Green Panic: Hillary Barely Mentions Climate Anymore

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton speaking at the Brown & Black Presidential Forum
Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton speaking at the Brown & Black Presidential Forum. By Gage Skidmore from Peoria, AZ, United States of America – Hillary Clinton, CC BY-SA 2.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=46849037

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

The Guardian is fretting the the number of times US Presidential Candidate Hillary Clinton mentions climate has apparently dropped dramatically since she received an endorsement from Bernie Sanders.

But what is the real Clinton position on Climate Change?

Hillary Clinton ‘dropped climate change from speeches after Bernie Sanders endorsement’

Transcripts show the Democratic presidential nominee referred to climate change directly in less than half as many speeches after her left-wing rival conceded defeat, reports Climate Home.

The rhetorical shift undermines hopes that climate change might emerge as a key campaign issue in 2016. Boosted by the disparity between Clinton and her Republican opponent Donald Trump, a self-professed non-believer in climate change.

Indeed, the signs were there. During the last six months of Clinton’s primary campaign against Sanders, the transcript log of her speeches shows she was talking about climate change at one out of every two speeches she gave.

But since Sanders endorsed Clinton on July 12, the full focus of the Clinton campaign has swung to Trump. In 38 speeches since that date, Clinton mentioned climate change specifically eight times. Just once every five public addresses.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/sep/20/hillary-clinton-dropped-climate-change-from-speeches-after-bernie-sanders-endorsement

The Guardian speculates that Hillary might just be downplaying her climate views, as they suggest President Obama did in his first term, to avoid upsetting potential supporters. The Guardian seems to think this might be the right thing to do.

Climate coyness was a feature of Obama’s first term (when Axelrod was at the White House). According to analysis of speeches from 2008 to 2011, climate change was hardly mentioned even as Obama began to ramp up funding for climate-related projects.

“He was doing more than he was talking about because he was going incognito to avoid attacks from the Republicans,” said Timmons Roberts, Ittleson professor of environmental studies at Brown University, who conducted the analysis.

Read more: Same link as above

Influential climate activist and Bernie supporter Bill McKibben supports Clinton because he believes in her strong climate views;

In fact, one of the lowest points in my years of fighting climate change came in late June, when I sat on the commission appointed to draft the Democratic Party platform. (I was a Sanders appointee, alongside Cornel West and other luminaries.) At 11 p.m. on a Friday night, in a mostly deserted hotel ballroom in St. Louis, I was given an hour to offer nine amendments to the platform to address climate change. More bike paths passed by unanimous consent, but all the semi-hard things that might begin to make a real difference—a fracking ban, a carbon tax, a prohibition against drilling or mining fossil fuels on public lands, a climate litmus test for new developments, an end to World Bank financing of fossil fuel plants—were defeated by 7–6 tallies, with the Clinton appointees voting as a bloc. They were quite concerned about climate change, they insisted, but a “phased-down” approach would be best. There was the faintest whiff of Munich about it.

To my surprise, things changed a couple weeks later, when the final deliberations over the Democratic platform were held in Orlando. While Clinton’s negotiators still wouldn’t support a ban on fracking or a carbon tax, they did agree we needed to “price” carbon, that wind and sun should be given priority over natural gas, and that any federal policy that worsened global warming should be rejected.

Read more: https://newrepublic.com/article/135684/declare-war-climate-change-mobilize-wwii

I support the view that Clinton toning down her climate rhetoric is a political tactic. Given the commitment to carbon pricing at the Democratic Convention, there is no reason to believe Clinton intends to prioritise access to cheap energy ahead of wasteful government subsidies for renewables. And given that climate is widely perceived to be a “poisonous” issue for many voters, it makes tactical sense for Clinton to avoid references to the hardline green policies which McKibben claims were agreed by Democratic delegates in St. Louis.

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Resourceguy
September 21, 2016 7:18 am

Plot it against the polling numbers to get an explanation. Otherwise they will tell you what you need to know after the election after they finish the claimed mandate list. And it will only be what you need to know, if that much.

BFL
Reply to  Resourceguy
September 21, 2016 8:44 am

Once Islamics take over Europe in a few decades climate “change” will be a dead issue and the U.S. may be be the only one still interested; oh wait I forgot about our Hispanic takeover so we won’t care either…….
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/09/19/watch-swedes-must-integrate-with-migrants-says-government-backed-multicultural-propaganda/
Mark Steyn:
https://www.amazon.com/AMERICA-ALONE-End-World-Know/dp/1596985275
https://www.amazon.com/After-America-Get-Ready-Armageddon/dp/B0076TKQ8E

Paul Courtney
Reply to  BFL
September 21, 2016 5:35 pm

BFL: Thanks for the Steyn reference, He begins so many sentences with, “Ten years ago I wrote…” in columns on so many current news topics, it’s scary! As for Hillary, I am reminded how Al Gore ran in 2000 by avoiding CC (GW back then) and environmental issues in general. He was able to do that because the press corp agreed with him; knew where he stood; knew “exposing” some of his whacky green-activist positions would hurt him with most voters; so he never faced any hard questions on CC or environment lunacy. Hillary is able to do this on virtually any subject, the progressive press will not go after any subject that might make her look bad to people who are deplorable (namely, me and maybe you)(press agrees with her on that, too). Thing is, Hillary can be bought, and if Warren Buffet decides to sell his RR oil shipping shares and buy coal (cheap!), and sends the Clinton Foundation a hundred mil or so, Hillary will find a way to “triangulate” a revival of coal (all she would need to do is pull the EPA’s foot off coal cos. necks, and tell her green friends she wasn’t doing that at all). Am I too cynical to think she’d lie to her friends?

Barbara
Reply to  BFL
September 21, 2016 7:26 pm

GreenBiz, Aug 7, 2015
Interview:
‘Carbon War Room’s Peter Boyd on the ‘entrepreneurial NGO’
“We wanted to get a letter in Christiana Figures’ lap that effectively said ‘ Dear Christiana Figures’, we call on you to call on governments to put a zero emissions by 2050 ambition employed in the text.”
The Carbon War Room and the Rocky Mountain Institute merged in December 2014.
The CGI has partnered with the Carbon War Room and the Rocky Mountain Institute.
Jose Figures, Carbon War Room, is the brother of Christiana.
http://www.greenbiz.com/article/carbon-war-rooms-peter-boyd-entrepreneurial-ngo
Jigar Shah mentioned in this interview article also in Greenpeace USA.
Vermont might also be interested in this article. A Carbon War Room Board member resides in Vermont.

Barbara
Reply to  BFL
September 22, 2016 1:25 pm

NREL
Solar information.
‘Dynamic Maps, GIS Data, & Analysis Tools’
http://www.nrel.gov/gis/solar.html
————————————————————————————–
Natural Resources Canada, 2016
‘Photovoltaic and solar resource maps’
Municipality database of photovoltiacs (PV) Potential and Insolation
http://www.nrcan.gc.ca/18366
Why not look at the facts when discussing PV potential?
Here, there is comparison information for the U.S and Canada.

johnanother
Reply to  BFL
September 28, 2016 6:05 pm

Paul C 5;35.
Once the Protection Racket wins its shot at the General Election, they don’t have much to worry about in the way of competition for boutique PC issues. Who are they going to vote for?.
Besides, why worry about voters when your cash machine is firmly planted between the government and whatever kickback you want?

ShrNfr
September 21, 2016 7:21 am

She is toast anyway. Her neurological problems were evident in her left eye movements at the Temple speech in Phia. She lost coordination in eye movement. The left eye turned horribly inwards to her nose while the right eye was viewing full forward.
In any event, the fact that she would state anything that is the expedient of the past femto-second is unsurprising.

Griff
Reply to  ShrNfr
September 21, 2016 7:53 am

Its just the camera angle…

ClimateOtter
Reply to  Griff
September 21, 2016 8:11 am

I’m sure you can provide a picture from that very camera angle at that very speech, to prove your claim.

Greg
Reply to  Griff
September 21, 2016 8:30 am

Yes, more wishful thinking than anything else IMO.
The number of medical ‘incidents’ is looking worrying, but don’t hold your breath about here falling over before the election. The devil takes care of his own.
I was quite amazed when I found out about the Clinton Defence Fund and how many times she’s been fined. Trump ain’t joking when he calls her crooked Hillary. The problem is he says so many outrageous things that no one takes much notice.

MarkW
Reply to  Griff
September 21, 2016 8:51 am

I’m sure that’s what your handlers told you to say.

BFL
Reply to  Griff
September 21, 2016 8:53 am

That is the eye that she wore the prism glasses on for double vision problems after the head injury/blood clot in a venous brain drain circuit and which clot type almost never goes completely away (so still may have brain pressure issues). So could still be having problems with that eye which wouldn’t be a sign that all is okay. Then there is the finger squeeze (supposedly) neurological quicky test at 911 event, the blue Z1 glasses for preventing light flash seizures and also leg weakness, but most assuredly she is is in nearly perfect health except for the required recuperation rest schedule from the “pneumonia”.

Stewart Pid
Reply to  Griff
September 21, 2016 10:06 am

Grif u say the most illogical things …. please give some proof of the camera angle causing that eye offset.
However your eye observation skills far exceed your climate science knowledge 😉

Marcus
Reply to  Griff
September 21, 2016 10:37 am

..Well, I hope you were trying to make a joke Griff, because that was the dumbest statement of the Century if you actually meant it ?

Joel Snider
Reply to  Griff
September 21, 2016 12:26 pm

Never stop trying to sell it, do you, Grift?

MarkW
Reply to  Griff
September 21, 2016 2:54 pm

And to think, just yesterday he was trying to convince everyone that he’s a conservative.

JohnKnight
Reply to  Griff
September 21, 2016 8:13 pm

Griff, she wore Fresnel lens glasses when she testified before Congress regarding Benghazi . . so either that was her just being silly or she was experiencing problems such as we see in this case .. take your pick, I guess ; )

Dr James Fosser
Reply to  Griff
September 21, 2016 8:37 pm

Dearest Griff. Throughout the Philly speech? For her I am afraid. I have a Master of Neuroscience and believe me when I say that the ‘eye oddities are not due to your ”camera angles”!

Dr James Fosser
Reply to  Griff
September 21, 2016 8:45 pm

I am sure that Mr Trump is being briefed by his aides to ask her provocative questions such that they will invoke her neurological problems to maximum effect to the benefit of both Mr Trump and the Republican party! (and the American people).

Griff
Reply to  Griff
September 22, 2016 1:04 am

Its just the way it looks in that one still. Rest of video looks fine to me.
http://www.snopes.com/clinton-bizarre-eye-movements/
“The caption on the video claimed it was taken from a speech Clinton delivered on 19 September 2016 in Philadelphia. Although that video is zoomed in close on Hillary Clinton’s face, the full video of her speech reveals nothing particularly strange or alarming about her eye movements”

Caligula Jones
Reply to  Griff
September 22, 2016 7:04 am

Yes, just like the Black Knight’s “its just a flesh wound”.

ralfellis
Reply to  ShrNfr
September 21, 2016 8:47 am

My estimation, is that Clinton suffers from pettit-mal epilepsy. A condition I have lived alongside for years, and can recognise its symptoms from a mile away.
In petit-mal, the patient does not fall over, they just stand there in a trance, as if switched off. They are completely unresponsive, although may whisper incoherently, and the eyes lose focus and stare into the middle distance. They can also be led by the shoulder and arm to a place of more safety, like a sofa, and they will walk with small steps as if in a dream, but may stumble and fall if led over uneven ground.
And while medication is available for this condition, prescriptions like epiIim can send the patient into a stupour. If Clinton wants to stay sharp for debates and cameras, she cannot take this type of medication. But the wearing of Zeiss blue glasses is known to reduce episodes, if they are triggered by sunlight. And Clinton was indeed wearing Zeiss blue sunglasses, on a day when nobody else was wearing sunglasses.
But if this is a realistic diognosis, it will be difficult to keep secret for long, as patients normally have regular (daily) events. Yet the calm response of the security detail may indicate this is already the case. Nobody seemed surprised that she became a walking, stumbling robot, and then a deadweight sack of potatos – they just took their positions to assist and to shield the event from the cameras. This rather suggests that this is already a regular event, and they have a routine in place to deal with it.
R

ralfellis
Reply to  ShrNfr
September 21, 2016 8:48 am

My estimation, is that Clinton suffers from pettit-mal epilepsy. A condition I have lived alongside for years, and can recognise its symptoms from a mile away.
In petit-mal, the patient does not fall over, they just stand there in a trance, as if switched off. They are completely unresponsive, although may whisper incoherently, and the eyes lose focus and stare into the middle distance. They can also be led by the shoulder and arm to a place of more safety, like a sofa, and they will walk with small steps as if in a dream, but may stumble and fall if led over uneven ground.
And while medication is available for this condition, prescriptions like epiIim can send the patient into a stupour. If Clinton wants to stay sharp for debates and cameras, she cannot take this type of medication. But the wearing of Zeiss blue glasses is known to reduce episodes, if they are triggered by sunlight. And Clinton was indeed wearing Zeiss blue sunglasses, on a day when nobody else was wearing sunglasses.
But if this is a realistic diognosis, it will be difficult to keep secret for long, as patients normally have regular (daily) events. Yet the calm response of the security detail may indicate this is already the case. Nobody seemed surprised that she became a walking, stumbling robot, and then a deadweight sack of potatos – they just took their positions to assist and to shield the event from the cameras. This rather suggests that this is already a regular event, and they have a routine in place to deal with it.
R

ralfellis
Reply to  ShrNfr
September 21, 2016 8:51 am

My estimation, is that CIinton suffers from petiit-maI epiIepsy. A condition I have lived alongside for years, and can recognise its symptoms from a mile away.
In petiit-maI, the patient does not fall over, they just stand there in a trance, as if switched off. They are completely unresponsive, although may whisper incoherently, and the eyes lose focus and stare into the middle distance. They can also be led by the shoulder and arm to a place of more safety, like a sofa, and they will walk with small steps as if in a dream, but may stumble and fall if led over uneven ground.
And while medication is available for this condition, prescriptions like epiIim can send the patient into a stupour. If CIinton wants to stay sharp for debates and cameras, she cannot take this type of medication. But the wearing of Zeiss blue glasses is known to reduce episodes, if they are triggered by sunlight. And CIinton was indeed wearing Zeiss blue sunglasses, on a day when nobody else was wearing sunglasses.
But if this is a realistic diognosis, it will be difficult to keep secret for long, as patients normally have regular (daily) events. Yet the calm response of the security detail may indicate this is already the case. Nobody seemed surprised that she became a walking, stumbling robot, and then a deadweight sack of potatos – they just took their positions to assist and to shield the event from the cameras. This rather suggests that this is already a regular event, and they have a routine in place to deal with it.
R

ralfellis
Reply to  ShrNfr
September 21, 2016 9:34 am

My estimation, is that CIinton suffers from petit-maI epiIepsy. A condition I have lived alongside for years, and can recognise its symptoms from a mile away.
In petit-maI, the patient does not fall over, they just stand there in a trance, as if switched off. They are completely unresponsive, although may whisper incoherently, and the eyes lose focus and stare into the middle distance. They can also be led by the shoulder and arm to a place of more safety, like a sofa, and they will walk with small steps as if in a dream, but may stumble and fall if led over uneven ground.
And while mediication is available for this condition, prescriptions like epiIim can send the patient into a stupour. If CIinton wants to stay sharp for debates and cameras, she cannot take this type of mediication. But the wearing of Zeiss blue glasses is known to reduce episodes, if they are triggered by sunlight. And CIinton was indeed wearing Zeiss blue sungIasses, on a day when nobody else was wearing sungIasses.
But if this is a realistic diagnosis, it will be difficult to keep secret for long, as patients normally have regular (daily) events. Yet the calm response of the security detail may indicate this is already the case. Nobody seemed surprised that she became a walking, stumbling automaton, and then a deadweight sack of potatos – they just took their positions to assist and to shield the event from the cameras. This rather suggests that this is already a regular event, and they have a routine in place to deal with it.
R

Krudd Gillard of the Commondebt of Australia
Reply to  ShrNfr
September 21, 2016 3:23 pm

Thanks, ShrNfr, easy to find on Youtube. Anyone watching this can see she is not well in some serious way. While she reads competently from her notes, there is little energy. However, it is her generally comportment that is disturbing. There are the eyes, head bobs, the strange gurning smile, the weird looking upwards faces. The speech barely goes for 30 minutes and starts about a minute after she climbs to the stage. There is a Getty photo showing her being assisted up the stairs. After the speech, there is barely a minute more on stage (with assistants materialising in force to be within arms reach of her) and then she is wisked away.
Obviously, this was a good day.

E.M.Smith
Editor
Reply to  Krudd Gillard of the Commondebt of Australia
September 22, 2016 10:46 am

“Gurning”, what a wonderful word! Thanks…
Like “making a face” in American, but with just a bit of derision in the sound of it…

Latitude
September 21, 2016 7:21 am

…she just forgot

Greg
Reply to  Latitude
September 21, 2016 8:39 am

This one’s much more interesting. No idea whether it’s faked of course, but if it is it’s well done.

Latitude
Reply to  Greg
September 21, 2016 9:24 am

funny but fake

Bryan A
Reply to  Greg
September 21, 2016 10:36 am

As if the cheap music (Production Score) isn’t a clue to the clip’s artificiality and the 32 second intro of self promotion of the responsible group, the eye motions are quite obviously faked by the producers

BFL
Reply to  Greg
September 21, 2016 11:36 am

Now that’s funny! Obviously a shape shifting alien.

JimB
Reply to  Greg
September 21, 2016 2:45 pm

Fly on her nose.

John Harmsworth
Reply to  Greg
September 21, 2016 5:22 pm

Hmmmmm….. I don’t think she’s funny but she sure is fake!

Greg
Reply to  Greg
September 21, 2016 11:13 pm

Another one doing the rounds it that it was body double who came out of Chelsea’s apartment. I suggest anyone wanting to check that compares images of Clinton arriving at 9/11 memorial site and images of here getting into her SUV after the photo op. at the appt.
Look at the ear shape. You could find a good look alike but you are very unlikely to find one with the same ears !
Ears look the same to me. Don’t get excited, she’s not dead yet. !

Robert from oz
Reply to  Greg
September 22, 2016 1:18 am

Wasn’t Marty Feldman her brother ?

ralfellis
Reply to  Latitude
September 21, 2016 9:03 am

My estimation, is that CIinton suffers from petiit-maI epiIepsy. A condition I have lived alongside for years, and can recognise its symptoms from a mile away.
In petiit-maI, the patient does not fall over, they just stand there in a trance, as if switched off. They are completely unresponsive, although may whisper incoherently, and the eyes lose focus and stare into the middle distance. They can also be led by the shoulder and arm to a place of more safety, like a sofa, and they will walk with small steps as if in a dream, but may stumble and fall if led over uneven ground.
And while mediication is available for this condition, prescriptions like epiIim can send the patient into a stupour. If CIinton wants to stay sharp for debates and cameras, she cannot take this type of mediication. But the wearing of Zeiiss blue glasses is known to reduce episodes, if they are triggered by sunlight. And CIinton was indeed wearing Zeiiss blue sungIasses, on a day when nobody else was wearing sungIasses.
But if this is a realistic diagnosis, it will be difficult to keep secret for long, as patients normally have regular (daily) events. Yet the calm response of the security detail may indicate this is already the case. Nobody seemed surprised that she became a walking, stumbling automaton, and then a deadweight sack of potatos – they just took their positions to assist and to shield the event from the cameras. This rather suggests that this is already a regular event, and they have a routine in place to deal with it.
R

george e. smith
Reply to  Latitude
September 21, 2016 11:06 am

Well for Griff’s information, the camera angle is quite obvious, specially to optical engineers.
The Camera is straight out in front of the center of that picture.
Clinton may be looking towards her right, but the camera sure isn’t. How come only her left eye is off kilter WRT everything else in the entire picture.
And by the way; I am NOT endorsing the claim that this picture shows her eyes are out of whack.
They may be, but a person with quite normal vision (not me) could separate their eye pointing this much.
I have a retinal blind spot in my right eye towards the lower left. I can’t see anything that is close to my face and below my left cheek, with my right eye. So If I look at something in that general vicinity, I’m sure my right eye and left eye pick different optical axes to get the best view for each eye.
Cameras don’t have the optical problems my eye has.
G

MarkW
September 21, 2016 7:22 am

Perhaps it’s another thing that she has forgotten?

Walter Sobchak
Reply to  MarkW
September 21, 2016 7:45 am

If she can forget to drink water, she can forget anything.

MarkW
September 21, 2016 7:23 am

“The Guardian speculates that Hillary might just be downplaying her climate views, as they suggest President Obama did in his first term, to avoid upsetting potential supporters. The Guardian seems to think this might be the right thing to do.”
Another leftist organization which supports lying to the public. Color me surprised.

Resourceguy
Reply to  MarkW
September 21, 2016 7:39 am

That’s the most likely explanation.

Margaret Smith
Reply to  Resourceguy
September 21, 2016 12:49 pm

Over here in the UK I noticed Obama stopped mentioning through Climate while campaigning for a second term. Then, after he was elected, the subject was back and centre stage. It worked for him so Hillary hopes it will work for her. She’s a politician – what do you expect? And politicians wonder why their rating is so low.

Reply to  Resourceguy
September 21, 2016 2:12 pm


Your are right. Obama didn’t bring up Climate Change. The Media didn’t bring it up.
And Romney was too much of an empty suit to bring it up.

ironicman
Reply to  Resourceguy
September 21, 2016 9:43 pm

Its a hot potato, but Donald might be just the man to run with it. He will need some help with the science..

Reply to  MarkW
September 21, 2016 8:53 am

HRC really got burned with her comment that mines will close and miners will loose their jobs in her administration. I think her advisors told her not to get near the subject again.
Also, she knows her opponent can hammer her with actual increases in electricity prices because of “renewals” ; a part of the Obama legacy from which she needs some distance.

SMC
Reply to  George Daddis
September 21, 2016 10:12 am

Don’t forget, she is also going to raise taxes on the middle class.

Reply to  George Daddis
September 21, 2016 12:56 pm

And then there is this coming down the pipe,: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/09/21/court-date-costly-power-plan/
Breitbart news just today.

TA
Reply to  George Daddis
September 21, 2016 5:15 pm

“HRC really got burned with her comment that mines will close and miners will loose their jobs in her administration. I think her advisors told her not to get near the subject again.”
Yes, I think that is the reason. Hillary is already losing West Virginia, Ohio, Michigan, and maybe Pennsylvania to Trump because of her stance on coal. So she is staying away from that topic as much as possible.

Barbara
Reply to  George Daddis
September 21, 2016 8:49 pm

And Michigan facing a power shortfall. Not good for Michigan manufacturing.

Editor
Reply to  MarkW
September 21, 2016 11:55 am

Another leftist organization which supports lying to the public.“. Green taqqiyyah.

john
September 21, 2016 7:29 am

Speaking of ‘Climate Refugees’…
Nancy Pelosi’s Congressional District Has Taken In Zero Syrian Refugees
http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/21/nancy-pelosis-congressional-district-h
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi has been a vocal backer of President Obama’s (ultimately successful) plan to import a minimum of 10,000 Syrian refugees by the end of the fiscal year, at one point accusing Republicans of “slamming the door on mothers and children.” But with just days remaining in the 2016 Fiscal Year, Pelosi’s own district has yet to resettle a single Syrian refugee.

MarkW
Reply to  john
September 21, 2016 8:52 am

Her district is already heavily Democrat.

ClimateOtter
Reply to  MarkW
September 21, 2016 9:03 am

MarkW, as with wind turbines in my area, it is probably a case of NIMVY- Never In My Voter’s (back)Yards.

Resourceguy
September 21, 2016 7:42 am

It’s that touch of tension that squeezes the blood out of a turnip. That’s part of the reason for the short renewal periods for tax credits on renewables. All of the decisions makers rake in millions in the process.

JonA
September 21, 2016 7:46 am

Wattsupwithalltheguardianlinkstoday?
The Guardian is so relevant that it now postscripts articles with a begging note. Perhaps
some of regular BTL contributors should pony up instead of constant sealioning/circle jerking.

tadchem
September 21, 2016 7:46 am

Nearly everything that comes out of her mouth is designed to appeal to some pre-defined voting bloc – aka “special interest group”. Once she feels she has a group in her pocket/purse, she starts taking them for granted and focuses on appealing to the next group. She must feel that with Sanders’ endorsement she has the far left greens in her pocket/purse.
Her only true cause and loyalty is to her six and seven-figure patrons, who can expect to get government appointments after the election.
It is all very Machiavellian.

Bennett In Vermont
Reply to  tadchem
September 21, 2016 5:48 pm

+10 Spot on.

john
September 21, 2016 7:58 am

Panic is probably putting it mildly. Man who is offering money for dirt on Trump has a REALLY BIG PROBLEM (and so doesn’t Hillary)…
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-20/money-laundering-scheme-exposed-14-pro-clinton-super-pacs-non-profits-implicated
Here is the list:
http://www.thecitizensaudit.com/2016/09/12/pro-clinton-organizations-share-office-space/

1saveenergy
September 21, 2016 8:04 am

Like ALL politicians, she will do/not do, say/not say, anything that maximizes votes; after that they keep their pals happy & sod every one else till next elections

Paul Westhaver
September 21, 2016 8:10 am

Hillary the snake?
We know what she is… fundamentally… so what she will do if president is no mystery. Her words at this point are those of the vulnerable frozen snake.

Bruce Cobb
September 21, 2016 8:21 am

What’s important is what she would do if president. And we know what that is; she has every intention of continuing and/or ramping up what Obama started. You can take that to the bank.

Paul Westhaver
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
September 21, 2016 8:29 am

ditto

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
September 21, 2016 4:03 pm

Only to the extent that it is profitable to her … wrt money, power, or acclaim.

richard
September 21, 2016 8:27 am
September 21, 2016 8:38 am

And then there is Theresa May of course. Poor old Guardian is going through a rough patch.

stephana
September 21, 2016 8:54 am

It might also have something to do with her claim to install 5 million solar panels in her first term. Who is going to pay for this? What will the effect be to the power grid? Simple math show that that would be 3426 panels installed per day, which I think is quite a lot.

Bubba Cow
Reply to  stephana
September 21, 2016 9:26 am

500,000,000 was the claim

john
Reply to  Bubba Cow
September 21, 2016 9:38 am
Reply to  stephana
September 21, 2016 9:39 am

That would be 500 million solar panels she wants to have installed.

Dipchip
Reply to  goldminor
September 21, 2016 10:47 am

How many solar panels for this project? Blythe Mesa Solar Power Project 484 megawatts.
Where is this project at after 6 years down from 1000 megawatts ? google: Blythe Mesa Solar Power Project

Bryan A
Reply to  stephana
September 21, 2016 10:40 am

3426 Panels per day would equate to about 2 houses per day per state at 5M
At 500M it would be 200 houses per day per state
Which still won’t do anything at night or during Storm Times with strong cloud cover

Bryan A
Reply to  Bryan A
September 21, 2016 12:32 pm

Shoot, Even Tesla’s magical $50,000 80kWH battery would be terribly cost ineffective, unless you were recharging your Tesla, but paying $3,500 for a 10kWH battery every 3 years would be like adding $100 per month to your “Free” electricity.

Bryan A
Reply to  Bryan A
September 21, 2016 12:40 pm

Well, so much for the Tesla 10kWH battery. It has been discontinued…Why???
Perhaps so they could sell you 3 of the less expensive 6.4kWH models that will deliver 3.3KW each

Griff
Reply to  Bryan A
September 22, 2016 1:12 am

right – but during the day is when demand is highest, a lot of places…

MarkW
Reply to  Bryan A
September 22, 2016 7:43 am

Demand is highest around 5pm as people get home, fire up the AC, start cooking, etc.
That’s well after the peak solar.
This has been explained to you before Griff. Why do you keep trying to push these tired lies?

Griff
Reply to  Bryan A
September 22, 2016 8:21 am

This seems to show some US places where demand on hot days peaks from 3pm to 6pm – a time when there is still plenty of solar to go round.
https://blog.opower.com/2012/09/hot-and-heavy-energy-usage-how-the-demand-and-price-for-electricity-skyrocketed-on-a-100-day/
It particularly mentions the need to fire up peaker plants at extra cost during those times.
I’ll check further as I believe in some southern/south western areas the peak demand is much nearer noon.

E.M.Smith
Editor
Reply to  Bryan A
September 22, 2016 11:05 am

Solar is a good match to summer A/C demand in places like Arizona and California (south). Unfortunately, there are 3 other seasons, night lighting, and anything north of Las Vegas or east of Dallas to deal with…
Yes. It’s a nice nitch player for June to August in L.A. So what.
Doesn’t do a darned thing for the Central Valley under tule fog for Oct to Dec ( I grew up with it… sometimes you don’t see the sun for a month…it is cold and dank, you need heat and lights.)

Resourceguy
September 21, 2016 8:58 am

The new pricing formula is out for Clinton words. It will cost you $100,000 per word in the new pricing structure. There are no discounts for student campus activity fees or Greens. Pay up or get left out in the ……cold. All sovereign wealth funds are welcome, including petrodollar funds.

September 21, 2016 9:01 am

The only reassuring thing about Hillary Rodham Clinton on the environmental policy is that she is so dishonest that she will probably not deliver on many of the promises she has made to the greens, either.

observa
September 21, 2016 9:32 am

There’s climate change going on alright but like our ‘so little runoff the dams won’t fill’ ex Climate Commissioner Tim Flannery they’re not talking much about it-
http://www.eldersweather.com.au/dam-level/sa/
Pssst, you wanna buy some cheap Gummint desal water? Just supply the reliable power and you can fire up the shiny new idle plant.

Doug
September 21, 2016 9:49 am

…hardline green policies which McKibben claims were agreed by Democratic delegates in St. Louis.

No need to worry about McKibben’s claims. Go straight to the platform they produced: https://www.demconvention.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Democratic-Party-Platform-7.21.16-no-lines.pdf
A couple of highlights:
“We are committed to getting 50 percent of our electricity from clean energy sources within a decade…”
“Democrats are committed to closing the Halliburton loophole…”
“…reducing greenhouse gas emissions more than 80 percent below 2005 levels by 2050…”
“We believe America must be running entirely on clean energy by mid-century.”
…and of course this gem:

Democrats also respectfully request the Department of Justice to investigate allegations of corporate fraud on the part of fossil fuel companies accused of misleading shareholders and the public on the scientific reality of climate change.

philincalifornia
Reply to  Doug
September 21, 2016 4:53 pm

“No need to worry about McKibben’s claims.”
People do, unfortunately, despite the fact that he thinks (or says) that 350 ppm is wonderful, but 400 ppm is responsible for hurricanes. How can people believe this douche?

pkatt
September 21, 2016 9:52 am

I think its funny, whenever that rag uses a picture of Hilarity it’s about 10 years old. I guess they don’t realize the hit in credibility they take daily eh? Around here we just call her ol corrupt because she is what is wrong with DC. As for her not mentioning the “pave paradise and put up a solar plant” crowd, make no mistake her and the Gore poodle are still in league with each other. There is money to be made and they will both be in on the ground floor of this world wide Enron type scam.

Joel Snider
September 21, 2016 10:00 am

Again… this is the Progressives’ PRIMARY issue – this is the one that is the lynch-pin for all others – even Healthcare – and if they’re NOT talking about it, that’s the time to worry, because they are busy little bees behind the scenes – coordination of city governments, particularly in port cities, executive action on the local and state level – and never forget the marching brooms that are big produced in our schools.
And it all goes on behind the scenes because pretty much every stupid, intrusive new ‘regulation’ is tossed off as ‘it’s for the environment – what harm could it do?’ and therefore gets implemented under the radar of those that would otherwise oppose it.

Michael Jankowski
September 21, 2016 10:02 am

“…any federal policy that worsened global warming should be rejected…”
But not any Clinton Foundation policy. Or personal travel policy. Or convention/assembly travel policy. Keep spewing GHGs yourself and regulate others.

ralfellis
September 21, 2016 10:13 am

In my estimation, CIinton suffers from petit-maI epiIepsy. A condition I have lived alongside for years, and can recognise its symptoms from a mile away.
In petit-maI, the patient does not fall over, they just stand there in a trance, as if switched off. They are completely unresponsive, although may whisper incoherently, and the eyes lose focus and stare into the middle distance. They can also be led by the shoulder to a place of safety, like a sofa; and they will walk with small steps as if in a dream, but may stumble and fall if led over uneven ground.
And while mediication is available for this condition, prescriptions like epiIim can send the patient into a daze. If CIinton wants to stay sharp for debates and cameras, she cannot take this type of mediication. But the wearing of Zeiss blue glasses is known to reduce episodes, if they are triggered by sunlight. And CIinton was indeed wearing Zeiss blue sungIasses, on a day when nobody else was wearing sungIasses.
But if this is a realistic diagnosis it will be difficult to keep secret for long, as patients normally have regular (daily) events. Yet the calm response of the security detail may indicate this is already the case. Nobody seemed surprised that she became a walking, stumbling automaton, and then a deadweight sack of potatos – they just took their positions to assist and to shield the event from the cameras. This rather suggests that this is already a regular event, and they have a routine in place to deal with it.
R

Reply to  ralfellis
September 22, 2016 5:06 am

Mods
this was the 6th time this was posted…
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Griff
Reply to  ralfellis
September 22, 2016 8:11 am
TA
Reply to  ralfellis
September 22, 2016 2:57 pm

“Yet the calm response of the security detail may indicate this is already the case. Nobody seemed surprised that she became a walking, stumbling automaton, and then a deadweight sack of potatos – they just took their positions to assist and to shield the event from the cameras. This rather suggests that this is already a regular event, and they have a routine in place to deal with it.”
Good point. I thought so, too. And Bill Clinton said “frequently”, during an interview last week, when discussing Hillary’s condition.

Amber
September 21, 2016 10:59 am

No Hillary won’t be talking about global warming she hired Al Gore to do that . Besides she can read the Green party has about 3% support .
She would wait till after she gets in to spring a carbon tax and pay back her biggest campaign sugar daddies . She won’t be repeating she intends to fire coal workers and shut down fossil fuels either .
Those declarations have cost enough maybe the election .