From MCGILL UNIVERSITY and the “30 years defines a climate trend and 24 years defines toad trend department” comes this dreck. I call bullshit.
24-year study of spring emergence of Fowler’s Toads creates model for predicting climate-change effects

McGill University professor David M. Green of the Redpath Museum and his students have been studying Fowler’s Toads on the shore of Lake Erie at Long Point, Ontario, for over 24 consecutive years. Green’s focus? To use weather records to predict the springtime emergence of toads from their annual eight-month hibernation — and, by doing so, determine if a warming climate is changing the toads’ behaviour.
Timing is everything
Green found that the toads’ timing can be predicted based on environmental conditions well before the bumpy-skinned amphibians actually wake up. ”
“The toads are buried up to a meter deep in the sand. What drives them to come up is when the sand below them becomes colder than the sand above,” explains Green. “Year after year, on average, this has been getting earlier and earlier.”
The model Green has developed could have broader applications, he says. . On the grander scale, if this approach applies to other animals and plants, too, we could generate some powerful information about what is to come as the climate warms.
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZVdN85ufJo
You never know, it might be useful
The long-running project stemmed, somewhat inadvertently, from Green’s PhD research into the interbreeding between Fowler’s and American Toads. When he became a McGill professor, Green continued to study the toads’ behaviour, “Because I needed to be at the scene for the start of the toads’ breeding season, I began to note when the toads came out of hibernation,” he says. “While I didn’t set out to study climate change 25 years ago, the data I collected turned out to be far more valuable and interesting then I could have imagined!”
During the nearly quarter-century that Green has been studying toads in the field at night, he’s encountered his share of hardships. Once, his car got stuck in a sand drift, forcing him to “walk six kilometres with leaky boots with only a failing headlamp to get home,'” he recalls. But the painstaking observations have made possible the model that now enables him to predict the toads’ springtime emergence.
Going forward
And the work continues. To test his predictions and make them more precise, Green now has probes in the dunes at Long Point that are recording temperatures underground every 30 minutes. “What the temperature does and what the toads do should match,” Green says. “We can also apply this information to investigate when other organisms living on, and in, the dunes wake up in spring.”
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“Amphibian breeding phenology trends under climate change: predicting the past to forecast the future” David M. Green, Global Change Biology http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/journal/10.1111/(ISSN)1365-2486/earlyview
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Is the climate changing?
I “toad” you it is.
/grin
I see you’ve toad the climate change party line, JohnWho.
These people are so desperate that they will say and do anything. Don’t they have any shame?
Toads! Unite! Remove the Peeping Tom that has been skulking around at night for the past 25 years spying on your sex habits! CREEPY!
Finally a prediction – not a projection! Where is that prediction? Is it as usual a prediction for year 2100?
Oh, my bad – they are predicting the past.
The onlinelibrary link does not work.
try this http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/gcb.13390/full
I guess this guy is assuming the climate has already changed, since he thinks he is getting toad results related to climate change.
Scientific Society’s claim CAGW is real, without any evidence of such, and all these scientists are working on the assumption it is real, and here. Based on nothing tangible.
The CAGW promoters have one heck of a scam going here. Lots of interested players looking to personally benefit. Hard to derail. But derailed it will be.
“Based on nothing tangible.” On the contrary. The grants that drive this are quite tangible. 😉
Do the authors of The Onion get science grants?
If not, why not?
Impossible to comment on this without losing my temper. All too stupid for words.
But grrr! I promised myself I would always give a reason for expressing an opinion, so let me try. Toad emergence time gives ONE data point per year per planet. Not even as good as one tree ring multiplied 200-odd times – at least that tree ring got a teensy bit diluted by other also-useless tree rings. This guy is just chasing some extra $$ for doing what he likes – which is apparently watching toads.
“The toads are buried up to a meter deep in the sand.”
Many individuals are buried very, very deep.
At least the toads will get out of the sand at some point.
Amazingly useful research that lets a person predict when toads & other organisms emerge from their winter hibernation. It can be used for all sorts of important stuff, like . That’s it, a big zero on the usefulness stakes.
It’s still better than feminist glaciology.
Simple-Touriste
ROTFLOL You definitely got that one right.
Yeah, I don’t think that toads rely on calendars. Makes sense, warts and all.
Mayflies would be better, then I would know the exact date to go trout fishing.
Hi Warren – see my reply below re NZ studying “whale’s breath” in the interest of climate change. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.
Try both. it’s what I do.
Stamper, Bill,
Both it is. Plus another resolve to belittle the green lunacy every chance.
“Warmest June in modern times”
Yes, but I the Medieval Warm Period they often had three or four warmer Junes. Each Year.
“CO2 rising”
Yes, and to the nearest tenth of one percent by volume – how much CO2 is there in the atmosphere today?
[None – many nearly-innumerate warmists choke on that.]
“Unprecedented”.
Hmmm. And how far back does the record go? CET – over 300 years, but many satellite observations – not so far back that I couldn’t vote!
There are more.
Auto
if had developed a climate model to predict sand depth he wouldn’t have got bogged.
the toads are trying to tell us that climate science is long on research funding and short on research questions.
in other words, climate science is running out of research questions.
The toad should be the mascot of climate scientivists.
Especially the toads with their heads way down deep in the sand. 🙂
It is getting warmer. Toads are coming out earlier. So what? Looks like a wasted career to me.
Actually, they don’t (at least according to the presented data):
” …The date of DayE exhibited no significant trend (R² = 0.005, F1,22 = 0.116, P = 0.736, slope = 0.072) over the 24 years…”
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gl0f4wOvQU&w=640&h=360%5D
now this IS a toad:-) enjoy;-)
I say let’s do a comparison study. Let’s bury the researcher a meter deep in the sand and seen when (s)he come out … bet the toad wins.
Don’t waste the idea, ask (and get) a grant.
Actually, what these biologists are doing makes good sense.
For example, when I was teaching chemistry lab, we had all the usual suspects. The classes consisted of Bio, Chem, Phys, and Geology (those were a lively bunch) students. Then we had Nursing and Med Tech, as well. Rounding out the class would always be some reptiles, unfortunately some snakes (those were bad), but usually lizards, and a variety of amphibians of various descriptions.
I would always encourage my students by telling them to work hard, and things would work out when they found their proper (ecological) niche in the world. Most all of them became passably good at chemistry, and some of them must have found their correct (ecological) niche after all. So these biologists are merely seeking some of my old students and and inquiring about the climate. Judging be some of the examples of climatology we have seen here at WUWT recently, these toads should be at least as qualified as some of the other researchers in the field.
So you see, these biologists have hit upon a good research method, and it all makes perfect sense.
Interesting.
From looking at the author’s on data on when 10% of the toads emerged from hibernation; it appears that the author has been licking far too many of those toads.
His data and his graphs do not match his claim.
‘Toadus bogus’ looking for some of that climate money.
Oops! Must’ve got some of the toad ooze on me too.
“author’s own data”
True story.
I live in Tucson AZ. Last year I was replacing my fence. I had to dig out the 25 year old concrete settings for the old fence posts. About 18 inches down in dry, packed hard soil, my shovel hit a toad… a Colorado River Toad. I was stunned how deep and in hard-packed soil that fella was. Well my shovel did him in.
I wasn’t sad though. There are plenty of them around when the monsoon rains come and the dry washes are flowing. They are poisonous and secrete a toxin from a gland that can kill predators that try to take them in their mouths (like my dog).
One toxic toad down. Many millions more to eliminate.
Models and climate and toads! Oh, my! Models and climate and toads! Oh, my…!
The CAGW boondoggle is alive and well down here in NZ too.
Whale’s breath is their route to playing with drones and getting more Govt money for useless research – all in the name of the two magic words – “Climate Change”
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11676249
It would be funny – if I wasn’t paying for it.
There is at least ine interesting rid bit. The toads, in SOUTHERN Canada hibernate for 8 months.
And that is below the 49N. Tells you why most Canadians don’t fret much about “Global Warming”.
As for those of us that ski, six months of winter is fine. Others just have to deal with their seasonal affect disorder and hibernate with the toads.
It’s all set in stone
New study provides fresh insight into how Earth’s oceans became starved of oxygen in the wake of the event 252 million years ago, delaying the recovery of life by five million years.
The Permian-Triassic Boundary extinction wiped out more than 90 per cent of marine life and around two thirds of animals living on land. During the recovery period, Earth’s oceans became starved of oxygen – conditions known as anoxia.
http://phys.org/news/2016-07-ancient-reveal-earth-recovered-mass.html
Given the amount of molten rock that came out of the earth at that time, not surprised. The hole chemistry of the atmosphere and oceans would have changed.
Didn’t enough rock gets expelled in Siberia to pave the earth totally in 20 feet.
Siberian Traps and Oman traps. A dual attack on life. No wonder. Siberia traps are HUGE
From the article: “Findings from the study are helping scientists to better understand how environmental change can have disastrous consequences for life on Earth.”
More “change is bad” sensationalism. I like to learn about changes that had advantageous consequences too, but such are not so prevalent on the web.
Down here in US of A we got ground hogs to tell us the year’s weather. Canadians got ground toads.
“Down here in US of A we got ground hogs to tell us the year’s weather.”
But they one-up’d us. Punxsutawney Phil gives indications of Spring weather, their toads portray climate. Who knew?
What do you expect from a “professor” with the last name Green? I think he has little problem finding grant money. ( and laughing all the way to his bank).
I tried to find Professor Redneck, but all I found was a lesbian professor who was pleaded guilty for filing a made-up hate crime.
http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2016/03/woman_charged_after_false_clai.html#incart_river_home
Yeah, there is so little discrimination in the U.S. that the Loony Left has to make it up. There have been numerous incidents lately where some minority has claimed discrimination only to find out they were not telling the truth.
You can’t be a Social Justice Warrior if there is no injustice, so I guess they have to make it up to feel relevant.
And I’m not saying there isn’t discrimination in the U.S., there is, but it’s a lot less than is portrayed by the Lunatic Left and the Leftwing News Media.
Who were the idiots that sat at every toad site and waited ?