Climate Craziness of the Week -Bill Nye Thinks Not Wasting Bottled Water Will Help Defeat Islamic State

Bill Nye, Barack Obama, and Neil DeGrasse Tyson selfie

Bill Nye, Barack Obama, and Neil DeGrasse Tyson selfie

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

US TV personality Bill Nye thinks Climate Change is responsible for the rise of Islamic State. But don’t worry, Nye has the solution – a book of helpful suggestions, of ways in which armchair eco-warriors can deal a deadly blow to this evil threat to public security, by changing how they live their lives.

Bill Nye brought science into kids’ lives and made us laugh. His new book, Unstoppable: Harnessing Science To Change The World, mixes science and his trademark humor to rally a new “Greatest Generation”—ours—to solve a global climate change crisis and ISIS Threat that he believes is more threatening to our survival than World War Two.

Bill Nye took that link a step further, explaining the brutality in Paris and Syria was “a result of climate change.”

Your book includes sweeping approaches to address climate change. What can individuals do that counts?

Nye: Not wasting any water bottles is good. Not leaving the lights on is good. Turning the thermostat down in the winter, up in the summer, is good. But the best thing any of us in the developed world, especially in the United States, can be doing is talking about it. It’s strangely a hard thing to talk about because it’s become so political and divisive, and people have a tendency to give up and see it as overwhelming. But I claim that it’s not.

Read more: http://www.albanydailystar.com/science/science-guy-has-an-idea-for-isis-threat-fayetteville-tech-time-12573.html

Who would have thought – we don’t need all those nasty guns and air strikes and alliances and counter-terrorism agencies and what have you, to save Syria and the West from the barbarous horrors of Islamic State. All we need to do is make a few adjustments to our thermostats, talk about Climate Change, and make sure we drink every last drop of our bottled water.

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111 thoughts on “Climate Craziness of the Week -Bill Nye Thinks Not Wasting Bottled Water Will Help Defeat Islamic State

  1. He says not to waste the “water bottles”, not “bottled water”. What would he have us do with those water bottles I wonder??

    • It must be like saving your bacon fat during WWII so it could be processed into glycerin.

      • The man actually “patented” the idea of using water in a plastic bag as a magnifying glass. AND ballet pointe shoes. I kid you not! The man’s contributions to “science” are staggering.

        After the remark he made about educating women and girls in order to save the world (below) I know EXACTLY what I will do with all of MY un-wasted water bottles should I ever end up in the same room with the man. And he WILL be staggering then…….:/

      • There was very little bacon available during WW 2 as most of it went to the military. People ate canned Spam. They had Spam and eggs.

      • MMM Yummy Spam Sandwiches…

        As for the Water Bottles, perhaps stuffing them with C4 and making Water (bottle) Bombs

      • Even better, fill them with Water laced with a Very Strong Laxative and air drop them over the ISIS Troops.

        Shitz Creek Spring Water

    • He is grammatically correct. Your weak attempt at perfidious sarcasm is revealing about your character.

    • What is diabolical about the the article, the selfie and the post itself, is the absurdist theatre that has replaced reality.

      The fact that American tactics and weapons are found on both sides of the Syrian conflict might also have something to do with the problems there!

      I’m pretty sure that if the Obama administration stopped supporting both sides, the CIA-backed Rebels* – that include Daesh [IS, ISIS, ISIL] – and its own Iraqi militias**, then the worldwide terrorist blowback and refugee crisis would ease significantly.

      It is beyond question that Western governments and their allies are continuing to systematically raid, plunder and radicalise the Middle-East either directly of indirectly through their proxy forces. Superpowers and their governments represent elites that have no regard for their own nations let alone for the individuals of any country.

      *US support for the Syrian Rebels and CIA backing are matters of public record.
      **The same Iraqi militias that fight for the US in Iraq, fight for al-Assad in Syria. That US/Iraqi militias fight for the Russian/Iranian alliance is also a matter of undisputed public record.

  2. ..Wow, the three biggest morons of North America, all in the same room !! The IQ in the White House just dropped by 80% !

  3. It’s not clear that half-hearted bombing of Islamic State will help either.

    At least Bill Nye is passionate and fervent about his solution.

    His ideas are not logical. His ideas do not have any conceivable mechanism that could affect the progress of Islamic fundamentalism. But science is not the only good.

    Faith is still valuable. Bill Nye – the Faith Guy – is passionate enough to actually do something.
    Which is better than nothing.
    And a lot better than doing half of something.

    • SXSW Eco, Austin, Texas

      SXSW Eco 2016 Keynotes include:

      Bill Nye
      Kate Bryant
      Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.

      Also check out the rest of the website including the Advisory Board.

      http://www.sxsweco.com/speakers

      People just can’t seem to see the connections among the ENGOs or don’t want to!

    • Mind if I try and translate?
      Don’t pay attention to the actual effect of ideas on policy and behavior. Instead, focus on the the “good intentions” of the speaker. That is the proper way for status to be allocated for idea workers.

      Here is the problem with that argument. What if “good intentions” when turned into actual policies, lead directly to dire results?

      To see how bad that result can be, consider a mild little proposal by Barack Obama Sr. back in the 1960s. He was, you recall, the Harvard trained Marxist Kenyan economist. He wrote that he had “no problem” with a 100% tax rate, so long as the revenue was spent wisely, meaning equitably, by the government. Obama was very concerned about income inequality of course, just as today’s progressives are. What could be better evidence of that great moral concern, than a proposal to make incomes absolutely flat?

      So what would actually happen to society if a 100% taxation rate was imposed and all citizens received an equal share of the revenue? What it means is that workers would not get a paycheck for doing productive labor. They would receive exactly the same income as those who did no work.

      As a direct consequence, the incentive to continue working vanishes entirely.

      Since the “economic pie” is simply the sum of the nation’s productive efforts, the pie would shrink to zero. There would be nothing to divide and everyone would starve to death. In short, Obama’s well intended proposal is simply an extermination camp, if put into actual practice and not abandoned.

      Still, the MAIN thing to focus on is that Obama was “well intentioned”. He cared about the Have Nots and wanted to help them. There might be a minor hiccup or two due to the whole extermination camp thing, but he meant well and that’s what counts. Right?

      • @ Tom Yoke, 6:31 pm, At the rate the taxes are these days and the amount of people on the “dole” etc., their goal does not seem to be far from succeeding, sadly enough.

    • Faith is believing what you know aint true – so much for the colloquial definition. Here’s a slightly more sophisticated one by the late Hitch-Meister: faith is believing something without evidence or in light of evidence to the contrary. With that quick reminder of what faith is, it is then obvious that it is never valuable and always harmful, as it denies reality. That’s why people say that it has retarded progress for the past 2000 years… Think about that.

      • I second John Knight.

        How about this one Matt, Embarassment is making a fool of yourself by talking about something you are clearly clueless on.

      • Atheists really outdo themselves in saying stupid things these days.
        You actually claim that everyone who is a believer actually knows that their faith is false?

      • I don’t know anyone who claims that faith has retarded progress for the past 2000 years.

        All of the great thinkers over the last several thousand years have been men and women of faith.

        Just because you are an idiot, don’t assume that everyone else is as well.

      • @Matt……YUP.

        @ Mr. John Knight, here is the definition in the American Heritage dictionary of the English Language, for what it’s worth.

        “faith – belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence.”

        Faith is not only a poor reason to believe in something, faith is the total absence of reason.

        As for whether a higher power exists or not, I have no idea. Neither does anyone else.

  4. As if climate change has anything to do with Syria–perhaps an increase in population of several hudred percent since WWII, or a fascist government has a little bit to do with the civil war.

  5. It wasn’t “talking about it” that defeated Nazi Germany, it was a whole lot of bombs and bullets.

  6. From the article-
    Nye: “The world’s going to change climatically. We just want to control the change.
    We want to have a high quality of life for billions of people as we pass through this era.”

    There it is in his own words. He admits that the climate is going to change (it always has) and he thinks we can CONTROL those changes!!!!

    Nye: “It is my mission to change the world. I’m not kidding: Make no small plans, dream mighty things. I feel if we get enough people engaged in climate change, we will get enough people to change the world. We will revolutionize the way we produce electricity and provide clean water to people. And along with this is educating more women and girls. Because that is the surest route to controllably, manageably reducing the human population. Educated women have fewer kids. And the kids they do have are better cared for and are more successful. As I like to say, it’s not one thing that we need to focus on. It’s everything all at once.”

    Again, it is his “mission” to change the world! (and he’s not kidding!) Oh….and also, population control by “educating more women and girls”. Because women and girls who have more kids are UNEDUCATED????? Not only that, women who are “uneducated” (who knows how this moron defines educated) don’t take care of the kids they have and those kids are less successful! What a sexist piece of crap, and most likely a closet Fabian as well.

    He has a Bachelor’s Degree in mechanical engineering, and thank God, Gaia, or Goldfish…he has never spawned a child. :)

    • Yesterday there was an article on CNBC talking about Zuckerberg’s desire to “http://www.cnbc.com/2016/04/27/zuckerberg-i-want-to-cure-all-diseases-this-century.html

      Along with curing all diseases in the world Zuck also plans to “..In his spare time, Zuckerberg also hopes to upgrade the world’s education system through personalization and protecting the environment from climate change,…”. What a guy! It is amazing what a few billion and a big head can accomplish.

      • What? If you cure disease, people will live longer and have more kids and the population will keep growing and Gaia will die! These tech giants never think things through…

      • PiperPaul,

        I reject your theory. I think “naturally occurring” narcissism and self-delusion were always this high, we just didn’t have an empirical method to quantify the ratios until the internet arrived. :)

    • Can you imagine the outrage if a conservative/skeptic/denier making remarks that educating women is important so that they’ll raise better but fewer kids?

      • No kidding Michael! The irony, hypocrisy is just unbelievable. But hey….such tactics will eventually breed idiots like him right out of the food chain. That’s just SCIENCE son!

    • “And along with this is educating more women and girls. Because that is the surest route to controllably, manageably reducing the human population.”

      Perhaps we can combine two popular messages to school kids into one covering both drug experimentation and unwanted (by Bill) pregnancies:

      Just say ‘No!’

      It worked for drugs, right? Now it can work for educated women’s fertility rates.

      Global population control is a lot simpler than I thought. I mean, we already have the Just Say No campaign in place, right? All we have to do is stop worrying about the boys and concentrate all our attention on the girls, which is what boys do anyway so they won’t mind.

      • “If we replace ‘alcoholism’ with ‘substance enthusiasm’, we can eradicate alcoholism and have lots of people happily drinking; in fact, more than before!”

    • @ Bill Nye ( as if he would ever read this website) you said these words:
      “And along with this is educating more women and girls. Because that is the surest route to controllably, manageably reducing the human population. Educated women have fewer kids. And the kids they do have are better cared for and are more successful. As I like to say, it’s not one thing that we need to focus on. It’s everything all at once.”
      You are right the one thing you could do is provide them with cheap electricity for their cooking, hospitals and those schools you mentioned and all the good things that would give them that chance!

    • Actually he is correct on this point:

      “And along with this is educating more women and girls. Because that is the surest route to controllably, manageably reducing the human population. Educated women have fewer kids.”

      Back when I was in grad school we had an alumni come speak who was with the World Bank at the time. He asked if anyone knew what was the most effective form of aid to a developing nation. I was the only one who offered a response. The correct one as it turned out. If you want to raise the standard of living of a developing nation or society, by far the best return on your aid dollar is gotten from educating the women.

      And exactly what is wrong with providing women with the ability to choose how many children they want to bear?

  7. I thought that Mo, Larry and Curley were only available in archived black and white films!

  8. Perhaps the Saudis could stop funding ISIS instead? Or Turkey could stop trading with it? Just think what a waste that $500 million to produce 5 pro-US fighters was it could have been done with words alone. But then who would provide for the poor US arms suppliers? Is this man anti-business?

  9. The best thing that can be said for Bill Nye is he’s the embodiment of Orwell’s worst dreams. Both ridiculous and terrifying all in one quirky body.

    • …ridiculous and terrifying


      H–….. h– ….. h–…. HEY! Is that a water bottle lying there on the sidewalk?!!?
      Get that thing OUT of here, NOW!! Do you want to be beheaded or something?!!!

      ****Later on TV —

      Reporter: Mr. Nye, you believe water bottle wasting causes Jihadis to kill us?

      Nye: Believe? BELIEVE??!! I KNOW it. There is no debating the issue.

      Reporter: (raised eyebrows)

      Nye: (FROWNIE FACE) OH, YES, MISTER REPORTER MAN. I — have — proof! After 1990, people started drinking a WHOLE LOT more water out of bottles and LEAVING THEM around, just lying around everywhere, being wasted…. well! After that! Guess what?

      More beheadings every YEAR!! Kih-yu-eeeee D!

      ************************************************************

      Okay, folks — “Make up a caption time… ” #(:))

    • Clarke’s Corollary to Heinlein’s Razor: “Sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.”

  10. “It’s very reasonable that the recent trouble in Paris is a result of climate change,” Mr. Nye, who discusses global warming at length in his new book “Unstoppable,” . “There is a water shortage in Syria, this is fact based — small and medium farmers have abandoned their farms because there’s not enough water, not enough rainfall.”

    Water shortage – most of ME is a desert and has been for quite a long time, Mr. nitwit Nye.
    Farmers – they are highly likely leaving due to wanting to stay alive – ever hear of ISIS Mr. Nye.

    • “Small and medium farmers have….” What?
      What about “large” farmers? And XL? And XXL??? (extreme sarc)
      Is he saying that people in Syria become farmers without taking any notice of the climate/location of Syria, and then have to bow out because “Oooopsie….we don’t get much rain here do we Hamza? ”

      He’s SUCH an idiot!

      http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-wheat-idUSKCN0XN0G0

      “The northeast province of Hasaka, which accounts for almost half the country’s wheat production has seen heavy fighting between the Kurdish YPG militia, backed by the U.S.-led air strikes, and Islamic State militants.

      Farming infrastructure, including irrigation canals and grain depots, has been destroyed, according to the FAO. It said the storage facilities of the state seeds body across the country had also been damaged, so it had distributed just a tenth of the 450,000 tonnes of seeds that farmers needed to cultivate their land this season.”

      There’s NEVER been a lot of rainfall….but I’m sure that when people are blowing up the “farming infrastructure”, it probably affects the number of people who can, or want, to FARM.

      And no, it is NOT “very reasonable” that the recent trouble in Paris is a result of climate change. It’s pretty much as reasonable as saying that the Twin Towers were blown up because foreigners hate goofy, bowtie- wearing, children’s program actors. But at least the second correlation is understandable.

    • Don’t you know that the only reason people have a problem with Assad is that they cannot farm? Nothing to do with abuses of power. Besides, Daesh is really doing the world a favor by lowering the population and getting rid of people who might father children. /sarc off

      Sad thing is, there are probably some misanthropes who think that last statement is true. People who believe the former statement probably also think that “hashtag” diplomacy is effective rather than embarrassing. It is difficult to accept unpleasant truths, but in the real world, people who do terrible things almost always do those things because they WANT to do terrible things.

      Last, can we stop this “new greatest generation” nonsense? Tweeting about not wasting water bottles is NOT the same as struggling to survive the Great Depression and then storming the beaches at Normandy. Yelling at people for wanting to have a decent standard of living is NOT the same as fighting in the Pacific Theater, being taken prisoner, and then being forced on a death march. The past few generations are getting wimpier and wimpier, and frankly, the current crop of special snowflakes (who cannot handle hearing someone say, “I disagree with you” without screaming, “Safe space! Safe space!”) lacks the gumption to do anything that will actually help people, unless said thing can be done by pushing a button on their phone. Even then, if such a thing goes against their programming (thanks, school indoctrinators!), they probably will not do it.

    • When even the Gruniad and Thomas Bloody Friedman of the NYT think you’re full of crap, you’re probably full of crap:

      http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/29/climate-change-syria-civil-war-prince-charles

      “The case for international action on climate change is strong enough without relying on dubious evidence of its impacts on civil wars. Claims such as these are mostly rhetorical moves to appeal to security interests or achieve sensational headlines, and should be recognised as such.”

      And, note memories of Yamal: “testimony from a single Syrian farmer”

      http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/19/opinion/sunday/friedman-without-water-revolution.html?_r=0

      ““The drought did not cause Syria’s civil war,” said the Syrian economist Samir Aita, but, he added, the failure of the government to respond to the drought played a huge role in fueling the uprising. What happened, Aita explained, was that after Assad took over in 2000 he opened up the regulated agricultural sector in Syria for big farmers, many of them government cronies, to buy up land and drill as much water as they wanted, eventually severely diminishing the water table. This began driving small farmers off the land into towns, where they had to scrounge for work.”

  11. Ask anyone who lived through WWII if climate change is a bigger threat. They might punch you in the face just for asking. At least we could find out what it’s like to get punched in the face by a 90 year old!

  12. Comedian/scientist Bill Nye must think he is still the host of a show for kiddies as he preaches to adults on ‘Climate Change’. The presence of Obama would enhance this idea. An increase in population from 4.5 million in 1960 to 22 million now, combined with a fascist government, and rampant Islamic Fundamentalist Jihad, has much more to do with the war than CO2 or bottled water or ‘Climate Change’.

  13. Bill Nye targets kids with his monstrous lies, because he knows they are the easiest ones to lie to.
    Bill Nye, The Lying Guy.

    • But they are timely subjects, so appearing to be ‘engaged’ is timely as well.

  14. this children’s tv personality, with the help of al gore, faked a greenhouse effect experiment on tv and fooled all those kids. his credibility is zero.

  15. I was worried he was going to say I have to give up my bottled water. Phew!

    I won’t waste any energy changing my thermostat, ok? I’ll just leave it where it is on 22 C all year. Promise.

    Saving the world from ISIS (aka DAESH) is easier than I thought.

    PS Will it help if I switch from cappuccinos to lattés?

  16. Not wasting any water bottles is good.

    The best way to avoid wasting bottled water is to use tap water. A city near mine is supplied by the same aquifer that is used by one of the major bottled water brands. The tap water is just as good as the bottled water and much much cheaper. Even so, people drink lots of the bottled stuff. link

  17. In his article he talks about everyone being more educated etc. and then the real truth
    “Because that is the surest route to controllably, manageably reducing the human population”

    I like these guys who want to decrease the world population but don’t lead from the front!

    Cheers

    Roger
    http://www.thedemiseofchristchurch.com

  18. Even ignoring the ludicrous link to terrorism, his suggestions for reducing CO2 are like telling someone not to eat the garnish on a full plate to avoid obesity. Do you think the guy has ever worked out his own CO2 foot print? I’m convinced that much of the casual alarmism is caused by people who have no idea how much energy we use or how essential fossil fuels are right now. Why not jump on a band wago if it seems to be an easy ride?

  19. Maybe there’s method in Nye’s madness. Maybe he actually intends for the terrorists to choke to death laughing as his stupidity.

  20. Nye is finally lose the plot.

    Oh btw, stop giving the “rebels” weapons and money (Turkey Saudi Arabia NATO) if they want the war to stop. :D

  21. Bill Nye the Lying Doofus Guy says “the best thing we can do to address climate change is talk about it.” What he means of course, is that “we” (meaning True Believers) should proselytize about it, proclaim your True Belief to everyone, in hopes that you will both inspire others to do likewise, and, hopefully, convince non-Believers to at least start questioning their non-belief. He knows it really has nothing to do with science.

  22. Eric, This is a must see:

    Neil deGrasse Tyson tweeted that if a helicopter loses an engine, it falls like a brick.

    The tweet:

    @chucknicecomic FYI: An airplane whose engine fails is a glider. A helicopter whose engine fails is a brick. 9:09 AM – 20 Jul 2015………@neiltyson

    Wrong. Just like he is wrong about so many things, particularly AGW.

    see:

    and…

    http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2015/12/21/scientists-who-are-actually-really-stupid-1-neil-degrasse-tyson/

    • The tweet:

      @chucknicecomic FYI: An airplane whose engine fails is a glider. A helicopter whose engine fails is a brick. 9:09 AM – 20 Jul 2015………@neiltyson

      WHAT?! Hmmm….he should have run that tidbit by his bestie Nye first–then it could have said something like:
      An airplane whose engine fails is the fault of climate change. A helicopter whose engine fails is a tossed water bottle. Both result in the rise of ISIS.

  23. I cannot take this idiocy any longer. Good grief what an idiot. And I tell my kids he’s an idiot too, as they stuff his nonsense down their throats at school.

    • I do have to say that when it comes to illustrating physics, biology and chemistry the set designers and technical consultants on the show did an excellent job. :) Nye might have pounced on the opportunity and probably started out with good intentions–but we all know where those lead. I think he embraced the motto: don’t go to hell in a Chevy a little bit too much….he’s trying for that Masaradi (sp?). LOL

  24. You can’t tell me these guys don’t spend a LOT of time practicing their selfie faces.

  25. Climate change obviously causes brain damage in those who have not been vaccinated with a background in critical thinking.

  26. Like most liberals, Nye believes that history began when he was born.
    The mere fact that Muslims have been killing people for the last 1400 hundred years is unimportant.
    What matters is that the latest group formed only a few years ago, therefore they must have been caused by climate change.

  27. I find this strangely racist. Why are white libs not running around cutting people’s heads off? They are in the climate too. Political correctness itself is what racism has morphed into. The idea is that white libs have broader superior backs than other groups. They also are the ones whose mission is to teach non white libs how to fish. Apparently this skill is too onerous for lesser folks to figure out for themselves. I ve watched this paternal goody goody stuff IN Africa perpetrated by missionary and Ngo /UN TYPES over decades. This form of racism is insidious. One Nigerian I met on board ship to Nigeria asked me why Bature don’t understand why Africans take their gifts with one hand and slap them on the face with the other. Seeing it first hand I have felt like slapping their superior faces too over the past 50yrs.

    • Gary,

      “Political correctness itself is what racism has morphed into.”

      By accident, do you figure . . or by design?

      And Liberalism has “morphed” into intolerance, it seems to me, Just a coincidence? Science has “morphed” into blind faith in authorities . . in very similar fashion, etc, etc . . and I don’t believe it’s all just “natural” terminology/concept drift. I believe this is what Mr. Eisenhower warned about long ago, in process.

      (trigger warning)

      It’s a deliberate (indeed scientific) take-down of Western civilization, because it is (was anyway) antithetical to authoritarian governance. If one wonders how I could believe anyone would want authoritarian government, I suggest one start their inquiry with the question of why so many examples of it exist, and existed throughout human history . .

  28. Well I’m all in. I never drink bottled water so ISIS is D-O-O-M-E-D.

    (Always happy to help out Bill Nye, the Clueless Guy.)

  29. Bill Nye, Dr. Tyson, President Obama, don’t throw away those Kool-Aid containers.

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