Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Ban Ki-moon, outgoing UN Secretary General, has declared that the climate debate is over.
… “The debate over climate phenomenon is over scientifically and environmentally,” said Ban, adding that the influence of climate change deniers or skeptics has waned.
“It is affecting our day-to-day life,” Ban said, at a new conference ahead of a G20 summit in the eastern Chinese city of Hangzhou. …
Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-climatechange-un-idUSKCN11A04N
Meanwhile, back in the real world, President Obama is in my opinion misleading the Chinese government into thinking his “ratification” of the Paris treaty means something. President Obama cannot bind the USA to the commitments of the Paris treaty without ratification by a hostile US senate. Such ratification is very unlikely, because the US senate is currently controlled by climate skeptics.
Climate subsidies are being reduced worldwide, as even the greenest governments give up on hopeless renewables.
Climate consistently scores at the bottom of people’s priorities, compared to issues like the economy and the treat of global terrorism, even when the UN conducts the poll.
The only question in my opinion is whether Ban Ki-moon will be forgotten, or whether he will be remembered as the UN Secretary General who presided over the demise of the climate movement.
Yes, Yes, Yes!!! No more need for the IPCC, no more money for climate research, no more flying to conferences on climate change. We are freed from funding all those things! Let’s make a list of where the money could be really useful, like in poor countries getting them food, clothes, shelter and something besides those hokey solar cookstoves and tiny wind turbines with no backup. Third world countries celebrate! You may actually be saved.
And I’ll wager that no one in the media bothered to ask him to explain specifically how global warming is affecting anybody’s life. I see plenty of refugees, but nary a single climate refugee. An army of invisible
refugees, apparently.
Climate Debate … Over?
If that is the case then why is Mikey Mann spamming FB about a “patition” demanding AGU drop Exxon Support?
http://act.climatetruth.org/sign/agu/?source=FB_ad2
And WTF is a “Climate Truth Org.”? if the “Debate” is Over?
Give a hand to Mikey Mann for a Sunday Funny! 😀
This is the guy who went to the Arctic to watch glaciers calving and then announced (approximately) “We have to stop this happening!”…
“It is affecting our day-to-day life,”
Exactly what one can say about the very changeable English weather. Apart from a brief visit from the Spanish plume, it’s been a rather disaapointing and cool summer.
Can I get some sort of climate compensation for that?
If we were to go into a cooling phase next winter, and enter a downward cooling slope that lasts thirty years there will still be activests claiming that some factor is masking GW and that when that something stops being a factor there will be a catastrophic rise in temperature.
Fortunately if we do have the predicted cooling during the next decade even the dumbest politician should learn that they can no longer ride this pony, unfortunately, they’ll just look for some other hobby horse they can mount in order to build a little personal empire.
This may sound like a broken record, but it can’t be played too many times: Climate-change is a political device. Note:
According to Investors Business Daily, Christiana Figueres, Executive Secretary of the U.N.’s Framework Convention on Climate Change (through July 2016), has admitted that the goal of environmental activists is not to save the world from ecological calamity but to destroy capitalism. She’s quoted as having said, ‘..This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, changing the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution…’
Figueres is currently a serious candidate for election to the position of Secretary General of the U.N.
Jawohl, Mein Führer.
Just another dictator at heart.
It’s quite fitting that they’ve employed a fictional character, “Red” the Angry Bird to be the ambassador for their fictional manmade Climate Catastrophe.
“Meanwhile, back in the real world, President Obama is in my opinion misleading the Chinese government into thinking his “ratification” of the Paris treaty means something.”
The Chinese are not fooled by Obama. They know the U.S. Constitution as well as he does. Yes, that’s right, Obama knows the U.S. Constitution, he just chooses to ignore the parts of it that restrict his authority.
The Climate Agreement is just going through the motions for the Chinese. They are not required to do anything under this agreement until 2030. Odds are, they won’t do anything after 2030, either. They will be happy to sign this meaningless agreement. It makes them look good in the eyes of the Globalists, and they don’t have to sacrifice anything for it. Win, win.
Well there you have it. Ban Ki-moon has just ordered all you alarmists to quit debating the subjects of climate change and AGW . You need to follow your leaders orders and march to the tune of that organization which has been the leader in the AGW/Climate change scam. You have your orders. However we skeptics will continue to debate since we think that the UN is full of it and we do not look to them as leaders of anything but pure BS and despotism.
The scary global warming debate hasn’t even really begun because the promoters of the earth has a fever run and hide like cowards. Really the only thing settled is they want the checks to keep flowing on one of the biggest scams in history .
Of course climate changes with or without humans but a trace gas representing a fraction of ! % of the atmosphere has virtually no effect .and if anything it is positive . That is not in debate . Look where all the scam promoters live and their lifestyle . Not a global warming Gandhi among these self dealing weasels .
Moon Bank is outgoing ? Now that is very good news .
Science is about facts , hypothesis and proven theory . Political science is about the distribution of power and resources . The scary global warming industry is political science as UN officials intended in order to distribute power and resources as they saw fit .
The air is running out of the scam so it is even less likely promoters of the earth has a fever will actually debate anything . Most have made their money already .
Just remember folks that the ‘hottest year evah’ meme is predicated on an 18+ year pause followed by el Nino driven by NATURAL variability. Yep, the greatest threat humankind has ever faced is now completely reliant on perfectly normal natural variability to prop it up. Shite doesn’t get more real than this.
The only question in my opinion is whether Ban Ki-moon will be forgotten, or whether he will be remembered as the UN Secretary General who presided over the demise of the climate movement.
Unless the left wing liberal democrats win the debate, and you find yourself in jail for writing so many BS articles. I’m not so sure they are going to lose the debate anytime soon.
Mr. Obama is deadly serious about circumventing our Constitution and laws to get his way. He is certainly misleading a lot of people but the Chinese President is not one of them.
So now the UN declares the climate debate over.
Climate skeptics will now be considered committing crimes against humanity.
UN is soon to take over the internet root domain management via an ITU-ICAAN alliance.
Climate skeptic web sites and their domain hosts will soon be receiving “cease and dissist” orders from UN bureaucrats.
Ignore the order and face global internet domain name death.
1984 is here.
I don’t think we ever actually had a debate. Or did I miss it? All I saw was a preordained conclusion and a lot of shouting and intimidation and calling everyone who disagreed a denier.
Ban Ki Moon wants the UN to be a world government, hence CO2 must be dangerous. His is a purely political view. The man wouldn’t know a scientific conclusion if he tripped over one. Why are we listening to this man pontificate on scientific matters he knows nothing about.
Here’s another debate that is “over”.
Real science can never be settled. The debate can never be finalised on real science. Only pseudoscience or fraudulent science can be called settled-the liars tactic of avoiding scrutiny.
We all know the UN should be more scientifically savvy, so it is highly suggestive that the UN itself is a fraud. Wait a minute, the UN is trying to gain control over the internet. Rather massive conflict of interest-the UN wants to control information – information that has been pre-ordained since it is supposedly settled.
The conclusion should be very clear by now- the UN is a FRAUD and was from the beginning-they always wanted control over us by promoting their own propaganda. The climate scam, which has no actual evidence whatsoever is a great conduit for deception. It preys on FEAR and GUILT-2 basic human emotions that are exploited frequently. LUST, SLOTH and GREED (especially those raking in money taxing air) are the other base emotions that can be exploited. Just look at the 72 virgins promise made to Jihadis.
If control over the internet occurs on October 1, freedom of speech and thus human freedom itself is gone.
We do indeed live in “interesting” times.
If CAGW were genuine, these people would welcome any debate or questioning as a method of getting their message across. They would welcome each and every contrary opinion as a means of counterpointing their message with scientific data.
However if it were not genuine, the CAGW proponents would attempt to shutdown such debate by stonewalling and diversionary logic, as seems to be the case here.
Might be time to take a look at the computer models for Hermine Mr Ban-ki Moon before you make such wild claims that question your judgement. These models which are only a few days have been horrible versus the actual track.
The science is not settled but your judgment is settled and it’s not pretty.i
Let us hope. Funny how media fails to report the non-binding status of the Paris accord under US law. No it’s all the inevitability of history hype. Where have we heard this before.
When the giants in power (politicians) something yourself “screwed in the head,” then there is no normal who can confront them. They will realize its plan, despite all the sacrifices that will be found in that decision. And these solutions have never been neither logical nor humane, just to “tycoon” policies and wishes.
‘…The climate debate is over….’
Oh, right – so all those climate scientists can pack their belongings into an Iron Mountain box, and send their cv’s to Macdonald’s to see if they need any burger flippers….
For something that’s over, he sure likes to talk about it a lot.
And when a complete stranger tells you “trust me”, that’s often the last thing you should do.