Trump's EPA pick is causing green heads to explode

From E&E Legal:

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“We are delighted with President-elect Trump’s selection of Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt to head the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA).  Mr. Pruitt has led the charge in recent years to confront head on the enormous federal regulatory overreach proposed by the EPA as epitomized by the Clean Power Plan and Waters of the U.S. rule.  As a litigator, he also understands how environmental fringe groups like the Sierra Club and the NRDC – who are bankrolled by renewable energy tycoons like Tom Steyer and George Soros – use the state and federal court systems to essentially create new laws through such schemes as ‘sue & settle.’

It is also reassuring that President-Elect Trump has chosen someone from the state ranks, particularly a state so important to energy production, since it’s the states and their citizens who are suffering the most by this Administration’s out-of-control EPA.

We encourage Mr. Pruitt to gear up for battle since draining the EPA swamp will be met with the utmost resistance from an entrenched and well-funded green industrial complex. Finally, we strongly encourage him to add a deputy administrator to his team who has significant EPA experience, who shares the President’s vision, and can protect that vision from a hostile agency staff.”

Craig Richardson

E&E Legal President


UPDATE: as I was writing this, I got this press release:

CLCV Statement on Pruitt’s Nomination for EPA Administrator

Oakland, CA – In response to news reports that Trump will nominate Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt as EPA Administrator, California League of Conservation Voters CEO Sarah Rose issued the following statement:

“The naming of a climate denier like Scott Pruitt to head the EPA is nothing less than an effort to undermine the agency’s core mission to safeguard our environment. On the campaign trail President-elect Trump vowed to break America’s commitment to the Paris Climate Agreement, to open our public lands to drilling, and to dismantle the EPA. By nominating Scott Pruitt he’s making it clear he intends to follow through on those promises.

“Pruitt has sued the EPA, has fought environmental protections enacted by President Obama, and has denied the science of climate change itself. He represents the very threats the EPA should protect against, not be headed by. The California League of Conservation Voters calls on our Senators to reject this wrong-headed nomination which puts our families and communities at risk.

“California has a unique role to play. We are the sixth largest economy in the world. The decisions we make here, the policies we create, and how we respond to Trump’s attacks on our environmental protections will determine the pace of progress these next four years. We must organize to defend our hard-fought victories because every Californian deserves clean air to breathe and clean water to drink.”

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It’s like Pearl Harbor Day for them, like somebody made a sneak attack.. Some reactions on Twitter:

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Eric Simpson
December 7, 2016 2:28 pm

Obama’s EPA thinks we should sacrifice ourselves for climate change.
But ‘climate change’ is leftist manufactured bs. NASA with NOAA has engaged in data manipulation of the highest order, whose sole intention is to produce a narrative opposed by the evidence.
And in fact there is ZERO evidence that CO2 affect climate temperatures at all.
CO2 does not lead but *follows* changes in temperatures. This outstanding 4 minute video makes that point about CO2 clear as day:

Janice Moore
Reply to  Eric Simpson
December 7, 2016 4:31 pm

Very nice start to this thread, Mr. Simpson. On WUWT, what’s featured front-and-center regarding the Pruitt nomination? Science.

Reply to  Janice Moore
December 7, 2016 6:52 pm

+ 1 Love this appointment!

Eric Simpson
Reply to  Janice Moore
December 7, 2016 7:57 pm

Thank you Janice. Whenever I’m talking to somebody who believes in climate change I show them this video.
I wish everyone could see the video.
Sure, it wouldn’t change everyone’s mind, but it would change a lot of minds, and get others thinking that maybe they’re not 100% sure anymore.
There’s a lot of different arguments to be used against the warmist loons, but IMO the point made in the video above packs the single most powerful counter-argument to sow doubt in the minds of the warmist believers.

Hammer
Reply to  Janice Moore
December 7, 2016 9:53 pm

Oh yeah!

rogerthesurf
Reply to  Janice Moore
December 7, 2016 11:26 pm

This guy sounds like great choice to me
Cheers
Roger
http://www.rogerfromnewzealand.wordpress.com

Toneb
Reply to  Eric Simpson
December 8, 2016 4:57 am

Ah, Climate science myth #1.
You are seeing in the ice-core data a NATURAL process.
AGW is NOT natural.
CO” is being put into the atmosphere by Man not by nature
CO2 is not always the driver in the climate mix.
How did Earth ever get out of it’s “Ice-ball” stages FI?
Answer: Major volcanic out-gassing of CO2/CH4
It is a FEED-BACK as well.
Both.
The driver of glacial/IA/interglacial changes is the Earth’s orbital path and whether the insolation on the NH land masses is either too weak or too strong to allow snow-field to persist there into/through the summer.
Co2 lags that effect due to SST’s which either absorbs more when cooling or out-gasses more when warming.
What we see in ice-cores is the NATURAL process the Earth goes through if left to it’s own devices.
If CO2 is added outside of that it will become the DRIVER.

Arsivo
Reply to  Toneb
December 8, 2016 5:10 am

It cannot be both an inconsequential result and a primary driver. If carbon dioxide is a driver of global climate, than when the carbon dioxide was emitted by oceans, it would have done the same thing you claim here: warmed the earth enough to create a huge water feedback loop, creating run-away warming.
It is physically impossible for it to do two different things based on where the carbon dioxide came from.

Reply to  Toneb
December 8, 2016 5:52 am

Arsivo, what you claim would indeed be true for any normal physical compound but you must try to remember that CO2 is not one of those normal physical compounds. It is a magical compound imbued with all manner of spooky secret supernatural properties which allow it to do anything at all !

MarkW
Reply to  Toneb
December 8, 2016 6:21 am

I love the way alarmists actually believe that their opinions are facts.
Nobody knows how earth got into it’s snowball phase, nobody knows how it got out.
Some scientists theorize that CO2/CH4 caused it, but it’s just a theory.
Also I love the way you warmists do science. If 99% of the temperature and CO2 do not move together, the 1% of the time that it does proves that CO2 controls climate.
Getting desperate toneb, I feast on your fears.

oeman50
Reply to  Toneb
December 8, 2016 7:39 am

Physical processes do not hinge on the source of the CO2. If you put some CO2 in a flask, you will not be able to tell the difference between molecules that were from man-made sources and natural sources. The amount of man-made CO2 is a small fraction of the total carbon cycle of the planet. Your premise is incorrect.

Toneb
Reply to  Toneb
December 8, 2016 8:01 am

“It cannot be both an inconsequential result and a primary driver. If carbon dioxide is a driver of global climate, than when the carbon dioxide was emitted by oceans, it would have done the same thing you claim here: warmed the earth enough to create a huge water feedback loop, creating run-away warming.
It is physically impossible for it to do two different things based on where the carbon dioxide came from.”..
Look.
It’s really simple if you concentrate.
There are NOT doing different things.
CO2 is a GHG and restricts LWIR from leaving the planet.
Leading to warming.
What is different is WHEN CO2 comes into the mix.
Temperature drives CO2 release from the oceans.
Warmer oceans don’t absorb as much.
So the Earth gets warmer due to a more favourable NH summer TSI.
CO2 rises as a consequence.
Feed-back – more warming (amplified by H2O)
That is the natural glacial/interglacial/ice-age process.
Now we have increased the CO2 concentration by another 40%.
Nature didn’t do that WE did.
Do you see the distinction?
CO2 is a GHG whether it comes first or second and the consequences are the same either further warming/cooling (natural) or driven warming (us).
And:
“I love the way alarmists actually believe that their opinions are facts”.
Atcually not – I go with the IPCC range of an ECS of between 1.5 and 4.5C per x2CO2.
1.5 is not alarming.
4.5 certainly is.
I advocate the science my friend.
And as such it is NOT “my opinion”.
That CO2 does what it does is empirical science.
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/empirical
In fact it has, stretching back to 1859….
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Tyndall
“Some scientists theorize that CO2/CH4 caused it, but it’s just a theory”.
Nope – nothing else could have.
And it’s in the ice-cores.
As I said CO2 *warms* the planet.
How do you suppose Earth exited a “Snowball” state.
A passing Star perhaps?
“Getting desperate toneb, I feast on your fears.”
Not fears my friend.
And climate science is not “desperate”.
No more so than the science that has brought us the means we *talk* to each other now.
It advances.
If wrong someone gets great kudos in finding it so.
A Nobel even?
That is why the science is empirical my friend.
No one has.
Not Willis, Ball, Tisdale …. and most certainly not our impolite Lord.
Were are they pray?
With their Nobel-winning papers?
That HAVE TO overturn those ~150 years of empirical science.
Models not needed my friends.
What I have is scientific knowledge and common-sense.
Actually the latter is the most important.
Demonstrated multiple times on every thread here.

MarkW
Reply to  Toneb
December 8, 2016 9:19 am

Toneb, as usual, you contradict yourself.If CO2 is all powerful, then it must always be all powerful.
If CO2 is so weak that it’s effects are easily over ridden by natural forces, then it is always so weak that it’s effects are easily over ridden by natural forces.
You are trying to argue that when temperature and CO2 are in sync, it’s because CO2 is all powerful.
When CO2 and temperature are not in sync it’s because CO2 is being over ridden by natural forces.

Matt G
Reply to  Toneb
December 8, 2016 10:53 am

CO2 in ice cores has been shown as an effect of temperatures rises not the cause of them. The alarmist idea that this has been the wrong way round has failed to be shown in any timeline no matter how long or small. The chicken and egg has been well established here, but we are seeing some that are deceiving the public for personal gain.
CO2 is not a magic compound and behaves no different to where the source comes from. El Nino’s and the AMO dominate the global climate and there is no evidence CO2 has changed global temperatures different from these natural changes in any form.
There is no positive feedback found in CO2 at all. The idea there is a feedback is only on exaggerating claims of future global warming with no scientific evidence. There is no evidence that if CO2 is added outside of the natural cycle it will become the driver.
The ice core records show every time CO2 reached high levels there was an major ice age soon after. It had no affect on preventing major cooling on the planet because it is the effect of warming temperatures, not the cause of them. The effect of something never automatically means it work both ways and must be the cause too. This myth has been the FALSE assumption in the theory.

talldave2
Reply to  Toneb
December 8, 2016 1:56 pm

There was no massive volcanic outgassing driving us out of the last Ice Age.
The polar isolation of Antarctica is why we are oscillating back and forth between very short relatively comfortable interglacials and long, near-extinction Ice Ages.
The last Ice Age killed off the Neanderthals. The next one might kill off homo sapiens.

December 7, 2016 2:29 pm

Trump just keeps on giving! I did not expect much from him, but I am happy to say he has already exceeded my hopes! And it is still 6 weeks until he is president!

Lucius von Steinkaninchen
Reply to  philjourdan
December 7, 2016 2:32 pm

“Ahead of schedule and under budget!” =)

Reply to  Lucius von Steinkaninchen
December 7, 2016 3:05 pm

About says it all. Plus many.

Reply to  Lucius von Steinkaninchen
December 9, 2016 4:49 am

Touché!

2hotel9
Reply to  philjourdan
December 9, 2016 1:47 pm

And they are going to pay for it. Win/Win

EW3
Reply to  philjourdan
December 7, 2016 2:48 pm

Best Election Ever !

Phil R
Reply to  EW3
December 8, 2016 6:43 pm

I was lucky enough to cast my first vote for Reagan when I was old enough (and my second), and I voted for Trump. So, with respect, I have to say second best election ever. Hopefully in hindsight, it will be the best election ever.

Editor
Reply to  philjourdan
December 7, 2016 2:49 pm

he’s making it clear he [Donald Trump] intends to follow through on those promises“. Now that’s good news. It’s what the American public voted for. For a while it looked like Donald Trump was pulling back from some of his stated policies.

Reply to  Mike Jonas
December 7, 2016 3:31 pm

Sorry, I could not suppress a smile when I saw that sentence. Ok, where is the problem? Mr. Trump made many promises, and a month and a half before he is sworn in, he has already begun trying to keep them. Is this not the best result the country could have expected?

Janice Moore
Reply to  Mike Jonas
December 7, 2016 4:29 pm

It really is cool — their reactions are strong evidence that Donald Trump is now seen as the de facto president even by his enemies. That’s the effect of a true leader. Finally!

Eric Simpson
Reply to  Mike Jonas
December 7, 2016 4:31 pm

Trump’s said it: “No more money for politicized science!”

Steve Case
Reply to  Mike Jonas
December 7, 2016 5:10 pm

It’s what the American public voted for.
Damn straight

Reply to  Mike Jonas
December 7, 2016 5:30 pm

Who did the Greenies expect ” Richard Windsor”?

TG
Reply to  Mike Jonas
December 7, 2016 5:44 pm

Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt the right man at the right time at the right place!
EPA crowd do you know the words to cry me a river!!!!

Reply to  Mike Jonas
December 9, 2016 5:05 am

The “appearance” was merely more fake news from the purveyors of fake news, the MSM.

Peter Miller
Reply to  philjourdan
December 7, 2016 3:22 pm

The ubiquitous Green Blob will not give up without a fight. Speaking personally I will rejoice as I watch the Great Green Gravy train derail.
On a more serious note, the dismantling of all the unnecessary and expensive green rules, regulations and edicts could push the US economy into a period of unprecedented growth and prosperity.
Any hope of the European Union following America’s lead? Not a chance with its entrenched, unelected bureaucracy only interested in feathering its own nests, as opposed to looking after the interests of those they are supposed to represent.

Phil's Dad
Reply to  Peter Miller
December 7, 2016 4:36 pm

It’s enough to make a country want to leave.

Greg
Reply to  Peter Miller
December 7, 2016 4:37 pm

Years ago I would have defended the EPA but they have become so politically corrupt the only solution is to disband the US EPA entirely.
There comes a point when just sacking a few top name will not be enough to fix the rot.

Ian W
Reply to  Peter Miller
December 7, 2016 4:43 pm

I suspect that the EUrocrats will double down and enforce even more regulations, while making disparaging noises about the USA ‘failure’ to implement the ‘Paris accord’. However, the “it’s the economy stupid” will rapidly cause them problems. Regulatory control only works if everyone is doing it – and that was the real reason behind TTP and TTIP, hegemony of pan-national/supra-national companies and banks enforcing regulations to suit themselves not countries or small companies. Now with Brexit and Trump, there are already breaches in the dyke before all the concrete is poured.

Steve Case
Reply to  Peter Miller
December 7, 2016 5:10 pm

Mob not blob

JohnKnight
Reply to  Peter Miller
December 7, 2016 6:51 pm

I agree, Steve, there’s way too much method to this madness for it to be some sort of “organic” critter . . and thanks for your insistence.

joelobryan
Reply to  Peter Miller
December 7, 2016 8:43 pm

Greg,
The EPA is now infested with former NRDC and other green NGO staff throughout its GS ranks. The swamp has filled with lots of moles under Obama.

Reply to  joelobryan
December 7, 2016 10:57 pm

The Department of State under Hillary was just the tip of the iceberg. People going back and forth between State and the Clinton Foundation slush fund was part of it.
We have had similar activities by people going between other government agencies and NGOs, but on a vaster scale. Once inside government, watermelons can aid their old partners, with the idea that they can go back if things get tough or the money is better.

Reply to  Peter Miller
December 7, 2016 9:05 pm

That’s a very good point Peter. I certainly hope the follow up of defunding all the many layers of propaganda and operatives in NASA and NOAA to name just two agencies as well as almost all “educational” related steep in dogma as a start.
I see lots of over confidence on the board. This more like the Punic Wars. The globalist left is married to junk science authority. It might morf to another topic just as “clean air”, “over population” were topics of the past and rolled into “warming” then “climate change”. They are shape shifters and it really isn’t about climate at the core at all. It’s about central planning authority and climate was just another method to that end.
So even complete defunding and eradication of the climate change movement, which is so deserved, it will take a great deal of time and may reemerge in a new form such as “sustainability” or any other excuse to rationalize global authority by the very same characters behind the current show.
These are the longer game points, in the short term you can expect at least two full “Borkings” from the minority party. EPA might be one of the nominations. We might also need those North Dakota water cannons for the inauguration. The greens are quick army right now on short notice, you can see the fanaticism regardless of AstroTurfing in the pipeline in North Dakota. I’m also concerned while Trump is in the right place intellectually this fight wasn’t on the first 100 day agenda. Creating exactly the short of side show distraction the left thrives on.
There is another issue with Pruitt himself, he’s a strong states rights advocate. Normally a positive but at the same time he isn’t going to engage the sort of green cults growing in California or the North East. Hence the greens and climate trolls have natural incubation habitats even if the central planning dollars are reduced or eliminated. Keep in mind defunding the broader climate propaganda enclaves is far from assured.
A good start but as you can see final victory is a massive hard fight away all the same.

markl
Reply to  cwon14
December 7, 2016 9:21 pm

Yes the propaganda emanates “from the top down and from the bottom up” to capture the middle class. Already city, county, and state governments are on board with the AGW and Agenda 21 plans and actions to take control. California being the most egregious perpetrator. It will take another Trump like uprising to unseat the faithful in those huge population centers that voted HRC and that won’t happen soon.

Reply to  Peter Miller
December 8, 2016 12:44 am

@Peter Miller December 7, 2016 at 3:22 pm
The EU is already shaky and thankfully we in the UK have chosen to leave the corrupt, incompetent edifice. When America starts to grow and the EU continues to falter the rats will start leaving the sinking ship.
Hopefully, Theresa May and her government now see the writing on the wall and push for a ‘hard’ Brexit and join with America to shake off the green, liberal left elite and value their own hard working citizens instead of babysitting the rest of the world and wasting vast amounts of money on green policies.
The green blobs rabid fanaticism and ultimate corruption has turned around and bitten them on the backside.

MarkW
Reply to  Peter Miller
December 8, 2016 6:24 am

The fate of all bureaucracies is to become politically corrupt. The only difference is how fast.

Will Nelson
Reply to  philjourdan
December 7, 2016 5:03 pm

Trump could have been, and may well be, pretty bad. But he has succeeded perfectly in one thing: #neverclinton.

Reply to  Will Nelson
December 9, 2016 7:31 am

That was half of my “hopes”. The other half was giving the establishment (both sides) a severe case of Hemorrhoids. And he has far surpassed that one!

Roguewave1
Reply to  philjourdan
December 7, 2016 6:33 pm

What better way to announce how the meeting with algore went. Slap! Would you like another Al?

Reply to  Roguewave1
December 7, 2016 10:55 pm

+10

Goldrider
Reply to  philjourdan
December 8, 2016 7:06 am

THIS is our moment! We need every radio station in the country, every right-leaning newspaper, to TRUMPET TO THE SKIES the historical facts of natural climate change IN CONTEXT and let people come to their own, eminently logical, conclusion that for 30 years we’ve been “had.” We need to CHANGE THE NARRATIVE that energy and environment are necessarily opposed! Go TRUMP, doing what we elected him for!!!

wws
December 7, 2016 2:35 pm

I just felt a Great Disturbance in my pants, as though thousands of EPA employees were suddenly unemployed.

Steamboat McGoo
Reply to  wws
December 7, 2016 2:50 pm

Yep. It was good for me, too!
The foam-mouthed frenzy going on among the Greens is a sure-fire indication that – once again – The Trump is on the right track.

Steve Case
Reply to  Steamboat McGoo
December 7, 2016 5:14 pm

I am reminded of a tag line on another blog:
“It’s always reassuring to find you’ve made the right enemies.” — William J. Donovan

Reply to  wws
December 7, 2016 2:54 pm

it’s the Force. the force of a volume of money expanding in your pocket.

nigelf
Reply to  wws
December 7, 2016 3:17 pm

I got a mighty tingle up my leg!
Drain the EPA swamp!

DJA
Reply to  nigelf
December 7, 2016 6:29 pm

I think the EPA just got a mighty tinkle down their legs.

Darryl S
Reply to  wws
December 7, 2016 3:36 pm

Exceptional +1

TDBraun
Reply to  wws
December 7, 2016 4:31 pm

+1

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  wws
December 7, 2016 5:03 pm

“I just felt a great disturbance…”
I can’t stop laughing!

jones
Reply to  jorgekafkazar
December 7, 2016 11:17 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH…..yup, me too…..one of the better ones!

John Harmsworth
Reply to  wws
December 7, 2016 5:33 pm

I think thousands of EPA employees have been feeling strange disturbances in their pants as well!

Reply to  wws
December 7, 2016 5:53 pm

@wws
Very funny wws. I always enjoy your posts.
Plus you have my Dad’s initials. Except he is a wws III.

Alan Robertson
December 7, 2016 2:36 pm

Sierra Club, Bernie Sanders, Ed Markey and especially Sheldon Whitehouse… to me, that bunch just provided Sterling endorsement for Scott Pruitt.
They oppose him? Then, I’m for him.

Eric Simpson
Reply to  Alan Robertson
December 7, 2016 3:23 pm

Global Cooling
Global WARMING
Climate Change!!!
Global Climate Disruption

No:
“I call it weather.” -Donald Trump

Steve Case
Reply to  Alan Robertson
December 7, 2016 5:15 pm

They oppose him? Then, I’m for him.
Same logic I use with the local liberal rag.

RAH
Reply to  Steve Case
December 8, 2016 10:34 pm

Works over 90% of the time. If the MSM is for it then I’m against it. If the MSM is against it then I’m for it. In most cases the louder they scream the more I like it.
We are going to see the left and their press get ever more shrill and outrageous with their claims and it will not serve them well in the long run. Their credibility, already seriously damaged, will continue to decline as they get ever more hyperbolic.
The thing is that the democrats and their press are always in a political campaign mode most of us are just plain sick of it. Most of us were happy when the elections were over, thinking that the endless BS would end for awhile once it was over but that is not the case.
It’s like a kid that throws tantrums. The people are tired of it. They just got a hard spanking during the election and are still crying about that and will not learn their lesson. They will scream until they’re spanked again and I bet they still won’t learn.

Jeff in Calgary
Reply to  Alan Robertson
December 7, 2016 7:19 pm

Saunders linking to the NYTimes article is massive Projection Disorder… (Exxon Knew…)

Russell R.
December 7, 2016 2:37 pm

The 10th Amendment still has a heartbeat. If we can keep it alive, we may learn to appreciate why it was included in the Bill of Rights.

Latitude
December 7, 2016 2:44 pm

I’m sick and tired of being insulted by these loons, actors, musicians, news reporters, EU, France, drug addicts…you name it.
Who the hell do they think they are?
Half the people in this country should be furious!

Resourceguy
Reply to  Latitude
December 7, 2016 2:54 pm

The county map version is even better.

Latitude
Reply to  Latitude
December 7, 2016 2:59 pm

…read the fine print

ShrNfr
Reply to  Latitude
December 7, 2016 3:23 pm
KevinK
Reply to  Latitude
December 7, 2016 3:27 pm

If you examine the County map of the USA it is possible to drive from the East Coast all the way to the West Coast WITHOUT driving through a county that voted for HER….
Hahaha…
Cheers, KevinK

Ron
Reply to  Latitude
December 7, 2016 4:13 pm

That is funny!

Alx
Reply to  Latitude
December 7, 2016 5:56 pm

LOL!

Robert from oz
Reply to  Latitude
December 7, 2016 9:11 pm

If we had an Australian version you wouldn’t need much ink .

BobM
Reply to  Latitude
December 8, 2016 6:41 pm

” KevinK
December 7, 2016 at 3:27 pm
If you examine the County map of the USA it is possible to drive from the East Coast all the way to the West Coast WITHOUT driving through a county that voted for HER….”
Otherwise known as “The Freedom Trail”…

Paul Westhaver
December 7, 2016 2:44 pm

I sincerely think that WUWT, Climate Depot, etc are the reason why this happened.
Thanks!

Alan Robertson
Reply to  Paul Westhaver
December 7, 2016 2:53 pm

Especially, WUWT. Many thanks to our gracious host.

Resourceguy
Reply to  Alan Robertson
December 7, 2016 2:54 pm

Yes +10

Reply to  Alan Robertson
December 7, 2016 6:19 pm

Quit being a piker Alan. PLUS 1776

Reply to  stan stendera
December 7, 2016 10:39 pm

Other than from the loony left, a bloodless revolution.

Reply to  Alan Robertson
December 7, 2016 6:21 pm

Oops! Comment to Resourceguy.

Joe Crawford
Reply to  Paul Westhaver
December 7, 2016 3:04 pm

I have to throw Steve McIntyre’s Climate Audit into that group as well. His slow and thorough audit (i.e., destruction) of Michael Mann’s hockey stick paper initiated the total downfall of the ‘Hockey Team’ and probably led to the release of the ‘Climategate’ emails.

Reply to  Joe Crawford
December 7, 2016 3:19 pm

Yes, an essential contributor. But there is no one most important element. McIntyre, Curry, WUWT, JoNova, Homewood, Gosselin, and many other have been soldiering on for years. We owe them all a great thanks.
IMO, the election turning point was Hillary’s Basket of Deplorables talk in NYC to radical progressives, and then how Trump turned that into a rousing ‘Les Miserables’ theme at the opening of his immediately following Miami rally. At that moment, I became a graduate Harvard educated Deplorable whose ex-wife went to school with and overlapped Hillary ar Wellesey College. Ex wife shows some judgement on my or her part (story perspective depends), the Deplorables Miami intro shows much better later judgement concerning more important things. BTW, Trump also won Florida, my legal voting residence!

Paul Westhaver
Reply to  Joe Crawford
December 7, 2016 3:29 pm

ristvan
..oh yes!… Three cheers!

CheshireRed
Reply to  Joe Crawford
December 7, 2016 3:58 pm

Correct. Eye-watering attention to detail derailed Mann’s Hockey Stick gravy train. Great work by M&M.

TA
Reply to  Joe Crawford
December 7, 2016 3:58 pm

“Yes, an essential contributor. But there is no one most important element. McIntyre, Curry, WUWT, JoNova, Homewood, Gosselin, and many other have been soldiering on for years. We owe them all a great thanks.”
We really do. Every now and then, the right people come along at the right time.

Monna Manhas
Reply to  Joe Crawford
December 7, 2016 4:06 pm

… and don’t forget Jennifer Marohasy.

Alan Robertson
Reply to  Joe Crawford
December 7, 2016 4:20 pm

+++++

Eric Simpson
Reply to  Paul Westhaver
December 7, 2016 3:16 pm

ClimateGate helped!
Hide the Decline:

^^ Good celebratory video for right now ^^

Rhoda R
Reply to  Eric Simpson
December 7, 2016 4:28 pm

That song never gets old.

Janice Moore
Reply to  Eric Simpson
December 7, 2016 4:43 pm

And WHAT a wonderful announcement on ***Pearl Harbor Day*** — a trouncingly great blow for science realist VICTORY!
Those on the side of science truth and liberty have taken some devastatingly hard, cowardly, blows (some have even sacrificed careers), but, in the end, TRUTH AND LIBERTY WON.
Go, Allies for Truth!

(youtube)
Sometimes stunned, sometimes weary beyond trying, but, in the end, VICTORIOUS.
As Paul Westhaver points out below, WAY TO GO, ANTHONY AND WUWT (and McIntyre and Monckton and Salby and Lindzen and Ball and Soon and Jo Nova and on and on……)
Thank you.
*************************************
And, lest we forget: Thank you, every one of you, who fought for our freedom or put yourself in harm’s way to protect America and Great Britain and Australia and New Zealand and their allies in WWII.
We will remember — always.

RAH
Reply to  Eric Simpson
December 8, 2016 11:00 pm

Janice
Did you know that MacArthur made sure that the man he left in command of the US and Filipino forces and who ultimately surrendered them was present for the signing ceremony. Lt. General Jonathan Wainwright was found in alive after nearly 4 years in a prison camp in Manchuria. MacArthur had him taken care of and made sure he was present on the USS Missouri in full uniform that day. MacArthur had opposed Wainwright receiving the MOH as was proposed in 1942 but did not oppose it after the war.
As a rule the Americans that survived being prisoners of the Japanese had about a 10% shorter life span after their release as compared to those Americans that had been prisoners of the Germans. I suspect that would hold true for all the allied prisoners of all nationalities with the exception of the Russians and Poles held by the Germans who were treated much worse.

Paul Westhaver
Reply to  Paul Westhaver
December 7, 2016 4:19 pm
Alan Robertson
Reply to  Paul Westhaver
December 7, 2016 4:23 pm

Pruitt is gonna need a mighty big plunger. That’s a big load to flush.

Reply to  Paul Westhaver
December 7, 2016 4:27 pm

Hmmm. AGW lemming behavior.

Dale Muncie
Reply to  Paul Westhaver
December 7, 2016 5:20 pm

Lemmings?

Wrusssr
Reply to  Paul Westhaver
December 7, 2016 10:47 pm

. . . and there are bulldozers standing by to fill in the hole.

Robert from oz
Reply to  Paul Westhaver
December 8, 2016 12:09 am

That’s what I call a good start , you may need a bigger hole though .

Steve Case
Reply to  Paul Westhaver
December 7, 2016 5:18 pm
AndyG55
Reply to  Steve Case
December 7, 2016 10:48 pm

So did propaganda sites like SkS, Climate Central, ClimateProgress, Tamino, Joe Romm….etc etc etc
Their RABID alarmist exaggerations played a HUGE part in bringing down the AGW scam.
We should thank them for their moronic efforts.

Joe Crawford
Reply to  Steve Case
December 8, 2016 7:50 am

Andy, in my case it was ‘blips’ (i.e., irrational posts & comments) on RealClimate that forced me into downloading the Vostok data and plotting it for myself. I guess some strange confluence of Herbert Simon’s ‘bounded rationality’ and Thomas Kuhn’s ‘paradigm shifts’ had finally tripped my (engineering) B.S. detector and forced me into verification mode. It wasn’t long after that I found Steve Mcintyre’s Climate Audit and it was all down hill from there, buried in the depths of scepticism..

Martin A
Reply to  Paul Westhaver
December 8, 2016 12:55 am

The cheering is premature. I’ll believe the nightmare is over when I can buy 60W tungsten lamp bulbs again in any European supermarket.

Stephen Richards
Reply to  Martin A
December 8, 2016 2:22 am

Wont happen, ever

Steve T
Reply to  Martin A
December 8, 2016 3:01 am

I won’t ever need to buy any more tungsten filament lamps as I have a loft full, even 75W and 100W – enough to see me out. I bought them as they were de-stocking and they cost 22 euro cents for two!
They also provide sufficient background heating in the winter as it gets dark earlier and I rarely need extra heating on. Win-Win
SteveT

December 7, 2016 2:45 pm

I did not really expect that much of Trump, other than the major fact he was not Hillary Rodham Clinton. He is thus far pleasantly suprising me. I did not much like Trump’s practice of talking down to his audiences (he did graduate from Wharton, and I know he has a better than 8th grade vocabulary), but he is apparently delivering on his promises.

December 7, 2016 2:46 pm

I’m confident Truitt will know the difference between a rain puddle and a lake 😉󾓦😉

Reply to  hocuspocus13
December 7, 2016 3:29 pm

Pruitt. But I agree, as a Wisconsin farm owner whose back in the woods, Wisconsin permitted since 1983, 1 acre dammed artificial stock pond miles from the Wisconsin River, (itself 40 miles from the navigable Missisippi) would have been swept under WOTUS and EPA. Hey, EPA, get the hell off my dairy farm I have owned. loved, and managed for crops, game (turkey, deer, trout, and much more), timber, and erosion comtrol for more than three decades. You screwed up Gold King Mine. You know nothing about contour rotation, invasive species control (multiflora rose, garlic mustard, Chinese honeysuckle in our part of the woods), or general land management. Just go away.

TA
Reply to  ristvan
December 7, 2016 4:04 pm

Really! Who is going to take care of your land better than you. Nobody!

Greg
Reply to  ristvan
December 7, 2016 4:47 pm

EPA, just go away.
Maybe someone could print that on a tee-shirt. ( Unbleached, organic cotton , of course ).

jjs
Reply to  ristvan
December 7, 2016 5:04 pm

Also from Wisconsin, You mentioned – “get the hell off my dairy farm”
The “EPA DOES NOT THINK IT IS YOUR FARM”, they believe it is communal property owned by them and just occupied by you, i.e., a communist system. The EPA along with the DNR (less so now) are flooded with communist visionaries and tools of the party.
It sounds like Pruitt gets the big picture which is good for us but not so good for the communist occupiers.

jvcstone
Reply to  ristvan
December 7, 2016 5:15 pm

pretty much the same down here in Texas. Shoot, if we didn’t dig holes to hold run off, it would really be dry around here

Wrusssr
Reply to  ristvan
December 8, 2016 1:58 am

. . . it comes down to who will stay up all night with the sick cow — the cow’s owner or a government bureaucrat? . . . and why Russian farmers grew more produce on the plots they were allowed for personnel planting and harvest than the land where they were told plant what/when where acres and acres of tomatoes and other vegetables rotted annually because the bowels of a central bureaucracy couldn’t get trucks there in time to haul them.

December 7, 2016 2:47 pm

I think that environment community should reread Abraham Lincoln’s first inaugural speech, where he addresses the South: “We are not enemies, but friends. We must not be enemies.”

December 7, 2016 2:48 pm

WOW, Im in heaven, this is the most positive news since climategate emails, and has the potential to be even bigger!!!!

jeanparisot
December 7, 2016 2:48 pm

The Left’s responses encourage me; you only take flak when your over the target.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  jeanparisot
December 7, 2016 5:30 pm

A Polecat gets crazy desparate when it’s cornered.

Chris Hanley
December 7, 2016 2:48 pm

“… every Californian deserves clean air to breathe and clean water to drink …”.
=============================
Exactly.
She’s actually agreeing with Trump, that’s exactly what the EPA is supposed to focus on, not the naturally occurring beneficial trace atmospheric gas CO2.

TA
Reply to  Chris Hanley
December 7, 2016 4:05 pm

Good way to put it, Chris.

Greg
Reply to  TA
December 7, 2016 4:50 pm

yep, like Trump said, we all want clean air and crystal clear water.
EPA failed on Flint water supply and Gold King mine because they are too busy with politically motivated CO2 “pollution”.
EPA: all your bases are belong to us !

Eric Simpson
December 7, 2016 2:49 pm

Pruitt Has Recently Questioned The Validity Of The Science Behind Global Warming
This is a big deal. Because greater legitimacy will be given to the skeptic side by the very fact that we are now in power. And have done things like shut down NASA’s climate operations for being “politicized science.”
“If you can’t beat ’em .. join ’em.” The fear mongering Chicken Littles, despite billions of dollars spent and virtually the entire leftist media and leftist educational establishment behind them, couldn’t beat us.

Hivemind
Reply to  Eric Simpson
December 7, 2016 3:16 pm

This statement is still very premature. For a start, there are still hundreds of countries out there that want to suck the money out of America, Australia, etc and the global warming fr4ud is their method of choice.

TA
Reply to  Hivemind
December 7, 2016 4:11 pm

“For a start, there are still hundreds of countries out there that want to suck the money out of America, Australia, etc”
This is a very good talking point to explain to the people. The reason most of the nations support the Paris Accord is because they stand to benefit financially from it, and the taxpayers of the western world stand to lose a lot of money over it.

Reply to  Hivemind
December 7, 2016 4:37 pm

Go where there is an easy and yet easier response. 1. Paris is a voluntary executive agreement under UNFCCC, with a subsequent three year opt out. 2. UNFCCC is actually a Pact, but with a 1 year opt out. uNFCCC admitting Palestine as a voting UNFCCC member last year is an explicit contravention of 1990 and 1994 US laws that Obumer just ignored. (WhynUS does not fund UNESCO). So exercise the one year UNFCCC opt out mandated bynUS law since 26 years. No Green Climate Fund obligations. No Paris Agreement as is only subsidiary to UNFCCC. UN problems solved.

Janice Moore
Reply to  Hivemind
December 7, 2016 4:46 pm

Well, there’s old wet blanket Hive, again. (head shake)
Take heart, Hive! They may “want to.” They will not GET to.

Bill Treuren
Reply to  Hivemind
December 7, 2016 7:35 pm

No that is not so. Here in New Zealand we have no option but to roll with the prevailing story, like it or not.
The likelihood is that as the changes happen in the US the sheltering alternative thinkers will emerge.
There is climate change but what portion if any can be pinned to man. If we are lucky we will have a period of cooler weather globally that will allow us to objectively define the apportioned AGW component.
I believe that the dividend due to mankind from the massive technological developments of the last 25 years will come if we stop pouring money down the drains of the Musk’s etc.
My big bug is the ludicrous hand ringing we hear about fresh water shortages. At the same time we cripple the energy sector. With technology and energy a limitless quantity of sea water can be converted into freshwater, its all about energy and technology lets get moving again and stop the apologetic stance we hold on everything.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Hivemind
December 7, 2016 8:03 pm

“Bill Treuren December 7, 2016 at 7:35 pm”
There could be a change given the fact John Key recently, and surprisingly, resigned as New Zealand’s prime minister.

Raven
Reply to  Hivemind
December 7, 2016 9:10 pm

True enough, Hivemind.
However, our (Australia’s) latest “emissions intensity scheme” of two days ago lasted about 24 hours before being pulled.
The Trump effect will help turn the tide and embolden political opposition to this silly CO2 obsession.

Griff
Reply to  Eric Simpson
December 8, 2016 3:01 am

not by anyone outside the US (or outside the Republican Party/Trump govt).
Pruitt’s appointment is playing vey badly in the UK media just now.
To the Germans this looks like outright lunacy.

David Smith
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 3:13 am

Griff, I think you’ll find it’s only the loons at the Grauniad and other lefty rags (the ones with desperately low circulations) who are really wetting their pants. As for the Germans, ask them about their screwed-up energy policy.
Besides, why should people in the States care about what some green loons across the pond think?

rapscallion
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 5:00 am

I’m very happy with it and I live in England. I get the strong feeling that Trump is going to be a great President. MAGA
The UK media being the Guardian in your case. So not representative at all then.
Who cares what the Germans think? If they want to fill up Germany with pointless bird slicers, that’s their problem.

MarkW
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 6:34 am

Playing bad in the UK MEDIA. Need I say more.
Griffie actually believes that the BBC speaks for the average Briton.

catweazle666
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 4:28 pm

Griff: “Pruitt’s appointment is playing vey badly in the UK media just now.”
After all the abusive BS they’ve spouted about him, you think Trump gives a flying dog’s bollock what the UK media has to say about him?
Get real.

brians356
Reply to  Griff
December 8, 2016 10:36 pm

Hey Griff, this would be the time to trot out your Arctic Sea Ice Extent graph and demand an explanation. Have you been drinking heavily or something?

RAH
Reply to  Griff
December 9, 2016 5:23 am

And we should give a hoot what the EU nations think because…….? Even with the exit of most of the US military from Europe the US remain the backbone of NATO simply because the countries of the EU, with the exception of France, have failed to provide adequately for their own defense since WW II ended.
Spain went bankrupt going whole hog into “renewables”. Britain has started the rot with Brexit and more almost certainly to follow. All of them are struggling with influx of “refugees” they have allowed to invade their nations and with their own populations that are getting ever more restless because of the hair brained edicts of the EU. The McDonalds chain has seen the writing on the wall as the EU starts making noises about shaking them down to move their HQ from Luxembourg to the UK. Expect to see a lot more of this kind of thing as the EU tries to tax international companies in an effort to stay afloat financially.

Reply to  Griff
December 9, 2016 11:12 am

Sanity does appear that way to the insane.

December 7, 2016 2:49 pm

Sierra Club ( https://twitter.com/sierraclub/status/806581344872648704 ) “Pruitt is a climate science denier who, as AG for Oklahoma, regularly conspired with the fossil fuel industry to attack EPA safeguards”
Pruitt was part of the AG backlash against the Gore-Oreskes-NY AG Schneiderman persecution of skeptics as ‘industry-funded crooks.” Not a good idea for our enviro-activist friends to keep on committing political suicide by accusing Pruitt of being paid oil money to lie, he could turn over what he knows about that whole accusation business to pending Attorney General Jeff Sessions …. whereupon enviro-activists might get that big ‘climate denier trial’ they’ve long been calling for, in which their dear leaders would need the best lawyers that Steyer/Soros money can buy.

MarkW
Reply to  Russell Cook (@questionAGW)
December 8, 2016 6:36 am

To your average socialist, government is never wrong. That’s why they actually believe that telling the people that Pruitt opposed EPA regulations is going to sway the masses.
They find it impossible to believe that most people are opposed to ever more EPA regulations.

Reply to  MarkW
December 9, 2016 11:41 am

And thus the idiocy of socialists. How else to explain their support of BLM, which is anti-government as they preach killing the officers in charge with enforcing their governments dictates!

Reply to  philjourdan
December 9, 2016 2:40 pm

Phil, there is a perverse anarchist element in Marxism in particular and socialism in general. The notion of the State “withering away” , while US constitutional tradition and the British Whig politics it dererives from is about the constraints on what legitimate government is, not that all government is nearly equally illegitimate. We do have a bit of history on where each tradition leads.

December 7, 2016 2:53 pm

The flak is heaviest when you are right over the target. Great pick.

Steve Case
Reply to  TFG (@navtechie)
December 7, 2016 5:22 pm

“The flak is heaviest when you are right over the target.”
Oh that is a good line.

Felflames
Reply to  Steve Case
December 8, 2016 12:40 am

The other one is something old fighter pilots tell young ones.
“Tracers work in both directions”

MarkW
Reply to  Steve Case
December 8, 2016 6:38 am

I read a report a few months back that made the claim that tracer rounds had different aerodynmics compared to normal rounds. If your tracers were hitting the target, that meant all your other rounds were missing.
The best aces did not use tracers but relied on their planes gun sights.

RAH
Reply to  Steve Case
December 9, 2016 2:02 pm

Tracers do have slightly different ballistic properties than other rounds. The difference is small enough that it does not effect accuracy much except at longer ranges. Quite a few innovators during WW II ordered tracers eliminated from the loads of their squadrons aircraft guns. In many cases scores climbed simply because tracers warned the pilot of the targeted aircraft he was being fire at and which direction the threat was coming from so he would maneuver away before the attacker could adjust his fire on target.
As for “tracers working in both directions” I believe that came out of Vietnam and had to do with ground warfare. Being the gunner and assistant on an M-60 machine gun was a more dangerous proposition than being a rifleman when the tracers your firing pinpoints your position to the enemy and your weapon with it’s heavier firepower is the one they most want to take out. Also the M-40 Recoilless rifle uses a .50 caliber spotter firing a tracer round to get the piece on target and that also gives away the position of the piece.

2hotel9
Reply to  RAH
December 9, 2016 4:02 pm

“Ahhh, I don’t know, Daavvvy?” Being an avid military history student and trained by US Army to utilize light/medium/heavy machine guns, I have never heard of aircraft not using tracers for aerial engagement. I was taught to vary the spacing of ball, tracer, armor piercing etc, depending upon your tactical needs. Example, you are the base piece which riflemen and grenadiers are using to engage targets at distance(200-400meters) you run more tracers so they have a solid line-to-target on which to aim for each target you designate. Engaging vehicles you want tracer-AP-AP-AP-tracer-AP-AP-AP-tracer. Aircraft you want tracer-ball-ball-tracer-ball-ball-tracer. Firing straight tracer belts to ignite flammables(POL,structures) is not unheard of, just hard on barrels, and spacing tracers out to 1 in 5 or 1 in 7 is really only for firing consistently long bursts from fixed weapon/vehicle mount positions. It is all a bit more complicated than most people grasp. Please don’t try to simplify it for them, that just leads to comprehension issues.

mellyrn
December 7, 2016 2:56 pm

Perhaps with Pruitt at the EPA, the agency can focus on real pollutants.

Reply to  mellyrn
December 7, 2016 11:04 pm

That would amazing of course.
He would then have to impose that conclusion on California etc., that’s where I see trouble. “States rights” is good on defense but the leftist states can use it to their ends as well.
CAGW goes to local incubators until they get back to national power.

MarkW
Reply to  cwon14
December 8, 2016 6:39 am

If CA wants to go above and beyond the EPA minimums, that is their right. It is also a matter that only concerns CA citizens.

Reply to  mellyrn
December 8, 2016 6:41 am

The best thing Trump could do would be to make a clean-up of the Flint MI water situation the first infrastructure project.

December 7, 2016 3:01 pm

Dear President Elect Trump, if you can keep stoking the media and liberal ‘intelligentsia’ for the next four years i can die a happy man. For too many years i had to listen to the garbage spewed out by the PC crowd
as to how i might be affecting the world. I am now to the point where i can not listen or even read that crap
any more. I’M done. Please make them fester in a boil of snot and shiit. Thank you.

Curious George
December 7, 2016 3:02 pm

EPA gave us carbon pollution standards. The Earth should not be greening! That’s wrong!

markl
December 7, 2016 3:03 pm

Be still my beating heart 🙂 We have at least 4 years with a voice and I hope that’s enough. My concern is the money and politics involved in the AGW scam can wait us out. Hopefully we can go beyond executive orders and make lasting changes that prevent the scam from reappearing. Conservative have (or will have) majority power in the Senate, House, Executive office, and the Supreme Court. I hope we don’t waste it.

Menicholas
Reply to  markl
December 7, 2016 4:50 pm

Do not forget enough state houses and legislatures to possibly amend the constitution in some key areas!
If not at the moment than in 2 years when we win a super majority in the senate.
I have heard no one mention this…I just want to get the idea out there into the ether.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Menicholas
December 9, 2016 12:20 pm

That movement is currently ongoing, Convention of States (COS). No it is NOT a constitutional convention, it is operating under Article V of the Constitution:
“…or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several States or by convention in three fourths thereof …”
One of the amendments I agree with is term limits on Senators and Congresspeople. They will never do it to themselves so it is up to the COS to do so. Hopefully, the COS will not get bogged down in a fight over which amendment to propose. Term limits will go a long way to ridding our government with life long inhabitants who lose touch with everyone but their PAC donors.

markl
Reply to  Tom in Florida
December 9, 2016 12:32 pm

+1 COS producing term limits. 14 states signed on so far for a COS.

jvcstone
Reply to  markl
December 7, 2016 5:20 pm

remember all, these appointments still need to be confirmed by the senate–our work is not done yet.

TA
Reply to  jvcstone
December 7, 2016 7:51 pm

The biggest threat in the Senate to confirming Trump’s nominees will be an opinionated Republican or two. If the Repubicans stick together, they can pass all the nominations.
Given the last eight years, my confidence in the Republicans in the Senate is greatly diminished, to put it mildly. I would expect to see a huge uproar from Trump supporters if some selfish/self-righteous Republican tries to hold up the show. Are you listening Rand Paul?

Reply to  jvcstone
December 7, 2016 11:16 pm

Expert a full Borking.
This topic isn’t even on Trump’s top five list for the 100 days. Considering they could gather 7500 minions to a blizzard in North Dakota you could see an immediate transfer to the inauguration and pure spectacle with water cannons there.
Despite our special interest as a topic a good chunk of the population aren’t interested in the detailed technical fraud of climate alarmism. They’ll just a climate riot and the sales job of the MSM about the GOP “raping the planet” as Chris Matthews instantly blurted out tonight.
It’s old schtick but short-term it’s low hanging fruit for the democrats to fire up their deranged base.

December 7, 2016 3:04 pm

The louder the roar from the left, the more I know Trump’s on the right track.

Bubba Cow
December 7, 2016 3:05 pm

the 350 guy’s head explodes –
(got this out so quick, he must have expected it and drafted it)
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/scott-pruitt-stenographer-oil-gas-industry-article-1.2902255

Bubba Cow
Reply to  Bubba Cow
December 7, 2016 3:07 pm
December 7, 2016 3:06 pm

” and has denied the science of climate change itself”
Science of climate change – I never heard about,

joelobryan
Reply to  krishna gans
December 7, 2016 10:23 pm

PSA alert.
Let me help you krishna.
Here is a video showing how the Science of Climate Change is done:
https://youtu.be/y9C0DYjFZLw

Reply to  joelobryan
December 8, 2016 6:39 am

Is that activist J. Hansen or M. Mann in action ?
😉

u.k(us)
December 7, 2016 3:06 pm

“Politics makes strange bedfellows.”
We’ll see…..

December 7, 2016 3:06 pm

Californians “think” like they do because they are high on narcotics most of the time. Once Trump has built the Mexico border wall, give them a couple of years and Californians will cold-turkey back to being more like the rest of the US.

Janice Moore
December 7, 2016 3:14 pm

CLC(not)V Press Release
Edited for Accuracy Version —
“The naming of a climate d e n i e r science realist like Scott Pruitt to head the EPA is nothing less than an effort to undermine restore the agency’s core mission to safeguard our environment.
On the campaign trail President-elect Trump vowed to break America’s Obama’s unilateral commitment to the Paris Climate Agreement,
to open our public lands to drilling (Ed. Yay!),
and to dismantle the EPA (Ed. Let’s hope he does! — Any engineer will tell you: when something is that messed up, it’s better to just wipe it out and start over).
By nominating Scott Pruitt he’s making it clear he intends to follow through on those promises.
“Pruitt has sued the EPA, has fought pseudo-environmental protections enacted by President Obama, and has denied the science of climate change advocated for observation-based, bona fide, science { }.
He represents the very threats goals { }only an anti-science, corruptEPA {w}ould {oppose and should} not be headed {Ed. Note to self: reassign that writer to Classifieds} guided by.
The California League of Conservation Shills for Enviroprofiteers Voters calls on our Senators to reject loudly whine about this wrong-headed Ivanpah solar “farm” and windmill-threatening nomination which puts our families and communities at risk in a great position to become wealthier.
“California has a unique almost no role to play. We are fast becoming the sixth largest the lowest growth economy in the world. The decisions we make here, the policies we create, and how we respond to Trump’s attacks on our environmental protections will determine the pace of progress these next four years.
We must organize to defend our hard-fought victories for Big Solar and Big Wind because every Californian should have to keep those industries afloat with their taxes and power rate surcharges deserves clean air to breathe and clean water to drink.”

Eric Simpson
Reply to  Janice Moore
December 7, 2016 3:46 pm

Great edit job, Janice.
Of course I would edit even further this part:
“California has a unique almost no role to play. We are fast becoming the sixth largest .. the lowest growth economy in the world Mexico.

Janice Moore
Reply to  Eric Simpson
December 7, 2016 4:23 pm

Heh.

afonzarelli
Reply to  Eric Simpson
December 7, 2016 5:40 pm

Yeah, maybe trump should wall off california, too!

Reply to  afonzarelli
December 9, 2016 7:39 am

No need, Moonbeam has already said he would.

Alx
Reply to  Eric Simpson
December 7, 2016 5:59 pm

LOL!

Latitude
Reply to  Janice Moore
December 7, 2016 4:06 pm

Janice can you sneak this in….and get the most Federal aid of any other state

Janice Moore
Reply to  Latitude
December 7, 2016 4:22 pm

Editor’s Correction:
We neglected to include this in our story last Wednesday, December 7, 2016:

… and get the most Federal aid of any other state

With thanks to our alert reader, Mr. Latitude.
(sorry if I guessed wrong about the “Mister” — shrug #(:j) )

jvcstone
Reply to  Janice Moore
December 7, 2016 5:24 pm

suggestion for california–pack your bags and leave. Course, you will still need to purchase your power from places where sanity still reigns–eh.

catweazle666
December 7, 2016 3:16 pm

Cor!
And he’s not even moved into the White House yet!

December 7, 2016 3:18 pm

There is good evidence that the EPA no longer serves the needs of the American people but those of the green activist groups. Recall that Laurence Kulp was replaced as head of NAPAP when green groups did not like the findings of the first NAPAP report that there was no evidence that acid rain was killing trees in Vermont or acidifying lakes in NY.
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2857442

Russell R.
December 7, 2016 3:20 pm

An “Extreme Unprecedented” disturbance in the farce. Millions of green heads crying out in terror as they realized they may have to work for a living, instead of pontificate to the unwashed masses.
When those green heads explode there is no grey matter. Just red pulp, and black or white seeds.

December 7, 2016 3:20 pm

It must have been that meeting with Al Gore that put him over the top. I think he must have seen right through Al Gore.

Reply to  J. Philip Peterson
December 7, 2016 3:40 pm

I had forgotten the meeting until just now. I wonder if Mr. Gore had suggested anyone for the post? This might leave a mark (forehead palm, etc.).

Greg
Reply to  Don Newkirk
December 7, 2016 4:59 pm

He was doubtless try to propose himself for the job !
That’s when Trump realised : “it’s worse than we thought”.

Latitude
Reply to  J. Philip Peterson
December 7, 2016 4:08 pm

..I wonder if Gore made him nauseous

phaedo
Reply to  Latitude
December 7, 2016 9:50 pm

I suspect Trump simply laughed at Al during their entire meeting.
Is there a post of court jester?

Zeke
Reply to  J. Philip Peterson
December 7, 2016 11:04 pm

J. Philip Peterson December 7, 2016 at 3:20 pm says,
“It must have been that meeting with Al Gore that put him over the top. I think he must have seen right through Al Gore.”
That was one HECK of a Gore Effect (: Usually it just snows.

Gamecock
December 7, 2016 3:27 pm

Resist we much!

Janice Moore
December 7, 2016 3:29 pm

Re: “hostile agency staff”**
Mr. Pruitt should replace the entire staff attorney department with science realists.
They can then use the “not a team” player method (and also a science facts achievement test, e.g., “Q: What evidence is there that human CO2 emissions cause climate on earth to shift significantly? Answer: D. None.”) to get rid of all those non-cooperating staff.
— Verbal
— Written 1
— Written 2/interview
You’re fired.
Reason: 1) Not a team player. and/or 2) failed Basic Science Certification written test — twice.
*********************************
**There is no re-training such blindly-devoted-to-AGW (or, worse, corrupted by bribes from the likes of Soros and Ivanpah make-a-buck hu$tler$) people. It would take far too long and cost the taxpayer far too much (with a fairly low probability of success, also).

Paul Westhaver
Reply to  Janice Moore
December 7, 2016 3:48 pm

Janice,
You should assemble EVERYONE’s CVs from this site and forward them to Pruitt. Let us take over the EPA or shut it down!

Janice Moore
Reply to  Paul Westhaver
December 7, 2016 4:16 pm

Mr. Westhaver: The brain power and science and engineering ability and knowledge of the WUWT Science Giants, not to mention their superb integrity, intellectual honesty, and moral courage, would be TERRIFIC at running anything and especially anything that has to do with science.
And I KNOW that most of our fine scientists would work for their costs alone (i.e., enough to simply live on while employed there). For the love of science (and, for many, the love of the United States of America). The best quality for the lowest cost. GREAT IDEA!
Heh. Now, if I can just find Pruitt’s number…… I just know he gave it to me …. (lol).

Reply to  Paul Westhaver
December 7, 2016 4:53 pm

EXCEPT Anthony’s – the rules would require him to leave off running WUWT. (But there are “Civilian Advisory Committees.”)

jvcstone
Reply to  Paul Westhaver
December 7, 2016 5:27 pm

and maybe the BLM also???

Rick C PE
Reply to  Paul Westhaver
December 7, 2016 6:21 pm

If Pruitt needs a list of well qualified climate scientists, there’s a pretty good one at Desmog.org.

Reply to  Paul Westhaver
December 8, 2016 7:18 am

Great idea Paul! I want to be the token representative from Canada and be assigned to the Phoenix office for the Nov-April period (-30C here this week). I would be happy to be the liaison for Canada, or just to make the coffee in the morning.

Eric Simpson
December 7, 2016 3:31 pm

Trump on climate change:
“This very expensive global warming bullshit has got to stop.” -Donald Trump
“Surprise? 1970’s global cooling alarmists were pushing the same no-growth liberal agenda as today’s global warming.” -Donald Trump
“I call it weather. You know, the weather changes.” -Donald Trump
“Obama’s speech on climate change was scary. It will lower our standard of living and raise costs of fuel & food for everyone.” -Donald Trump
“Gore wants us to [take extreme actions because of ‘global warming’], when China and other countries couldn’t care less. It would make us totally non-competitive in the manufacturing world, and China, Japan and India are laughing at America’s stupidity.” -Donald Trump
“With the coldest winter ever recorded, with snow setting record levels up and down the coast, the Nobel committee should take the Nobel Prize back from Al Gore.” -Donald Trump
“The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.” -Donald Trump
“Global warming is a total, and very expensive, hoax! [I prefer ‘scam’]” -Donald Trump
“Remember Cap-and-Trade? Obama outright admitted that his plan to tax businesses on carbon emissions that exceeded his arbitrary cap would drive energy prices sky high. ” -Donald Trump
Trump at NH rally utilizes the conservative crowd to dismiss a leftist questioner: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyulquUwi1Q

Janice Moore
Reply to  Eric Simpson
December 7, 2016 4:11 pm

LOVE it! Thanks for such a fine compilation, Mr. Simpson!
Finally. We have a truth-teller headed for the Whitehouse.
YAY!!! Oh, I am SO HAPPY!!!
#(:))
#(:))
#(:))

Reply to  Janice Moore
December 7, 2016 7:02 pm

Janice you should watch Carlson Tucker on FOX at 4 pm (ET, later I believe at 10 or 11 pm PST) He had a californian “lady” on whining about this appointment. I hurt myself laughing. But in a way truly sad that all that money these people wasted on going to “school” left them with NOTHING. She was asked by Tucker what her degree was that is when the fun really started.It is worth seeing it again for me!

Menicholas
Reply to  Janice Moore
December 7, 2016 7:21 pm

Tucker is on at 7:00 Eastern time, 4 in the West.
Best show on TV…he merrily deconstructs liberal BS.

Menicholas
Reply to  Janice Moore
December 7, 2016 7:31 pm
Menicholas
Reply to  Janice Moore
December 7, 2016 7:35 pm

Oh what the heck…here is the full interview.
But, important to note…he does this to these people for a full hour, one after the other, five nights a week.
By last week I was wondering when they would stop coming on his show, but it appears that they never will, because they never learn!
How can this be?
It is because they actually think they are right!

TA
Reply to  Janice Moore
December 7, 2016 8:05 pm

Tucker tears them up. His lefty guests have that “deer in the headlights” look after Tucker finishes with them.

Reply to  Janice Moore
December 7, 2016 11:20 pm

Her last sentence re hate speech was her unloading on Steve Bannon. … Talk about hate speech ( and thanks guys for finding it , I just rewatched it and I still am in disbelieve by her statements. She is a true “acolyte”

Reply to  Janice Moore
December 8, 2016 6:57 am

Lol that’s just beautiful. A Californian liberal talking about the evils of hate speech while calling anyone with different views to her own Hitler, white supremacist, anti-semite. And she won’t even hear a whisper from the irony alarm.

Latitude
Reply to  Eric Simpson
December 7, 2016 4:12 pm

China, Japan and India are laughing at America’s stupidity.
You know…..this is something nuanced that Trump would not know if he were just a casual reader of global warming…China and India yes…..Japan has been very quiet about it

TA
Reply to  Latitude
December 7, 2016 4:31 pm

I don’t think some people give Trump enough credit for his general intellect and for his understanding of CAGW.

Reply to  Latitude
December 7, 2016 5:54 pm

Latitude, I’m sure Hillary had that “nuanced” thing down pat. Additionally, Obama is always nuanced, and usually wrong.
Nuance can keep you from making timely decisions. Untimely decisions are always wrong.

Menicholas
Reply to  Latitude
December 7, 2016 7:36 pm

“China, Japan and India are laughing at America’s stupidity.”
He who raffs rast, raffs best!

TA
Reply to  Eric Simpson
December 7, 2016 4:29 pm

Love those Trump quotes! I laughed out loud after every one.

Steve Case
Reply to  Eric Simpson
December 7, 2016 5:28 pm

Global warming is a total, and very expensive, hoax! [I prefer ‘scam’]
Yes, a hoax is sort of whimsical, but a scam? – Well, we all know what that is.

Catcracking
December 7, 2016 3:31 pm

Thank you President elect Trump.
Thank you Anthony for you effort to provide the facts and expose the CAGW false agenda

December 7, 2016 3:31 pm

A very eminent UK Construction and Engineering Contracts lawyer was once asked in one of his Seminars on Contract Law and Claims: “what was the most important thing to remember and apply in Court or Arbitration for a successful claim?”. His answer was quite simple, he said: “there are 3 things you must always have and present: the first is true factual detailed contemporaneous records, the second is more of such records, and the third is even more records!”
With Trump in power, and assisted by such appointed leaders such as Pruitt, it is hoped that armed with such records and hard evidence from trusted independent experts on CAGW/Climate Change matters, the whole Western World’s electorates can be persuaded that they have been paying and wasting £billions of their taxpayer monies on policies based on the control of the supposed pollutant, CO2. They can demonstrate with such records and not theories and authority opinions that these policies were never required and in effect, have been environmentally ineffective, unnecessary and a massive waste of money which, for years, has been funding the West’s industrial and infrastructure inefficiencies and decline – driving down our competitiveness in an ever increasing and competitive global market against improving competitors and lowering working peoples wages and standards of living.
The self interest of the electorates would then cause a democratic uprising, to destroy at the ballot box the self interest and power of elitist sections of our countries with their own agendas funded by our money.

Janice Moore
Reply to  macawber
December 7, 2016 6:13 pm

Mister Macawber! Something — has turned up! #(:))

Janice Moore
Reply to  Janice Moore
December 7, 2016 6:14 pm

(for non Charles Dickens readers, that is an allusion to his Mr. Macawber in the novel David Copperfield)

Reply to  macawber
December 7, 2016 7:30 pm

@ macawber, I just bloody hope it is not to late for many elderly in the EU with the coming cold snap as it did in 1963. The whole scenario is setting itself up for a repeat. Go the Weatherbell for Joe Bastardi’s last weekly” Saturday Summary” update (free, I think it was dec 3, linkhttp://www.weatherbell.com/#premium click on weekly update )

Steve Lohr
December 7, 2016 3:32 pm

Wheeee. Fasten your seat belts, this is the 1,000 horse power carnival ride we have been waiting for!

Bill Powers
December 7, 2016 3:33 pm

Allow me to correct a couple of Sarah Rose’s typos:
“Pruitt has sued the EPA, has fought environmental [restrictions to economic growth] enacted by President Obama, and has denied the [politics] of climate change itself.
There now it is a true statement.

Janice Moore
Reply to  Bill Powers
December 7, 2016 4:08 pm

+1

Reply to  Janice Moore
December 7, 2016 6:43 pm

Janice shame! +1776 is much better and much more true.

David Ball
December 7, 2016 3:34 pm

Anyone who thinks this appointment is a bad idea, I ask them; “don’t you want energy independence from middle eastern countries?”

2hotel9
Reply to  David Ball
December 7, 2016 5:06 pm

They will say we should just stop using all that energy. Luddites with smartphones and wifi connected computers.

Brad
Reply to  David Ball
December 7, 2016 11:07 pm

I thought DOE was created in the early 70’s to do just that, free the USA from foreign energy??? Maybe we’ll finally get it right.

Janice Moore
December 7, 2016 3:35 pm

Edited for Accuracy Version —
“The naming of a climate d ee n 1 e r science realist like Scott Pruitt to head the EPA is nothing less than an effort to undermine restore the agency’s core mission to safeguard our environment.
On the campaign trail President-elect Trump vowed to break America’s Obama’s unilateral commitment to the Paris Climate Agreement,
to open our public lands to drilling (Ed. Yay!),
and to dismantle the EPA (Ed. Let’s hope he does! — Any engineer will tell you: when something is that messed up, it’s better to just wipe it out and start over).
By nominating Scott Pruitt he’s making it clear he intends to follow through on those promises.
“Pruitt has sued the EPA, has fought pseudo-environmental protections enacted by President Obama, and has denied the science of climate change advocated for observation-based, bona fide, science { }.
He represents the very threats goals { }only an anti-science, corruptEPA {w}ould {oppose and should} not be headed {Ed. Note to self: reassign that writer to Classifieds} guided by.
The California League of Conservation Shills for Enviroprofiteers Voters calls on our Senators to reject loudly whine about this wrong-headed Ivanpah solar “farm” and windmill-threatening nomination which puts our families and communities at risk in a great position to become wealthier.
“California has a unique almost no role to play. We are fast becoming the sixth largest the lowest growth economy in the world. The decisions we make here, the policies we create, and how we respond to Trump’s attacks on our environmental protections will determine the pace of progress these next four years.
We must organize to defend our hard-fought victories for Big Solar and Big Wind because every Californian should have to keep those industries afloat with their taxes and power rate surcharges deserves clean air to breathe and clean water to drink.”

Janice Moore
Reply to  Janice Moore
December 7, 2016 3:41 pm

This (just above) is a duplicate. Please delete. Thanks!

AndyG55
Reply to  Janice Moore
December 7, 2016 4:47 pm

Worth reading twice. 🙂

Janice Moore
Reply to  Janice Moore
December 7, 2016 4:49 pm

Aw, Andy. That was so KIND of you. Thanks! 🙂

Warren Latham
December 7, 2016 3:37 pm

He’s not even been sworn in yet and he’s got the buggers cornered already.
Whoopee !

TA
December 7, 2016 3:41 pm

Congratulations to Scott Pruitt. He has an enormous job ahead of him. But if Trump supports him, then he will get it done.
The confirmation hearings ought to be fun. 🙂

Reply to  TA
December 7, 2016 4:49 pm

Not for Dems. Remember Harry Reid when Senate Leader pushed through the Senate ‘the nuclear option’ (voiding cloture on filibuster of appointments [previously 60 votes] except for Supremes] in 2013. Now that comes back to haunt Dems big time. And, best part is they know it is coming. And so does Trump. They lived by their rule change after 200 years . Now they will die by it. Constitution Article 1 section 5.2. Rather explicit and clear.

Reply to  ristvan
December 7, 2016 6:02 pm

ristvan, it may be that Dems hope for “Bork-ing” and “Thomas-ing” of President The Donald’s appointees.
I would hope that Senator Cruz trots out all the EPA climate shenanigans.

Menicholas
Reply to  ristvan
December 7, 2016 7:41 pm

The Democrats spoke openly of going full nuclear option in the new senate term.
I think it is only right that the Republicans should do exactly that, and get rid of the filibuster rule altogether.
They were going to do it, why should not we?
If they do, it will mean that a simple majority is all that is needed for anything in the senate.
I say go full nuclear, and ram through everything!

TA
Reply to  ristvan
December 7, 2016 8:13 pm

Yes, the Democrats changed the rules and now they have to live with them. Republican Senators will be the threat to Trump’s nominees, if there is a threat.

Steve Case
Reply to  TA
December 7, 2016 5:30 pm

The confirmation hearings ought to be fun. 🙂
No sh!t!

December 7, 2016 3:43 pm

You can’t expect those that live and thrive in the swamp to be happy about the draining of the swamp.

crosspatch
December 7, 2016 3:44 pm

The schadenfreude is strong with this one.

TA
Reply to  crosspatch
December 7, 2016 4:36 pm

Yeah, he goes from suing the EPA, to running the EPA.

CD in Wisconsin
December 7, 2016 3:48 pm

In many ways, the Green Movement is still living in the Middle Ages and OK AG Pruitt does not conform to the Holy Faith. Hence, as the nominee to head the EPA, he needs to burn at the stake:

I love Monty Python.

leon0112
December 7, 2016 3:52 pm

Will Sessions and Pruitt go after NY AG Schneiderman for his violation of civil liberties?

Reply to  leon0112
December 7, 2016 5:00 pm

I would leave that up to Rep. Lamar Smith of the Congessional Science oversight committee. The new others have bigger swamp draining missions.

Steve Case
Reply to  leon0112
December 7, 2016 5:33 pm

Can a fat baby fart?

MarkW
Reply to  leon0112
December 8, 2016 9:26 am

The EPA has no jurisdiction there.

William N
December 7, 2016 4:13 pm

Awesome. If all Trump can do is stop the epa, he will be a huge improvement and America will Prosper.

TA
Reply to  William N
December 7, 2016 8:18 pm

U.S. Steel says now that Trump is in charge and is going to reform the economy, they are thinking about adding back 10,000 jobs!
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/07/us-steel-wants-to-accelerate-investments-bring-back-jobs-ceo-says.html
The man isn’t even president yet! On a roll, baby! And just getting started.

MarkW
Reply to  TA
December 8, 2016 9:27 am

The article states that the 10K number is for the whole industry, and it’s also contingent on Trump actually making the changes he’s been talking about.

Green Sand
December 7, 2016 4:15 pm

Shit! This new one wants proof! Gavin, Gavin, Gav, Gav, Ga, Ga…..

Alan Robertson
Reply to  Green Sand
December 7, 2016 4:28 pm

gag

Resourceguy
Reply to  Green Sand
December 7, 2016 4:43 pm

Proof you say? Previously it was spoof. Make up your mind while the world turns, turns, turns

Reply to  Green Sand
December 8, 2016 1:09 am

I suspect we may be entering a period of cooling for GISS data…

tom s
December 7, 2016 4:17 pm

Delicious

Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7
December 7, 2016 4:26 pm

Trump’s EPA pick is causing green heads to explode

Oh, for someone to create an update of the infamous “10:10” commercials, showing AGW fanatics’ heads exploding on this news:
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FS5CH-Xc0co&w=560&h=315%5D

Alx
Reply to  Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7
December 7, 2016 6:09 pm

Did the people who made this video really think it was going to promote their cause? And why didn’t the reverse happen; this video promoted as evidence of the the insane ideological zeolotry and intolerance of the AGW movement?

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7
December 7, 2016 9:14 pm

No. Warmists are the ones who want their enemies and their children to explode. Skeptics merely want their enemies exposed, shamed and removed from power.

Reply to  Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7
December 9, 2016 7:12 am

The difference is in the 10:10, they are blowing up kids, while now, they are blowing their own heads.
Come to think of it, there is not much difference. They just like to blow people up.

Paul Courtney
December 7, 2016 4:30 pm

The NYTimes accuses republican ag’s…. Is there a finer example of the saying, “if you want to know what lowdown sh*t progs are up to, listen to what they accuse the other side of doing”?

Roger Knights
Reply to  Paul Courtney
December 7, 2016 5:32 pm

The NY Times did one thing right: they called Pruit a “climate dissenter.” That’s better than the AP’s “doubter.” It’s even better than “contrarian.”

December 7, 2016 4:31 pm

The battle will be in the US Senate for conformation. He will need our support!

Reply to  J. Philip Peterson
December 7, 2016 4:34 pm

Oops “confirmation” – spell check didn’t work for this one…

Reply to  J. Philip Peterson
December 7, 2016 5:07 pm

JPP, nope. You may have have missed it, but in 2013 Harry Reid got his then Senate Dem majority to invoke by rule change the ‘nuclear option’ (simple majority rather than 60 cloture invocation) except for Supreme appointments. He lived by the sword, now he and his will die by that same sword. No regrets. Dems deserve what is surely coming. They invited it.

joelobryan
Reply to  ristvan
December 7, 2016 5:21 pm

“Dems deserve what is surely coming.”
Yep!
Senator Harry Reid’s dishonesty and machinations will now be the enabler for the Trump Admin to dismantle the climate hustle.
They will not be able to stop a single one of Trumps cabinet appts nor any new federal judge, except the Supreme Court nominees.

Eric Simpson
Reply to  ristvan
December 7, 2016 6:35 pm

In my opinion we should give the Dems a bigger dose of their own medicine and eliminate the filibuster for all legislation.
The main argument against ending the filibuster is that when the Dems retake control then we’ll pay a price then. But the Dems would have to control both chambers of congress and the presidency at the same time to really “pay us back.” But that’s not going to happen for a long long time. Especially in the House which is structurally in the GOP column perhaps for decades. So there’s no worries: repeal the filibuster now!

Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7
Reply to  ristvan
December 7, 2016 6:42 pm

You are assuming Trump’s picks won’t face opposition from some Republicans. I’ve found they talk one way when they know there is no chance they will have to back up their words, but sometimes are not to be found when it’s time to actually walk the walk.
Interesting times indeed.

Menicholas
Reply to  ristvan
December 7, 2016 7:46 pm

I agree with Eric. And besides for the reasons you mention Eric, the Democrats will take the next step if and when they have a majority.
Why should the Rs not be the side to double down for once?

joelobryan
Reply to  ristvan
December 7, 2016 7:54 pm

Alan,
2 Republican senators (from Illinois and NH) will not be returning in 2017 for the 115th Congress.
Both trash talked Trump during their campaigns in hopes they could appeal to a few more Lefties for votes. That tactic merely meant more Republican Trump supporters left the box unchecked. The GOP senators who reluctantly (or enthusiastically) supported candidate Trump re-won their seats.
The rest of the GOP Senate delegation now understands they have no friends on the Left, only Democrat foxes disguised as sheep offering a poisoned olive branch.

Paul Westhaver
December 7, 2016 4:33 pm

Anthony,
Get ready to move to Washington.
🙂 !!!!!
so sweet

Resourceguy
December 7, 2016 4:35 pm

Does this mean all of the political prisoners of climate change reach are free to go about their lives now?

Paul Westhaver
December 7, 2016 4:41 pm

California, last year,
passed the,
Assisted Suicide Law.
You can’t knock the green head lefties for good timing.

Resourceguy
Reply to  Paul Westhaver
December 7, 2016 4:45 pm

….and self medication too

Resourceguy
December 7, 2016 4:46 pm

How many heads will explode or is there a proxy for that?

Reply to  Resourceguy
December 7, 2016 5:48 pm

Heads exploding:

Phil's Dad
December 7, 2016 4:52 pm

On the campaign trail President-elect Trump vowed to …
…he’s making it clear he intends to follow through on those promises.
Refreshing

2hotel9
December 7, 2016 4:52 pm

Was out and about today and heard a pop pop pop noise! Thought there was something wrong with my vehicle, stopped, left the radio on and Mr Limbow ‘splained it to me! Pruitt to give EPA an enema, hopefully complete with criminal prosecutions.

commieBob
December 7, 2016 4:55 pm

Jim Inhofe has been a voice in the darkness for a long time. Almost no other congress critter (or any other North American politician) has had the guts to stand up to the alarmists. IMHO, he deserves a big reward. How about it Mr. President?

Resourceguy
Reply to  commieBob
December 7, 2016 4:58 pm

+10

Alan Robertson
Reply to  Resourceguy
December 7, 2016 5:22 pm

+++++

Roger Knights
Reply to  commieBob
December 7, 2016 5:34 pm

wilderness

commieBob
Reply to  Roger Knights
December 7, 2016 6:18 pm

Right you are. A voice in the wilderness. link

Reply to  commieBob
December 7, 2016 5:52 pm

I agree, he deserves more credit than he gets…

PaulH
December 7, 2016 4:59 pm

I wouldn’t underestimate the power of the Green Blob. Be prepared for them to fight like a cornered, wounded animal.

Steve Case
Reply to  PaulH
December 7, 2016 5:35 pm

It’s the green MOB – get it right!

Reply to  PaulH
December 7, 2016 6:38 pm

Thats easy. The German Jäger (hunter) is by law required to carry a sidearm ‘kill shot’. My Jaeger Prüfung preference was always a 0.44 mag revolver (you would know it as Dirty Harry’s Make my day handgun). Always worked great. Never missed. By analogy to other less lethal but more telling written weapons (my three published ebooks), bring them on. Lesser ballistic calibers also suffice.

Russell Johnson
December 7, 2016 5:00 pm

It’s well past time for a total house cleaning @ EPA. Their fascist regulatory over-reach is about to end; CAGW, AGW and climate change as defined by the leftist warmists is nonexistent. ROLL BACK the idiocy!!

commieBob
December 7, 2016 5:11 pm

Talking about exploding heads … There is a movie, Kingsman: The Secret Service in which prominent liberal elites have implants in their heads which protect them but which can also be made to explode. The villain is a megalomaniac who wants to wipe out the human race to save the environment.
My inner twelve year old really enjoyed watching the mayhem. link

stan robertson
December 7, 2016 5:17 pm

Wouldn’t have happened without Anthony Watts. Let’s hope that my hometown guy fixes the EPA!

December 7, 2016 5:18 pm

1. Pull out of Paris
2. Bury the Clean Plan
3. Unleash fossil wealth … maybe mining .. maybe nex gen nuke
The progressive virus is being beat back by secure borders and renewed growth.
It was the dissenting minority that never gave up … the protectors of freedom. How appropo that it took nearly 300M views on WUWT.

2hotel9
Reply to  knutesea
December 7, 2016 5:25 pm

What kills me is America has 2 companies building nuclear power plants that run at a high rate of efficiency and have an incredible safety record. Yet we can’t build nuclear power plants because they are so hideously in-efficient and dangerous.

Reply to  2hotel9
December 7, 2016 7:17 pm

Unwinding sone of the stupid will take longer than other. It the new administration seizes on obvious low hanging fruit they’ll build momentum .. increase middle class wealth .. build momentum towards meaningful innovation

joelobryan
Reply to  knutesea
December 7, 2016 5:33 pm

Have Congress amend the CAA (with Trump signing it of course) to restrict and rollback the EPA authority to make “Endangerment Findings.” That will make future administrations have a very difficult path to restarting the Hustle.
CO2 is not a pollutant. The biosphere depends on it. It causes no adverse health effects in the atmosphere, There is no distinction between a natural CO2 molecule and one from mankind’s burning of coal, oil, or nat gas.

Steve Case
Reply to  joelobryan
December 7, 2016 5:37 pm

In simpler terms:

CO2 is NOT a
   Problem

AndyG55
Reply to  joelobryan
December 7, 2016 5:47 pm

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markl
Reply to  joelobryan
December 7, 2016 7:11 pm

Then what’s all the reference to C12 and C14 I’ve read about? Enlighten me.

Reply to  joelobryan
December 7, 2016 7:24 pm

The CO2 deferral to the EPA was an okie doke. Was an end run around normal congressional legislating. I like your idea. It’s forward thinking. The Marxist control freaks will come at it again as soon as they get another opportunity.
Politics is downstream of culture. The real trick is to make progressivism unpopular. Make it synonymous with failure poverty unhappiness. Deprogram the illusion. Replace it with creativity wealth procreation increased standards of living … FREEDOM

joelobryan
Reply to  joelobryan
December 7, 2016 8:01 pm

Markl,
There is also C13. But no matter which istope forms the CO2 molecule, chemically and spectroscopically, their properties are identical. You cannot tell any apart without a sophisticated mass spec analyzer.

markl
Reply to  joelobryan
December 7, 2016 8:12 pm

Understand, but the ‘claim’ is that C14….derived from burning fossil fuel…is predominant in the atmosphere and growing over C12 and therefore the driver of that GHG. The ‘claim’ is there wouldn’t be as much C in the air if we didn’t use fossil fuels. C12 is naturally produced. I don’t believe that so I’m asking for clarification. It’s a talking point I need to understand the truth behind. Did I make sense?

Janice Moore
Reply to  joelobryan
December 7, 2016 8:36 pm

markl: Either you are not the same “markl” who has been commenting here for years, or, amazingly, you missed the many discussions of the C12 v. C14 non-issue.
This thread is NOT the place to get that discussion going again. You appear to be a troll using markl’s name to toss out a “look at this” diversion (vis a vis the thread topic). In case you are genuinely seeking answers (or for any others who might be), here is a sample of one of the MANY Bart/Bartemis refutations of Ferdinand Engelbeen’s “mass balance” argument which relies on the C12/C14 conjecture:
Bart: “Ferdinand Engelbeen says, August 13, 2011 at 2:24 am: … even if 100% of all human CO2 is absorbed within minutes by the nearby trees or oceans, that is at the cost of the sink capacity of natural CO2, which should have been absorbed instead.
— This is gibberish. The sink capacity is quite elastic. It does not penalize the natural CO2 sequestration in order to sequester the human CO2, it expands to accommodate it. This is how natural systems work pretty much universally. You are hypothesizing a system response which A) would never have attained an equilibrium in the first place; and B) is unlike any natural system ever observed in time and space.
The increase in the atmosphere then is not from an extra natural input, but from the reduced sink capacity by the human imput.
— This is mere assertion. The world does not operate by Fernandian fiat. Sorry. I am tired of arguing this. You are not even attempting to gain understanding, Ferdinand, just repeating the same mantra over and over again. You have been shown to be wrong both mathematically by me, and verbally by Stephen here and Pekka on the other thread at JC’s {Judith Curry’s}. I’m not going to respond any further. Any additional arguments you have to make should be understood to have the following response from Bart: ‘No, Ferdinand… you just do not understand feedback systems.’”
(https://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/08/05/the-emily-litella-moment-for-climate-science-and-co2/#comment-718675 )”
Please, do some research on your own.
You can easily use the above-quoted thread’s comments and also many articles with their accompanying comments listed in my WUWT 10th anniversary anthology — that one was on page 1,221 (free download — see WUWT articles for Nov. 17, 2016 for article “WUWT Milestone…” for link) to find out the answer for yourself. Dr. Murry Salby’s April, 2013 Hamburg, Germany lecture video (youtube) also addresses this issue.
Hoping you are a sincere-but-forgetful, genuine, truth-seeker and not a troll,
and with best wishes for an enlightening bit of reading,
Janice

markl
Reply to  Janice Moore
December 7, 2016 8:48 pm

markl: Either you are not the same “markl” who has been commenting here for years, or, amazingly, you missed the many discussions of the C12 v. C14 non-issue.
Nope, same person. Yes I missed it. Don’t break a leg getting off of your high horse 🙂

joelobryan
Reply to  joelobryan
December 7, 2016 11:02 pm

Markl,
You have Carbon isotopes confused.
C12 C13 are the stable isotopes. C12 is much much more prevalent than C13 (or than the even rarer C14).
C14 is radioactive with a decay half-life of 5730 yrs. it is produced in the upper atmosphere by cosmic rays generating high-speed neutrons which hit C13 to make C14.
Plants take up all 3 isotopes as CO2 in the Calvin-Benson cycle (using the RuBisCO enzyme) to make sugars, which makes cellulose and lignin, which makes wood and nucleic acids.
But the Rubisco enzyme very slightly prefers the lighter, faster (more kinetic) C12 CO2 which biases the uptake of Carbon in plants (and animals since we eat plants for carbon) toward the lighter C12 isotope But there is still C13 and C14 also in plants, thus radiocarbon dating of C14 out to about 10 half-lives of 60k yrs works for archaeologists.
Fossils fuels, by definition, have been buried for millions of years, and thus are devoid of C14 CO2. Biogenic origin fossil fuels are enhanced in C12 over C13 from what is measured in the armosphere and disolved in ocean water.
Thus the more fossil fuels we burn, the theory is that C12:C13 ratio increases with increasing pCO2 (C13 decreases as a fraction). This is what is observed in measurements of ice core samples and other proxies. This is strong evidence that the CO2 increase in the atmosphere is not simply ocean release (Henry’s Law) but is mostly due to burning long-buried fossil fuels. This theory though may be incorrect due to volcanic releases of CO2 and merhane hydrate releases from ocean floors.