In one picture: why you shouldn't get your climate information from the @dailykos

From the department of photoshopped bipolar behavior comes this hilarious photograph that accompanies a headline of doom from the leftist cesspool known as the Daily Kos.

It just doesn’t get any better than this from the Kos kids. Thank you for making life entertaining with this epic failure.

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Tom Nelson spotted it and wrote in a tweet:

In article about the Arctic, puts a photoshopped penguin on the “Ursus Bogus” iceberg, attribution NCAR!

It’s the same fake ice floe that caught out Science magazine a few years ago with the polar bear photoshopped in:

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You can get one with a Penguin (or three) from the photo library, as seen below:

If you like the background it is also available with one penguin:

Or three penguins:

 

But you just have to remember one very important detail before using it:

Penguins don’t live at the North Pole or the Arctic!

 

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UK Sceptic
November 29, 2016 10:04 am

You couldn’t make it up. Oh, wait…

Keitho
Editor
Reply to  UK Sceptic
December 1, 2016 4:50 am

Must be a climate refugee.
🙂

Reply to  UK Sceptic
December 2, 2016 6:18 am

They have been making it up for how long now/

SMC
November 29, 2016 10:05 am

“Penguins don’t live at the North Pole or the Arctic!”
Oh No! Penguins have gone extinct at the North Pole!! The sixth Great Extinction has already Begun!!! Repent for the End is Nigh!!!! :))

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  SMC
November 29, 2016 10:16 am

“We are the knights who say ‘nigh.'”

Reply to  jorgekafkazar
November 29, 2016 12:14 pm

Knights who say “ni”.

Dav09
Reply to  jorgekafkazar
November 29, 2016 6:58 pm

“Oh, intercourse the penguin!”

lower case fred
Reply to  jorgekafkazar
November 30, 2016 5:44 am

BURMA!

george e. smith
Reply to  SMC
November 29, 2016 10:46 am

Well that’s actually a Great Auk; not a penguin.
And it will have to learn to flap faster if it ever wants to get off that iceberg.
g

Reply to  george e. smith
November 29, 2016 4:58 pm

No difference, both taste like chicken

Reply to  george e. smith
November 30, 2016 7:46 am

Actually, penguins taste like a cross between bald eagles and whooping cranes.

BCBill
Reply to  SMC
November 29, 2016 11:07 am

I know you are joking but penguins actually were extirpated from the north pole. The Great Auk (Pinguinus impennis) was the original penguin and the birds in the southern hemisphere were named after them. I believe the extinction was driven by the hunt for feathers and oil collected to offset the effects of the little ice age (down for pillows and quilts, oil for lamp). Clearly another case of cold is bad.

Curious George
Reply to  BCBill
November 29, 2016 2:40 pm

The Climate Change has always been dangerous.

Reply to  BCBill
November 30, 2016 12:28 am

We in Wales called the Great Auk by it’s Welsh name “Pengwyn” , meaning white head or white face. The name then got transferred to the Southern bird. It’s one of the few words to have made a transition from Welsh to English apart from “Cardiff City, Nil “

Griff
Reply to  BCBill
November 30, 2016 6:37 am

Sadly, the final extinction was driven by museums, anxious to get one in their collections before they were all gone…

Frank K.
Reply to  SMC
November 29, 2016 11:19 am

“Penguins don’t live at the North Pole or the Arctic!”
No – you’re all wrong! Without question… ***Cartoon*** penguins, polar bears, eskimos, climate scientists do live happily together at the North Pole, along with Santa Claus, his reindeer, and all the elves.

Mary Christmas Claus
Reply to  Frank K.
November 29, 2016 11:34 am

You forgot about Mrs. Claus! Shame on you! Looks like you’ll be getting a lump of coal this year. It would have to be coal!

NW sage
Reply to  Frank K.
November 29, 2016 4:29 pm

“along with Santa Claus, his reindeer, and all the elves.” … Don’t forget the Grinch!

Gentle Tramp
Reply to  Frank K.
November 29, 2016 5:21 pm

Santa Claus at the North Pole??? Oh – no! Quite wrong nowadays! Santa Claus lives now on a mountain top above Montreux in Switzerland. Not far from and closely connected with the head quarter of the IPCC in Geneva which is – of course – very appropiate indeed:
https://youtu.be/No1TXFpWzrE

Gunga Din
Reply to  SMC
November 29, 2016 1:37 pm

Obviously the reason the penguin numbers are fluctuating in their virtual reality is due to the virtual polar bears in their virtual reality.
Maybe if they added a few more virtual ice cubes their virtual reality would be fine?
There might even be room to add a few virtual seal pups!
(To add some virtual variety to the poor bears virtual diet.)

Hivemind
Reply to  Gunga Din
November 29, 2016 9:19 pm

Virtually perfect !

MarkW
Reply to  Gunga Din
November 30, 2016 8:01 am

Perfectly virtual.

Greg
Reply to  SMC
November 30, 2016 5:17 am

But, but … this is just more proof that “as the climate warms” species are being forced to higher and higher latitudes.
The last colonies of Adelie penguins are now to be found on remnants of ice at the North pole, when “normally” they live in Antarctica. How much clearer does it have to get?
This is a wake up call to the rest of the world and especially all those deenyerz who frequent “false news” outlets like WUWT !

Reply to  Greg
November 30, 2016 7:51 am

The good news, of course, is that the NP penguin population is doing very well- it tripled during the interval between photos!

rocketscientist
Reply to  Greg
November 30, 2016 9:13 am

You might be surprised to learn that only 2 species of penguin actually live on Antarctica. All the others inhabit the southern oceans with the Galapagos penguin living at the equator, although I doubt they’d be riding ice bergs.

Crispin in Waterloo
Reply to  Greg
December 1, 2016 3:34 pm

Some penguins live in South Africa. Not much ice there.

Reply to  SMC
November 30, 2016 8:06 am

I know correlation does not equal causation, but one must note that there are no penguins in the north and no polar bears in the south

rocketscientist
Reply to  Mortis (@Mortis37)
November 30, 2016 9:18 am

Not enough land mass in the southern seas that ISN’T covered by ice sheets for any bears, let alone polar bears. BTW the polar bears are a sub-breed of brown bear.

Reply to  rocketscientist
December 1, 2016 12:38 pm

“Sub-Species”? I know what you mean, but I was wowed when I saw a Polar Bear next to a Grizzly! The latter looked like a cub!

spock2009
Reply to  SMC
November 30, 2016 8:06 am

SMC. Well, there you go. It just shows how warm we are getting. In reality, all the Antarctic ice has been completely melted away so they, in mass “flocks” (?) er whatever, are swimming to the North Poll as they heard there was still some ice for the Cokes.

Man Bearpigg
Reply to  SMC
November 30, 2016 8:37 am

You are not the first to notice this ..

Jit
Reply to  SMC
November 30, 2016 10:39 am

The original penguin did live at the north pole. It is extinct. CO2 had nothing to do with it.

Reply to  SMC
November 30, 2016 4:07 pm

“Penguins don’t live at the North Pole or the Arctic!”
“Oh No! Penguins have gone extinct at the North Pole!!”
And that’s the problem isn’t it SMC! You flagrant denier! You pustule on the buttocks of thinking people! How dare you! Those poor arctic seagoing lizards are completely GONE! Where is your heart? Where is your Compassion?
Will Reindeer weep? What about Rudolph?
/End of Sarcasm. Live long, and Prosper.

November 29, 2016 10:06 am

So has Daily Kos been added to that list of fake news sites yet?

MarkW
Reply to  Chad Lawrence
November 29, 2016 10:25 am

Was it ever taken off that list?

Reply to  Chad Lawrence
November 29, 2016 10:30 am

Sadly, I’ve long envisioned Obama and his WH staff frequenting the Daily Kos on a regular basis, so that they might keep in touch with the ebb and flow of emotions from their constituency.

Bill Powers
Reply to  garyh845
November 29, 2016 11:06 am

Actually it is where they go to get there facts. BOb first learned that the ACA would save the average family $2500 a year in premiums from the Daily Kos. That was right before he learned the part about liking your plan/Doctor and keeping your plan/Doctor. He improvised the the spiel “period end of sentence.” exhibiting that witty repartee of his.”

Tom in Florida
Reply to  garyh845
November 29, 2016 3:03 pm

Obama has stated that he reads the Huffington Puffington Post daily for his news.

Reply to  Tom in Florida
December 1, 2016 7:04 am

And given he never learns anything until he reads it in the news, that gives Huffpo a lot of responsibility!

bobl
Reply to  garyh845
November 29, 2016 6:23 pm

Obama can read!!!?????
My god, if he could do that and manage a junior high logarithm then he could disprove CAGW all by himself!
0.8= C x ln (405/270) solve for C
Substitute into
dT= C x ln (2)
CO2 Sensitivity = dT x 0.5 (IPCC Says half of warming since 1850 is CO2)
Whala climate sensitivity as determined by MEASUREMENT.
( for the interested around 0.7 deg per doubling )

Brian H
Reply to  garyh845
December 3, 2016 7:20 pm

bob;
Voila.

Goldrider
Reply to  Chad Lawrence
November 29, 2016 3:48 pm

Without a doubt the Left now lives in its own little world–they hear no one but each other, withe the NYT ringing the bell in the echo-chamber. Just listened to a self-congratulatory “report” on NPR with some idiots going on about how a giant wind-farm off Nantucket is “needed” because “America’s energy needs will increase.” Think they’ve heard about the big shale gas and oil find in Texas yet???! If you know what’s REALLY going on, the “elite” are sounding more and more ridiculous!

David
Reply to  Goldrider
November 29, 2016 4:49 pm

They’ve lived in their own reality since the 1800’s easily.

Leonard Lane
Reply to  Goldrider
November 29, 2016 10:16 pm

When will the taxpayers be relieved from paying for public radio and television that seem to present only the leftist side of every issue?

Hivemind
Reply to  Chad Lawrence
November 29, 2016 9:21 pm

Don’t be silly. They may be telling lies, but they are telling lies we want you to believe. The only sites that will go on the banned list are those that tell you lies we don’t want you to believe. Which is to say, the truth.
Regards,
Big Brother

William Mason
November 29, 2016 10:07 am

Awwwww Maybe the poor little guy is lost. /sarc

afonzarelli
Reply to  William Mason
November 29, 2016 3:19 pm

OR… maybe he was originally on a great big iceberg in the antarctic and it floated all the way up to the arctic melting along the way.

bobl
Reply to  afonzarelli
November 29, 2016 6:26 pm

No He/She/It (Can’t leave out the LGBTIQ- Alphabet penguins) must have been abducted by aliens – probed and then deposited at the wrong pole, it gets confusing for those out of solar system folks.

gunsmithkat
November 29, 2016 10:07 am

They’re having hot flashes over there.

Rhee
November 29, 2016 10:08 am

dang. edumakashun is sooooo mid-20th century

joelobryan
November 29, 2016 10:12 am

Penguins would make tasty Polar Bear snacks. Which is likely the main reason attempts to establish penguin colonies in the Northern Hemisphere have all failed.
http://www.washington.edu/news/2007/06/05/hitchin-a-ride-stray-penguins-probably-reached-northern-waters-by-fishing-boat/
Next up, Walruses will be seen doing haulouts in Antarctica to escape Global Warming.

Taphonomic
Reply to  joelobryan
November 29, 2016 10:36 am

And here I thought the penguin had eaten the polar bear that used to live on that floe.

ShrNfr
Reply to  Taphonomic
November 29, 2016 10:48 am

A floe foe and all you might say.

November 29, 2016 10:13 am

No, global warming is so bad the poor wee beastie got very lost and ended up in the Arctic./s

Scarface
November 29, 2016 10:14 am

If a penguin crossed the equater on an ice floe, wouldn’t that be a sign of global cooling?

gnome
Reply to  Scarface
November 29, 2016 2:18 pm

True – global warming causes global cooling.

November 29, 2016 10:16 am

I’d go even further. Ignore the existence of the Daily Kos.
However much Kos tries to provoke you by ignoring your existence, do what we did: pretend they don’t exist. Never rise to the bait by ignoring them back. That makes you no better than the very lettuce-themed losers you hate the most.
TL:DR version: when you’re walking down the street and you notice Kos ignoring you, count to ten, pretend you don’t even notice, and walk away.

MarkW
Reply to  Brad Keyes
November 29, 2016 10:26 am

The problem with that is there are a lot of people who are inclined to believe the nonsense DK spouts.
If nobody refutes them, they will continue to believe the DK nonsense.

Reply to  MarkW
November 29, 2016 10:58 am

MarkW,
They want to get a rise out of you. Don’t rise to the bait; it’s beneath you. Politely decline to lower yourself to their level, however inclined you may be to do so; rise above and swim away.

Merovign
Reply to  MarkW
November 29, 2016 11:19 am

They live in an epistemically-closed world. You can’t refute something that is a *core assumption*, it’s not available for refutation.
Over the years, more and more beliefs have become core assumptions, to the point where political discussion across the “left/not-left” divide has become nearly impossible. Not just difficult or treacherous, but *impossible*.
Questioning core assumptions is almost always received as an attack, not a question.
They don’t support the strong form of climate politics because of the data, they generally can’t even describe it, they support it because to not do so would be *evil*, and they certainly aren’t going to listen to any *evil* arguments, now are they?

Greg61
Reply to  MarkW
November 29, 2016 11:49 am

I’m OK with a significant blog site like this pointing out their stupidity. A single click from a WUWT blogger won’t buy them lunch. Just don’t follow a link a give them more clicks.

wws
Reply to  MarkW
November 29, 2016 11:55 am

you don’t have to refute them; just say, calmly and with a smile on your face, “Hillary Clinton will never be President!”
I think the entire climate scam apparatus is going to fall apart pretty quickly now, at least in the US. It was all coordinated to reach a crescendo which would be at its peak just before this election, and – pssssssssssssssssssss (that’s all the air going out of the balloon)
All of these protests and articles and various wailings and gnashings of teeth were only worth while if they could provide cover for a government agency to take some regulatory action it wanted to do already, but couldn’t come up with a legal basis for. (ie, the CPP) But now that Trump and his disciples are in control, there’s no use for that kind of thing, and more importantly, no point for the sponsors (podesta, stein, soros, etc) to go on paying to keep this up. They’ll find new ways to make trouble, but the left’s strategy camp is realizing that they’ve rode this horse into the ground.
The useful idiots are going to continue to make noise, of course. But that’s all that’s going to be left.

MarkW
Reply to  MarkW
November 29, 2016 11:56 am

Brad, yes there are those who are mentally closed. But there are many who are just curious.
PS: I don’t bother posting on sites like that because they delete all comments that aren’t part of the choir within minutes.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  MarkW
November 29, 2016 3:17 pm

Funny you should refer to it as DK, and so appropriate.
“The Dunning-Kruger effect, named after David Dunning and Justin Kruger of Cornell University, occurs where people fail to adequately assess their level of competence — or specifically, their incompetence — at a task and thus consider themselves much more competent than everyone else. This lack of awareness is attributed to their lower level of competence robbing them of the ability to critically analyse their performance, leading to a significant overestimate of themselves.
In simple words it’s “people who are too stupid to know how stupid they are”.

bobl
Reply to  MarkW
November 29, 2016 6:33 pm

I like Unconsciously incompetent – you don’t know what you don’t know, or you are too stupid to know that you are stupid. It’s on a level with.
“A simple electronic brain will suffice, one that can say, pass the tea, and where is my towel, noone will notice”. “I will” says Arthur Dent. “No you won’t” said the mice, “you’ll be programmed not to”.
(Sorry, don’t have the exact text so it’s a praphase)
Love it – very applicable Douglas Adams clearly knew lots about the left.

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  Brad Keyes
November 29, 2016 11:00 am

But walking away gives you away. You have to keep walking the way you were walking when you noticed them not noticing you. Just walk straight over them. Straightaway.

Reply to  jorgekafkazar
November 29, 2016 11:07 am

Pah—enough of these half-measures, Venerable Jorge!
A measured response is exactly what they want, so don’t give them the satisfaction; you have to respond disproportionately, or they’ll just keep ignoring you.
I call it the nuclear option.
Never let them know that you’re aware that they’re pretending not to be aware of you; pretend you don’t even notice them pretending not to notice you

jorgekafkazar
Reply to  jorgekafkazar
November 29, 2016 12:41 pm

Ah, yes, most excellent Brad. But oft I dream of pursuing the knucklear option.

Aphan
Reply to  jorgekafkazar
November 29, 2016 1:35 pm

Brad….gave myself a headache parsing that out….:) But what if you want them to keep on ignoring you? Do you then let them know you are aware that they are pretending not to be aware of you, or do you try to forget that you were once aware that they were pretending not to be aware of you, and thus restore actual ignoring of them…and hope they follow suit?

Goldrider
Reply to  Brad Keyes
November 29, 2016 3:50 pm

That’s the truth! Sites you want to just go away, the way to do it is by not giving them any clicks, shares, re-tweets, or even linking their garbage here. The fewer people who read lies and propaganda, the less incentive for the trolls who are writing it.

Jeef
November 29, 2016 10:18 am

Was it Nat. Geo. or the BBC who came up with the April Fool prank about penguins migrating to the Amazon? These guys have gone next level!

MarkW
Reply to  Jeef
November 29, 2016 10:24 am

During the Olympics, I saw a story about a penguin who returned to Rio every year.

Reply to  MarkW
November 29, 2016 10:33 am

That was Obama; after all, he is half black and half white.

SMC
Reply to  MarkW
November 29, 2016 11:02 am

A little over the top garyh845. No need for that.

Aphan
Reply to  MarkW
November 29, 2016 1:39 pm

Since when is pointing out facts over the top here? SMC….he will be needing a new “white” house to park his butt in/on…and an ice floe is just that.

TA
Reply to  Jeef
November 29, 2016 2:36 pm

I saw that story, too, MarkW.
I believe the man had saved the penguin at one point, and nursed it back to health in his home, and then released him back to the sea, not knowing his fate, and then the next year the penguin showed up at the man’s house, and has been coming back ever since. He spends a little time with the man, and then leaves and swims south to the antarctic.
A really good story. Animals are not as dumb as some people think they are.

DredNicolson
Reply to  TA
December 1, 2016 6:15 am

I remember a similar story about a housecat. The family brought it with them on vacation and accidentally left it behind on the return trip. By the time they realized this and went back for it, the cat was nowhere to be found. A few months later, that same cat showed up at the doorstep of their home, having found its own way back.
What made the story so remarkable was that the family’s home and the vacation destination were hundreds of miles apart. This cat had pretty much traveled across Europe on foot (er, on paw), retracing the family’s route of travel to get back home. It had likely subsisted on wild prey (and perhaps a few food bowls from Good Samaritans) along the way. And you thought Homeward Bound was only a movie.

Goldrider
Reply to  Jeef
November 29, 2016 3:52 pm

The pathetic part is that half the Yale freshman class likely couldn’t tell you whether penguins live in the Arctic, the Antarctic, or just the Bronx Zoo.

jorgekafkazar
November 29, 2016 10:19 am

I’m wondering what part dipsomania has played in this entire AGW/CAGW debacle.

November 29, 2016 10:20 am

My read on the sequence of the 3 above “authentic” photos;
1. Polar bear on ice flow;
2. attacked by 3 penguins;
3. only survivor was one penguin.

Paul
Reply to  MJSnyder
November 29, 2016 12:21 pm

“only survivor was one penguin.”
I thought it was a “well-armed lamb” contesting lunch?

November 29, 2016 10:20 am

Detailed Forecast Sachs Harbour North West Territories CANADA (some would say balmy)
Today Periods of light snow. Wind northeast 20 km/h. High minus 24. Wind chill minus 37.
Tonight Partly cloudy. Becoming cloudy overnight. Wind northeast 20 km/h. Temperature rising to minus 19 by morning. Wind chill minus 37.
Wed, 30 Nov Snow. Amount 2 to 4 cm. Wind east 30 km/h gusting to 50. High minus 13. Wind chill minus 33.
Night Cloudy with 60 percent chance of flurries. Low minus 22.
Thu, 1 Dec Clear. High minus 23.
Night Clear. Low minus 22.
Fri, 2 Dec Cloudy. Windy. High minus 17.
Night Cloudy. Low minus 19.
Sat, 3 Dec Cloudy with 60 percent chance of flurries. Windy. High minus 19.
Night Clear. Low minus 22.
Sun, 4 Dec Clear. High minus 21.
Night Clear. Low minus 25.
Mon, 5 Dec Clear. High minus 22.

Bryan A
Reply to  jimmy_jimmy
November 29, 2016 10:30 am

Jimmy “C” or “F”?

Walter Sobchak
Reply to  Bryan A
November 29, 2016 11:24 am

-40C = -40F
At those temperatures C and F are about the same.

Bruce Cobb
November 29, 2016 10:23 am
James Beaver
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
November 29, 2016 11:16 am

LMAO !!!

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
November 29, 2016 11:21 am

Thanks giving .

AndyG55
Reply to  Bob Armstrong
November 29, 2016 4:13 pm

For all you non-Aussies.

Mike McMillan
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
November 29, 2016 1:35 pm

Obviously a faked photo. Everyone knows the polar bears drink Coke, not root beer.
http://image.sportsmansguide.com/adimgs/l/3/310988_ts.jpg

AndyG55
Reply to  Mike McMillan
November 29, 2016 4:08 pm

NO WAY.!!!
They live in North East Australia and drink Bundaberg Rumcomment imagecomment image

Reply to  AndyG55
December 1, 2016 7:12 am

If they get you the girls, they can live anywhere they want! LOL

lawrence
November 29, 2016 10:25 am

Whilst the photo might be fake, what is the thruth behind the “North Pole heats up to 36 degrees above normal” ?

MarkW
Reply to  lawrence
November 29, 2016 10:27 am

It has, and there is nothing unusual about big swings in temperature in the Arctic during the winter.

Reply to  MarkW
November 29, 2016 10:48 am

The bitter cold in Siberia is just weather. The slightly above freezing temp’s at the North Pole are CAGW. The below normal temperatures in Greenland disagree with the models and are wrong…
/Sarc

Caligula Jones
Reply to  MarkW
November 29, 2016 11:55 am

Yes, and its not even winter.

MarkW
Reply to  MarkW
November 29, 2016 11:57 am

Close enough for government work.

Reply to  lawrence
November 29, 2016 10:33 am

why would you think that there is any truth to the head line? At some point you may have to infer that a story the media prints is a lie.

Reply to  lawrence
November 29, 2016 10:41 am

The North Pole is about 20°C (36°F) above “normal,” Siberia is about 20°C (36°F) below “normal” and Greenland is about 5-10°C (9-18°F) “below normal”…

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AndyG55
Reply to  David Middleton
November 29, 2016 11:34 am

The “less colder” blob has split and is now moving away from the Arctic.
The Siberian “more colder” blob has spread out and is now affecting Europe.
Yes, I know “more colder” and “less colder” ain’t good English… but that’s the terminology I’m using. 🙂

AndyG55
Reply to  David Middleton
November 29, 2016 12:11 pm

And what is going to be really fun, is that the pattern you have shown has been there most of November.
The “less colder” blob is above 82.5ºN latitude, so won’t be calculated in RSS
Its also mostly about 85ºN so won’t show-up in UAH
But the Siberia “more colder” blob will have a big impact on both.
RSS and UAH for November could be quite interesting 🙂

AndyG55
Reply to  David Middleton
November 29, 2016 12:12 pm

errata. third line
Its also mostly ABOVE…..

Latitude
Reply to  David Middleton
November 29, 2016 2:09 pm

“more colder” and “less colder”..works for me 😉

Reply to  David Middleton
November 29, 2016 2:36 pm

At Ryan Maue’s twitter, Ryan asks a few questions, including this one.

“You may have heard or read about extreme Arctic “overheating” and hot temperatures … so why is it stuck at -29°F in Fairbanks Alaska?”

https://twitter.com/RyanMaue/status/803675267390521344
And this spot of information:
From DMI

“Calculation of the Arctic Mean Temperature
The daily mean temperature of the Arctic area north of the 80th northern parallel is estimated from the average of the 00z and 12z analysis for all model grid points inside that area. The ERA40 reanalysis data set from ECMWF, has been applied to calculate daily mean temperatures for the period from 1958 to 2002, from 2002 to 2006 data from the global NWP model T511 is used and from 2006 to 2010 T799 data are used and from 2010 to present the T1279 model data are used.”

Those blazing hot Arctic temperatures are the products of models. Big Surprise!
Hall Land, North Greenland’s temperatures are currently -23C°.
http://www.dmi.dk/vejr/til-lands/byvejr/by/vis/GL/4207/Hall%20Land,%20Grønland/

Goldrider
Reply to  David Middleton
November 29, 2016 3:53 pm

Nature doesn’t recognize “normal.” That’s a human mental construct. My dog just told me so!

Taylor Pohlman
Reply to  lawrence
November 29, 2016 11:51 am

That temp is being measured in Farenheit, makes it more dramatic. Fact is that as of a week ago temps were further above normal in the area above 80 degrees latitude than has been previously recorded (in last 58 years of continuous records) while Eastern Asia/Siberia was well below normal. However, in the past week, the temp Up there has plummeted more than 10 degrees C, to about -18. down much closer to normal, and ice extent is growing again.
The planet has lost a lot of heat, and that’s not good news for us up here in Maine.

Reply to  Taylor Pohlman
November 30, 2016 8:34 am

It is coming to Western Canada this week. We have been above normal for weeks but next week we drop from current -2C to -26C (Manitoba/North Dakota border). Winter has arrived. We will send it on to the great plains/great lakes area just to share.

Stephen Richards
Reply to  lawrence
November 29, 2016 12:42 pm

http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php
As near to the truth as we can get.

Mike Maguire
Reply to  Stephen Richards
November 29, 2016 5:05 pm

Pattern is now re-configuring. Siberian cold is crossing the Arctic and draining into North America, where it will effect Canada and the US.
http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/psd/map/images/ens/t850anom_nhsm_animation.html
Siberia will see milder/above average temperatures with the new weather pattern.

Steve Fraser
Reply to  Stephen Richards
November 29, 2016 5:31 pm

@Mike Maguire: no kidding. Next few days in Fairbanks, AK, it will warm to -3 (the high)’and then fall back to highs between -10 and -20 for a week. Hot damn!

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Stephen Richards
November 29, 2016 8:29 pm

“where it will effect Canada and the US.”
That will be a pretty neat trick.

Mike Maguire
Reply to  Stephen Richards
November 30, 2016 3:26 am

Jeff Alberts,
No neat tricks, just part of a weather pattern, cross polar flow that we occasionally see in Winter, which often results in our coldest temperatures in North America. You may have heard it described as “The Siberian Express” before.
The link provided is updated daily and was posted with a starting date of 11-29, running a loop thu the following 2 weeks at 24 hours intervals.
Going to that link on the 30th, shows the pattern advanced 24 hours from the initial state onward. After that, the value for using that link to illustrate the flow of cold from Siberia to North America will have passed, as the cold in fact has already been flushed out of Siberia and in early December, will have been replaced with air from lower latitudes that shows up as warm anamolies.
Those maps are just anomalies for 850 MB temperatures.

Latitude
Reply to  lawrence
November 29, 2016 2:13 pm

what is the thruth behind the “North Pole heats up to 36 degrees above normal” ?…
The sun’s not doing it. 😉
That’s air temp from the heat escaping from the water…
..and the water was put there by the Atlantic current moving the heat from the AMO
that’s the way it works..and then it gets really cold

Latitude
Reply to  Latitude
November 29, 2016 2:50 pm

here…these are isolated arctic stations. (No UHI) taking air temps
AMO dictates water temp….water temp dictates air temp
..and 36 above normal is still frigging freezing
http://www.climate-skeptic.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/AMO-and-Isolated-Stations.jpg

Griff
Reply to  lawrence
November 30, 2016 6:34 am

That’s exactly the truth -the pole, even during the winter darkness , clocked up temps an astonishing 36 F above normal this month….
widely reported (except on Watts Up?)
“A large area of the Arctic saw temperatures as much as 36°F above normal, further slowing Arctic sea ice growth and even turning it around for a few days. In other words, it was so warm in the Arctic that despite the lack of sunlight, sea ice actually disappeared.”
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-arctic-is-seriously-weird-right-now/
and this IS unusual:
“​The ridiculously warm temperatures in the Arctic during October and November this year are off the charts over our 68 years of measurements,” Jennifer Francis, a climate scientist at Rutgers University who studies the Arctic, said.

MarkW
Reply to  Griff
November 30, 2016 8:08 am

As usual, Griff takes a perfectly normal event, and goes into full panic mode.

John C Johnson
Reply to  Griff
November 30, 2016 6:21 pm

Actually Griff is TOTALLY wrong about these 40 degree jags on days, we had one just a few years ago which was very widely reported.

steveta_uk
November 29, 2016 10:26 am

I like the way the shadow extends over the water. And no reflection.

David Ball
November 29, 2016 10:32 am

I’m thinking this qualifies as “fake news”.

rocketscientist
Reply to  David Ball
November 29, 2016 10:45 am

“This are not the fake news the Stasi is looking for…you may go about your business…move along”

urederra
Reply to  rocketscientist
November 29, 2016 11:07 am

We have always been at war with Eastasia.

Reply to  David Ball
November 29, 2016 12:12 pm

No David, it is Daily CRAP!

Patrick Maher
November 29, 2016 10:33 am

I have it on good authority that they commute.

jsuther2013
November 29, 2016 10:37 am

The shadow suggests a high sun, as in summer. I wonder how long that lone penguin survived in an area full of starving polar bears and tens of thousands of miles from home. Next they’ll show us a polar bear at the S Pole eating all the penguins. Oh, wait, wasn’t that Al G,
The 36 degrees above normal temp, is above the temp. that is normal’ for winter, but that photo was summer. That stupid penguin must have ‘toined right’ at Albuquerque instead of left, as ‘Bugs’ told us.

Joe- the climate scientist
Reply to  jsuther2013
November 29, 2016 12:14 pm

JS – Global warming killed all the polar bears in the antarctic – duh

Walter Sobchak
November 29, 2016 10:37 am

And those are the people who respect science?

charplum
November 29, 2016 10:38 am

Fellow deplorables it is time for pitchforks.
Do progressive really have that much contempt for us?

Latitude
Reply to  charplum
November 29, 2016 2:14 pm

..yes

Reply to  charplum
November 29, 2016 2:39 pm

I’d rather carry the torch and a good stout walking stick. Perhaps a walking stick made out of titanium rod; light, stiff and quite sturdy..

November 29, 2016 10:45 am

The penguin is the start of the great climate
migration due to Antarctic melting. The end is truly nigh.

Bruce Cobb
November 29, 2016 10:49 am

Or they could have used this one, with Christmas coming and all;
http://www.washington.edu/news/files/2013/07/npeo_cam2_20130726131823.jpg

PiperPaul
November 29, 2016 10:52 am
Resourceguy
November 29, 2016 10:52 am

It just dawned on me that this green photo shopped culture is no different from the supermarket tabloids of the previous generation. It’s all about selling feelings not facts or insight. Educational level does not explain it either, especially with lowered standards of degrees and degree programs.

JMH
Reply to  Resourceguy
November 29, 2016 11:26 am

I used to be a photoshop artist. In the early days it was considered appropriate to make deliberate faults in ‘realistic’ photo edits so that it was clear that it is not reality. Now it seems that you can just pretend and lie if the message is ‘worthy’.

rocketscientist
Reply to  Resourceguy
November 29, 2016 11:28 am

IMHO its all about selling ad space, or click-bait, or whatever the current epithet. The “product” is whatever serves to entice the viewer to become lured. That aspect of tabloid journalism has never changed. Now you don’t have to buy it at the checkout line in the supermarket.
“Never underestimate the crassness of the public.”
“There is a sucker born every minute.”
Both uttered by the quintessential huckster P.T. Barnum

November 29, 2016 10:55 am

And I think I see a zebra swimming in the distance with a face full of angst.

AndyG55
Reply to  andrewpattullo
November 29, 2016 11:36 am

red and black stripes from the sun-burn ?

AndyG55
Reply to  AndyG55
November 29, 2016 4:57 pm

whoops.. the burning would be from CO2 back-radiation, NEVER the sun !!

Reply to  andrewpattullo
November 30, 2016 8:42 am

I sure hope all these “climate refugees” have been properly vetted.

Eustace Cranch
November 29, 2016 11:29 am

I think that’s Topper. (for you vintage television fans)

ShrNfr
Reply to  Eustace Cranch
November 29, 2016 11:42 am

I suspect you will have to wait a while for the avalanche of response to the Ghostess with the Mostess.

Pop Piasa
November 29, 2016 11:42 am

Just how surreal that photo is escapes most folks who’ve never seen anything more than an iced-over river in their lives. those tiny ripples just don’t happen on the ocean. those are swells from a good distance around something large.

brians356
Reply to  Pop Piasa
November 29, 2016 11:56 am

The implication of the blurb and photo is that it was taken very recently. Exercise for the reader: How high above the horizon does the sun rise, north of the Arctic Circle, on 28 November?

Steve Fraser
Reply to  brians356
November 29, 2016 4:54 pm

Some places, not at all. Depends on latitude.

wws
Reply to  Pop Piasa
November 29, 2016 11:59 am

LOL so you’re saying that penguin is 300 feet tall??? Damn, that IS a crisis!!!

Aphan
Reply to  wws
November 29, 2016 1:48 pm

But that means that the ice floe he’s riding on is ENORMOUS!!! :)\

Gunga Din
Reply to  wws
November 29, 2016 1:54 pm

Forget the penguin!
How big is that polar bear!!

November 29, 2016 11:49 am

Not to mention there is no sunshine unless you get down to around 70 degrees latitude, and even then the sun is on the horizon.

November 29, 2016 11:53 am

We’re overdue for a geomagnetic reversal in our lifetime.
Then we’ll see just how much penguins like living at the North Pole.

MarkW
Reply to  Brad Keyes
November 29, 2016 12:03 pm

I remember talking to a young friend who actually believed that when the poles swapped, the Earth was going to flip 180 degrees in a couple of hours.

Reply to  MarkW
November 29, 2016 12:21 pm

Haha… yeah we have the same joke in Australia (only in our version it’s Irishmen, not Poles)

Caligula Jones
November 29, 2016 11:59 am

I think everyone is obviously missing the true story: ALL the ice melted in the Antarctic, so the poor penguins had to migrate to the Arctic. And there was not ice there, either.
Or…they don’t actually teach geography in college anymore. Hard to find the time with all the Gender Issues courses I guess.

EternalOptimist
November 29, 2016 12:01 pm

6 year old ice. bargain !!

commieBob
November 29, 2016 12:04 pm

In 2009, Time magazine listed Daily Kos in its “Most Overrated Blogs” section due to the loss of its mission fighting the “oppressive and war-crazed” Republican administration during Democrat Barack Obama’s presidency. link

Oh good. Now they will have a renewed sense of purpose.

November 29, 2016 12:08 pm

ROTFLMAO.
The sad part is there are many published papers also trying to create a fabricated illusion of biological catastrophes from CO2.

Resourceguy
Reply to  jim steele
November 29, 2016 12:42 pm

…and White House science advisers

secryn
November 29, 2016 12:32 pm

Poor little fella probably just floated over from a nearby public service notice about ice loss at the South Pole.

Mumbles McGuirck
November 29, 2016 12:38 pm

The thing that bothers me about these photoshopped pix is that both polar bears and penguins can SWIM. Neither of them are trapped on an ice floe unless the want to be. Is there an orca in the vicinity, eyeing his next meal? Otherwise, neither is hampered in the least by global warming or retreating ice. Sheesh!

starknakedtruth
Reply to  Mumbles McGuirck
November 29, 2016 3:18 pm

Whaaat? They swim? Who knew????

Harry Passfield
November 29, 2016 12:40 pm

Seriously????

Harry Passfield
November 29, 2016 12:45 pm

BTW. At my local Garden Centre store (why are they always Garden Centres) they have a ‘Santa theme’, with sleigh etc. The etc is a polar bear coming out of the ‘ice’ alongside a penguin. The question is, do they (those who design these things) know, or don’t they care?

Reply to  Harry Passfield
November 29, 2016 5:14 pm

They’re selling cute not reality.

November 29, 2016 12:48 pm

The clowns at Daily Kos do not know where Penguins live! They never get out! And definitely know nothing about science.

rocketscientist
Reply to  philjourdan
November 29, 2016 1:52 pm

And yet they still get to vote 🙁

ossqss
November 29, 2016 12:48 pm

I hope this works 🙂comment image

Gunga Din
Reply to  ossqss
November 29, 2016 1:57 pm

It worked. 😎
Is he feeding the south-polar bears?

ossqss
Reply to  Gunga Din
November 29, 2016 4:31 pm

No, much worse than that. They can be anywhere!

Jerker Andersson
November 29, 2016 1:15 pm

They are used to turn things up side down so why not the poles? 😉

Rob
November 29, 2016 1:17 pm

The man made left wing global warming scam is based on junk science, misleading information and outright lies.

November 29, 2016 1:26 pm

Is that penguin supposed to be *stranded* on that little floe? Maybe the northern penguin went extinct because it forgot how to swim.

Reply to  John DeFayette
November 29, 2016 1:29 pm

…oops, sorry, Mumbles.

Jer0me
November 29, 2016 2:20 pm

Never go full retard

TomL
November 29, 2016 2:28 pm

why penguins are extinct in the Arctic – they brought it on themselves!comment image&f=1

November 29, 2016 2:31 pm

The penguins are bigger than the polar bear.
So is it:
1) A north pole GIANT penguin
or
2) A miniature south pole polar bear.
Maybe the DK reporter found a new species. They do a lot of field research for their writing. (sarcasm)

willhaas
November 29, 2016 2:47 pm

//embedr.flickr.com/assets/client-code.js
Hopefully this worked showing kittens on the ice.

willhaas
Reply to  willhaas
November 29, 2016 2:53 pm

That does not seem to work so let me try this:
[urlcomment image[/img][/url][url=https://flic.kr/p/PviJDA]ATP3[/url] by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/22306272@N06/]William Haas[/url], on Flickr

John F. Hultquist
Reply to  willhaas
November 29, 2016 7:49 pm

Try this:comment image

Marcus
Reply to  willhaas
November 29, 2016 3:33 pm

Https error code…

willhaas
Reply to  Marcus
November 29, 2016 7:08 pm

Well I cannot seem to get the photo here. It is on my photo stream at Flickr where I am user whaas987. Performing a search on whaas987 should get you to my photo stream. If anyone can help me get the photo to show here, please let me know.

Tom in Florida
November 29, 2016 3:14 pm

So what is the actual temperature? Still below freezing would be my guess.

November 29, 2016 3:25 pm

On Penguins on the North Pole and the dailykos. A Limerick.
The dailykos website: Fake news.
All misinformation it spews.
In this picture brought forth:
There’s no Penguin up north.
Tis climate change picture abuse. https://lenbilen.com/2016/11/29/on-penguins-on-the-north-pole-and-the-dailykos-a-limerick/

Gunga Din
Reply to  lenbilen
November 30, 2016 1:34 pm

I know I can be a slow at times but I don’t see how this bit of “fake news” helped lead to Hillary’s defeat?
I thought “fake news” only helped Trump.
Or was that news also fake?

November 29, 2016 3:37 pm

Just one more reason why climate (what was the new one?) dumpster? or something… Earth has more than one climate. Climes change! apparently, globally all these geographical areas interact with each other on a Carbon Dioxide type fuzzy temperature level?
Don’t think so.

Neo
November 29, 2016 3:56 pm

So, I guess the Kos Kids are saying that Donald Trump will be the progenitor of a mass migration of penguins from the South pole to the North pole.

Alan Robertson
November 29, 2016 4:00 pm

Gotta hand it to Tom Nelson.
He had the stomach to at least glance at a Kos page to spot the pics..
I wouldn’t go near that rat hole.

old construction worker
November 29, 2016 4:02 pm

Where is Angela Merkel? Fake news and all.

AndyG55
November 29, 2016 4:05 pm

Where’s Mosh, Toneb, Griff and Nick to defend this “climate science™”?
Come on guys, you are letting your side down……. yet again.

AndyG55
November 29, 2016 4:09 pm
Marcus
Reply to  AndyG55
November 29, 2016 4:30 pm

..A great picture is worth a million words…Gotta love it !

November 29, 2016 4:22 pm

That ice-flow started off as a big iceberg when the three penguins set off from Antarctica on their voyage, paddling north, but crossing the equator was very severe on the ice and they will have to swim the last few kilometres to Greenland.

November 29, 2016 4:32 pm

Ridicule will make warmunist microcephalitic heads further implode. This, Steyn’s book on Mann (using law suit material), Gavin bluffing Trump on GISS funding, …

Robert B
November 29, 2016 4:40 pm

Do you denialists know what will happen if the carbon warms the Earth up by 6 degrees?comment image

SMC
Reply to  Robert B
November 29, 2016 4:54 pm

Can Tyrannosaurs swim?

Craig Moore
Reply to  SMC
November 29, 2016 4:57 pm

It depends on whether the giant penguin is chasing it.

Steve Fraser
Reply to  SMC
November 29, 2016 4:59 pm

It would be no reflection…

Vlad the Impaler
Reply to  SMC
November 30, 2016 6:10 am

Yes, T. Rex was a great swimmer! S/He used those little inflatable arm-floats … … …
… … … oh, wait, … … … … … … …

Gunga Din
Reply to  Robert B
November 30, 2016 1:39 pm

A very, very small Jurassic Park?

Reply to  Robert B
December 1, 2016 8:03 am

This is a serious topic! It demands serious comments!
Like Robert B’s.!!! LOL!!!

Alan Ranger
November 29, 2016 5:42 pm

I’ve figured it out …
The penguin ate the polar bear.

Reply to  Alan Ranger
December 1, 2016 9:25 am

How else did it get so big?

November 29, 2016 5:56 pm

Reblogged this on Dave Alexander & Company with David Edgren and Gus Bailey – The Artisan Craft Blog and commented:
Penguin. Arctic iceberg. Daily Kos. Some assembly required.

November 29, 2016 11:23 pm

The emperor penguin (Aptenodytes forsteri) is the tallest and heaviest of all living penguin species and is endemic to Antarctica.
Lovely.

Steve Borodin
November 30, 2016 2:26 am

Leftist cess-pit is tautologous. They can live nowhere else.

Dr. Strangelove
November 30, 2016 5:16 am

“North Pole heats up to 36 degrees above normal”
North Pole was warmer on Jan. 1981 (+1.77) than on Oct. 2016 (+1.63) according to UAH satellite data. And 1981 was not even an El Nino year.
http://www.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/v6.0beta/tlt/uahncdc_lt_6.0beta5.txt

joel
November 30, 2016 5:21 am

Speaking of science: Headline from yahoo:
“Unknown facts scientists can’t explain!”

Griff
November 30, 2016 6:35 am

Why do people get endlessly over excited over the pictures accompanying articles?
The author of the piece does not have any control about what stock image a junior picture editor drops onto an article…

Johna Till Johnson
Reply to  Griff
November 30, 2016 6:45 am

No, but the actual editor does. And you’ve got to admit, that’s a stupid photo if you’re illustrating an article about the Arctic.

Bad Andrew
Reply to  Griff
November 30, 2016 7:08 am

Griff,
You wouldn’t want to mislead anyone with an erroneous picture if it’s related to such an important issue like Global Warming would you? That would be unscientific, if you did, right?
Andrew

Griff
Reply to  Bad Andrew
November 30, 2016 8:00 am

no, I wouldn’t.
and yet on pretty much any online article I see a stock photo attached selected with absolutely no care and attention whatever.
that’s how it works on the internet… it might be an article on cabbage, King Arthur, Donald Trump or Detroit.
It’ll get a stupidly random stock photo.
Get over it.
It is what is in the writing in the article which counts.

Reply to  Griff
December 1, 2016 12:29 pm

Really? So when you see an article on Ford, you always get a stock photo of a Chevy?
yea, in the “fake news” sites! LOL

MarkW
Reply to  Griff
November 30, 2016 8:14 am

If it had been a piece attacking CAGW, Griff would be out there saying that the picture proves the article can’t be taken seriously.

Griff
Reply to  MarkW
November 30, 2016 8:28 am

Ohhhh no I wouldn’t!

Griff
Reply to  Griff
November 30, 2016 8:28 am

I can’t say many of the comments excite me – though there is much excellent humour on these pages…
(Loved the flipper slapping penguin clip)
I just thought we were here to discuss climate?
discussion – that involves stating your position and evidence, then the other guy comes back with contrary points and evidence… you remember that?

Caligula Jones
Reply to  Griff
November 30, 2016 9:50 am

1) Its the equivalent of Van Halen’s “no brown M and Ms”: i.e., if they can’t get something so simple right, what else are they getting wrong?
2) “junior picture editor” is what the author of the piece would have been in the days before the internet. Now, these people call themselves authors (which means they re-type press releases they don’t read about things they don’t understand).

Griff
Reply to  Griff
November 30, 2016 10:20 am

Forest – but it isn’t propaganda is it?
Its a stock photo lobbed onto an article clearly by mistake.
I am pretty sure this Daily whatsit site (never visited!) has some sort of contact us/please point out our mistakes link – did anybody think of pointing it out?

Gunga Din
Reply to  Griff
November 30, 2016 1:48 pm

Forrest Gardener November 30, 2016 at 10:31 am
Griff, are you now suggesting that the image was not expressly prepared for propaganda purposes?

I think he’s suggesting that when the propaganda people went through their file to find a picture to go with the article they either never read the article or stopped at fake news “penguin” instead of fake news “polar bear”.
An honest mistake.

Griff
Reply to  Griff
December 1, 2016 8:19 am

I notice on the interesting article on 1430s cold elsewhere on this website the illustration is Whitby abbey in the snow…
That is a random mediaeval thing in an icy scene.
And that picture seems to have been selected with at least a little thought… can you see why someone asked to find a stock photo to go with a piece on ice or similar might have come up with a random ice floe plus penguin without it being a plot/propaganda?

Reply to  Griff
December 2, 2016 7:47 am

That picture was an actual depiction of the event. Show us the stock photo of a penguin on an ice flow at the north pole.

cc
November 30, 2016 7:41 am

I am betting the 36 degrees above normal in the headline is bogus also.

Griff
Reply to  cc
November 30, 2016 8:04 am

well it isn’t. You lose!
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-arctic-is-seriously-weird-right-now/
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/north-pole-temperatures-sea-ice-melted_uk_5832e571e4b0c6c8bc1632ef
https://twitter.com/ZLabe/status/798622676289875969/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
[Griff, left leaning magazines, leftist websites, and Twitter aren’t proof of anything. It’s just a weather event and who’s to say it didn’t happen many, many, times before we had satellite monitoring? Sorry, no sale. Do try harder to remember that “weather is not climate”. -Anthony]

Griff
Reply to  Griff
November 30, 2016 8:26 am

yeah, except that’s a set of data from actual arctic temp measurements: no left leaning magazines, leftist websites or twitter account created the data – actual science instruments recorded it.
I can’t show you the same data from any skeptic websites, magazines or twitter accounts because none of them are showing it, or this:comment image
why is that?

charplum
Reply to  Griff
November 30, 2016 10:51 am

I can remember Joe Bastardi using a figure like this in his weekly forecasts that he does not do anymore. I really did like those weekly updates and his explanations.
The way he used to explain the figure is that he was not worried about the temperature in the cold months and that his main concern for the ice was what happened during the summer. That is, if the temperatures were higher than normal in the summer then the ice would be threatened. You will notice in the furnished figure that it was warmer than normal in the earlier part of the year. As he said; it is still cold.
I managed to find an updated figure and have saved the website. Indeed, it is warmer than normal for this time of the year but it is still cold. You will also notice that summer was near normal. The figure is here.
https://1drv.ms/i/s!AkPliAI0REKhgYwep2PVw5vNbsV0Mw
I should also mention that not too long ago on this website it was reported that ocean heat was being lost in 30N-65N and 60W to 0. Is it possible that this might account for what we are seeing here?
From what is seen in this figure is there something to be concerned about?

stevekeohane
November 30, 2016 8:01 am

Looks like the iceberg hasn’t melted a bit in the past seven years. Can’t be too warm where it is.

Griff
Reply to  stevekeohane
November 30, 2016 8:29 am

Are we sure its not actually Greenland from a long, long way off?

Mickey Reno
November 30, 2016 12:29 pm

Puffins, you idiots, use puffins… the ‘penguins’ of the Northern Hemisphere.
Then, your fake picture will match up well with the name Puffington Host, a popular, if intentional, spoonerism for another wack-job far-left punditry site.

Dr. Strangelove
November 30, 2016 5:26 pm

Highest temperature for October in North Pole since 1968 (in degree F)
2003 = 74
1969 = 67
1979 = 64
1993 = 62
2010 = 62
2006 = 61
1994 = 60
2004 = 60
2016 = 59
http://weather-warehouse.com/WeatherHistory/PastWeatherData_NorthPole_NorthPole_AK_October.html
It’s the 9th highest temperature so what’s the big deal? Did they make a big fuss in 1969? Global cooling was the rage back then

Griff
Reply to  Dr. Strangelove
December 1, 2016 8:14 am

The big deal is it isn’t just at the North Pole, its anomalously warm over the whole arctic ocean region…

Gunga Din
Reply to  Griff
December 1, 2016 2:38 pm

Hi Grift,
Sorry, I couldn’t help it. (The Penguin made me do it!)
grift
[grift]
NOUN
1.
(sometimes used with a plural verb) a group of methods for obtaining money falsely through the use of swindles, frauds, dishonest gambling, etc.
2.
money obtained from such practices.
VERB (USED WITHOUT OBJECT)
3.
to profit by the use of grift: a man known to have grifted for many years.
VERB (USED WITH OBJECT)
4.
to obtain (money or other profit) by grift.

Gunga Din
Reply to  Griff
December 1, 2016 2:43 pm

Mods, I copied a definition that contained one of the auto-moderation words.
If you choose to leave the comment out, I’m fine with that, but I would like it be looked at by one of you first.

Irv
November 30, 2016 6:35 pm

Why does the person calling himself ‘Griff’ always forget that everyone associated with the AGW temperature altering scam has been caught doing it? ClimateGate revealed the world’s top scientists know it stopped warming in 1998. It’s why it was so important that Phil Jones confessed AGAIN in his Feb 2010 BBC don’t-go-to-jail interview.
He had already been seen plotting with Michael Mann, Kevin Trenberth and others to ruin the reputation of the BBC reporter who said the same thing,
furthermore he himself – JONES is now LEGENDARY for sayin to scientist John Christy in 2005, ”The scientific community would come down on me in no uncertain terms if I said the world cooled since 1998. Ok it has but it’s only seven years of data and it isn’t statistically significant.”
Griff is a classic shill: he seems like he’s got brains to pour piss from a boot till you check what he’s doing – and all he’s doing is political agitation.
He knows all those temperatures are faked, he can’t hide from ClimateGate.
He’s just another shill whose atmospheric chemistry is non existent, and whose propensity to lie is equal to all those people who made money for years ‘counseling’ people that ‘marijuana was like heroin’ because ‘government sighnts sez soe’.

November 30, 2016 7:13 pm

This post is now linked on Real Clear Energy as part of Real Clear Politics.
Anthony and friends have arrived with those folks noticing.
They have noticed before but with the warming fiction being more and more obvious and Trump and friends about to halt the warming propaganda I think Anthony and others who post here will be featured and quoted often.
Being right did not do it. Changing political realities did. Trump, May and maybe others changes the official line. Merkel blew refugees so NOW folks want nuclear and coal not over-priced “renewables”.
This was never about science.

December 1, 2016 8:15 am

Thanks for the laugh. That is hilarious! What is not funny is that many people form their opinions based on this kind of propaganda.

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