Friday Funny: "cottoning up" to skeptics with high pressure commentary

pressure-cooker-blows

On Monday, I wrote a very personal piece that describes my personal trials and tribulations over the last 18 months. It was very well received and I had hundreds of comments of support. I sincerely thank everyone who left a comment of support and understanding. Out of 428 comments, almost every comment was this way, almost, save one. Even the normally irascible “Eli Rabbet” provided a thoughtful comment of support.

That one comment (which was never published due to multiple policy violations) is presented below for your amusement, along with a follow up comment.

Of course, the person writing it was a coward, hiding behind a fake name, a fake email, and an IP address on a proxy server. But the m.o. and the content is a dead giveaway, because who else writes high pressure craziness like this hoping to convince somebody you are right by hurling insults? There’s only one person I know of.

I recall Einsteins definition of insanity:

einstein-insanity

So here is the comment I got on the personal thread Monday:


2016/07/25 at 9:52 pm

YourWifeCouldntStandTheStupid

Expieallidocious@hotmail.com

193.90.12.89

Quick, Magic Gais Watts, what’s the name of the law of thermodynamics for solving temperature, and how long was it before your dumb ass discovered ”Green House Gas Effect” is nothing but the compression warming removed from standard gas equations?

LoL Watt a f***g HicK.

I guess if you can steer an entire scientific movement into the trash with the likes of that thermo-billy Eschenbach, you can wreck a woman’s life.

GO FIGURE.

You’re a fraud.

You’re a fake atmospheric chemist.

You’re not even skeptical about a story so simple it involves leaving compression out of the mathematics of atmospheric temperature then claiming MAGIC makes the sky hot.

You’re a f***n’ bum. You never thought or cared about anything

but your self. – and the way you’ve acted, you deserve all the dismissal by those who know you WELL, you get.

You’re a f****g HaCK.

You’re the back door man

for a pseudo science movement so stupid it has you claiming that immersion of a fire warmed rock into frigid fluids,

makes it warmer than when there WAS no bath of frigid fluids,

and the full light of that fire assured maximum surface energy density for the distance.

Your fans and friends are pretty much the K-Mart of Signts and you’re as disgusting as you feel. When you know you’ve been being bad, you can always get ”your public” to run it’s tongue up and down the crack of your sweaty, stupid a*&, and get yourself some kook-kiks.

Typically you’re another Repugnican, and somewhere is a woman who spent years watching you over-eat and act like a vindictive little dilettante.

You’ve been at the HELM – the PUBLIC HELM of the BIGGEST MOWING DOWN of SCIENTIFIC INTEGRITY in COMMUNICATIONS in the RECENT HISTORY.

Too STUPID to know MAGIC GAS EFFECT is nothing more than REMOVAL of COMPRESSION from ATMOSPHERIC MECHANICS


Oh, but wait, there’s more!


2016/07/28 at 11:24 am

GasCompressionMathematics

princeofpomegranites@gmail.com

73.12.130.111

If WATTS HADN’T TRIED TO TELL THE WORLD THERE IS A GREEN HOUSE GAS EFFECT HE WOULDN’T HAVE TO HAVE

OTHER FAILED PHYSICISTS

APOLOGIZING FOR HIS/THEIR IGNORANT, ANTI-SCIENTIFIC DRIVEL

AND THEIR BOOKS WOULD SELL.

A BUNCH of F*KG HICKS.

ANTI SCIENTIFIC f*kng HICKS who CAN’T PROPERLY READ & WRITE

the LAW of THERMODYNAMICS

that SOLVES FOR TEMPERATURE of GAS.

*THAT SOLVES TEMPERATURE of GAS*

THAT solves TEMPERATURE of the SIMPLEST PHASE of f*kng MATTER known to MAN.

WATTS IS THE ANTI SCIENCE HICK WHO SET THAT THERMO-BILLY ESCHENBACH ONTO THE WORLD’S SCIENTIFIC SCENE TO LIBEL, INSULT and LIE to REAL SCIENTISTS who TOLD YOU ALL

who TOLD YOU ALL –

THERE IS NO SUCH THING as a GREEN HOUSE GAS EFFECT WARMING.

GREEN HOUSE GASES are the COOLING FLUIDS of the PLANETARY SYSTEM.

YOU can not WARM a ROCK with a FIRE in VACUUM

then WARM it through IMMERSION in a SHALLOW FIELD of FRIGID FLUIDS you HICK – that’s YOU

WATTS.

That’s YOU STEELE.

YOU CAN NOT RAISE SURFACE ENERGY DENSITY you IGNORANT HICKS,

THROUGH IMMERSION of a LIGHT WARMED OBJECT

into a LIGHT BLOCKING FRIGID BATH of TURBULENT FLUIDS

and YOUR LEGACY

is BRANDED WITH THE FACT YOU CLAIMED YOU THINK THAT CAN HAPPEN.

GREEN HOUSE GAS

GARBAGE

is NOTHING BUT

THE STRIPPING OF COMPRESSION MATHEMATICS

from STANDARD GAS EQUATIONS

and FILLING IN that 30 + DEGREES with WATTS/STEELE/MANN/HANSEN/TRENBERTH CLASS

THERMODYNAMIC

G A R B A G E.


Gosh, I didn’t realize I’m in the same league with Mann, Hansen, and Trenberth. With my elevated status, it seems critical mass has been reached again.

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ARW

what a dick

flyover bob

Your comment would suggest the coward is even part of a man. A suggestion unsupported in any way.

Goldrider

Sounds like someone’s “medical marijuana” prescription got a little over-filled . . . Just remember ONE thing, Alan–when you’re taking flak, it means you’re over the target! Keep the faith!

Goldrider

I mean Anthony! Heck, I’m over my beer-quota, damn that Global Warming!

Tom Judd

I really wish you hadn’t written that. I’ll have you know that’s the best part of the male body and now I just can’t handle it.
Um, never mind.

David Smith

In my marriage I leave my wife to handle everything.
Whoops, another one to never mind.

Based on the responses of you critics, you are a genius of the highest order, a gentleman and a scholar!
BTW, after 18.5 years of marriage, my 1st wife left me for her former boss, and I was devastated. It turns out that it was all in God’s plan to bring me together with my perfect best friend and companion, my current and last wife. The hell of before is nothing like the heaven of now.
Anthony, LIVE through it, and thrive on the new experiences life (and God) will bring.

scuzzaman

Indeed, Newt Love. Indeed.
It is even possible to be grateful to one’s former wife for doing me such a massive favour and leaving.
It can be hard to believe that while the wounds are still fresh and bleeding, but it’s true. I swear it.

mike

yr: “what a dick”
I’m thinkin’ more along the lines of your basic, chronically over-praised, trophy-laden, mouthy dumb-kid, emotionally crippled for life by his hive-mummy’s hovering, overly-protective, smothering, control-freak embrace; a creepy-brat who never has and never will get a date; a “snookum-wookums-for-life”, whose bathroom mirror is a horror-story, bio-hazard mess of encrusted, multi-layer, zit-crud splatter; and a little-snot weirdo, whose sole pleasure, in his otherwise “yes-mummy”, “teacher’s-pet”, “tattle-tale”, “tag-along-pest”, “mummy-the-big-boys-are-bein’-mean-to-me!, spastic-dork, pathetic existence, takes the form of a serial addiction to tawdry, precociously sicko, privately-handled “moments”, alone, of a sort that inevitably find him lost in his own “world”, and holding, in one or the other of his unsanitary hands, some one or another of those well-thumbed “National Geographic” back-issues, dating from the thirties, forties, and fifties, that a distant relative left “Junior Boy” in his will, with the assurance that “they’ll be worth something someday”, even as mummy, in some other room, takes a naive pride in her “little genius” and his urgent attraction to such “edifying” reading material–mummy’s abused innocence, alas, preventing her from realizing the stealth-porn seedy-reality of vintage issues of that publication, and the depravity of her precious bubber-wubber’s adolescent “nasty-habit”.

LamontT

No that would imply being male. Not that I want to imply that the person posting those is female either. And yes they are pretty sad aren’t they. funny as hell but sad that anyone would find emotional satisfaction this way.

I think he needs physiological help/treatment. He is clearly off his rocker.

Mark - Helsinki

WOW Anthony wow lol
Mosher is that you :p
I jest of course
Whomever that is has some real damage doing on internally so one assumed it is an environmentalist as only they have so much hate for their fellow man
Thanks for sharing Anthony, sometimes I need a reminder that I am not a bad person or a lunatic, this picked me right up

Harry Passfield

Far, far, far, far^10 too long to be Most.

Harry Passfield

Shred!!! Most!

Harry Passfield

I really hate u spellcheck!!! Mosh!

ab

Apparently the title wasn’t enough of a clue Anthony.

Mark - Helsinki

I did say it was in jest Anthony “I jest of course” :p

Mark - Helsinki

“Apparently the title wasn’t enough of a clue Anthony.” btkiss fail lol

No,it is not Mosher.He would never write like that ever in the places I have read them.

Tom Judd

Maybe that’s a little bit insulting to Mosher? Just a thought. But, it’s always remained in my mind how thoughtful Mosher was to Willis Eschenbach when Willis presented a post, quite some time ago, on the loss of someone dear to him.

Philip Schaeffer

A little bit?

Mark - Helsinki

Also who types in caps these days hahahaha
Talk about emotional issues! ROFL

Hugs

I can tell you who types in all caps.
Person who is really ineducated what comes to electronic communication – or
Person who is mentally unstable enough to engage her(m)self in serious hate speech.
I believe in the latter. No lol included.
The opinion presented (Anthony is a pro AGW Hansenite) is simply incredible. it requires a really serious misunderstanding where we go. It also represents some serious conspiracy ideation. And it gives face for true d3nialism.
(I also use the time here to thank Anthony for sharing his personal life event and wish the very best post-divorce life. My friendly pat to the dog as well.)

The days of typing upper-case came from teletype machines – they didn’t have lower case. We had those in the Air Force back in the 60s.

Mark - Helsinki

We need these human “barometers”, to remind us we are in fact still sane

Mark - Helsinki

William Connolly? Maybe him lol

I would add Schlesinger to the list, who had to break Bode in order to support the possibility of massive positive feedback. This 3+ decode old error has been canonized by the IPCC and will be hard to correct, but once it is, the entire house of cards called CAGW will collapse.

Matt B

Connolly is actually being more reasonable these days, there are still flashes of the Old Stoat but he has taken on some of the tribe groupthink, for example with the Exxon attorney general lawsuits.

Mark - Helsinki

I wash joking guys it’s funny Friday!!! chill out guys
Fantastic to see you active Anthony

Too intelligent for our Will
[??? .mod]

Pop Piasa

Perhaps the greatest threat to each person today is his own ego.
Let them destroy themselves, but steer clear of their collateral damage.
Always easier said, than done…

Mike McMillan

Thank you for sharing.

Those comments took himher probably all day to type.

RCS

The world is full of malignant idiots. Unfortunately half of them are on the Internet!

MarkW

Only half?

Bryan A

The other half obviously can’t find the internet

Mark - Helsinki

Just what I was thinking Mork not a typo :p

Robert from oz

Congrats Anthony , you are now steering the scientific world , if this ain’t praise I don’t know what is .

Gregory

I’m so old I remember when you had to be intelligent to connect to the internet.

Pamela Gray

Me too. Bulletin Board Service. Needed a bit of noggin.
http://www.fehq.org/whatis.htm

Funny – my email address is a hold over from the old Compuserve bulletin board system along with some “Machanical” networks and note sharing through a main frame.
Interestingly, are blogs not the evolution of the old bulletin boards?
Oops. My age is showing. 😉

Disqus and Akismet are blocking/censoring my comments as spam. Blocked on Steve’s/Tony’s site as well and don’t know why. WordPress?
Skeptical badges of honor?

James in Perth

“Back Door Man”? That’s my favorite Willie Dixon tune! What an awesome compliment!!

PaulH

Yeah, excellent tune. I’d take that as a compliment too! ;->

J

What about Howlin’ Wolf’s version?
Another real classic.

Nigel S

Another vote for Howlin Wolf! Smokestack Lightning too perhaps for the earlier lightning strike post.
Welcome back Anthony. A couple of bits of advice, don’t marry a knife throwing actress on the rebound and don’t buy a wooden sailing boat on the rebound from that. Your work here is too valuable for distractions.

James in Perth

Here’s a better version: https://youtu.be/O6DAdDyWZaQ

sz939

More evidence that the AGW Fan Base requires a low IQ, Mental Illness, and a total contempt for the Educational System.

Lord people.
In German he’d be ‘D. Baumwolle’, and in Spanish he’s known as ‘D. Algodón’.
Obviously I’ve got no idea if Anthony is correct, but the diatribe is certainly crazy enough.

MarkW

As near as I can tell he/she/it is claiming that CO2 has no effect and that the only thing that controls temperature is atmospheric pressure.

Yup. He used to haunt Dr. Roy Spencer’s blog before Dr. Spencer finally decided he’d had enough.

Pop Piasa

Certainly doesn’t care to win any friends or have a positive influence on the rest of us. Atmospheric pressure must play into this or Venus wouldn’t be as not at the surface.

Pop Piasa

Oops, “as hot at the surface”

MarkW

I don’t know about you, but when it comes to Venus, I’m glad that I’m not at the surface.

David A

The majority of the atmospheric pressure only guys are not this ignorant, nor this arrogant. In this case I am not certain which is the greatest, but clearly “reason has forsaken him, yet he can still shout.”

StephanF

For Venus to be so hot at its surface, its atmosphere has to be optically thick at high altitude to absorb the sun light, then the pressure effect does take in effect. Did I get this right? I am not an atmospheric scientist. But I know the term ‘radiative layer’ from plasma physics. So if Venus’ atmosphere is indeed optically thick at high altitude, then this is sort of a greenhouse effect, again, did I get this right? So the pressure alone doesn’t do anything without a heated layer higher up and gasses to absorb sunlight effectively. The incoming radiation from the sun has to be in thermal equilibrium with the blackbody of the optically thick layer radiating back into space. So the temperature of the absorbing layer will rise until this equilibrium condition is met. And the temperature below that layer follows the barometric height formula. That is how I understand this.
And yes (to this ‘vulgarian’ poster) you can heat up a rock in a vacuum by radiation, how on earth, ahem, moon, can the face of the moon that is exposed to the sun get so hot? This is called ‘radiation transport’, look it up sometime (to this vulgarian poster).

Saying you are in the same league with Mann, Hansen and Trenberth is an insult. These guys are in league of their own where unwarranted assumptions, political correctness, massively manipulated data and fears of an imaginary catastrophe rules, rather than real data, facts and logic.

Bryan A

The league of unordinary gentlemen

Doug in Calgary

Mann and Hansen have set back climate science by about 30 years while Anthony has kept it in the realm of reality and sanity. Thank you Anthony.

Killer Marmot

A toxic blend of ignorance, arrogance, and insanity.

Curious George

Probably a robot. That’s actually bad news, expect a lot of same.

MCourtney

That was my thought.
No human would use that many CAPS unless thy accidentally left it all on.

Marcus

…OMG..What a (snip) scumbag !! ONLY socialist trolls would kick somebody, anybody( liberal, Democrat,Republican or Conservative !) when they are down….The hateful and venomous attacks from most of liberal Media News is astounding…The fact that we, the people ,allow it, is unforgivable ! As always Anthony…Stay strong..we need you !

Duncan

“You’ve been at the HELM – the PUBLIC HELM of the BIGGEST MOWING DOWN of SCIENTIFIC INTEGRITY in COMMUNICATIONS in the RECENT HISTORY.”
Anthony, I think he is trying to compliment you (in his own way). Secondly, I don’t know how you ‘mow’ down ‘integrity’, unless integrity did not exist in the first place.

Bryan A

Got to agree with you on this one…Science seems to have had it’s integrity self-diminished

SMC

Sounds like a candidate for induction to the Westboro Baptist Church. I wonder if he’s related to any of them.

gnomish

heh- i don’t think you understand the wbc.
they are a pack of lawyers with a tax exempt church.
they have a good thing going and they have a lot of fun with it.
yes, they are trolls. they are pretty darn good at it, too.

I have to say one thing: Anthony and Willis, if you know who this is I would seriously consider talking to the authorities about this person. He (or she, which I doubt) is on a breaking point and is a danger to himself and others. (And I speak from experience). As this illness progresses it will get worse, this has all the earmarks and I am VERY serious, this is not a humorous matter at all, thanks ( and mod you can block this after passing it on to Anthony and Willis. I am very serious about this as this has happened to our family))

Leonard Lane

I agree with asybot. There is nothing humorous or trivial in these comments. He has been through a similar situation in his family.

Ross King

The emptiest barrels make the most sound.

@ Ross, quote of the day! + many!

Alan Kendall

You only got one like this, or is this the outstanding example? I would get it framed, hang it somewhere appropriate to remind you of man’s frailties and to consider, when you’re down, that you could’ve been given his passion but without the necessary understanding. Sanity is so fragile.

texasjimbrock

Thanks for posting this garbage. Lets us know the kind of people that call us names.

Dr. Dave

I got a good chuckle out of this and hope you did too. It’s always fun seeing some ignoramus getting their panties in a bunch.

ossqss

Packet trace available? Would be nice to meet the coward in person….

TonyL

Let me take a guess here.
Some form of paranoid schizophrenia?
It may be easier to laugh at this kind of stuff now, but it must be pretty awful to see when it first comes in over the transom.
My best wishes to Anthony, and I hope your world continues to brighten up.

This site and Axthony are amazing. Reading the diatribe, I can only assume the writer is calling out for help. Perhaps I am being overly considerate, but while I have a few rants hidden away in my drafts folders, I was taught a long time ago to put them aside for a day or two before sending. Most never leave the drafts folder although one or two have when my meds were off. Maybe that is what happened here – benefit of the doubt. One bad post can taint a life. But I do believe we have seen this person posting his ideas before without the vitriol.
This person must be very hurt and angry … and inconsiderate given the difficult time A has gone through.
Maybe publishing this will help this individual deal with his isolation and think about pausing before hitting send – not that we all haven’t done it.
Not being an apologist, just sad that this kind of thing has to happen as it hurts everyone and the discussion.
Good wishes and good health to all.

Duncan

To music:
I was gonna remember thermodynamics, until I got High,
I was gonna throw some insults, then I got High.
Can’t even type coherently and I know why,
Because I got High,
Because I got High,
Because I got High

Bryan A

definitely the same person in both e-mails.
Syntax is similar
Word hybridization is similar
Asterisking style of profanity is similar (Once heard that “the person that needs to use profanity most is the person with the least quality education”)
Insult verbiage is identical (probably a lexicographer with a 3 page tome)
Both contained apparent Half Formed Sentences indicating a highly scattered thought process is inherent and coherent thoughts almost impossible.
Tis likely that he was just wound so tight that the Rubber Band between his ears simply snapped and he is trying to make sense of the complex reverberation resonating inside his vacuous cranium. He is fortunate though that the snapping of the latex in that confined space didn’t totally destroy his brain cell.

MarkW

Best cussing I ever heard was from “The Brother’s O’Toole”. John Astin spent 3 or 4 minutes ripping the good people of Molybdenum up one side and down the other. Without a single word needing to be bleeped.
Gotta find out if it is on Netflix, I need to watch it again.

SMC

Is this the scene?
Michael O’Toole: I have, in my time, visited three political conventions, four sessions of congress, and two homes for the criminally insane. I have known army generals, steam doctors, vegetarians, prohibitionists, and a female suffragette. But never, even in an Orangeman’s Day parade, have I seen such pure and stainless brainlessness as I now behold in you. The Almighty, in His infinite wisdom and mercy, has given the worm enough sense to turn with, and the barnacle can grasp whatever happens to be standing by. But you are equipped with a mental capacity smaller than you were born with. Here we are, benighted in the middle of a nowhere named Molly-Be-Damn – a dreary little rookery, Timothy, a squalid sty, a festering pustule on the face of the western slope. Bless the town and bless the people! Look at them – the rabble of this cantankerous community! Knaves and fools, louts and lardheads, the least of all God’s creatures, without enough push to pick the fleas off each other, abiding in putrefaction and inertia, curled up comfy in it like hogs in a mud hole! And while I, of all people, fret and sweat for a way to pull these Simple Simons out of the bog, you stand around making flatulent noises for the titillation of the vulgar mob. And while he’s bubbling himself, what are you doing, you pusillanimous pack of popcorn pickers? You clattered clutch of clucks? The town dilapidating around you, coasting downhill in a handcart to Hell while you stand about gaping for flies and going patty-cake with your hands!
Mayor: There now! Now just one minute you!
Michael O’Toole: All right, all right, all right! Fine! Keep it, and treasure it the way it is! For when all this trash has collapsed into one pile, and the howling wilderness has claimed its own again, I want you hicks to be happy, belching and spitting, laughing and singing, swinging from tree to tree, with your friend Soapy Sam here, the Uriah Heep of the hookworm belt, standing around below waiting to steal anything that falls to the ground. If a nut should drop and fall – leave it lying there. It’s probably my little brother Timothy.

Mark - Helsinki

Being a Dublin North guy, almost every sentence contains expletives 😀

Donna K. Becker

No; this seems to be evidence of psychosis, as was mentioned in the comment above concerning paranoid schizophrenia. I’d say that at least a welfare check on this individual would be prudent.

SMC

Only if the ‘welfare check’ included an attitude adjustment. Mr. Cotton needs to get a clue, with an ugly stick, about proper conversational deportment… Then his meds need to be adjusted.

Mike SIngleton

It is clear that he/she needs an adjustment in their medication type and dosage. Hope their doctor is on top of this.

Duster

It’s interesting. Blank out the tell-tale elements and you can alter the rants into CAGW rants with very small changes in content. One could conclude that what might seem to be holders of extremely opposed views have a great deal in common psychologically – or maybe “diagnostically.”

hunter

This guy (I am pretty sure of who it is, but won’t give him even a bit of promotion) is rather pathetic. This is a new point in his downward spiral. Fortunately if it who I think it is, he is far, far away. I hope he receives the mental health treatments he desperately needs.
Anthony,
Keep up your journey. Thanks for the humorous interlude.

RWturner

If brain eating amoebas could talk, it would sound a little something like…

Bryan A

[snip – a bit over the top -mod]

Bryan A

Apologies…I’ll try to tome it down a little

Mark - Helsinki

tome it down a little, oxymoron alert :p

John Harmsworth

Way longer-but more polite?

Mark - Helsinki

I like that “tome it down a little” 😀

Sunderlandsteve

Wow, this guy’s got some seriously unresolved childhood issues!

and way too much time on his hands

u.k(us)

I come to this site to be educated/enlightened, if at any time I need a “safe space” away from the scary grown up world of ideas presented here, all I need to do is click my mouse.
I mean, who blames the director of a horror movie for their nightmares ?
Grow up.

Michael C. Roberts

About the best that I was able to glean from that chaff, was the acknowledgement that Anthony and Willis (as well as other contributors) have, through their own efforts through this website – shattered the illusions of the integrity of the CAGW cabal! (Yes, that was a Rush/Neil Peart quotation I used right there…)
As for the rest of the content of those two posts? Straight jacket, anyone???? Ranting lunatic, much?
regards,
MCR

Raven

It’s odd isn’t it.
A decent vocabulary but can’t string a coherent sentence together.

Oh I know EXACTLY who this is. None of the guesses upthread are correct, not even close.
He’s a nasty piece of work who manages to slide cleverly disguised comments into threads with links to his many baloney claims. The mods get the vast majority of them, but every once in a while he sneaks one through. I take a certain amount of pleasure in notifying the mods by posting the guy’s initials with the word “Alert” after them. Post usually gone shortly after that.
I’ve debated this guy on other blogs and he’s worse than the alarmists when it comes to discussing science and GHE. Sad as his rant is, his frustration and anger clearly show through. He truly believes his own drivel, and simply cannot fathom why no one from either side of the debate thinks he is anything but a complete cook.

MarkW

Kooks?
Bobby Flay never wrote anything like that.

Vlad the Impaler

“… cook. ” = kook?

yeah, kook.
still on heavy duty pain meds from surgery, sorry. I kept looking at it knowing that it was wrong and couldn’t figure out why. Back to bed for me….

jorgekafkazar

Those who know the history of the word know it was originally spelled “cook.” Pronounced “kook.” Still works.

Richard M

Probably confused by the other kook … Cook .

John Harmsworth

My mum sure was a helluva kook!

Taphonomic

While it isn’t John Cook; some of the stuff Cook has written gives a interesting light to your phrase “a complete cook”

Felflames

Cooking the books ?
An accountant doing that would be in serious trouble.

Hugs

Thanks for a laugh. Of course, this cook is no Cook or Cokton.

Eugene WR Gallun

davidmhoffer —
A complete cook? One guesses “complete cook” means the same as “totally fried”. I did see this phrase used somewhere long long ago — used about an electronics device that was burned out — beyond repair. It was a “complete cook”. You are referencing our man’s brain — his brain is a complete cook.
Eugene WR Gallun

Terry Gednalske

How could you possibly debate this guy? You can’t reason with crazy!

Christopher Paino

I’m a bit confused after reading this thread. Is there a greenhouse effect or not? Maybe I’m confusing what I read here about CO2 not warming anything and the greenhouse effect. Can somebody straighten me out?
Thank ya!

There is most definitely a GHE. The ranter is a nutty sky dragon. But because of uncertainties in feedbacks (especially water vapor and clouds), the GHE magnitude is uncertain. All the recent observational energy budget studies say the effective sensitivity is about 1.5-1.8, about half of what the IPCC and the CMIP5 climate models say. In which case there is nothing to be alarmed about.

Christopher Paino

Thanks ristvan, that helps.
[Homer voice] Mmmmmmm… nutty sky dragon….

Steve (Paris)

“K-Mart of Signts” – don’t know why but that’s great! Is it an insult? Who cares.

pkatt

Honestly the posters reveal a rather juvenile mind set. When I used to moderate a website the most venomous posters usually fell between the ages of 10 to 17. Thats the age range when they still believe that shock value trumps actual conversation and information exchange. Usually it comes as a cry for attention… look at me look at me. Now you can choose to reward this behavior and reply or you can ignore it. The latter works better. If you do choose to reply keep in mind you may just be battling a child. Even if they aren’t a child, when they act like one treat them accordingly.

Latitude

…by any chance is this person allergic to MSG? (Monosodium glutamate)

Taphonomic

A google search on “Magic gas effect” (with quotes) is enlightening.

Ah, your good friend Douglas J. Cotton. The title says it all ! 🙂
When I read the first few lines, I thought it would be your personal stalker, Hot Sue from Down Under, but no, it’s the inventor of the “heat creep process”. Speaking of “creeps”, this one really belongs in the Looney bin.

DonM

What I continually wonder is: how do some people obtain, or retain, the resources that let them do what they do? (given the apparent/obvious limitations that they are burdened with).

Louis

Johan, until your comment, I was beginning to wonder if anyone reads titles anymore.

I dismissed the idea of it being sou immediately. It’s not her style. I would not have thought it was Doug Cottons either. He rants but I have never heard him rant like this
Tonyb

EternalOptimist

Paging Dr Tourette. Your patient has arrived in reception

Joe Crawford

+10

George McFly......I'm your density

Anthony, I agree with EternalOptimist here. My initial thought was bipolar but I think Tourette fits better.
This person has a serious disorder.

John Harmsworth

Poorly controlled anger, incoherent rambling, loss of focus, no recognition of obvious facts, loss of connection with reality. Everyday Warmist!

John Bills

D. C.

HalfEmpty

Just your basic kook.
Joe Mendiola would take =============> him in 3.

BFL

These types of outbursts (for which there is a name: “Intermittent Explosive Disorder”) used to bother me some but anymore I consider them humorous (in a dark way) because they are obviously from a person that has a seriously malfunctioning neurological system and deserve pity without any return action. So unless they are physically nearby, in which case it is best to quickly leave the area if possible, the correct action is to unemotionally ignore what is obviously an unimportant psychological rant that has no basis for rational discussion.
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/intermittent-explosive-disorder/basics/definition/con-20024309

SteveC

Anthony, sometimes it’s more important to know who your friends are NOT!

Wow . Reminds me of a eKo neighbor who when I spoke at our local Intermountain Rural Electric Association annual meeting here lauding the virtues of CO2 and pointing out that all the woodlands around us giving us the name Woodland Park are mainly made of CO2 married to H2O in equal molar amounts . He challenged me to meet him by the nearby Red Rocks formation to teach me science with his fists .
The guy’s as inarticulate as a suicide bomber .
It’s the gap between the computation of radiative balance for a sphere for any arbitrary spectra plus the constraint imposed by the divergence theorem , and planetary surface temperatures which drives me to conclude that gravity is the force which must be included in the balance but somehow is excluded from the nearly universal paradigm . Equations exist for gravity ; none so far as I have ever seen for a spectral GHG explanation .

commieBob

… gravity is the force which must be included in the balance …

The gravity on Venus is a bit less than that on Earth. Venus is much hotter because its atmosphere is much denser. Here’s an explanation. You can’t ignore gravity but it’s only one thing.

Equations exist for gravity ; none so far as I have ever seen for a spectral GHG explanation .

There have been equations but most physicists ignored them because there were serious theoretical objections. It wasn’t until the advent of computer modeling that CO2 as an important GHG really took off. link

I scrolled down the whole https://www.aip.org/history/climate/co2.htm and didn’t see an equation anywhere .
WRT : Heller’s piece , I think the effect of gravity is often discussed as “lapse rate” or similar measures . But the elementary force in which the equations must be written is gravity .
I have put off working thru the equations I have seen presented until I can express them in my 4th.CoSy ( Finally available : CoSy on a stick )
Anybody in the nbd , ie : along the Front Range , make it to this year’s CoSy Midsummer Party for some interesting conversation :
http://cosy.com/y16/CoSyMSMM2016printInvite.jpg

commieBob

Bob Armstrong says: July 29, 2016 at 6:29 pm
I scrolled down the whole link and didn’t see an equation anywhere .

It’s true. There are no equations but they are referred to. Here’s an example.

In 1896 Arrhenius completed a laborious numerical computation which suggested that cutting the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere by half could lower the temperature in Europe some 4-5°C

For the equations Callendar used see “Joel O’Bryan says: November 14, 2014 at 7:00 am” at this post.
So, equations exist … for what they are worth.

ripshin

Oh man, that’s fantastic. Thanks for sharing Anthony. Can’t imagine having to deal with crap like that on a recurring basis. Sheesh!
rip

thread winner!

way too many pain meds, that was meant for down thread.

Joel Snider

That’s why I give guys like Anthony props for having the courage to be out front and take all those slings and arrows.