Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Ban Ki-moon, outgoing UN Secretary General, has declared that the climate debate is over.
… “The debate over climate phenomenon is over scientifically and environmentally,” said Ban, adding that the influence of climate change deniers or skeptics has waned.
“It is affecting our day-to-day life,” Ban said, at a new conference ahead of a G20 summit in the eastern Chinese city of Hangzhou. …
Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-climatechange-un-idUSKCN11A04N
Meanwhile, back in the real world, President Obama is in my opinion misleading the Chinese government into thinking his “ratification” of the Paris treaty means something. President Obama cannot bind the USA to the commitments of the Paris treaty without ratification by a hostile US senate. Such ratification is very unlikely, because the US senate is currently controlled by climate skeptics.
Climate subsidies are being reduced worldwide, as even the greenest governments give up on hopeless renewables.
Climate consistently scores at the bottom of people’s priorities, compared to issues like the economy and the treat of global terrorism, even when the UN conducts the poll.
The only question in my opinion is whether Ban Ki-moon will be forgotten, or whether he will be remembered as the UN Secretary General who presided over the demise of the climate movement.
..Great post Eric, but some people may not consider Global Terrorism as a “treat”…lol
“compared to issues like the economy and the treat of global terrorism, ”
Sorry, couldn’t help my self…
The Holy See has declared thus.
The nuclear debate us just starting, it is impossible to replace fossil fuel without nuclear.
That funky, spunky, skunky li’l monkey, Bunky Moon is is a real comedian.
How many times have we already heard some legend in their own lunch-box claim that “the debate is over”? Yawn.
…Mind you, when the man-on-the-Moon adds a claim that the influence of ‘deniers’ or sceptics has waned, that sounds like a feeble attempt to convince himself that the complete opposite isn’t true.
The wheels must really be falling off the gullible warming gravy train.
Yup. The debate is over. We skeptics of human caused catastrophic global warming have decidedly won the debate. A debate that the warmists have claimed never happened.
I am glad he agrees with us.
Some also declared the debate over when more than 97% of all ‘scientists’ thought the Earth was at the center of the universe. Thank goodness that debate continued.
Ban Ki-moon must only pay attention to the Hillary Clinton campaign in the US. Otherwise, the CAGW movement is not doing all that well.
I wonder what Angry Birds have to do with any of this?
How many times have we already heard one legend in their own lunchbox or other claim that the climate debate is over? Yawn.
I guess it’s one last pep-talk before he is replaced to keep the faithful on mission. Sort of like Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf claiming the Iraqi army was beating the coalition forces in 2003 even as the sounds of American tanks fighting their way into Bagdad could be heard in the background of the press conference.
Mind you, when Kai The-man-on-the-Moon adds the claim that the influence of deniers of scetics has waned, that sounds like a rather feeble attempt to convince himself that the exact opposite isn’t true; because by any stretch of the imagination it’s the influence of gang-green that is waning, it’s perhaps not the beginning of the end yet, but definately the end of the beginning.
Even the Useless Numpties must be starting to realise that the wheels are falling off the gullible warming gravy train if their boss resorts to saying crap like this out loud.
Nothing is over until we say it is over :))
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lT1o0sDwI
About China’s raticification: https://treaties.un.org/Pages/ViewDetails.aspx?src=TREATY&mtdsg_no=XXVII-7-d&chapter=27&clang=_en#EndDec
” In accordance with the Basic Law of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region of the People’s Republic of China and the Basic Law of the Macao Special Administrative Region of the People’s Republic of China, the Government of the People’s Republic of China decides that the Agreement applies to the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region and the Macao Special Administrative Region of the People’s Republic of China”.
How about the rest of China?
UN Secretary General: The Climate Debate is “Over”
As Yogi used to say, “It ain’t over until it’s over!” AND IT AIN’T OVER! He obviously doesn’t look at websites like this one, hey!
Mr. Secretary, if the debate is over, perhaps you could tell me just how the climate is changing that has you all concerned? While you’re at it, could you please tell me when in the history of mankind the climate was not affecting day to day life?
My what big eyebrows he has.
Ban Ki-moon, schlepping for the enviroprofiteers, once again…..
Ban Ki-moon
(Source: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/b/bankimoon643804.html )
“{Science realism’s success} is affecting our day-to-day
lifeprofits,” Ban said, …” (Reuters quote above)Heh, heh, heh. GOOD!
CO2 UP. WARMING STOPPED.
Bwah, ha, ha, ha, haaaaaaaaaaaaa!
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Note re: B. Hussein signing the Paris agreement recently — An “accord” or an “agreement” or a treaty by any other name still requires the ratification of the U.S. Senate to be enforceable in the U.S.. It will not be. Just as Monica L.’s favorite adulterer signed the Kyoto climate thing (never ratified by the Senate), it is completely useless. A political move. And that is all. What a joke — around 35 true believers (in AGW) will switch their vote from the Green party to Hillary the Yet-to-Be-Convicted. And it may provide windmill and solar stooge politicians with just enough cover to try another “fund sustainable stuff!!!!” push in the next 2 months in Congress…. which will fail in committee ….. heh.
In sum: that trip to China was a waste of the U.S. taxpayers’ money from ANY perspective.
“The only question in my opinion is whether Ban Ki-moon will be forgotten, or whether he will be remembered as the UN Secretary General who presided over the demise of the climate movement.”
He might be remembered as Banky Moon, as he was labeled for his intimacy with the IMF.
Heh, the debate was over when Lindzen and Chrichton and Stott shut down Schmidt et al in 2007.
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Hillary has installed a Climate Room in the White House:
Hillary: “I don’t get it, nothing seems to be changing on any of these screens!”
Technician: “Um, madam president, climate change doesn’t happen instantly.”
Hillary: “What are you talking about!? Al Gore and Bill McKibben both told me that that can see it happening right NOW!”
Technician: “Er, madam president, the standard baseline for measuring climate is 30 years. Changes don’t happen instantly. Weather changes on the short term, not climate.”
Hillary: ” Don’t give me that crap! The best scientific minds, Mike Mann and James Hansen, and Al Gore all told me I could see it happening! My friend, Senator Debbie Stabenow, says she can feel it when she’s flying! Your systems just aren’t working!”
Technician: “Madam president, as you ordered, we have all the climate change metrics on display, GISS, HadCRUT, BEST, NOAA, NSIDC, we have all the IPCC models on display, including RCP 8.5, plus Al Gore’s TRIANA satellite, looking straight at Earth and giving a live feed.These all monitor the climate of Earth.”
Hillary: “Well if your fancy named systems are so good, why can’t I see the climate changing NOW!? Gore told me I could watch it happening from space! All this money, and for what? I can’t see anything happening!”
Technician: “Madam president, as I tried to explain earlier, climate change is slow, on periods of 30 years, and….”
Hillary: “DON’T YOU LECTURE ME ABOUT WHAT I ALREADY KNOW!!!! Al Gore says I will be able to see it! Bill McKibben says I will be able to see it. Even that little weasel Joe Romm says I’ll be able to see it! Do you think you are smarter than these people!?”
Technician: [long pause] “um, …”
Hillary: “I’ve watched real time feeds all over the planet! I’ve watched people being taken out in hellholes you can’t even imagine! And you can’t do this simple thing?”
Technician: [longer pause] “well, as I …”
Hillary: “NEVER MIND! [dials cell phone] Podesta? I need my own server again! These idiots setup all these screens to show climate change and nothing is happening! What!? No I don’t care about timelines! Make it happen!!!!”
Hillary: [mumbles to herself] “I’m surrounded by idiots…”
“The debate is over”.
“The influence of Skeptics is waning”.
“It (meaning manmade climate change) is affecting our daily lives”.
Just a few of the many lies the Climate Liars have to keep telling themselves in their desperate and ultimately failing effort in keeping their belief system from crumbling.
That’s weird.
Even Naomi Oreskes, the Empress of Consensus (h/t G. Chambers), admits there’s all sorts of debate going on in the clisci literature.
Naomi Oreskes!
“It is affecting our day-to-day life,”
“our” here refers to “us at the UN” where the climate hype is a big part of day to day life.
When a politician, on a subject implicating science says, ‘the debate is over,’ you may be sure of two things; the debate is raging and he’s losing it.”
–George Will
I don’t remember the climate debate. It didn’t happen in the UK. Successive Governments and the BBC ensured that there was no debate.
So, which one of the 102 climate models won?