Ugly: "Why climate denial should be a criminal offence"

Christopher Smith writes in WUWT Tips and Notes:

Dr Jarrod Gilbert: Why climate denial should be a criminal offence

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Dr. Jarrod Gilbert

5:00 AM Tuesday Jul 26, 2016

New Zealand Social Scientist Dr Jarrod Gilbert is calling for the Crime of Climate Change Denial to be adopted.

There is no greater crime being perpetuated on future generations than that committed by those who deny climate change. The scientific consensus is so overwhelming that to argue against it is to perpetuate a dangerous fraud. Denial has become a yardstick by which intelligence can be tested. The term climate sceptic is now interchangeable with the term mindless fool.

Since the 1960s, it has been known that heat-trapping gasses were increasing in the earth’s atmosphere, but no one knew to what effect. In 1979, a study found “no reason to doubt that climate changes will result and no reason to believe that these changes will be negligible”. Since then scientists have been seeking to prove it, and the results are in.

Meta studies show that 97 per cent of published climate scientists agree that global warming is occurring and that it is caused by human activities. The American Association for the Advancement of Science compared it to the consensus linking smoking to cancer. The debate is over, yet doubt continues.

Source:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11681154


Using the “meta studies” of 97% consensus as his applicable research, this truly original thinker, investigator, capable observer both impartial and unbiased, has unleashed his completely reverent. timely and accurate assessment of his media fed diet of Apocalyptic climate change. Heaven forbid Nasa would ever make a mistake, falsify data or misrepresent and adjust 176 years of impartial data observations to suit its own data modelling efforts.

I’m ashamed to be a Kiwi when I read articles like this …. and I despair for the scientific method….

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Pete Wilson
July 26, 2016 2:37 am

I saw this on the Herald site today, as usual no comment section, just this fascist and his hateful bile. How low have we sunk when this sort of garbage is offered up as a meaningful contribution to any debate (over or not).
The MSM in New Zealand is as bad as anywhere in this regard.. Shame!

RockyRoad
Reply to  Pete Wilson
July 26, 2016 7:24 am

Sad how the REAL denialists are those pushing the CAGW meme. Would being caught in their own snare be considered honorable or just plain stupid?

Reply to  RockyRoad
July 26, 2016 9:17 am

It cannot be emphasized enough: the only true climate change deniers in this issue are those demanding the climate to be reset back to a point arbitrarily chosen from around 150 years ago …. and that the climate be forbidden to change from that point from now on.

JohnKnight
Reply to  RockyRoad
July 26, 2016 5:43 pm

Climelot: Climelot
I know it sounds a bit bizarre
But in Climelot: Climelot
That’s how conditions are . .
In short, there’s simply not a more congenial spot
For happily ever after in than here in Climelot !

asybot
Reply to  Pete Wilson
July 26, 2016 10:01 am

Pete 2:37 am: Re: ” as usual no comment section”. I have noticed that as well, it seems to have become standard practice by the MSM that is becoming the norm. ‘My way or the highway” . To me it is the saddest thing that is happening to the whole human race. This type of clamping down of the population is actually very frightening to me. Other people have noticed that there also seems to be a movement to slowly exclude our generation ( the seemingly last one to get an education rather than indoctrination). I have noticed that as well. Comments?

Lucius von Steinkaninchen
Reply to  asybot
July 26, 2016 11:21 am

Fortunately for us, the Internet is *way* bigger than the comment section of a newspaper/news site. Every time that I see that sort of CAGW “news” popping up in free social media, were comments *are* allowed, usually reason prevails and most people point it for what it is a modern times inquisition using fascist techniques.

Reply to  asybot
July 27, 2016 12:03 pm

We must resist and call their bluff at every turn. This Gilbert character is a real nut being paid to push the position of the far-left goons. If he doesn’t play ball he will be replaced by somewhere who will – still, he is selling his soul to the forces of darkness.

Reply to  asybot
July 27, 2016 1:59 pm

He is a prime example of the worst the human race has produced over however long it has been that people have been able to string thoughts and emotions together. Their ilk as brought so much misery to the world that only a giant meteor strike might approach it.

Graphite
Reply to  asybot
July 28, 2016 2:21 pm

The comments section under Herald stories, especially climate stories, used to be fun. And part of the fun was seeing, over a period of somewhere up to ten years, the twin developments of the warmists steadily losing ground and their arguments becoming more shrill and less scientific. At some time over the past year or two an editorial decision must have been made that comments were destroying the narrative; the percentage of posters who agreed with the thrust of each story was diminishing to the point where an approval rate in double digits was rarely achieved — and then only because the guy who signed himself Gandalf was contributing at a rate that indicated he was pretty much a fulltime keyboard warrior.
No news organ, leaning left or right, is going to continue providing a platform for contrary views. It simply makes no sense.
So, I consider the Herald’s withdrawal of comments on virtually all news and opinion pieces to be a battle won in the Climate Wars.

george e. smith
Reply to  Pete Wilson
July 26, 2016 11:54 am

It should be a criminal offence to call Social Studies a science..
G

eyesonu
Reply to  george e. smith
July 26, 2016 7:01 pm

I hope you intended no pun in your comment above as I don’t ever remember a truer statement.
Jarrod Gilbert is a nut case and no scientist. Those like him seem suffer from severe clinical ‘projection’ which may be treatable with long term psychiatric counseling. Another possibility/probability is that he is perpetuating a global level fraud and the treatment would be considerably different for such a criminal offense.

John Harmsworth
Reply to  george e. smith
July 26, 2016 7:58 pm

It’s certainly intellectually offensive. Dr. Jerrod Gilbert H.A. (Horses Ass). From a “discipline?” wherein over 60% of peer reviewed papers cannot be replicated, presumes to place himself in judgement of both science and law that is beyond his intellectual grasp. All hail Emperor Jerrod! Doesn’t he know he has no clothes?

alan neil ditchfield
Reply to  george e. smith
July 29, 2016 4:51 pm

THE ALICE IN WONDERLAND WORLD OF SOCIAL SCIENCE
Alan Sokal, a professor of physics at New York University, collected clippings of weird things written by post-modern thinkers about hard science, especially those who use abstruse mathematical terms to make their text incomprehensible, and be mistaken as profound. He grew weary of nonsense about a science described as white, male and Eurocentric. He came to the conclusion that there is no such thing called a social science, because anything goes. He submitted his opinion to experimental test.
PROPOSITION
That a prestigious sociology journal would publish an essay full of outrageous statements, from a scientific point of view, provided it was:
Well written and of learned appearance;
Attuned to the prejudices of the editor.
Sokal’s essay announced the discovery of Quantum Gravity, the synthesis in a superior plane of relativity theory and quantum mechanics, which supersedes both. He had done it with the dialectical logic of social sciences that did away with the outworn formal logic and systematic experiment, still in use and unduly so. The implications of quantum gravity are so revolutionary that the article had been rejected for publication in peer-reviewed journals of physics, and this was the reason for the request for publication in Social Text, a periodical known for an open mind.
The article had nonsense galore, immediately perceptible as a joke by an engineering student. The essay favored mathematics free from the constraints of the rules of arithmetic and stood against the teaching of the geometry of Euclid, an instrument of domination of the working class. There was anti-feminist prejudice in fluid mechanics. All would be relative. The number pi( 3.1416), the speed of light, c, and the constant of gravitation, G, accepted as constants in a given epoch, would change in another social context. [For pi=4, would circles become squares and planets cubes?]
None of this was invented by Sokal; all the nonsense was extracted from what was stated by post-modernist thinkers about hard science and is supported by more than one hundred citations.
PROOF
Sokal’s essay Transgressing the Boundaries: Towards a Transformative Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity was published “Social Text” #46/47, pp. 217-252 (1996).
In another publication, at the same time, Sokal explained what he had done and regretted that a silent tide of irrationality threatened institutions of higher learning to dictate, from a blind and intolerant pulpit, what is right to do, say and think.
QUOD ERAT DEMONSTRANDUM
France is home to scientists like Descartes, Pascal, Fermat, D’Alembert, Delambre, Fourier, Lagrange, Monge, Poisson, Laplace, Cauchy, Galois, Poincaré, Benoit Mandelbrot. Then came Post-modernists with the semantics of a Lewis Carroll character: “When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less”. It leads to proficiency in: Ambition, Distraction, Uglification, Derision, in the strange world of Alice in Wonderland.
Sokal’s essay is available on Internet at: .

Reply to  Pete Wilson
July 26, 2016 12:55 pm

You would reach far more people by writing a letter to the editor. Articles like this are sometimes published to draw mail. Your letter would be more likely to be published if either (a) you are a subscriber, or (b) you have credentials in climate science or social studies. If the paper received multiple letters, so much the better.

czechlist
Reply to  verdeviewer
July 26, 2016 4:35 pm

I’ve found Letters to the Editor to be a waste of time. Most who read them are usually in a politically opinionated “my mind’s made up” group seeking an argument. Those who need enlightenment only read the sports page and the comics.
Besides, most politically correct newspapers will not print any CAGW skepticism.

Wrusssr
Reply to  Pete Wilson
July 26, 2016 1:53 pm

Actually the U.S is a stride ahead of NZ. No known media value in more than half a century. The informed read, watch MSM to discover which lies they need to background themselves about. Hat tip to Gore for the ‘Net.

Reply to  Pete Wilson
July 26, 2016 5:47 pm

I too am a New Zealander utterly ashamed of my origins. I would welcome this clown to try to arrest me. No doubt he would vigorously defend THIS

stamper44
Reply to  Paul
July 26, 2016 8:31 pm

As an NZer I too am ashamed. I am hoping to get a “letter to the Editor” published – but don’t hold out too much hope. This is about “the Cause”, it is no longer a matter of science, but we all knew that many years ago.

Graham
Reply to  Pete Wilson
July 26, 2016 8:01 pm

Jackboot Jarrod does have a blog in which he revisits his tosh. No comments there at this time. Or no comments that he wants to publish! What a nutball.
http://www.jarrodgilbert.com/blog/fuck-ups-and-forgiveness-my-latest-new-zealand-herald-column

Freddy Eagle
Reply to  Pete Wilson
July 27, 2016 1:02 pm

I did not know till now IKEA bookshelves came with a ladder! Must get me one for my new selfie.

Manfred
Reply to  Pete Wilson
July 28, 2016 12:55 am

The NZ Fourth Estate, as ever keen to demonstrate the traitorous betrayal of their societal role. Therein resides the claim of criminal offense.

Robert of Ottawa
July 26, 2016 2:39 am

The article starts: Dr Jarrod Gilbert is a sociologist …
‘Nuff said. The question is why he says this now.

Greg
Reply to  Robert of Ottawa
July 26, 2016 5:03 am

The name Dr Jarrod Gilbert is now interchangeable with the term mindless fool.
Thanks for your contribution to the advancement of science doc.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Greg
July 26, 2016 6:13 am

Move over John Kerry, you may have met your match.

John Harmsworth
Reply to  Robert of Ottawa
July 26, 2016 8:02 pm

Trying to get a grant probably. Hardly looks employable to me, but might do for government work.

londo
Reply to  Robert of Ottawa
July 28, 2016 8:19 am

Absolutely correct. I believe he simply realized little late how much money there is in climate propaganda and he wants a piece of the action. Being a sociologist, he lacks the internal consistency checks that a physicist would apply, at least to thoughts he expresses in public.

Wrusssr
July 26, 2016 2:42 am

Made it as far as the first six words in the NZ article: Dr Jarrod Gilbert is a sociologist . . .
It was late. Had to grab some sleep.

Reply to  Wrusssr
July 26, 2016 8:01 am

Photo of a fat healthy polar bear on an ice flow makes the irony even richer.

asybot
Reply to  susanjcrockford
July 26, 2016 10:03 am

I wondered if somebody had to show him how to open the book he was holding.

Mack
July 26, 2016 2:46 am

This AGW indoctrinated trougher with his “heat trapping gases” and “smokers” meme, is certainly going to get an email from me. Obviously guzzled too much Koolaid.

DavidS
Reply to  Mack
July 26, 2016 2:27 pm

Yes, it was the ‘heat trapping gases’ bit that caught my ire. What a blathering idiot. Obviously with his superior intellect, he would have no problem debating the issue on WUWT with all the mindless fools.
(The last sentence was sarcasm by the way)

Tom Halla
July 26, 2016 2:48 am

Doubleplus ungood crimethink?

FTOP_T
Reply to  Tom Halla
July 26, 2016 5:33 am

When I read his statement, “there is no greater crime” I immediately thought of V for Vendetta. It is ironic how Hollywood portrays fascism as right-wing when it is clearly the method of the liberal agenda.
In this case, “deny” is not equated to proof. “Deny” is equated to consensus. Thus, the “greatest crime” is to think for oneself.
To further his argument, he then states that “intelligence” is indicated by accepting the consensus. Anyone who analyzes the evidence and does not submit to the unproven consensus is a “mindless fool”.
George Orwell is wagging his finger with a bold “I told you so!!”

MarkW
Reply to  FTOP_T
July 26, 2016 6:57 am

Beyond that, nobody denies that climate changes.
What the debate is about is first, how much is it changing, and secondly how much of that change is man responsible for.

mailman
Reply to  FTOP_T
July 26, 2016 7:16 am

I thought there was a third question too, how much should be invested in Mann Made Global Warming ™ without bankrupting Western Civilisation.

Rod Everson
Reply to  FTOP_T
July 26, 2016 7:54 am

mailman: And a fourth: Is the forecasted warming, should it occur, even bad for humanity and the earth? The answer is certainly not obvious.

MarkW
Reply to  FTOP_T
July 26, 2016 9:26 am

mailman, I thought bankrupting western civilization was the goal?

Lorne WHITE
Reply to  FTOP_T
July 29, 2016 6:01 am

“MarkW:
Beyond that, nobody denies that climate changes.
What the debate is about is first, how much is it changing, and secondly how much of that change is man responsible for.”
and thirdly, what to do to Be Prepared for whatever change happens (bigger storm sewers? more trees? smaller cities? better insulated buildings for both warm or cool change? etc).

rtj1211
July 26, 2016 2:56 am

One has to say there is a unique opportunity for the Climate Realist equivalent of Nelson Mandela to one day electrify the world with a court case so profound, so compelling and so pure in the way that the defendant takes to pieces the credentials of the Judge, the Prosecutors, the Established media and the law enforcement professions by speaking unpalatable truth not solely to power, but to 12 Good People and True who will hopefully still be legally charged with sitting as a jury in a duly constituted Court of Law………
‘I want to apply for Your Worship’s recusal from this case. I challenge the right of this court to hear my case on two grounds.
Firstly, I challenge it because I fear that I will not be given a fair and proper trial. Secondly, I consider myself neither legally nor morally bound to obey laws made by a parliament in which I have no representation.
In a political trial such as this one, which involves a clash of the aspirations of the African people and those of whites, the country’s courts, as presently constituted, cannot be impartial and fair.
In such cases, whites are interested parties. To have a white judicial officer presiding, however high his esteem, and however strong his sense of fairness and justice, is to make whites judges in their own case.
It is improper and against the elementary principles of justice to entrust whites with cases involving the denial by them of basic human rights to the African people.
What sort of justice is this that enables the aggrieved to sit in judgement over those against whom they have laid a charge?
A judiciary controlled entirely by whites and enforcing laws enacted by a white parliament in which Africans have no representation – laws which in most cases are passed in the face of unanimous opposition from Africans -‘
I’m sure a little changing of a few words in there and climate realists will get the gist of what I am talking about…….

Barbara
Reply to  rtj1211
July 26, 2016 1:00 pm

Had a law professor who said you can sue a “ham-sandwich” if you wanted to.

Barbara
Reply to  Barbara
July 26, 2016 6:09 pm

Gather “information” on something, some individual, some organization, some company and build a case.

John Harmsworth
Reply to  Barbara
July 26, 2016 8:06 pm

Cool idea! All I ever really want is the ham anyway! That and seeing the look on bread’s face.

Moa
Reply to  rtj1211
July 26, 2016 6:03 pm

Don’t you know that Nelson Mandela was a mass-murdering communist who never apologized for any of the victims he had brutally slaughtered? the only reason he sought reconciliation is because his patron, the Soviet Union, collapsed around the time he came to power.
The Statist Collectivists have not only lied about Climate Change, they lie about EVERYTHING – including Mandela’s record. If one is skeptical about the CAGW hypothesis one should also be skeptical about everything the Left lionizes – and it turns out Mandela is the beneficiary of Leftist propaganda that does not match his actual record. If he apologized for any of his victims he might be left off, but he was completely unrepentant.
See Stefan Molyneaux’s “The Truth About Nelson Mandela”, and there are also great exposes of the perpetual cadger Karl Marx, the psychopathic Che Guevara, and the deceptive Ghandi.
“The Truth About Nelson Mandela ”

Please stop repeating the false memes of the Collectivists. Mandela was an unrepentant mass murderer – the lives of his victims matter !
“The Truth About” Series with Stefan Molyneux

Roy Taylor
July 26, 2016 3:12 am

What is this idiot going to say in 5 years when they have all changed their minds?

Reply to  Roy Taylor
July 26, 2016 9:17 am

they will say “The efforts that they made resulted in the blunting of the climate catastrophe that would have occurred, AND the sustainable practices that have been implemented because of the lessened reliance on fossil fuels were worth it.”
They will rationalize their beliefs and actions until they die (or retire on a government pension).

MarkW
Reply to  DonM
July 26, 2016 9:27 am

Look at how many still believe that banning CFCs saved the ozone layer.

John Harmsworth
Reply to  DonM
July 26, 2016 8:13 pm

After they’ve sacrificed the world economy on the alter of Climate , they will blame the world’s desperation on Capitalism and tell us that Socialism is the only path to salvation. That and free money. Free money is always available.

rw
Reply to  Roy Taylor
July 26, 2016 11:53 am

Years ago their cover would have been, “I never said that.” Now they’re stuck with, “My words were misinterpreted.”

Reply to  rw
July 26, 2016 12:37 pm

“Taken out of context,” is what they’ll say.

Hugs
Reply to  Roy Taylor
July 26, 2016 12:13 pm

There are lots of options.
– Some of them never repent.
– Some of them deny ever thinking about criminalizing dissent
– Some of them continue their fascist ideas with different targets
– Some of them change their mind, but new fascists always appear
The idea that quantification of an antropogenic greenhouse effect could be written to a lawbook as a some kind of god that cannot be questioned, is far-fetched but definitely both stupid and dangerous.

Alex Jenkins
July 26, 2016 3:15 am

I’m really starting to despair for the scientific tradition, with the way we’re going. From the “AGs united for clean power with Loretta Lynch and the rest of them, and Al Gore, to this. Is it going to actually be put in place? It looks somewhat likely, given the leaders we have at the moment, and from what I can see, we could actually be put in gulags, mental institutes or prison for holding certain beliefs in the near future. I wonder what we could do to at least try and stem the tide to where we are heading.

CodeTech
July 26, 2016 3:16 am

This would be funny if these lunatics weren’t so deadly serious.
However… the “greater crime being perpetuated on future generations” is these idiots running up huge debt to fight a war against an illusory foe, destroying the landscape to build useless windmills, and shutting down all of the most effective methods of power generation, and distracting our civilization from the real, armed, warring enemy.
History will not be kind to these despicable alarmists. I intend to make sure of that.

Geoff Sherrington
Reply to  CodeTech
July 26, 2016 4:42 am

Perpetrated not perpetuated.
Perpetrate – Carry out or commit (a harmful, illegal, or immoral action)
Perpetuate – Make (something) continue indefinitely
Illiterates

Greg
Reply to  Geoff Sherrington
July 26, 2016 5:09 am

Hey don’t be too hard on him, he’s only a sociologist after all !!

Reply to  Geoff Sherrington
July 26, 2016 5:39 am

Quick to judge, are we? If you look at the relative positions of the “r” and “u” in relation to the homerow letters “f” and “j” on the qwerty keyboard, all one need do is use the right index finger rather than the left index finger and the word perpetrate becomes perpetuate. Perhaps not “illiterate”, but a simple typo. Happens to me regularly as I age. Chill out, Geoffy!

Reply to  Geoff Sherrington
July 26, 2016 6:01 am

There is no greater crime being perpetuated on future generations than that committed by those who deny climate change.
Passing on government debt for future generations to pay has to be a contender for greatest “crime being [perpetrated] on future generations.”

Harry Passfield
Reply to  Geoff Sherrington
July 26, 2016 6:35 am

Then again, Geoff: “Perpetuate – Make (something) continue indefinitely” – the criminal insanity being visited on us and our descendants by the Green blob could be said to be perpetuated. 🙂

Chris Riley
Reply to  Geoff Sherrington
July 26, 2016 8:08 am

To me tis looks more like a spelcheck, a feature that is gud at turning a misspelled word into a rong word dat is spelled correctly. boy im glad i dont hafe that prollum.

Jan Christoffersen
Reply to  Geoff Sherrington
July 26, 2016 8:48 am

Geoff,
I think he means it is being extended to future generations. So, his usage is correct but the article is dreadful drivel nonetheless.

Michael Jankowski
Reply to  Geoff Sherrington
July 26, 2016 10:08 am

Jan,
You can perpetrate a crime ON someone…which is his exact wording and context.
Perpetuating denial ON future generations makes no sense.
First usage below is wrong…second is correct.
“..There is no greater crime being perpetuated on future generations than that committed by those who deny climate change. The scientific consensus is so overwhelming that to argue against it is to perpetuate a dangerous fraud…”

James J Strom
Reply to  Geoff Sherrington
July 26, 2016 12:51 pm

Word similarity plus lack of curiosity. It’s not a typo, since you hear people offering the same confusion in speech. On the bright side maybe Gilbert should relax. If the “error” has been perpetuated there’s nothing to be done about it.

JohnKnight
Reply to  Geoff Sherrington
July 26, 2016 6:11 pm

“…all one need do is use the right index finger rather than the left index finger…”
As a potentially perpetual perpetrator of a thought crime, I’m inclined to use other fingers in response to my persecutors proposed prosecution . .

CodeTech
Reply to  Geoff Sherrington
July 26, 2016 7:36 pm

For the record, I just copied and pasted the sentence.

Geoff Sherrington
Reply to  CodeTech
July 26, 2016 11:57 pm

Code Tech
That is what I understood.
The illiterates are the original writers. Did not mean it otherwise.
Cheers. Geoff

SAMURAI
July 26, 2016 3:17 am

Ah, yes…. Long live the logical fallacies of argumentum ad populum and argumentum ad verecundiam, with just a touch of post hoc ergo propter hoc to give it a nice robust flavor…
A recipe for disaster..
NASA’s motto used to be: “In God we trust.. Everyone else, send data”…
Of course this old NASA motto is no longer Politically Correct, so it’s been adjusted to: In government funding we trust. Everyone else, send model projections…

Not Oscar, just a grouch
Reply to  SAMURAI
July 26, 2016 9:31 pm

You see, you confuse these people when you use difficult words such as “fallacies.” With their low-voltage intellects, they probably think you’re talking about their genitals.

Bleeker
July 26, 2016 3:21 am

Dr Jarrod Gilbert, the perfect puppet for the climate inquisition.

Frederick Michael
Reply to  Bleeker
July 26, 2016 8:21 am

No one expects the inquisition.

Hugs
Reply to  Frederick Michael
July 26, 2016 12:16 pm

Do you deny, or have you ever denied an IPCC truth (TM) on climate change, its attribution or mitigation policies?

Michael C. Roberts
Reply to  Frederick Michael
July 27, 2016 1:06 pm

No one expects the SPANISH Inquisition!
(h/t Monty Python’s Flying Circus…)

Just watched this had forgotten how exquisitely (or is that inquisitely?) funny this is……

Jack
July 26, 2016 3:23 am

FOr Goodness sake.
New Zealand was where the first challenge to data in court occurred. The warmists refused to turn up to defend it once the sceptics evidence was given.
New Zealand also was exposed as the warmist cartel tried to get a man sacked from University for not kowtowing to them. They failed there also.
New Zealand also was where a court rejected a Pacific Islander’s facetious claim as being a climate change refugee.
Yet this climate advocate is trying to get sceptics jailed? He must like losing in court or he is some sort of educated simpleton.

Greg
Reply to  Jack
July 26, 2016 5:11 am

… or an uneducated simpleton.
“The name Dr Jarrod Gilbert is now interchangeable with the term mindless fool” as they say in NZ.

schitzree
Reply to  Greg
July 26, 2016 7:03 am

I don’t know, I kind of like the phrase ‘educated simpleton’. It neatly sums up my opinion of 97% of academia today.

Reply to  Jack
July 26, 2016 5:50 am

“uneducated simpleton” “mindless fool”
As are so many in the fields of sociology, psychology, and law that have brought about destructive ideologies and practices that are undermining our cultural stability. I fear for my grandchildren.

Alan Wilkinson
July 26, 2016 3:25 am

The article is ignorant, abusive drivel but the headline is even worse. Even the writer has disowned it entirely. A disgrace to journalism, basic intelligence and decency. The MSM digs its own grave.

Reply to  Alan Wilkinson
July 26, 2016 4:36 am

They won’t need a grave. Like scifi golems of film, they’ll just go up on in a puff of smoke and disappear.

Rod Everson
Reply to  Alan Wilkinson
July 26, 2016 8:03 am

Anthony, If Mr. Wilkinson is correct and the writer of the article has lodged an objection to the headline, you should definitely update the article to include his objection. Upon re-reading the text of the article, the writer did not call for making skepticism a “criminal offense.” Rather, he stated that there is “no greater crime” than skepticism. There is a difference. He’s using hyperbole. He’s not calling for legislation to criminalize skepticism, as the headline writer implied.

John Harmsworth
Reply to  Rod Everson
July 26, 2016 8:24 pm

There is a magical point where stupidity becomes dangerous. This idiot crossed the line.

Reply to  Alan Wilkinson
July 26, 2016 8:20 am

He used the word “crime” three times in his article and “criminal” once – and ended with a reference to the law – then complained the damning headline went too far?
He’s a professional sociologist.
What did he think the headline writers would do with an essay that begins: “There is no greater crime being perpetuated…”? That is also irrational.

Reply to  susanjcrockford
July 26, 2016 10:54 am

“He’s a professional “pseudo-intellectual””
Fixed that for you SJ, love your work by the way.

James Allison
July 26, 2016 3:29 am

The problem people such as Dr Jarrod Gilbert have is they think that doubters of the validity of the climate models and ‘evidence’ are made up of a small fringe section of society. Thus easily attacked and denigrated. The best course of action would be to demonstrate by email to Dr Jarrod Gilbert that he is mistaken.

Joe Crawford
Reply to  James Allison
July 26, 2016 4:45 am

“The problem people such as Dr Jerrod Gilbert have is” … the hollow space between their ears. Even if presented with a decent education there is nothing there to absorb it.

July 26, 2016 3:35 am

Words fail me.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  dch47982
July 26, 2016 7:19 am

Dr Gilbert’s logic fails him.

Reply to  Pop Piasa
July 26, 2016 10:53 am

The fact he has a doctorate shows there is inherent failures in academia

Eugene WR Gallun
Reply to  Pop Piasa
July 26, 2016 11:14 am

Mark-Helsinki — John Cook The Books is working towards his doctorate. — Eugene WR Gallun

July 26, 2016 3:41 am

Lol Jarrod, I tried to have a rational discussion with the guy. even in his friend social science and his concept of denial.
His replies
Jarrod Gilbert ‏@JarrodGilbertNZ 29m29 minutes ago
@Logic_Argue I found the answers to such questions in the Matrix. Only the first one, though. I thought they were rubbish after that.

Jarrod Gilbert ‏@JarrodGilbertNZ 34m34 minutes ago
@Logic_Argue C I’m a terrible cook. I mean really bad. Embarrassing, really. Even simple things like eggs.
Jarrod Gilbert ‏@JarrodGilbertNZ 38m38 minutes ago
@Logic_Argue And I’m asking to pull off one of your ears. That’s not unfair either. You have two of them!
Jarrod Gilbert ‏@JarrodGilbertNZ 41m41 minutes ago
@Logic_Argue Just because I want to tap your eye with your ear doesn’t mean I will block you. I mean, where would my manners be?
Finally he ran away
Jarrod Gilbert ‏@JarrodGilbertNZ 30m30 minutes ago
@Logic_Argue Anyhoo, great talking with you but best I get some sleep now. Too many maniacs, not enough time in the day. You know how it is.
except he didnt
Jarrod Gilbert ‏@JarrodGilbertNZ 46m46 minutes ago
Jarrod Gilbert Retweeted Jarrod Gilbert
Sometimes I like to think creativity trumps reason.
Yes this loon is poisoning young minds all at tax payers expense

Reply to  Mark - Helsinki
July 26, 2016 3:42 am

even in his field*

MarkW
Reply to  Mark - Helsinki
July 26, 2016 9:30 am

He’s outstanding in his field.
And someone needs to go get him before it starts raining.

Reply to  Mark - Helsinki
July 26, 2016 10:52 am

+1 marko, niiiiiice 😀

Eugene WR Gallun
Reply to  Mark - Helsinki
July 26, 2016 11:22 am

MarkW — Takes a few seconds to get it. Doesn’t know enough to come in out of the rain. — Eugene WR Gallun

sophocles
Reply to  Mark - Helsinki
July 26, 2016 11:57 am

Mark W:
He’s admitted he lives in NZ. It’s winter in NZ. It’s stopped raining—barely—for only a few short intervals over the last two months. That photo must be at least four months old. That’s when it was fine and dry.

Wrusssr
Reply to  Mark - Helsinki
July 26, 2016 3:36 pm

Please, stop picking at the poor man. All he’s suggesting is that you should be locked you for not agreeing with him. Try to remember he was once human, as human as you and I.

John Harmsworth
Reply to  Wrusssr
July 26, 2016 8:27 pm

If you knew him as a kid, you might not feel that way!

Tom Harley
July 26, 2016 3:42 am

Not owned by Fairfax is it? Or The Guardian,
going bust?

Reply to  Tom Harley
July 26, 2016 3:43 am

The guardian like twitter is appealing to the ideologues to try stay relevant.

Tom Harley
Reply to  Mark - Helsinki
July 26, 2016 3:48 am

Trying to go broke, while Evangelizing about coal and gas and …https://pindanpost.com/2016/07/26/drinking-the-guardians-kool-ade/ silly stuff

Frederik Michiels
July 26, 2016 3:47 am

i always find it amusing when they use the word “deniers”: Like if we would “deny the climate is changing”.
i have bad news for them: almost every CAGW sceptic does say the climate is changing, but got the big picture right: earth’s climate is always changing, it did so in the past, will do it in the future, it will go up, but also will go down. CO2 can’t be “the mother of all drivers”, it’s far to insignificant compared to water vapor.
ice core data also shows that what we see now is peanuts and perfectly normal compared to what earth can throw at us.

Eustace Cranch
Reply to  Frederik Michiels
July 26, 2016 8:16 am

You have to understand that the warmist definition of “climate change” is CAGW. Never mind what the actual words mean. Therefore, being skeptical of CAGW = denying “climate change.”
They will ALWAYS twist the words so you can’t win.

MarkW
Reply to  Eustace Cranch
July 26, 2016 9:31 am

To many environmentalists, any change to nature, if it is caused by man, is by definition evil and most be fought, no matter the cost.

Michael Jankowski
Reply to  Frederik Michiels
July 26, 2016 10:01 am

“Denier” is a rhetorical device meant to associate skeptics with Holocaust deniers. You may laugh, but it leaves an impression on some.

sophocles
Reply to  Frederik Michiels
July 26, 2016 11:59 am

My Oxford English Dictionary has a single meaning for “denier and it’s:
One who denies a religion.
That’s it.
’nuff said.

rogerthesurf
July 26, 2016 3:49 am

I looked this guy up on the university website. His field of research is “Gangs”, Murder, Justice & Injustice and Criminal recidivism and desistance.
I’m ashamed the The Press, who regularly publishes un-documented and therefore fictional articles about climate change could stoop this low.
Strangely enough I have an example of the Herald’s fiction and my efforrts to enquire of the source of one of their previous articles on my website.
https://thedemiseofchristchurch.com/2016/05/06/six-reasons-why-you-should-worry-about-climate-change/
Cheers
Roger

Harry Passfield
July 26, 2016 3:52 am

It seems that ‘AAAS’ now stands for ‘Antipodean Association for the Advancement of Stoopid’

Greg
Reply to  Harry Passfield
July 26, 2016 5:15 am

No, it stands for : where did you get your proof of CAGW? I pulled it out of [my] AAAS.

July 26, 2016 4:06 am

It is good that Dr Jarrod Gilbert does not “Climat-weibing” – his Red Guards, because we would have made a revolution of climate (such as Cultural Revolution – with the same result).
I’m kidding?
How much will cost us “fighting” against climate change (eg. CCS, wind turbines – aviation radars, etc.)?
For example “political correctness” (the Syrian refuges) costs, some EU countries, hundreds dead.
The Science, dear “Dr”, is not a democracy – does not create the majority by “voting” (although here the alarmist CAGW majority is very, very questionable).

George Lawson
July 26, 2016 4:11 am

Only a ‘mindless fool’ like Dr? Gilbert, would call the thousands of expert scientists who disagree with his theory, ‘mindless fools’. Gilbert should be stripped of his academic qualifications through treating his fellow scientist and others who disagree with him so disgracefully. It is clear that he has great difficulty in getting his theories accepted through sound argument, and still supports the ridiculous 97 per cent. falsehood.

TonyL
Reply to  George Lawson
July 26, 2016 4:25 am

treating his fellow scientist and others who disagree

I am a chemist and I do not consider sociologists to be fellow scientists by any stretch of the imagination. This guy is just one example why.

July 26, 2016 4:26 am

After my interlude with Jarrod this happened on Twitter
“Your account has been locked.”

Vlad the Impaler
Reply to  Mark - Helsinki
July 26, 2016 8:36 am

Best thing that has ever happened to you.

Reply to  Vlad the Impaler
July 26, 2016 10:51 am

Yep I logged a ticket asking Twitter to not just block me but delete my acc 😀

Bruce Cobb
July 26, 2016 4:31 am

There is no greater crime being perpetuated on…”
In addition to his extreme failures in logic, and total demagoguery, Jarrod is a language retard. You can’t perpetuate on, you can only perpetrate on.

July 26, 2016 4:31 am

The noble quest of chaging the weather by collecting carbon taxes needs these idiots.

Barbara
Reply to  raffaellocarboni2014
July 26, 2016 1:13 pm

Aren’t these carbon taxes really “sin” taxes ?

Miles Fortis
Reply to  Barbara
July 26, 2016 3:00 pm

No, the best analogy is the “indulgences” that were bought from the Church in the late 15th/early 16th century that drove Martin Luther to nail his Theses on that church door.

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