By Christopher Monckton of Brenchley
For my final broadcast to the nation on the eve of Britain’s Independence Day, the BBC asked me to imagine myself as one of the courtiers to whom Her Majesty had recently asked the question, “In one minute, give three reasons for your opinion on whether my United Kingdom should remain in or leave the European Union.”
My three reasons for departure, in strict order of precedence, were Democracy, Democracy, and Democracy. For the so-called “European Parliament” is no Parliament. It is a mere duma. It lacks even the power to bring forward a bill, and the 28 faceless, unelected, omnipotent Kommissars – the official German name for the shadowy Commissioners who exercise the supreme lawmaking power that was once vested in our elected Parliament – have the power, under the Treaty of Maastricht, to meet behind closed doors to override in secret any decision of that “Parliament” at will, and even to issue “Commission Regulations” that bypass it altogether.
Worse, the treaty that established the European Stability Pact gives its governing body of absolute bankers the power, at will and without consultation, to demand any sum of money, however large, from any member state, and every member of that governing body, personally as well as collectively, is held entirely immune not only from any civil suit but also from any criminal prosecution.
That is dictatorship in the formal sense. Good riddance to it.
I concluded my one-minute broadcast with these words: “Your Majesty, with my humble duty, I was born in a democracy; I do not live in one; but I am determined to die in one.”
And now I shall die in one. In the words of William Pitt the Younger after the defeat of Napoleon, “England has saved herself by her exertions, and will, as I trust, save Europe by her example.”
Indeed, No-way and Nixerland having already voted down the EU, Brexit may well be swiftly followed by Frexit, Grexit, Departugal, Italeave, Czechout, Oustria, Finish, Slovakuum, Latviaticum and Byebyegium. At this rate, soon the only country still participating in the European tyranny-by-clerk will be Remainia.
The people have spoken. And the democratic spirit that inspired just over half the people of Britain to vote for national independence has its roots in the passionate devotion of the Founding Fathers of the United States to democracy. Our former colony showed us the way. Today, then, an even more heartfelt than usual “God bless America!”
All who have studied the Madison papers will grasp the greatness of the Founding Fathers’ vision. They were determined that no law and no tax should be inflicted upon any citizen except by the will of elected representatives of the people in Congress assembled.
They regarded this democratic principle as of such central importance that they wrote it down as Article 1, Section 1 of the Constitution of the United States: “All legislative power herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.” Period. No ifs. No buts. No exceptions.
Except one. The Constitution establishes that foreign treaties ratified by a two-thirds majority of the Senate shall have the same force of law throughout the United States as enactments of Congress.
It is, therefore possible for any U.S. Government that can muster that Senate majority to ratify any treaty and thereby to thwart the central principle of Congressional democracy: that no Congress may bind its successors.
The Republicans, who are not always as lively in their understanding of the threat to democracy posed by supranational and global institutions such as the EU, the UN and its bloated climate bureaucracy, are too often snared or charmed by determined “Democrats” who fully understand and thirst to exercise the power to inflict perma-Socialism on their nation by bilateral, multilateral or global treaties.
It is astonishing how many of the GOP are willing to be cajoled and schmoozed into supporting monstrosities such as the Transatlatic Trade and Investment Partnership, which on its face sounds like a free-marketeer’s dream but is in its small print a series of outright Socialist measures which, once the Senate has ratified them, cannot be repealed. Its climate provisions, for instance, are highly dangerous.
It is no accident, therefore, that the bankers, the corporate profiteers, the Greens and the National Socialist Workers’ Party of Scotland – the corporatists and the communists together – made common totalitarian cause and heavily promoted the campaign to keep Britain in the EU, that paradise of vested interests and their poisonous lobbyists.
It is likewise no accident that precisely these same national and global vested interests heavily promote the campaign to subject Britain and the world to various unnecessary and damaging measures whose ostensible purpose is to control the climate but whose real ambition is to curb capitalism, fetter freedom, punish prosperity,. limit liberty and deny democracy.
The necessity to protect the flagile flower of democracy from the scythe of Socialism is now surely self-evident. Here are two modest proposals to ensure that the will of the people prevails over the power of the politicians, the Press, and the profiteers.
First, every new treaty, and as many pre-existing treaties as possible, should be made subject to repeal by a national referendum – and not just by a referendum called by the governing party because it thinks it can win it but by the people via the initiative procedure. Britain would have left the EU long before now if we, the people, and not those who govern us, had had the right to put referendum questions on the ballot.
Secondly, the governing bodies of all new supranational or global bodies exercising real sovereign power or spending taxpayers’ money from the states parties to the treaty that establishes them should be elected at frequent intervals by the peoples of those states parties.
Otherwise every international treaty, being a transfer of power from elected to unelected hands, diminishes democracy. Britain’s membership of the European Union effectively took away our democracy altogether, so that three new laws in five (according to the researchers of the House of Commons Library) or five in six (according to the German Government in a submission some years ago to the German Constitutional Court) are inflicted upon us solely because the unelected Kommissars require it.
Till now, our obligation has been to obey, on pain of unlimited fines.
The vote by the people of Britain to break free from this stifling, sclerotic tyranny has sent a shock-wave through every major international governing entity. It was no accident that the the International Monetary Fund, the Organization for Economic Corruption and Devastation, and various world “leaders” including Mr Obama, broke with democratic convention by openly promoting a “Remain” vote in a flagrant attempt to interfere in Britain’s decision.
Mr Obama’s intervention was decisive. The moment he demanded that Britain should remain within the EU, the polls began to swing against it. It was only when, in his maladroit fashion, he had sought to interfere in Britain’s decision that so many undecided voters woke up to the danger that the maneuverings and posturings of the international governing class represent to democracy.
What will Britain’s decision mean for the climate debate? Of course, it will break us free from the EU, whose governing elite had seized upon the climate issue as a purported ex-post-facto justification for the now-hated bloc’s continued existence.
We are left with our own British governing class, which has until now been no less determined than the EU to damage our economic and environmental interests by shutting down vital coal-fired power stations and carpeting our once green and pleasant land with windmills.
Now that the EU and its devoted poodle Mr Cameron have been consigned to the trashcan of history, it is near-certain that any new British Cabinet will take a more alert and less acquiescent stance than the present lot on the climate question.
It may even occur to the new Cabinet to check whether the rate of global warming is anything like what the profiteers of doom had predicted; to count the number of downstream businesses – such as cinder-blocks made from fly-ash out of coal-fired power stations – that have been destroyed by the EU’s war on coal; and even to wonder whether the forest of windmills that infest our once beautiful landscape are now extracting between them so much kinetic energy from passing storms that they are slowing them down, causing far more flash flooding than slightly warmer weather would (if and when it happened).
In the past, there was no point in our politicians asking any such questions, for our policies on all matters to do with our own environment were set for us by the unelected Kommissars of Brussels, whether we liked it or not.
Now that our politicians are going to have to learn to think for themselves again, rather than acting as an otiose, automated rubber stamp for directives from Them in Brussels, perhaps the Mother of Parliaments will begin to calculate the enormous economic advantage that Britain will gain by abandoning all of the climate-related directives that have driven our coal corporations, our steelworks and our aluminum works overseas, and have killed tens of thousands by making home heating altogether unaffordable.
We, the people, are the masters now. Our politicians will have to reacquire the habit of listening not to Them but to us. Here, and in the rest of Europe, and eventually throughout the world, let freedom ring!
Thank you, America, and God save the Queen!
Discover more from Watts Up With That?
Subscribe to get the latest posts sent to your email.

Antony,
I am a long time reader of this website, and I will continue to be a reader of this website. However the political ignorance of some of the commentators is utterly breathtaking. Leaving the EU will have serious and long lasting negative consequences for the UK economy. In fact the UK as we know it is over. The previous referendum on Scottish independence will now be repeated, only this time the Scots will vote to leave the UK, because the people of Scotland wanted to remain in the EU. A fact which seemed to escape Mr Trump. The people of Scotland were not ‘going wild about the election’ or happy they were taking their country back from the EU. The people of Scotland are severely pissed off with the Brexit result. How can the Republican Presidential nominee get this so spectacularly wrong? I’ll tell you how, it is because he is as the Scots would say, an utter numpty.
Anthony, this site is at its strongest when it sticks to the science.
Yours,
A very patriotic, Englishman.
Maybe The Donald was hanging out with the 38% of Scots who voted Out. Or maybe he was just watching TV from England.
IMO, the benefits to the UK, or to England and Wales, should the other two nations split, will outweigh the negatives, sooner rather than later.
In most of England outside of London, Out won by landslides, ie more than ten percentage points. The people have spoken. Democracy’s a bitch.
The Scottish Nationalists are mad as hell they didnt win the independence vote. It is therefore not surprising that they would rather see us continue in the sffocating EU rather than have us gain a form of Independence denied for themselves. Why on earth they want to be part of a structure that doesnt care who they are rather than one that has worked in partnership with them for over 200 years to provide the advantages and freedoms and the Scottish individuality they presently have is totally bewildering.
London’s socialist Muslim mayor is reportedly in talks with the Scottish National Socialist Party to figure out how to stay in the EU. Great. Scotland can go Naz! and London can adopt Sharia law, a distinction without a difference.
England can move its capital back to Winchester or maybe set up shop more centrally located, say Leicester.
The Donald said if Scotland wanted to “remain”, he respected their vote. He can deal with the situation any way it works itself out. In or out, Trump doesn’t care. He’ll make a deal with you anyway.
I agree.
I don’t think Anthony should have allowed Mr Monckton to post this article. Political along with religious views should not be a published topic here as it becomes quickly an angry argument that can never be resolved either way. Science can be proved or disproved by data and facts. Yes it has become political but always this can be fought with data and some degree of proof of argument. As can be seen by some of the fact free and emotional dogmatic rantings in this post, this dicussion is going nowhere fast.
I would say though that this post has really shown up how many people on this site that just make stuff up or don’t research the topic of discussion. This is a worry for future credibility.
That should read “should not have allowed”
Most people here have enjoyed the discussion. The relevance of Britain’s exit from the EU to the climate debate is that a future British prime minister, on realizing that precisely the same leftist establishment that promoted and profiteered by the EU also profiteers from and promotes the climate nonsense. Now that Britain has left the ghastly, corrupt EU, expect us at least to think about leaving the ghastly, corrupt climate “process” too.
“I don’t think Anthony should have allowed Mr Monckton to post this article.”
Tough.
His gaff, his rules.
The Guardian is way over there on the Left.
>>>>===========================================================>>
Monckton of Brenchley June 26, 2016 at 12:33 am
Now that Britain has left the ghastly, corrupt EU, expect us at least to think about leaving the ghastly, corrupt climate “process” too.
Jumping the gun somewhat, Britain has not left the EU, rather a non-binding referendum has voted in favor of leaving. Only when the British government formally triggers Article 50 will the process start, and that has not yet happened.
IMO, if Parliament doesn’t follow through on the will of the people, then most of England and Wales will demand a referendum on leaving the UK.
If the vote had gone your way, I’ll bet you wouldn’t have a problem with this thread. I think you are just complaining because you lost.
Unfortunately, Climate science is intimately involved in the political process now, including Brexit, so you are not going to get the politics out of it. It’s here to stay until the science is settled. Then the politics will move on to something else.
“Leaving the EU will have serious and long lasting negative consequences for the UK economy.”
Bollocks.
Stop making stuff up.
“only this time the Scots will vote to leave the UK”
No they won’t.
You can bet your pension on it.
Catweazle666
No negative consequences at all (Sarc)
Is this making stuff up?
http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg529/pbweather/Brext%20poundVusd_zpsxc1ux1vq.jpg?t=1466907030
https://next.ft.com/content/a3a92744-3a52-11e6-9a05-82a9b15a8ee7
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cornwall-36616955
Honestly to think there will not be financial consequences is just plain cloud cuckoo land.
Mr Monckton,
Some may have enjoyed this discussion, but I still maintain politics and religion belong along side chemtrails as banned topics. To say that discussing Brexit is directly related to the climate debate is just plain rubbish and all you are doing is foisting your politics on to others in a forum which is supposed to try and be even handed in a scientific debate. Sure if the politics is directly related to science then let it be discussed, but this is not the forum for Brexit ranting IMO.
“Is this making stuff up?”
First of all, three days cannot by any stretch of imagination be considered to be “long term”.
Secondly, nobody ever claimed that there would not be some short term disruption.
Third, quite a lot of nations – Greece springs to mind – would dearly love a devaluation far greater than that in their currency, as a weaker currency improves exports and in the case of the UK is already causing a big increase in tourism.
UK tourism set to benefit from weak pound
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/081baa36-3c73-11e6-9f2c-36b487ebd80a.html#axzz4DODtkgZG
The pound’s value has significantly weakened since the Brexit vote, which has prompted a flurry of interest for UK holidays from overseas travellers, according to agents.
US and Chinese travel sites have reported a surge in queries, as travellers hunt for cheaper breaks.
On Friday Kayak said it saw a 54 per cent increase in US searches exploring fares to Britain, compared with other Fridays in the month of June.
http://www.express.co.uk/finance/city/684204/Brexit-BOOST-Leaving-European-Union-SURGE-of-tourism-to-Britain
Give it something nearer “long lasting” and try again.
You really don’t understand this international economics stuff, do you?
Oh, and by the way, the FTSE (you DO know what that is, right?) has already recovered all it lost and gained some.
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=%5EFTSE#symbol=%5EFTSE;range=1y
Kevin King
You may be 50 years old and you may be technically very clever but you are so ignorant and naive as to the ways people earn money as to be a danger to the very concept of democracy.
I am also very highly qualified and have contributed a great deal to science. However, having been identified as such, rich people saw stealing from me on an industrial scale to be a good thing.
You do not have the right to say that anyone who makes a large amount of money by stealing the efforts of others should be solely imbued with the right to vote. You should die for such heinous, disgusting and criminal beliefs.
As soon as you say that making money is the only criterion for voting you should be sectioned as mentally insane because the aim of the rich is to get richer and make others poorer. If you haven’t learned that by the age of 50, you are mentally deranged, subnormal and a danger to humanity.
You will be sectioned because you are telling those who have compassion and work decently without seeking avariciously to secure wealth at the expense of others to become lesser human beings.
You are typical of the ignorant idiot savants in science who equate technical cleverness with human maturity.
You say that firefighters who died on 9/11 are third rate compared to the insider traders of Wall Street.
You say that nurses who give dignity to those about to die are third rate compared to criminal CEOs who commit accounting fraud to enrich shareholders at the expense of their workers.
You say that grade school teachers are third rate compared to avaricious bankers who deliberately bankrupt SMEs to increase short-term profits.
How you can live with yourself is beyond me.
You are evil beyond belief and have no place having the vote.
Hi rtj1211 ,
after reading your comment, I agree.
A quote from an old friend years ago:
Some people grow up, some people just grow old.
The transnational’s promotion of anti-native and [class] diversity (e.g. racism, sexism) policies progressed to a catastrophic conclusion with their creation of refugee crises and a global humanitarian disaster. It should have been aborted when they normalized reactive parenthood (e.g. one-child, selective-child) and Planned Parenthood (i.e. clinical cannibalism), but redistributive change and threats of disenfranchisement were, apparently, sufficient to exploit humanity’s baser desires and vulnerabilities.
Worth reading because they will use this…
http://www.euractiv.com/section/climate-environment/news/uk-mp-worrying-link-between-leave-camp-and-climate-change-denial/
http://www.euractiv.com/section/uk-europe/news/brexit-campaign-leadership-dominated-by-climate-sceptics/
I should hope so.
“Climate change” is just one of the means of controlling the plebs and concentrating wealth and power in the hands of new priesthood.
Here are some comments from one of the “Remaindears” I’ve been having a discussion with over the last few days. We Brexiteers would have accepted defeat a lot more gracefully than the Remaindears have. After seeing comments like these I decided to start winding them up a bit.
“Oh great, we’ve managed to wipe 8% off of the Nikkei! Well done people of Britain you’ve just started a new round of global recession…”
“Wonderful, we have set a precedent for letting loose power hungry megalomaniacs across Europe abusing the uninformed idiocy of the great unwashed to grab more power for themselves. There’s an inheritance to be proud of…”
“Just wiped more value off the UK economy than the Leavers have ever bleated about paying out to Brussels.”
“Not even going to bother trying to argue the toss on this on….. I have no choice but to concede that the politicians in Scotland did a far better job of persuading that bulk of the electorate who lack the academic capability to make a reasoned decision on this topic to at least vote the right way in contrast to their counterparts in England and Wales. At this point I see no alternative but to support an independence vote when called by Sturgeon.”
“….. this is more than a short term dip, this is a negative re-alignment of the value of the U.K. economy as a result of our new position on the margins of the world.”
“Wonderful, we have set a precedent for letting loose power hungry megalomaniacs across Europe abusing the uninformed idiocy of the great unwashed to grab more power for themselves. There’s an inheritance to be proud of…”
“This issue was too complex and too important to be put to a plebiscite. Doing so was a gross dereliction of duty by the politicians who couldn’t be bothered to do the hard graft of proving UKIP’s lies to be fallacious and winning the argument.”
Graft?
That neatly sums up the EU eurocracy.
The people have had enough .They want to return to democracy. The philipin especially have voted for a tough man for president he has not even been sworn in yet but his policies are showing improvements.The British have fought off their EU masters .next week we will see the Australian people sack their major parties . And come November the American people will vote Trump in for president .all these things will stir up unrest in some cases but democracy WILL PREVAIL .
Congratulations to the UK for succeeding for the third time in a century German attempts to rule over your people. Welcome back to free nation status and self-guided democracy.
British royalty has german roots, Volkwagen owns Bentley and Rolls Royce.
Perhaps there yet hope . . .
For Scottish Nationalists to say they will quit the UK and remain in the EU is like a passengers in the lifeboat trying to get back on the Titanic.
Exactly!
I think there is a great lesson from another former colony as well. Leading up to the vote, I kept hearing about how much Britain benefitted from the EU, how she woud have so many problems after exiting. My thoughts went back to Ghandi, when he was similarly admonished that independence from Britain would lead to so many problems for India. His response: “Yes, but they will be our problems.”
I’m still laughing about this Brexit thing. You ought to hear these American Leftists on tv whining about this! It’s hillarious! They just go on and on, and you can tell they don’t have a clue as to what just happened.
The lefties actually believe that globalization and additional layers of totally unaccountable government make life better for the ordinary working stiff. The ordinary working stiff is starting to figure out that they don’t.
George Soros: “Brexit means EU disintegration is inevitable.”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-25/george-soros-brexit-makes-eu-disintegration-irreversible
I think Brexit will lead to additional countries having referendums and to a loss of confidence in the EU, to investors dumping European bonds, and thence to a banking crisis that will see stock markets down 33% by year-end.
It was bound to happen. The can has finally reached the end of the road. The sooner the better.
The Brits have an excellent opportunity to be the impetus for a second worldwide economic and cultural renaissance.
To be successful, the U.K. must: continue and expand its free-trade policies, implement free-floating interest rates, severely cut government spending, severely cut taxes, severely cut business regulations, blanace its national budget and start paying down its huge national debt,
If the UK doesn’t do things, it’s freedom from EU’s soft tyranny will be squandered and the chance for Renaissance 2.0 will be lost…
No pressure, but: YO! U.K.! DON’T SCREW THIS UP!
alert to moderator: re Kevin King June 25, 2016 at 2:27 pm ; the reference to “not white and male ” is an inappropriate comment.
The vote heard round the world.
Congrats to the Brits on having the intestinal fortitude and intellectual honesty to see the EU for what it was. The 1942 Dr. Walhter Funk plan from the Nazi era. By kicking the EUssr out of Britain it will not be long before others come to their senses.
To the Scots (I’m part) I can only say don’t be so darned pig headed. I know it runs in our blood and it is a stubbornness that has seen us through horrid times but don’t be against something just because the English are for it and vice versa. Judge each item on its own merits and you will see that the English were right this time.
PS. Lord Monckton, tell you pal Nigel that honesty may be the best policy but insanity is a better defence.
thanks to the 17+ million Leave voters.
thanks to Nigel Farage, who must be given a seat at the negotiating table.
thanks to Christopher Monckton for fighting the good fight.
the mighty Christiana had a press conference with the mighty Bloomberg…yet no MSM reported it …it only appears on EurActiv website and on UNFCCC Press page. sshhh! such talk is only for the stakeholders!
22 Jun: EurActiv: James Crisp: UN boss: Brexit would mean rewriting Paris Agreement on climate change
A vote for Brexit in tomorrow’s UK referendum on EU membership (23 June) would mean that the COP21 agreement would have to be rewritten, the executive secretary of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change said today (22 June) in Brussels.
Christiana Figueres, one of the architects of the historic deal struck last December to limit warming to no more than two degrees above pre-industrial levels, said the international pact, “would require recalibration”. It is currently in the process of ratification.
“From the point of view of the Paris Agreement, the UK is part of the EU and has put in its effort as part of the EU so anything that would change that would require a recalibration,” she said at a press conference…
Figueres was alongside Energy Union Commissioner Maros Sefcovic and business magnate Michael Bloomberg, who is also UN special envoy for cities and climate change, to launch the Global Covenant of Mayors…READ ON
http://www.euractiv.com/section/climate-environment/news/un-boss-brexit-would-mean-rewriting-paris-agreement-on-climate-change/
UNFCCC: Press/News: UN boss: Brexit would mean rewriting Paris Agreement on climate change
Christiana Figueres, one of the architects of the historic deal struck last December to limit warming to no more than two degrees above pre-industrial levels, said the international pact, “would require recalibration”. It is currently in the process of ratification…(EurActiv link)
http://unfccc.int/press/news_room/items/2768.php?topic=all
pat wrote: “thanks to the 17+ million Leave voters.
thanks to Nigel Farage, who must be given a seat at the negotiating table.
thanks to Christopher Monckton for fighting the good fight.”
I read this morning that Farage was not being invited to the party.
Under the British unwritten constitution, treaty negotiations with foreign powers are conducted by Ministers of the elected government. Mr Cameron’s replacement (probably Boris Johnson) will lead the negotiations, and UKIP – not being part of the elected government – won’t have a seat at the table. That’s the way the cookie crumbles, constitution-wise.
But UKIP, led by Nigel Farage, who did more than anyone to get us our referendum, will be there to hold the politicians to account as they try to thwart the plainly-expressed will of the people. Already the National Socialist Workers’ Party of Scotland (under Ms Sturgeon) is showing its utter contempt for mere democracy by saying it will do all it can to prevent the will of the people from being carried out.
I think of Die Führerin of the SNSWP as Frau Murrell.
Let’s see what we have :
– England tells the EU ‘Good riddance to it.’
– The EU Face Jean-Claude Juncker wants to punish the UK like nuns do with children – to prevent further insubordination.
_____________________________
– Good luck to the UK – and
– the EU will cope with a Merkel.CDU / ChristDemagogicUnion / led bureaucracy.
https://www.google.at/search?ie=UTF-8&client=ms-android-samsung&source=android-browser&q=jean+claude+juncker&gfe_rd=cr&ei=JKJvV9nDFsOI8Qe4i5SYCA#gfe_rd=cr&scso=uid_0:9
Fits like a hand in the glove:
Juncker contributed to build world economy crisis, Merkel since 2008 never did anything to restore EU from said crisis – but providing scapegoats
1. Greece
2. UK
3. … wait and see
https://youtu.be/jmXYhpR9nCI
Solution to a divide: Embrace virtualization of countries and split into 2 virtual countries.
I think I have a solution for the current divide on the Isands. The solution stems directly from what proven to be a great success in Information Technology – a concept known as Virtual Machines. In a distant past it the way computers worked was that there could be only one operating system running on a single physical hardware. Notice – operating system is a management software, that governs resoure allocation among applications as well as security and networking. Something similar to a government!
So if you have a computer – you either run Windows or Linux on it, but not both together. But then Virtualization was invented! Virtualization means that you can run multiple operating systems on a single physical hardware. Including incompatible operating systems, the ones that don’t like each other that well – like Windows and Linux toghether on tha same physical hardware. Operating systems can be the same as before, you can even convert a preexisting operating system from running on physical hardware to running on virtualization. And those operating syste ms running in virtualization stil govern their application – virtualization layer The leader on the market – VMware Vsphere – puts a very thin layer of basic hardware governing functions over physical hardware (called VMware ESX) and gives access to these functions to the actual operating systems running a top of it. The actual operating systes (like Windows or Linux) are the ones that offer huge, rich libraies of functionality that they offer applications to use. There’s even a competition between Windows and Linux over who offers the biggest, most extensive functionality for the applications, while VMware ESX stays thin. Those actual operating systems can be: in different IP networks, in different naming domains and so on. Basically like independant from each other.
The equivalent solution for Great Britain would be to embrace Virtualization of Countries and split itself into 2 virtual countries: one called Britain/UK that would leave the EU, and a New Country, that would stay in the EU. They both would be run on the same physical hardware (the Islands), over a thin virtualization layer – which would be like a minimal functionality: just some army, firefighters, flood prevention and so on, under joint chiefs – from both virtual countries. All extended functionality would be within virtual countries. I mean things like the socialism, social services, schools, bureaucracy, and so on.
The solution with virtual countries is the only one that allows people to choose what they want with the EU on an individual basis, without them being forced by others (eg young by old, Scotts by English), while still keeping a single large, strong military (as opposed to eg. Scottland leaving). Each person or corporation would choose where they want to be. They and land they own would be under the law of virtual country they choose. And there are still 2 years to sort the details about the linking infrastructure – roads, power cables and so on, how to deal with that with 2 virtual countries on the same land.
That was the basic virtualization model, similar to Vmware Vsphere: a thin virtualization layer, similar to a minimal government, and the operating systems with extended functionality – similar to full blown bureaucratic governments – running on top of it. But there is another model of virtualization – running one full operating system on top of another full operating system. It is represented by tools like for example Virtual Box. In this model the base operating system controls both the physical hardware, and the application that run on it. But besides the applications it sets aside some resources for a secondary virtual operating system, and gives it an interface to control these resources. The virtual operating that runs on a top of the primary operating system has to call the primary operating system for many functions related to dealing with hardware, but is still an operating system – governs its own applications, and has it’s own rich functionality. In a model of country virualization inspired by such comptuer virtualization model the UK would stay as it is is and leave the EU, but on top of the UK there would be a created a virtual country that would stay in the EU. All extended services – socialism including socialized medicine, schools, and so on would be separate for both the primary country and a virtual country.
Notice the additional benefits of country virtualization: even if muslims become a demographics majority on the islands, on the physical land, country virtualization could protect non-muslims from living under a Sharia law. Muslim majority could just create their own virtual country with a Sharia law, while non-muslims could live outside of it in their own virtual country governed by a secular law.
Rob Roy
The redcoats are coming. They were all British.
The Redcoats may have been, the Germans wore their own uniforms:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hessian_(soldier)
About 30,000 German soldiers fought for the British during the American Revolutionary War, making up a quarter of the troops the British sent to America.[3] They entered the British service as entire units, fighting under their own German flags, commanded by their usual officers, and wearing their existing uniforms.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germans_in_the_American_Revolution
“Ethnic Germans served on both sides of the American Revolutionary War. Many supported the Loyalist cause and served as allies of Great Britain, whose King George III was also the Elector of Hanover. Other Germans came to assist the rebelling American patriots, but most of the Germans who were patriots were colonists.
The phrase “the red coasts are coming” is attributed to Paul Revere as he road through the countryside outside of Boston to warn that the British forces in Boston were on the march. This is prior to the battles of Lexington and Concord and well before the British employed German troops.
Dennis, Their hearts weren’t in it though. Perhaps had the Brits issued the Hessians redcoats, they might have felt more loyal to them.
I simply meant that the Colonists considered themselves British.
On a different thread 3 days ago: “UEA: Brexit Remain Vote Probability Zero – UPDATE Brexit WIN Eric Worrall ” I made the following comment:
“Tom in Florida
June 24, 2016 at 5:12 am
To all our British friends, now the hard part begins. Everything that goes wrong will be blamed on the exit vote. There will be a period of “oh no, what do we do now” and a push to reverse the decision. Stand strong, your vote is a victory for all who cherish the belief that the people have the right to determine there own destiny.”
Now a few days later it seems to be coming true.
From The Guardian:
“But there seems to be no immediate legal means out of the stalemate. It is entirely up to the departing member state to trigger article 50, by issuing formal notification of intention to leave: no one, in Brussels, Berlin or Paris, can force it to.”
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/26/who-will-dare-pull-trigger-article-50-eu
It’s not in art. 50 but in art.7 of the Maastricht Treaty: “obstruction” of a member state.
You’re welcome
When one cuts to the chase our British cousins voted to remain British and I applaud them for it. The world would be a much poorer place without the heart and soul of Britain.