68jAfiXmsUA
Just a coincidence his true ‘essence’ matches the radical wardrobe of plantation owner Calvin Candie?
I don’t think so.

Ex-expat Colin
December 8, 2016 4:08 am

I’m wondering if Trump is inviting the alarm generators in to hear their story first hand. Think the first few sentences uttered might nail it, just to gauge the depth of their belief. His placements might give them a clue about what comes next..like move your money and mouth out? Feet..carpet pull !

Mark from the Midwest
Reply to  Ex-expat Colin
December 8, 2016 4:41 am

I’m in total agreement: Gauge the enemy, make yourself look open, reasonable, accessible, let them go make a positive statement, (from their POV), to the press, send out your hit men, have the body dumped somewhere over the Marianas Trench.

cedarhill
December 8, 2016 4:32 am

Let’s all get behind goal no. 4. That’s sure to make Leonardo DiCaprio into the comedian that he is.

Kasuha
December 8, 2016 4:33 am

100% climate literacy by 2020 would be great. Not the way they are imagining it, though.

Alx
December 8, 2016 4:40 am

Leonardo is a brilliant actor, but a complete idiot in just about every other area. I think he said he was leaving the country if Trump was elected. Don’t know why he is still here. I thought he was going to Mexico where the labor required to maintain his lifestyle is cheaper.
Trump is acting more brilliant than I could have imagined. By meeting with Gore and Leonardo, he cannot be accused of being close minded when he is having conversations from all sides on the AGW issue. The same cannot be said of AGW advocates who continually shut down conversations with adhominem attacks.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Alx
December 8, 2016 5:06 am

I believe he did those meetings as a courtesy to his daughter but has no real intention of listening to them. Just look at his new appointment for heading the EPA.

MarkW
Reply to  Alx
December 8, 2016 7:23 am

When Obama was first elected, he refused to meet or even talk to anyone from the Republican side.
When asked for an explanation his response was “I won”.
It’s nice to have a grown up in the White House again.

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